Town Council Meeting
Regular MeetingHertford, NC · June 14, 2021
Minutes
TOWN OF HERTFORD
REGULAR SESSION MEETING
MONDAY, JUNE 14, 2021 6:00PM
HERTFORD COMMUNITY CENTER(in person and on Zoom)
The Town Council of Hertford held its Regular Session Meeting Monday, June 14, 2021
at 6:00pm.
COUNCILORS PRESENT
Mayor Earnell Brown Mayor Pro Tem Ashley Hodges
Councilman Frank Norman Councilman Jerry Mimlitsch
Councilman Quentin Jackson (arrived late on Zoom)
STAFF PRESENT
Town Manager Pam Hurdle, Clerk Olga Simpson
A quorum was present
Mayor Brown called the meeting to order. Mayor Brown gave the invocation which was
followed by the pledge of allegiance.
ADJUSTMENT/APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA
Mayor Pro Tem Hodges moved to strike under Continued Business items 3 & 4 (Mayor
Brown wants them removed), Items 8 & 9 (they are public records and can be provided
by the clerk), Item 10 (no read ahead material was provided), Items 11,13,14,15
(nothing was presented). He included in his motion to strike under New Business Item
6 (no read ahead material was provided), Item 7 (the resolution was not brought to
Council by Councilman Jackson for their approval), Item 12 (Mayor Pro Tem Hodges in-
kind donation, which can just be announced).
The motion to approve the agenda as amended was approved 3-2. The voice vote was
as follows:
Councilman Mimlitsch yay
Councilman Norman nay
Councilman Jackson nay
Mayor Pro Tem Hodges yay
Mayor Brown yay
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Mayor Pro Tem Hodges moved to approve the minutes of April 12, 2021, May 10, 2021,
May 18, 2021 and May 25, 2021 as presented. Councilman Mimlitsch seconded the
motion and it passed on a 3 to 2 vote. The voice vote was as follows:
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Councilman Mimlitsch aye
Councilman Norman nay
Councilman Jackson nay
Mayor Pro Tem Hodges aye
Mayor Brown aye
CITIZENS CONCERN
-Tim Brinn acknowledged the progress occurring in Hertford over the past year with the
establishment of a single standard for tax collection and law enforcement, which he felt
would free up funds for other pressing needs in the Town such as code enforcement
and housing issues. He is in hopes that the Council will enforce the current codes and
ordinances to a single standard for all citizens in the Town. New residents and
businesses are asking, “What is with the Town Council and what about blighted
housing?”
-Keith Rouse & Anita Rouse Phillips came before Council on behalf of their parents
Rufus and Lenora Rouse who by proclamation of Mayor Reid and Mayor Yates received
an honorary day in the Town of Hertford and Winfall. The family is now ready and able
to do something and so would like to on July 10, 2021 from 4pm to 8pm on Hyde Park
between King and Dobbs . It will be a day of giving to have fun, food, entertainment,
dancing and good spirits. They requested that King & Dobbs Streets be blocked off and
the presence of law enforcement on that day. They also requested the town provide a
stage and generator for the event. They are working on getting a port-a-potty.
All of Council was in favor, however, Councilman Norman stated that the Town did not
own the stage That request should be made to the County. The Town does not have a
police department so the law enforcement presence would have to be provided by the
Sheriff. Mayor Pro Tem Hodges suggested that Manager Hurdle work on the logistics
with Mr. Rouse and his group. Mayor Brown asked Mr. Rouse to submit the request in
writing.
~Rhonda Waters requested the codes be enforced
~Marvin Sutton thanked Council for the use of the community center for the youth and
asked for Council’s continued support.
~Tony Riddick was concerned about Academy Greene and the historically black areas
being torn down under the guise of code enforcement. It appears to him that code
enforcement has been mainly enforced primarily outside of Front Street. He believed
the process of redlining is the cause of some areas of the town being improved more
than others. He discussed the importance of Academy Green, the old Sutton building,
and the Savoy as it relates to movie production and its historical value in conjunction
with the role it could play in tourism. Lastly his concern was the removal of the police
department. He felt no governing body should ever be without its own security entity.
After turning over all of Hertford PD equipment for three years. If the County does not
do a good job your equipment remains gone. Removing the security is the removal of
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its strength and control of the governing body. No town can properly manage two
security systems at the same level.
~Murrielle Harmon: Opted not to make any comments
~Councilman Frank Norman spoke about his concern that audio recordings were
missing and stated the nefarious reasons why he thought they had disappeared
~Connie Brothers requested that Councilman Norman apologize publicly for
disrespecting her mother at a meeting held at the Louise Event Center and then he
placed the entire conversation in the newspaper. Secondly she spoke about the grass
and trees across the railroad track that blocks the view and wanted the Town to address
the problem.
~Councilman Jackson complained about the attack on his and Councilman Norman’s
agenda items. He felt the code could not be enforced without a police department. He
commented on money spent on Microsoft and Apple devices, the audit being late,
money being unaccounted for, why the Main Street program got $86,000 and King
Street got none, the Town still having to pay the dispatch fee even though the Town
accepted the law enforcement contract and how after paying $25,000 no waterfront plan
was produced and it would cause the tax values to go up anyway.
SCHEDULED BUSINESS
~ Edrith Gatling,Jr. an upcoming senior at Perquimans County High School, has been
honored to participate in the Hawaii Tikki Bowl. He came to inform Council of his
accomplishment and that he is proud to represent Perquimans County on a national
level.
CONTINUED BUSINESS
PROPERTY BEHIND THE HERTFORD MARINA TAP HOUSE
Per Resolution 6.14.2021-1 Upset Bid for Property
The sale has gone through the process advertised for an upset bid. There were none.
No additional resolution is required. The Town will proceed with closing.
AUDIT UPDATE
The Audit is seriously past due. Jeff Best is holding up the presentation of the audit
until he receives the pending action of the State audit. Councilman Jackson addressed
the drop in the fund balance from 84% to 50% to the now 43% and demanded the
results of the audit and whereabouts of the $93000. Mayor Pro Tem shared his
concerns about the late audit. According to the attorney the audit was late because the
Town had $93000 in adjustments in October of 2020 and was questioned about the
adjustments. The adjustments were why Mr. Best decided not the produce the audit
until he received the state audit results. Manager Hurdle explained the adjustments
were due to a trial balance posting error that has since been corrected. Mayor Pro Tem
Hodges stated that he did not believe that any of Council knew anything about what
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Manager Hurdle just explained regarding the audit until the receipt of the June 7, 2021
email from the attorney.
CEMETERY BIDS
Manager Hurdle presented five bids to Council to discuss and choose the lowest
responsive responsible bidder, and asked Council to refer to the bids by number, not by
names. Mayor Pro Tem Hodges made a motion for the Manager to reach out to Vendor
#4 to negotiate the price or she can look at the scope of reducing the contact to get the
Town within the budget amount of $40,000 per year and bring her recommendation
back to Council for review. Councilman Mimlitsch seconded the motion. Councilman
Norman made a friendly amendment to reject all bids and allow the bidders to resubmit
bids since no one did it properly rather than just give the opportunity to that one bidder.
Mayor Pro Tem Hodges declined to accept the friendly amendment. Councilman
Jackson was concerned about the poor job done in the past and the cost. The motion
passed 3-2, with the following voice vote
Councilman Mimlitsch yay
Councilman Norman nay
Councilman Jackson nay
Mayor Pro Tem Hodges yay
Mayor Brown yay
TRASH/RECYCLABLE COLLECTION CONTRACT
Manager Hurdle received one bid proposal. The cost increase is from $10.25 to $13.00.
The contract expires June 30, 2021. Council discussed their options, including if the
Town ate the $3.00. Mayor Pro Tem Hodges made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Mimlitsch that the Manager look into three options: the Town doing it themselves, bi-
weekly pickup, or not recycle at all. The motion passed unanimously
Councilman Mimlitsch yay
Councilman Norman yay
Councilman Jackson yay
Mayor Pro Tem Hodges yay
Mayor Brown yay
Mayor Brown call a five-minute recess at 8:00pm and Council reconvened at 8:05pm
TAX COLLECTION AGREEMENT
The County has sent a new agreement for collecting the Town’s taxes with an increase
from 2% to 3%. Mayor Pro Tem Hodges moved and Councilman Mimlitsch seconded
the motion to approve the agreement as presented. The motion passed 3-2 with the
following voice vote
Councilman Mimlitsch yay
Councilman Norman nay
Councilman Jackson nay
Mayor Pro Tem Hodges yay
Mayor Brown yay
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NEW BUSINESS
RESOLUTION 6.14.2021-2 AMERICAN RELIEF PLAN
The Town is eligible to receive the American Relief Plan funds and the resolution is
required in order to get the funds. Councilman Mimlitsch made a motion to accept the
American Resolution Relief Plan Act Resolution 6.14.2021-2. Mayor Pro Tem
seconded the motion. The motion passed 3-2 with the following voice vote
Councilman Mimlitsch yay
Councilman Norman nay
Councilman Jackson nay
Mayor Pro Tem Hodges yay
Mayor Brown yay
BUDGET AMENDMENTS
According to Manager Hurdle, budget amendment #5 is the one that actually balances
the budget. There will be a budget amendment #6 for this current year to finalize the
budget. In the following departments, funds will be decreased and then increased by
the same amounts to balance the line items. Governing Body Expenditures: decreased
by and increased to $21,999.84; Administration: decreased by and increasd to
$17,333.59; Police Department: decreased by and increased to $36,450.37; Fire
Department: decreased by and increased to $4,320.00. The $4,320 I miscellaneous
revenue. $4,320 will be taken out of miscellaneous and moved to a line item. Street
Dept: decreased by and increased by $15,000; Industry Dept: decreased by and
increased by$15,337.86; DMV: decreased by and increased by $306.89; Planning
and Main Street: decreased by and increased by $615.25; Water/Sewer: decreased by
and increased by $1,000; Sewer Collection: decreased by and increased by $3,268.43;
Treatment: decreased by and increased by $32,248.11; Electric: decreased by and
increased by $112,772.67. A portion of that was for the smart meters. The budgeted
line items are projected to carry through June 30, 2021. Manager Hurdle offered the
budget to any citizen who asks for it.
Mayor Pro Tem Hodges made a motion to approve Budget Amendment #5, Councilman
Mimlitch seconded it. It passed unanimously with the following voice vote
Councilman Mimlitsch yay
Councilman Norman yay
Councilman Jackson yay
Mayor Pro Tem Hodges yay
Mayor Brown yay
PUBLIC HEARING (PZBOA(160D))
Attorney Gallop explained that the legislature merged General Statutes §§160A and
153A for consistency between county and municipal governments regarding zoning,
subdivisions and building code enforcement. This resulted in the creation of Gen.
Stat.§160D. Attorney Gallop followed a checklist generated by the school of
government and looked at the Town code, subdivision ordinance and looked for the
provisions that changed to ensure the Town ordinances complied with §160D. Attorney
Gallop advised Council to hold a public hearing to hear citizens comments or concerns
and then vote to approve or deny the text. The Planning Board considered the matter
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and voted to approve it. There were no comments from citizens. Mayor Brown closed
the public hearing at 8:33pm and opened the floor from Council’s comments. There
were none. Mayor Pro Tem Hodges made a motion, seconded by Councilman
Mimlitsch to approve the recommendation of our attorney. It passed 3-2 with the
following voice vote:
Councilman Mimlitsch yay
Councilman Norman nay
Councilman Jackson nay
Mayor Pro Tem Hodges yay
Mayor Brown yay
HHI -TOAST THE PERQUIMANS (Street Closure/ Use of Town Dock, Marina & Parking
Lot)
Request by Hertford, Inc. for annual Toast for Perquimans. They want to use the Town
dock & marina. They submitted a letter of request for September 18, 2021, 6pm to
10pm. It is the same thing they had last year. Councilman Jackson expressed concern
that there would be adequate security. Councilman Jackson made a motion to approve
the event pending written documentation that a deputy will be present at the event.
Councilman seconded the motion. It passed unanimously with the following voice vote:
Councilman Mimlitsch yay
Councilman Norman yay
Councilman Jackson yay
Mayor Pro Tem Hodges yay
Mayor Brown yay
ABC CHAIRMAN/BOARD MEMBER
The chairman has stepped down and decided not to seek reelection. Councilman
Norman made a motion to appoint Todd Tilley and Councilman Jackson seconded it.
The motion passed 4 to 1 with the following voice vote:
Councilman Mimlitsch yay
Councilman Norman yay
Councilman Jackson yay
Mayor Pro Tem Hodges yay
Mayor Brown nay
ABC BOARD – POLICE FUNDS
Every year Council must donate money to some type of alcohol educational program.
The ABC Board wants to know if they can spend the money on an alcohol treatment
related program. The amount is approximately $4,000. Councilman Norman made a
motion to give the funds to the Health Department and Councilman Jackson seconded
it. Mayor Pro Tem Hodges made a friendly amendment to have educational programs
on the front end and Health Department counseling and treatment on the back end.
This would split the money between the Dare Program and the Health Department.
Councilman Norman rejected the friendly amendment saying that his motion was broad
enough. The motion passed 3-2 with the following voice vote:
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Councilman Mimlitsch nay
Councilman Norman yay
Councilman Jackson yay
Mayor Pro Tem Hodges yay
Mayor Brown nay
ABC BOARD MEMBER COMPENSATION
The current compensation is $75 for Board members and $100 for the Chair. It has
been the same for the past 15 to 20 years. Councilman Norman made a motion,
seconded by Councilman Mimlitsch to increase everyone’s salary by $50 (Chair $150 &
Board members $125). Councilman Jackson serves on the Board. The motion passed
4-0 with the following voice vote:
Councilman Mimlitsch yay
Councilman Norman yay
Councilman Jackson (recused himself)
Mayor Pro Tem Hodges yay
Mayor Brown yay
FY21-22 WATER/SEWER RATES
Mayor Pro Tem Hodges introduced his proposed increases for Water/Sewer Rates.
This would do away with commercial versus residential, institutional versus municipal.
Currently, everyone pays the same rate. It would get rid of inside and outside of twn
designation and will focus on two factors: the amount of water used as well as add a
provision for multi-tenant facilities. The new rates divide usage into two blocks 0-12000
gal. per month and 12,001 gal. per month and up. The base rate is what NCRWA
recommended to the Town for 0 – 12,000 gal. usage. For 12,001 gal. and above, the
base per thousand gallon rate will double and the per gallon use rate goes up by 25%.
For multi-tenant facilities the usage rate is the same as 12,000 gal. The facility pays the
fee times the number of units in the building. With these rates, most people will see a
$12 increase in their utility bills. The proposed rate increase enables the cost to be
applied fairly. A tier system will be implemented with this plan. The discussion on the
motion came from Councilman Norman who stated businesses can write-off their bills
whereas residents cannot. Councilman Mimlitsch made a motion to accept the
resolution for water and sewer rate change. Mayor Pro Tem Hodges seconded it. The
motion passed 3-2 with the following voice vote
Councilman Mimlitsch yay
Councilman Norman nay
Councilman Jackson nay
Mayor Pro Tem Hodges yay
Mayor Brown yay
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RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING ATTORNEY CONTACT
Council members are not allowed to engage with the attorney without the consent of
Council. Mayor Pro Tem Hodges moved that he and Mayor Brown could engage with
the attorney at their discretion. The motion passed 3-2 with the following voice vote
Councilman Mimlitsch yay
Councilman Norman nay
Councilman Jackson nay
Mayor Pro Tem Hodges yay
Mayor Brown yay
RETURN OF POLICE EQUIPMENT
Mayor Pro Tem Hodges said the Town is missing a bullet proof vest and three police
radios. He said Chief Brown provided Councilman Jackson with a bullet-proof vest and
radio. Mayor Pro Tem Hodges made a motion to report the items as stolen by close of
business on Thursday if they were not turned in. Mayor Pro Tem Hodges amended his
motion to require that the property be returned by close of business on Thursday and
Council members be prohibited from entering the police department building until the
end of the fiscal year. Councilman Norman offered a friendly amendment that a list of
the equipment be made so they can see if they have it. Mayor Pro Tem Hodges did not
accept the friendly amendment. Councilman Jackson said he had returned the
equipment a long time ago. The motion passed 4-1 with the following voice vote
Councilman Mimlitsch yay
Councilman Norman nay
Councilman Jackson yay
Mayor Pro Tem Hodges yay
Mayor Brown yay
CLOSED SESSION
Mayor Pro Tem Hodges made a motion to go into closed session pursuant to
GS§143.318.10(e) to approve the Closed Session minutes of February 8, 2021, April
23, 2021 and to discuss personnel issues. Councilman Mimlitsch seconded the motion.
The motion passed unanimously with the following voice vote
Councilman Mimlitsch yay
Councilman Norman yay
Councilman Jackson yay
Mayor Pro Tem Hodges yay
Mayor Brown yay
The Board resumed Open Session and adjourned.
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Agenda
Hertford Community Center
TOWN OF HERTFORD
Town Council - Regular Session
Regular Session Agenda
Mayor Earnell Brown Councilman Quentin S Jackson
Mayor Pro Tem Ashley Hodges Councilman Jerry Mimlitsch
Town Manager Pamela Hurdle Councilman Frank E Norman
Monday, June 14, 2021 at 6:00 PM Hertford Community Center
CALL TO ORDER - Mayor Earnell Brown
INVOCATION
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ADJUSTMENT/APPROVAL OF AGENDA
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
CONSENT AGENDA
Items of a routine nature will be placed on the Consent Agenda to be voted on in a single motion. Any
item may be removed from the Consent Agenda by request of the Mayor or any Council Member.
CITIZEN CONCERNS
If anyone would like to address the Council on an item other than a public hearing item during the time
of public comment, please sign up with the Town Clerk prior to the meeting. Each speaker is asked to
limit comments to 5 minutes. Please provide the clerk with copies of any handouts you have for the
Council. Although the Council is interested in hearing your concerns, speakers should not expect action
or deliberation on subject matter brought up during the Public Comment segment. Topics requiring
further investigation will be referred to the appropriate Town Staff and may be scheduled for a future
agenda. Thank you for your consideration of the Hertford Town Council, staff and other speakers.
SCHEDULED BUSINESS
1. Edrith Gatling Jr. Hawaii Tiki Bowl-Manager Hurdle
CONTINUED BUSINESS
1. Resolution 6.14.2021-1 Upset Bid for Property ( behind Hertford Marina Tap House)- Manager Hurdle
2. Audit Update Trash-Manager Hurdle
3. Kemp Building-Manager Hurdle
4. Meads Loop Speed Bumps (Notification)-Manager Hurdle
5. Cemetery Contract- Manager Hurdle
6. Trash/Recyclable Collection Contract- Manager Hurdle
7. Tax Collection Agreement-Manager Hurdle
8. Audio of meeting in regard to Apricot Housing Building Project-Councilman Norman
9. Audio of meeting in regard to the Youth Center Resolution-Councilman Norman
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10. Mayor’s written documentation on Councilman Jackson’s fitness for office and Mayor’s letter
from former Mayor Sid Eley about Councilman Jackson-Councilman Norman
11. Rate Pay Study-Councilman Norman
12. Contracts with Winfall-Councilman Norman
13. Proposal for IT Services-Councilman Norman
14. Street Repair-Councilman Norman
15. Job Description of Planner-Councilman Norman
Sid Eley's letter
Sid Eley's Letter From Mayor.pdf
Sid Eley's Letter
NEW BUSINESS
1. Resolution 6.14.2021-2 American Relief Plan
2. Budget Amendment #5-Manager Hurdle
3. Public Hearing (PZBOA(160D)) -Manager Hurdle
4. HHI-Toast the Perquiman(Street Closure/use of Town Dock/marina/parking lot)-
Manager Hurdle
5. ABC Store-Appointment of Chair, Police Funds, Compensation of Board Members-
Councilman Jackson
6. Community Center-Councilman Jackson
7. Rev. Franklin Resolution- Councilman Jackson
8. Copies of what Reserve Fund can and cannot be spent for-Councilman Norman
9. Y 21-22 Water and Sewer Rates – Mayor Pro Tem Hodges
10. Resolution 6.14.2021-3 Authorizing Attorney Contact – Mayor Pro Tem Hodges
11. Return of Police Equipment- Mayor Pro Tem Hodges
12. In-Kind Donation – Mayor Pro Tem Hodges
Mayor Pro-Tem Hodges Read-aheads
COUNCIL CONCERNS
ANNOUNCEMENTS
CLOSED SESSION
1. GS 143-318.10(e) - Closed Session Minutes Approval (February 8, 2021, April 23, 2021).
2. GS 143-318.11(a) - Personnel
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ADJOURNMENT
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