Selectboard May (5) Meeting
Regular MeetingJohnson, VT · May 5, 2025
Minutes
JOHNSON SELECTBOARD MEETING MINUTES
JOHNSON MUNICIPAL BUILDING
MONDAY, MAY 5, 2025
Present: Selectboard members: Mike Dunham, Peter Hammond, Duncan Hastings, Adrienne Parker,
Eben Patch
Others: Tom Galinat, Rosemary Audibert, Jason Whitehill, Mike Patch, Kathy Black, Joe Salerno, Alec
Jones, Jan Gearhart, Mary Lou Kopas, Casey Romero, Paul Warden, Kim Dunkley, Scott Meyer, Jackie
Stanton, Kyle Nuse, Adrian Smith, Alyx Sellars, one other person
Note: All votes taken are unanimous unless otherwise noted.
1. Call Meeting to Order
Eben called the meeting to order at 6:30.
2. Consider Additions or Adjustments to the Agenda
Adrienne added discussion on agenda packets. Duncan added an item related to the assessor.
3. Public Comment
Joe Salerno said he has concerns about Legion Field and the potential moving of the bandstand. Eben
said at the last meeting the board talked about all the things going on at Legion Field and the need for
a larger plan. He believes the Tuesday Night Live committee is working on a plan. Adrienne said she
went to their last meeting. They are working on a plan, but some things are moving forward before the
plan. Eben said he thinks we need to see the plan before anything is done.
Joe said he is hearing about plans to move the bandstand right behind his house. No one has talked to
him and his wife about it. He would love to see a plan for Legion Field. His sense is that no one is
talking to the neighbors about Legion Field plans. Kathy Black said it would be terrible to have the
bandstand that close to their house when most parts of the field are not near people's houses. There are
a lot of other places the bandstand could go. It is an attraction for people who are hanging out at the
park and smoking pot. They don't need that in their backyard. She is not opposed to having the
bandstand where it is now or moving it up against the hill, but she thinks moving it to the back corner
by their property is unnecessary and unfair.
Joe said he thought there would be a visioning session involving the community. Tom said a process
is underway. It should be finalized with the involvement of community members. Adrienne said she
agrees that meetings about Legion Field should involve the public so people can give input. She thinks
what is motivating the group of stakeholders to move quickly is that they have a grant and a limited
amount of time to spend the money so they are trying to plan out how they will use it.
Kathy said it seems like a waste to make moves there before we understand how much space will be
taken up by the library or what will happen with the grocery store lot. She asked, there is a grant to
move the bandstand? Adrienne said no. It is a grant for improvements to Legion Field. Duncan said it
is a Community Foundation Grant. Eben said the selectboard makes all its decisions in meetings that
are publicly posted. Everyone is welcome to give input.
Casey Romero said Howard couldn't be here tonight, but she thinks very soon people will come
together to talk about the Legion Field plan.
Mike Patch said people may not want the bandstand in another location. Wherever it is, noise will be
an issue.
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4. Public Comment
Adrienne said Green Up Day was pretty successful. A total of 328 bags were given out, 111
volunteers participated and 50+ tires were picked up.
Adrienne said Isabelle Sullivan reached out to Jason about the baseball diamond but the public works
department didn't have the bandwidth to work on it. She arranged for Greg Fatigate to do it and it cost
$1,000, which came out of the recreation budget. Is it normal for it to come out of the recreation
budget? Tom said we budgeted $8500 in FY25 and dropped it to $5K thinking we would spend $1000
on rented equipment using town labor. That price is better than we have seen in the past. We should
be thankful for it.
Adrienne asked if there are any updates on the Sterling Market buyout process. Tom said Vermont
Emergency Management will be meeting with FEMA in Boston in early May. There have been no
updates on the Swift Current process. He hopes we will have more information after the meeting with
FEMA.
Adrienne said after the last meeting she reached out to TownWeb and asked them to make a list of
work that would require extra payment for a developer so she could see if the board agreed with
paying for any of that work. She has not gotten that list. She was told that the person who was on our
project was out of town for a week and someone else would be taking over. She heard on April 30
that they would reach out to her this week. Today TownWeb asked her to register for a training
session. She feels it is an odd process.
5. Consent Agenda
The consent agenda included the minutes of April 7 and April 21 and retroactive approval for an
expenditure of $7,046.80 for needed repairs for the 2019 HX truck to pass inspection. Mike moved to
approve the consent agenda, Peter seconded and the motion was passed.
Duncan moved and Peter seconded to authorize. Jason to spend whatever amount is necessary
for any town trucks to pass inspection.
Mike Patch suggested that there are some good mechanics near the border and in Canada that a lot of
municipalities and police departments are using. It might save money to use them. Jason said if we
need a Vermont inspection we need to go to a mechanic that is in Vermont.
The motion was passed with Mike opposed.
Eben clarified that this motion applies only for this year.
Duncan said there is no harm in getting more than one quote. Mike Patch said the mechanics he is
thinking of are used by the Department of Transportation, other municipalities and fire departments.
Those mechanics know what they are doing.
6. Clerk & Treasurer’s Report: Warrants, Licenses and Any Action Items
Rosemary said we got the final school true-up. Expenditures are at 75% of budget. Current taxes are
84.39% collected. That is slower than in the past couple of years. Tom asked how we are doing with
cash flow. Rosemary said we are fine for now.
Peter moved to authorize Rosemary to contact attorneys at Stitzel Page & Fletcher to start the
tax sale process, Adrienne seconded and the motion was passed.
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Rosemary said we received a tax abatement request. Does the board want to wait until Eric can attend
to hold the abatement hearing? Eben said he can call Eric tomorrow.
7. Purchase of Budgeted Town Pickup, Tandem and Equipment
Tom said the sales rep we were dealing with at International has left and they have not yet provided
the proposal we requested for the tandem. Should we try to get it or should we go out for bids? Jason
said he would like to see us go with Western Star. Eben said the state spec is for an International. If
we wanted to go with Western Star we would have to get sealed bids. Board members agreed they are
okay with getting bids. Duncan said the only problem is that unless we have very specific
specifications, it is hard to compare different proposals. Tom said we learned from going out to bid
last year and now we know what to ask for.
We received three quotes for a pickup. Eben said one question he has is whether we need the 5500
chassis. The price is $29,000 above what was in the capital equipment plan. The ripple effect of that
on future years concerns him. The current pickup has a 1-ton chassis. Jason said it doesn't have to be
the 5500 chassis. But it is a $4,000 difference to get that chassis instead of the 3500 and the 5500 is a
2024 that is in stock and all built so we wouldn't have to pay new truck prices. A new one with that
body setup would be $12-15K more. It is a flatbed dump. The dump is already on it. We don't have
the ability to chip into the tandems with the chippers that we rent. This truck would be set up to put
chips into. They quoted a plow. The plow we have is functional. However, we might need to get a
new one in the next couple of years. This truck would be the same size as Mark’s truck and could be
used in case something happens to that one. The bed is a little shorter than Mark's but it has a crew
cab. The crew cab costs an additional $2K. Tom suggested this could replace Mark’s truck and we
could get an even smaller pickup for the foreman. Duncan said what Jason is saying makes some
sense but we have a capital budget plan we just approved and this price is a lot higher than what is in
there.
Duncan said at one point the town had a Ford 350 with a king cab and a plow. Is it feasible to think
about going back to something like that? Jason said we could but we do a lot more plowing now. The
town crew is now plowing the municipal building, the park and all the Class 3 roads with one or two
houses. There are a lot of people who bought houses on those roads and don't want turnarounds there
anymore, so the tandems have to back out. Duncan said we have every right to put a turnaround within
our right of way and people will have to accept that as the price of getting their road plowed. We
should do that if we need to and it shouldn't dictate what we buy for a truck. Even though some of
those roads are being plowed with the foreman’s truck, could they be plowed with the truck that is
being used as a salt truck? Jason said we did have a 2500 with the salter/sander on it and it overloaded
the truck. He thinks we should stay with the truck size we have at least and not go smaller. We bought
a dump trailer and we need to have a truck that is big enough to pull it.
Tom said Mark's truck is expensive and it fits a narrow niche within the town. What if this truck
replaced Mark’s and then we got another 5500 when we had planned to replace Mark’s? That could
save money and add versatility. He showed the capital equipment plan on the screen and showed the
effect if we buy a less expensive truck for the next purchase. We would save $6,000. He feels we need
a better rotation plan. We don't really have an up-to-date capital equipment plan. Eben said it was
updated last year. Tom said we just updated the trade-in numbers. He thinks we need to start updating
the rotation schedule to fit within the warranty and matching trucks to what we need.
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Jason said getting this truck would save us having to order a new one and wait for the dump body to
be put on it. This is a good deal.
Mike said he agrees about not keeping trucks beyond the warranty. Eben said we have also talked
about leasing. Duncan said we haven’t seen projections of what the savings would be if we traded
trucks in earlier.
Peter moved and Mike seconded to purchase a Dodge Ram from Northpoint for $71,178. Eben
asked if we can not take receipt until July 1. Jason said that is the plan. The motion was passed with
Duncan opposed.
Eben said at town meeting two people said they don't like seeing us putting cash on hand into the
equipment fund. They would like to see us putting the amount we need into it. We are going to need
to look at that at budget time. Duncan said he is happy to look at a different concept.
8. Hiring a 5th Employee
Tom said one of our public works employees gave notice so we are now down to a four-person crew.
The board had asked him to evaluate the financial value of the fifth person. He met with Jason and
they put together numbers representing how much a fifth employee contributes to the town in various
categories. He reviewed the numbers. More overtime would likely be needed if we did not have a fifth
employee. We can't really put a dollar amount on morale. Right now we budget for 250 hours for the
foreman. We are not staying within that amount. Without a fifth person, the foreman has no time off
in the winter. Without a fifth employee, work time for ditching doubles. Employees take their
vacations in summer which can mean dropping down a one or two-person crew. Having only four
employees means equipment operators have to spend more time waiting for trucks. It probably means
more overtime and contracting out more work. There would be fewer free weekends for employees
due to the on-call rotation.
Peter said he thinks Jason knows what he needs. Duncan said he had asked previously for a
comparison with other towns that have similar highway mileage. He won't be able to make a decision
until he sees that. The board got the financial information about the fifth employee right before the
meeting. That does not give him enough time to review it. Adrienne agrees that she needs more time
to digest the information. She is probably in favor of a fifth employee, but she questions some of the
hours shown for work for committees. She wants to know from the committees if those figures are
right. Forty hours a year for the beautification committee doesn't seem right. Jason noted that that is
total time for 4 people. Mike said the big push for five employees was due to the gravel pit. We no
longer maintain the gravel pit so it will take a lot to convince him we need five employees.
Kim Dunkley asked if the option of having a part-time person who does not get benefits has been
considered. Jason said when he started there were four highway employees and two part-timers who
worked a combined 600 hours a year. We hired a fifth person because of the gravel pit and MRGP
requirements. Then we cut out some part-time hours. Last year the part-time hours got taken away
completely. So we are saving on something that we have always spent money on before. Hyde Park
has a four-man crew and they just hired a fifth person. We are doing well on MRGP compliance. That
is about having a team that can work together to do different jobs on the same day, like having the
chloride truck follow the grader. He described how having 5 employees increases ditching efficiency.
He said employees have gotten used to having an off-call week. They often use comp time on the
week when they are not on call instead of getting overtime. Public works employees have been
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helping out with a lot of things such as the library that are not really in their wheelhouse. Not having a
fifth employee will hit hard morale-wise.
Casey asked if there are or can be different grades of employees with different pay levels and
worker’s comp levels depending on what they are doing. Duncan said worker’s comp is the same for
everyone in the highway department. Jason said employees are paid a little differently because of
different qualifications, years of service or equipment they can run or safety training they have
received. All CDL employees will be within a few dollars of each other.
Mike Patch said the public works department has been doing a lot of things like gutting the library or
helping committees. If we are going to go to 4 employees he thinks they need to just work on roads.
The town can't cut staffing and expect the same things to be going on. He does not think the public
works crew should have been gutting the library building. Why are they being asked to do work like
mowing the ball field or helping with the project at the trailhead? In the past volunteers have helped
with things like that.
Eben asked if it would be a big issue to wait to make a decision till the next meeting. Jason said there
is a good candidate who is very interested right now. We could lose out on that employee. He noted
that there is another employee who is getting for ready for retirement but hasn't given a retirement
date yet. Eben said the board will take this up again in 2 weeks.
9. Better Roads Grant, LCPC Assisting with Road Inventory
Tom said the town got a Better Roads Grant of $8,160 with a match of $2,040 for road inventory.
Jason would like to hire LCPC to do the inventory. LCPC has provided a draft agreement. They would
not go over the grant amount so $2,040 would be the maximum amount we would pay. Alec Jones of
LCPC said each hydrologically connected road segment is required to be inventoried by October 31,
2027. LCPC would get the inventory done this year or possibly finish up next spring. The grant runs
until 2027. LCPC would help the town get reimbursement from the grant.
Mike asked, hasn’t that inventory already been done? Alec said it was last done in 2019. It has to be
redone when the permit resets. All segments need to be inventoried, even if work has been done on
them previously to bring them up to standard. Jason has a done a lot of work since the last inventory.
Some segments that were previously shown as red may no longer be red. Grant funding is based on
the inventory.
Duncan moved to authorize the chair and/or the town administrator to sign a contract with the
Lamoille County Planning Commission for road inventory, Mike seconded and the motion was
passed.
10. Letter of Support for LCPC for Clean Water Service Provider
Peter moved to authorize the town administrator to sign the letter of support for LCPC,
Adrienne seconded and the motion was passed.
11. VHB Amendment for Scribner Bridge Scoping Study
Tom said this item can be passed over for this meeting.
12. Rail Trail Committee Projects
Mary Lou Kopas said the rail trail committee has provided an update on all the grant projects they are
planning to do. Some have already been approved. They want to request that grant money they have
been awarded that is not spent by the end of the fiscal year roll over to the committee for the next
fiscal year.
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Duncan moved that any unspent funds as of June 30 related to rail trail grants and projects be
rolled over and reserved as part of the town's cash on hand, Mike seconded and the motion was
passed.
Peter said he thinks the Village Green is a good spot for the bike rack. Why move it to the Cold
Spring? Mary Lou said the village is concerned about having too many things at the Village Green.
The rail trail committee wants to put a map kiosk there where the bike racks are.
13. Resolution Condemning Attacks on Due Process and Affirming the Constitutional Rights
Tom said after the town received a request to approve this resolution, he reached out to colleagues
about their thoughts. The opinion that hit home with him the most was that this is a big issue that is
larger than the opinion of five people and should probably go before the whole town.
Adrienne said she hears Tom, but she thinks the selectboard could easily pass this resolution. It is just
reaffirming that we believe that 1st and 5th Amendment rights are valid. She explained that we were
forwarded a resolution passed by the City of Rutland by a Rutland resident who urged us to consider
adopting it. There have been some troubling incidents in Vermont that speak directly to this
resolution’s urgency. Mohsen Madawi was arrested by ICE during what was supposed to be a routine
citizenship interview. There was concern that he was targeted because of his pro-Palestine activism.
The Vermont Senate passed a resolution condemning the arrest and calling for his release. Rumeysa
Ozturk was arrested in March and transferred through Vermont before being sent to Louisiana. Her
detention appears to be retaliation for co-authoring an op-ed on Gaza. Her legal team said this was a
clear violation of her free speech and due process rights. A federal judge has since ordered her
returned to Vermont for a hearing. Adrienne read part of Governor Scott’s statement about Mohsen
Madawi’s arrest. The Burlington City Council adopted a resolution similar to the Rutland one. Some
see this as a federal issue but issues at the federal level will trickle down to us. Without due process
the town could face lawsuits and settlements, the town’s actions could become arbitrary or biased,
residents’ rights to fair hearings or appeals would vanish, and processes would lack accountability and
clarity. Without free speech, residents couldn’t voice concerns at selectboard meetings, criticism of
town policies or officials could be punished, and people might self-censor to avoid backpack or
consequences causing a lack of communication and making collaboration suffer. She encourages the
board to adopt the resolution.
Kim Dunkley said the selectboard is making decisions like spending $71,000 on a truck. The
selectboard makes all the decisions for the town. She thinks it is important to safeguard the
Constitution. She thinks Johnson should stand up.
Jackie Stanton said she agrees with Kim. This is an important time to meet the moment we are in and
affirm the Constitution and the rule of law. It would mean a lot to her as a constituent for the
selectboard to affirm it.
Mike Patch said he doesn't think five people can make this decision for the town. He doesn't think the
selectboard is put in place to make political decisions, only financial decisions. He thinks if the board
wants a decision on this, all residents should vote on it.
Mike Dunham read the oath of office and oath of allegiance that every selectboard member has taken.
He feels as if he has already done this and he doesn't need to reaffirm anything because he already
took the oath of office.
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Adrian Smith said this is not a political decision. It is basically affirming that the Constitution will be
upheld on a local level. He thinks a lot of people are afraid now and are feeling their voices are not
heard. It is important to say that we will acknowledge it as a town if someone's constitutional rights
are violated.
Alyx Sellars said the US Constitution is the foundation of our government and our democracy. It is
the reason the selectboard members were elected. They represent our democracy and Constitution. But
we have had multiple acts in our state and across the nation that have violated the Constitution, our
freedom of speech and due process. It is absolutely necessary that any elected official protect citizens.
That is their duty. It is the selectboard's duty to uphold democracy.
Duncan said the selectboard’s duty is spelled out in Vermont state statute. It is not to the US
Constitution. It is to the Vermont Constitution. The selectboard’s roles and responsibilities are not
related to telling an ICE agent that they cannot arrest someone. What Alyx describes is a lot broader
than what the selectboard is empowered to do under state statute.
Paul Warden said he thinks it is important for us to meet the moment. This is a very important issue.
The federal government doesn't care what Johnson thinks, but he thinks it is important for us to go on
record opposing any violation of the Constitution. However, he has read the Rutland resolution and he
would take issue with some of the wording.
Peter said he shares the disgust with the immoral actions of this regime and he as an individual will
continue to protest, but he does not feel it is appropriate for the five selectboard members to speak on
an issue that has also become highly partisan for the entire town. So he regrets that he will not second
a motion to adopt the resolution.
Adrienne moved to adopt a resolution condemning attacks on due process and affirming the
constitutional rights of all people in our town, rewriting the language of the Rutland resolution to
reflect Johnson's values and voice. The motion died for lack of a second.
14. Beautification Mini Grant Approval
Adrienne said the beautification committee gives out mini grants every year. They got about eight or
nine applications. They weren't able to accept all of them because their budget was tight. She listed the
applications that they want to approve. The amounts total $775. That is within the beautification
committee's budget. Duncan moved to accept the beautification committee's recommendations to
award mini grants, Peter seconded and the motion was passed.
15. Library Relocation
Tom said the library move was spectacular. We did an awesome job. For every problem that came up
a solution was found. Adrienne said Tom did a good job with the library move. He had a lot of
sleepless nights and a lot of hard work. Many people were involved in making this move happen,
including Jeanne Engel and the library trustees. It was really magical watching the building move. It
was invigorating to the community and it was a big step for flood resiliency. Scott Meyer expressed
respect and gratitude to Tom for pulling the move off.
Tom said we agreed in the fall to enter into a contract with Mumley for a term of up to 3 years. But he
could not find a contract with them. Mumley has drafted two contracts that were included in the
packet. Duncan moved to approve the contracts submitted by Mumley and to authorize the town
administrator to sign them, Mike seconded and the motion was passed.
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Tom said we need three policies for grant reimbursement. The policies he drafted are temporary ones
just for the library grant project. Duncan asked, these policies are required for spending federal
money? Tom said yes. Duncan moved to approve the three policies needed for grant
reimbursement and to authorize the town administrator and/or board chair to sign them, Peter
seconded and the motion was passed.
Tom said bids will be coming in next Monday for the concrete work. There was a site meeting today
and only one contractor showed up. He suggests delegating selection of a bid to a single board
member so a contract can be awarded on Monday. Then construction can start next week. If we delay
removing the steel supports beyond 45 days it will cost us $600 a day.
Duncan asked if the RFP indicated a time by which the pour needs to take place so we don't have to
pay the penalty. That seems to be an important consideration in selecting a contractor. Tom said he
definitely included that in the email to potential bidders and he made it clear at the site visit.
Mike said he would like to see at least two bids. The board discussed other contractors who might
possibly be willing to bid. Tom said he will contact some other companies and if any show interest
and can get to a site visit this week and promise a response by sometime next week he will delay
awarding the contract by a week. Duncan said he wants to make sure any bidders can hit the target
date.
The board agreed to recess this meeting until Monday at 4:00 for the bid opening.
16. VEC Agreement/MSI Contract
Tom said it looked like the only existing agreement was the grant agreement. Eben said the MSI
contract was done too. Tom said he doesn’t know that he remembers that. The board motioned to
award MSI the contract. Duncan said we didn’t sign the contract. Tom said he added the language
Duncan suggested to the VEC agreement, saying that the town is to be reimbursed the maximum
amount allowable by the grant. And he added language saying Mumley will be representing the Town
of Johnson. Duncan moved to authorize the town administrator or chair to sign the VEC
agreement and thereafter to sign the MSI contract, Mike seconded and the motion was passed.
17. Vermont 250th Resolution
The board agreed to approve the resolution wording presented in the packet and to sign it later after a
more visually attractive version has been produced. Donna Griffiths asked for clarification on whether
the resolution being discussed is different from the one approved at the last meeting. Duncan said he
drafted a resolution that combines language from the two resolutions approved at the last meeting and
can take the place of both of them. Duncan moved to approve the Vermont 250th resolution as
presented, Mike seconded and the motion was passed.
18. Industrial Park
Tom said he believes Mumley has moved forward with the NEPA report.
Mike said there will be 26 units going in in Morrisville and they are close to the interstate. Do we
want to continue to proceed with our industrial park plan? Duncan said he wants to. Mike said when
we first started this we didn't know about the 26 unit park planned in Morrisville. Duncan said that
one doesn't have village water and sewer. He thinks it could take 10 years to fill our industrial park,
but once it is filled and we have tax revenue and job creation, he thinks it will be a benefit to the
community. Eben said Johnson is geographically and economically different. There are larger
industrial parks in larger towns than Morrisville. He doesn't think it makes sense to seesaw on our
plans based on other towns putting in industrial parks.
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Peter asked if Tom knows when the final NEPA report was submitted. Duncan said the final report
will go to the Northern Border Regional Commission. Mumley is still in the process of finalizing their
report to submit to NBRC. Peter asked if there is any idea how much longer they need. Duncan said
he doesn't know. That is a subject of continuous discussion between Randall and Mumley. Originally,
we felt that the NEPA review should be done before we submitted for an Act 250 permit. We had
discussed that that would make it easier to get through Act 250. But he is not sure that was a good
idea. He thinks we should have submitted for an Act 250 permit.
19. Cemetery Maintenance
Duncan said a couple of years ago the board asked him to reach out to the Vermont Old Cemetery
Association and see if we could establish a cemetery work day. He recently got an email from them
discussing a Whiting Hill Cemetery work day. He suggests that the town contract for work on
Evergreen Ledge, Plot and Grow cemeteries. He did about half of the stone repair work needed at
Whiting Hill and he is hoping the Vermont Old Cemetery Association can do the other half with
volunteers. Peter moved to authorize Duncan and Tom to prepare and circulate an RFP for
cemetery maintenance, Adrienne seconded and the motion was passed.
Adrienne asked if the board is okay with her working with Tom to try to get the cemetery added to
Google Maps. She noticed that the pizza oven is not on Google Maps either. Board members agreed
they are okay with Adrienne doing that.
20. Meeting Packets
Adrienne said at the last meeting she said she thought it was important for the meeting packet to be
posted around the same time as the agenda. She thinks Duncan said he was okay with the packet being
on the website but felt that it did not need to be. Duncan said he thinks the town administrator's report
is really for the selectboard so it is not essential for it to be on the website. It is a public document but
it is for the selectboard, not the public.
Adrienne said she looked up when we started posting board packets. In May of 2020 all board
members agreed to post packets on the website. She still thinks it is really important. She is okay with
leaving out anything sensitive. She doesn't want to create more work for Tom. She doesn't think it will
work out to send out the packet only to people who request it. That would mean a lot of emails to
Tom.
Mike said he was in favor of posting the packet in 2020. But he has some concerns about publicly
posting information about bids received. If we put out the meeting packet he thinks it should not
include as much information as the selectboard receives. If it is difficult to have two separate packets
maybe it would be better just to post the agenda.
Peter said he doesn't see the need for everyone to have access to the packet. It feels more valuable to
the board if the administrator compiles it with just the selectboard as the audience, recognizing that
someone could request it. Tom said when it is out on the internet it loses context. He finds himself not
saying what he wants to say because he doesn't want to put it out to the world. The town
administrator’s report should be just for the board.
Eben said he is in favor of packets being on the website. But he agrees with Duncan that they are for
the board. He will send one to anyone who asks. Adrienne said she was emailed three times about the
resolution that was on tonight's agenda because there was no packet posted. Tom said those requests
can be sent to him. He sent out two packets. He doesn't think it will be that common for people to
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contact him requesting a packet. Eben suggested posting the whole packet minus the town
administrator’s report. Tom asked if he could use his judgment to redact other sensitive items.
Adrienne asked if it should be Tom's judgment or the board chair’s.
Duncan said Tom works for the selectboard. He thinks the report really needs to be targeted to board
members. He thinks it is fine to just put the agenda online and send the report to board members. He
doesn't think the report becomes a public document until we have our meeting.
Eben and Adrienne said they would like to have the packets posted online. The other three board
members said they would like to have them sent to the board only.
Adrienne said she thinks Tom does a great job but sometimes he makes mistakes. Maybe something
that someone wanted in the packet will not get put in. She thinks there should be checks and balances.
The public should be able to see what is in the packet to see that what they wanted is there.
Mike moved to post only meeting agendas and to reserve the board packets for the selectboard,
Peter seconded and the motion was passed with Adrienne opposed.
21. Assessor Discussion
Duncan said there is an interlocal agreement committee meeting on Thursday. He has been approved
to attend. He sent out a packet with two spreadsheets over the weekend. Justin has suggested that he
could go from 8 to 10 hours a week for Johnson but Duncan is trying to find out if he really wants to
increase his hours. We have enough money for his benefits if he works 8 hours and gets the maximum
benefits he is eligible for. But if he goes to 10 hours and gets the maximum possible benefits, we
would be about $4,000 shy. If he keeps his health and dental elections as they are now, we would have
enough for 10 hours. Eben said he would rather keep Justin to 8 hours for this year and increase to 10
next year because the year after that we will increase his hours even more for the reappraisal.. Duncan
said any formal change will come back to the board for a decision. Mike said he is in favor of keeping
him at 8 hours because of the uncertainty about healthcare costs. Adrienne said she is in favor of
increasing to 10 hours. Duncan said when we are working on the next budget we need to keep in mind
the need to increase what is budgeted if we want to increase his hours to 10.
22. Old Business – Town Sewer Service Area
Duncan said LCPC is finishing up their work on the Hazard Mitigation Grant Program. As soon as
that is done, Duncan, Alec Jones and Seth Jensen are supposed to finalize the Town Sewer Service
Area map. Duncan needs to make changes to the language of the ordinance and then we can adopt a
new ordinance.
23. Executive Session – Employment Evaluation and Negotiating or Securing of Real Estate Purchase
or Lease Option
Eben moved to go into executive session for employee evaluation and negotiating or securing of
real estate purchase or lease option as allowed by 1 V.S.A. § 313(a)(3) and 1 V.S.A. § 313(a)(2),
inviting Rosemary and Tom to remain, Mike seconded and the motion was passed at 9:21. The
board came out of executive session at 9:55.
24. Adjourn
The meeting was adjourned at 9:55.
Minutes submitted by Donna Griffiths
Agenda
Town of Johnson
Selectboard Regular Meeting
Municipal Building
Monday, May 5th, 2025; 6:30pm
6:30 p.m. Call to order and Standing Items
1. Consider additions or adjustments
2. Review invoices and orders
3. Public Comment
4. Selectboard issues and concerns
5. Consent Agenda
a. Consider approving Minutes for April 7th and April 21st.
b. Planned Purchase, retroactively approving the estimate of $7,046.80 from Allegiance Trucks for
needed repairs the 2019 HX to pass inspection.
6:40 p.m. Clerk & Treasurer’s Report: warrants, licenses, and any action items
6:50 p.m. Road Foreman Report and any action items.
6. Purchase of Budgeted Town Pickup, Tandem, and Equipment
7. Hiring a 5th Employee
7:00 p.m. Administrator’s report, action items, and business of the Selectboard
8. Better Roads Grant, LCPC assisting with Road Inventory
9. Letter of Support for LCPC for Clean Water Service Provider
10. VHB Amendment for Scribner Bridge Scoping Study
11. Rail Trail Committee Projects
12. Resolution Condemning Attacks on Due Process and Affirming the Constitutional Rights
13. Beautification Mini Grant Approval
14. Library Relocation
a. Mumley Contracts
b. Policies needed for reimbursement
c. RFP for Concrete, Award Delegation
15. VEC Agreement/MSI Contract
16. Vermont 250th Resolution
17. Industrial Park
18. Cemetery Maintenance
19. Old Business
a. TA and CEDS priority list, Capital Budget and Plan, TSSA, Joint Properties, Road Reclassification,
Scribner Bridge Grants, Buyout Property Planning, School Street Traffic, Gravel Pit
9:00 p.m. Executive Session
20. Executive Session for Employment Evaluation 1 V.S.A. § 313(a)(3)
21. Executive Session for the Negotiating or Securing of Real Estate Purchase or Lease Options
1 V.S.A. § 313(a)(2)
Adjourn
Town of Johnson
Selectboard Regular Meeting
Municipal Building
Monday, May 5th, 2025; 6:30pm
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