Planning Board
Regular MeetingMadison, NJ · February 7, 2012
Minutes
MINUTES
PLANNING BOARD OF THE BOROUGH OF MADISON
REGULAR MEETING FEBRUARY 7, 2012
A regular meeting of the Planning Board of the Borough of Madison was held on the 7th
day of February 2012 at 7:30 P.M., in Room #140, Hartley Dodge Memorial, 50 Kings
Road, Madison, NJ.
The meeting was called to order by Planning Board Chairman, Steve Tombalakian
Mr. Tombalakian requested the reading of the Public Meeting Notice.
Ms. Boardman read the following statement in accordance with the Open Public
Meetings Act.
“Let the minutes reflect that adequate notice of this meeting has been provided in the
following manner: At the reorganization meeting of the Board held on January 3, 2012,
the Board by Resolution adopted a schedule of meetings.
On January 4, 2012, a copy of the schedule of meetings was posted at the bulletin
board at the entrance to the Hartley Dodge Memorial, was sent to the Madison Eagle and
the Daily Record, and filed with the Borough Clerk all in accordance with the “Open
Public Meetings Act”.
The following roll call was recorded:
Present: Peter Flemming, Sr., Tom Johnson, Michael Kopas, John Forte, Astri Baillie,
Steve Tombalakian, Jeff Gertler, Dr. Vincent Esposito, and Mayor Robert Conley
Absent: None
Excused: None
Also Present: Vince Loughlin, Esq., Planning Board Attorney
Frank Russo, Board Engineer
Susan Blickstein, Board Planner
Frances Boardman, Board Secretary
Approval of Minutes:
Copies of the minutes of the January 17, 2012 regular meeting were distributed to all
Board members for their review prior to this meeting. Corrections were noted in a phone
conversation with Astri Baillie this afternoon. Motion to approve the minutes as corrected
was made by Ms. Baillie, seconded by Mr. Flemming. The following roll call was
recorded:
“Aye” – Mr. Johnson, Mr. Forte, Mr. Flemming, Ms. Baillie, Mr. Gertler, Mr.
Tombalakian Mayor Conley, Dr, Esposito and Mr. Kopas
“Nay” - None
“Abstain” - None
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Comments by the Public:
Mr. Tombalakian opened the floor to the public for anyone who wished to be heard on
any matter not on this evening’s agenda. There was no public present at the meeting that
wished to be heard.
RESOLUTIONS FOR MEMORIALIZATION
Case No. P-09-08
Extension of Time for Resolution Compliance
Andrew & Joann Lee
Block: 701, Lot: 2
194 Rosedale Avenue
Resolution granting the Extension of Time for Resolution Compliance to Andrew &
Joann Lee on property located at 194 Rosedale Avenue, Madison commonly known on
the Borough of Madison Tax Map as Block 701, Lot 2.
The draft resolution was sent via email to the Planning Board members and its
Professionals for review prior to this evening’s meeting. There was a brief discussion
regarding the extension of time in the resolution of 180 days when the request was made
for 120 days. The eligible voting members decided that 180 days as defined in the
resolution was acceptable.
A motion to approve the resolution was requested. The motion was made by Mr.
Flemming, seconded by Mr. Forte; the following roll call was recorded:
“Ayes” – Mr. Johnson, Mr. Forte, and Mr. Flemming
“Nays” – None
“Abstain” –Mayor Conley, Ms. Baillie, Mr. Gertler, Dr. Esposito, Mr. Kopas, and Mr.
Tombalakian
NEW BUSINESS –
CASE NO. P 11-05
Preliminary & Final Site Plan with Variances
Stangle Group, LLC
Block 1801, Lot 9
14 Elmer Street
Mr. Samuel DeAngelis, Attorney for the Applicant began by giving a brief overview of
the application presented to the Board this evening.
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The applicant proposes to demolish the existing structure on the site and construct a
mixed-use building with two first floor commercial spaces and four one-bedroom
residential units on the upper two floors. Two variances are required for this site; off
street parking and fencing within five feet of the rear property line. The applicant had
gone before TCC with a concept review prior to making the final revisions to the plans
and presenting them for a preliminary and final site plan. Mr. DeAngelis will present
three witnesses this evening.
Mr. Andrew Clark, Engineer, 37 Girard Avenue, Chatham was sworn in; Mr. Clark gave
his qualifications, he was accepted as a witness by the Board.
The following exhibits were marked:
Exhibit A-1 – Site Plan Sheet 2 of 9 Existing Conditions
Exhibit A-2 – Site Plan Sheet 3 of 9 Proposed Conditions
Exhibit A-3 – Site Plan Sheet 4 of 9 Lighting Plan
Mr. Clark began with the existing site showing a multifamily home, with non delineated
parking in the rear, shed and patio. There is no formal storm water management on the
existing site. The proposed site shows a narrower building then what exists now, a
formal parking lot with curbing and stripping. The rear of the parking lot will be filled in
along the west end of the curb line which will tie into the box culvert in the rear. A
drywell system is proposed to capture the roof runoff. Ms. Baillie asked about the culvert
and whose property it was on. Mr. Clark stated that it was a municipal culvert; there is an
easement in the rear of the property, close to the boundary line. The conditions of the
culvert were discussed, it was stated that it was a concrete box culvert but no inspections
on the box or its integrity have been done. Any work that is to be done with regards to
the culvert should be directed to the Borough Engineer, Bob Vogel. Mr. Russo asked if it
was possible to relocate the pipe and modify the inlet. Mr. Jensen a neighboring property
was asked if his property tied into the culvert; he answered yes.
Mr. Russo’s memorandum of January 13, 2012 was discussed; Mr. Clark stated that all
requirements from this memorandum would be addressed. The applicant was still
waiting to hear back from the Electric Department regarding the transformer. The
placement of the transformer was discussed; Mr. Clark would like to see it placed directly
behind the transformer that is already on site if there is significant space. The sizing of
the water and sewer connections would need to by addressed with the Borough Engineer.
Once known; the specific elements will be put on the plan. Free standing lights in the
parking lot were the next topic, and it was recommended that the lights be placed on a
timer and that the cut off time be set for 10:00pm as was recommended at the Zoning
Board of Adjustment meeting for the bank on the corner. The applicant stated that he
would be amenable to this condition. LED fixtures were recommended, as they can be
specifically aimed and control spillage.
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Storm water management was discussed; this design was done without the benefit of a
test pit. Mr. Tombalakian asked about the high water table, Mr. Russo said he was not
aware of the table level. There was no pitting on the Fulton Bank application. Mr.
Jensen was asked about the water level, which he stated was very high. Mr. Clark stated
that he would conduct a test pit and certainly look into the water table. Details would be
discussed between professionals regarding the operations of the storm water
management. An Engineer’s Estimate would be provided. The landscaping plan was not
prepared but there are some concerns about putting in a shade tree. Ms. Baillie stated that
the plants that are recommended on the site plan need shade in order to survive; they also
need lots of water. It was recommended that the landscape plan be revisited. A site
fence is proposed, however the applicant will need to clarify the fencing, material, the
height of the fence, and the delineation of the fence along the property. The lighting plan
was discussed; the lighting that is proposed is 3 building mounted fixtures, 2 on the west
side of the building and one in the rear on the north side. The plan also shows a free
standing 15 foot pole in the parking lot, however; some places are exceeding the .1 foot
candle spillage at the boundaries. Mr. Russo suggested an alternate LED fixture would
control the output and the foot candles better, Mr. Clarke will work with a lighting
specialist and analyze the possibilities.
Mr. Tombalakian asked the Board if they had any further questions of Mr. Clarke. Mr.
Gertler asked Mr. Clarke if the 18 foot driveway was mandatory. He replied that 30 feet
is required, but not many properties have that width, the closest is the Fulton Bank site.
The 18 foot drive is a comfortable width for two cars to get passed each other. Mr.
Gertler suggested that perhaps decreasing the size of the driveway could move the
building over six feet and put windows on the right side of the building. The ability to
turn around in the back of the building was also discussed. Seeing no further questions
from the Board of Mr. Clarke, Mr. Tombalakian opened the floor to the members of the
public for questions. Seeing none he closed that portion of the hearing. The next witness
was called.
Mr. Joseph Staigar, 17 Treemont Drive, East Hanover, NJ. He was sworn in and
accepted as an expert Traffic Engineer. Mr. Staigar began his testimony stating that he
had conducted a parking study on Friday, October 14, 2011 and Saturday, October 15,
2011. The peak parking demand on Friday was between 12:00pm – 2:00pm and again
from 6:00pm -9:30pm and Saturday from 12:00pm – 2:00pm and again from 6:00pm to
8:30pm. Mr. Staigar stated that the parking in the area is generated by the restaurant and
retail uses. A minimum of 66 vacant spaces were observed during the time of the study
on Friday lunch time, 90 on Friday evening, 135 Saturday noon time and 112 vacant
spaces on Saturday evening. Office and residences have a different parking pattern and
are compatible since they do not peak at the same time. The RSIS states that seven
parking spaces are necessary for four one bedroom apartments, and eight parking spaces
are necessary for the offices which are a total of 15 however; statistics have shown that a
reduction of 30% on parking demand is prevalent when near mass transit.
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The shared parking will handle 70 to 80 % of the parking demand for this site. There will
be some spillage but there is available parking within 200 feet of the site.
Mr. Staigar discussed the width of the driveway, stating that 18 feet is a functional
minimum for the width, but you could neck it down to 16 feet. There is opportunity to
neck the driveway down to 12 feet and still have a functional one way flow driveway.
Mr. DeAngelis had no further questions of Mr. Staigar; Mr. Tombalakian asked the
Board if they had any questions for Mr. Staiger. Mr. Russo asked how solid waste is to
be handled at the site. A narrow driveway may be problematic for a private hauler and
also for emergency services having adequate room to reach the back of the building. The
Board suggested that Captain Lou DeRosa be contacted and his thoughts shared on the
minimum driveway size as well as comments from the private hauler. Ms. Blickstein
stated that there are a wide range of uses in the CBD-2 zone that may create more of a
parking demand on this site, such as a restaurant or a medical office. Mr. DeAngelis
stated that his client does not propose either use at this site. Ms. Blickstein asked if there
was a concern with retail in the space creating more of a demand on parking. Mr. Staigar
stated that retail would create more of a demand especially on Saturday but he has no real
concern since his study showed an overflow of parking within walking distance to the
site. Ms. Blickstein questioned restrictions that may be placed on the tenants regarding
parking spaces. Mr. Staigar stated that this must be worked out, and will be dependent
upon the users and tenants of the building. Ms. Blickstein suggested that a condition of
the resolution state that parking would not have any restrictions. Discussion regarding
parking continued. Mr. Tombalakian asked the Board if they had any further questions of
Mr. Staigar, seeing none he open the floor to the public, seeing none he closed the public
portion.
The Board took a five minute recess at 9:25pm. The meeting resumed at 9:36pm with all
members present, and the hearing on the Stangle Group application continued.
The next witness was Rui Amaral, 40 Ella Street, Bloomfield, NJ, Architect for the
applicant. He was sworn in, gave his qualifications to the Board and accepted as an
expert witness.
The following Exhibits were marked:
Exhibit A-4 – Sheet A4 Rendering of the Project.
Exhibit A-5 - Sheet A2 Ground Floor and 2nd Floor plan.
Exhibit A-6 – Sheet A3 3rd floor plan.
Exhibit A-7 – Sheet A1 Elevations
Exhibit A-8 – Material list
Exhibit A-9- James Building on Main Street
Exhibit A-10 – Original Site Plan presented at TCC
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Mr. Amaral began by briefly describing the plans for the project. The first floor will be
occupied by two retail spaces with the main entrance in the front of the building with the
rear entrance being primarily a fire exit. The second and third floors will consist of two
one bedroom apartments; the main entrance for these apartments will be in the rear of the
building. The building is on the property line, however if the building is moved in three
feet, the right side would be able to mimic the left side and the offices would have more
space. The material board was discussed with the Board at length. The roof shingles,
vinyl siding and hardy board were shown to the Board members. Awnings are proposed
for the front of the stores. Mr. DeAngelis stated that the applicant had met with Sign and
Façade numerous times and had done a walking tour of the town focusing on the façade
of the James Building. Mr. Gertler stated that the building has no structure, no essence
and no form.
Mr. Robert Fonseca, 29 Alma Avenue, Madison, NJ applicant was sworn in and
expressed his concerns that were received from the Sign and Façade Committee. He
stated that what the Board is suggesting was done on day one. Mr. Flemming stated that
the Board and Committee’s were here to guide not design the building for the applicant.
It was suggested that the front facade be revised and simplified and that the application
come back at the March 6, 2012 with the façade elevation revisions. Also the minimal
width of the driveway should be discussed with the fire department. Ms. Boardman
asked for correspondence from the Sign and Façade Committee for this application for
the case file. Mr. Tobalakian opened the floor to the Board for questions or comments.
Dr. Esposito stated that he feels that the front façade is adequate and that the Planning
Board should be able to move on things in a timely manner. The applicants are spending
an excessive of money on professionals and wasting a lot of time on revisions.
This application is being carried to the March 6, 2012 Planning Board meeting without
further notice being required.
OLD BUSINESS - There was no old business before the Board this evening.
PLANNING DISCUSSION –
• LED Price Signs – Gas Stations
This discussion item was carried to the next meeting of March 6, 2012
CORRESPONDENCE – There was no correspondence to discuss this evening.
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Since there was no further business to come before the Board, Mr. Tombalakian made a
motion to adjourn the regular meeting at 10:50 P.M.; seconded by Mr. Johnson. A voice
vote of “aye” was heard by all members present and carried.
Respectfully submitted,
Frances Boardman
Board Secretary
Agenda
MADISON PLANNING BOARD REGULAR MEETING
TUESDAY FEBRUARY 7, 2012 AT 7:30 P.M.
ROOM #140
50 KINGS ROAD
MADISON, NEW JERSEY
AGENDA
1. Call to Order by Chairperson
2. Pledge of Allegiance
3. Announcement of Notice
4. Roll Call
5. Approval of Minutes
6. Comments by the Public
RESOLUTIONS FOR MEMORIALIZATION
CASE NO. P 09-08 - Resolution granting the Extension of Time for Resolution Compliance
to Andrew & Joann Lee as Applicant for the Extension of Time for Resolution
Compliance on property located at 194 Rosedale Avenue, Madison, commonly known on the
Borough of Madison Tax Map as Block 701, Lot 2 for adoption.
7. NEW BUSINESS –
CASE NO. P 11-05
Preliminary & Final Site Plan with Variances
Stangle Group, LLC
Block: 1801, Lot: 9
14 Elmer Street
8. OLD BUSINESS –
9. PLANNING DISCUSSION –
10. CORRESPONDENCE –
11. ADJOURNMENT -
Motion by ________________ Seconded by___________________
CARRIED AT _______________________
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