Historic District Commission
Regular MeetingManistee, MI · June 4, 2009
Minutes
HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
Council Chambers, City Hall
70 Maple Street
Manistee, MI 49660
MEETING MINUTES
June 4, 2009
A Meeting of the Manistee City Historic District Commission was held on Thursday, June 4, 2009 at 3:00
p.m. in the Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street, Manistee, Michigan.
Meeting was called to order at 3:00 p.m. by Chair Kracht.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Dave Carlson, Maria DeRee, T. Eftaxiadis, Teena Kracht, Nathaniel Neider, John
Perschbacher
Members Absent: Vacancy, Mallory Barkholz (Youth Observer)
Others: Travis Alden (Main Street/DDA Director), Jon Rose (Community Development),
Steve Harold (Manistee County Historical Museum) and Denise Blakeslee (Planning
& Zoning)
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
MOTION by Dave Carlson, seconded by Maria DeRee that the Agenda for the June 4, 2009 Meeting be
approved.
With a Voice Vote this motion passed Unanimously.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
MOTION by Maria DeRee, seconded by John Perschbacher that the Minutes of the May 7, 2009 Meeting
be approved.
With a voice vote this motion passed 5 to 0 with Commissioner Eftaxiadis abstaining due to his absence at
the last meeting
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NEW BUSINESS:
Amor Sign Studios/The Ideal Kitchen, 421 River Street - Window Signage
A request has been received from Amor Sign Studios/The Ideal Kitchen, 421 River Street for a Certificate
of Appropriateness for window signage as submitted with Application HDC-2009-12.
MOTION by T. Eftaxiadis, seconded by Maria DeRee to approve the request for a Certificate of
Appropriateness for signage as submitted with Application HDC-2009-12.
With a roll call vote this motion passed 6 to 0.
Yes: Neider, Eftaxiadis, Perschbacher, Carlson, DeRee, Kracht
No: None
Amor Sign Studios/Surroundings, 423 River Street - Window Signage
A request has been received from Amor Sign Studios/Surroundings, 423 River Street for a Certificate of
Appropriateness for window signage as submitted with Application HDC-2009-13.
MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by T. Eftaxiadis to approve the request for a Certificate of
Appropriateness for signage as submitted with Application HDC-2009-13.
With a roll call vote this motion passed 6 to 0.
Yes: Perschbacher, Eftaxiadis, DeRee, Neider, Carlson, Kracht
No: None
James Pawlowski, 395 River Street - Extension of Permit PHDC08021
James Pawlowski, 395 River Street was issued a permit from the Historic District Commission on July 7,
2008 for facade improvements as shown on Application HDC-2008-21. Permits are granted for a one year
period of time and Mr. Pawlowski is requesting an extension from the Historic District Commission.
MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by Maria DeRee to approvethe request for an extension of permit
PHDC08021 until July 7, 2010.
With a roll call vote this motion passed 6 to 0
Yes: DeRee, Carlson, Perschbacher, Neider, Eftaxiadis, Kracht
No: None
OLD BUSINESS
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None
PUBLIC COMMENTS AND COMMUNICATIONS CONCERNING ITEMS NOT ON THE
AGENDA
Travis Alden, Main Street/DDA Director - informed the Commission that the Main Street Design
Committee will process requests for DDA Facade Grant requests for buildings outside the Historic District.
CORRESPONDENCE
Commissioners received copies of correspondence from Jon Rose as follows:
Manistee Insurance, 330 River Street
Letter dated May 8, 2009 to Manistee Insurance regarding the need to remove the two internally lit signs
as conditioned on permit PHDC08030. Signs have been removed. No Action required.
Michelle & Rebecca Williams, 333 River Street
Letter dated May 8, 2009 to Michelle & Rebecca Williams, 333 River Street - permit PHDC0814 expiring
on June 6, 2009. No request was received to extend permit.
MOTION by Dave Carlson, seconded by Maria DeRee to Close the permit.
With a voice vote motion passed Unanimously.
John & Lucy Smith, 437 River Street
Letter dated May 8, 2009 to John & Lucy Smith, 437 River Street - permit PHDC08017 expiring on June
6, 2009. No request was received to extend permit.
MOTION by T. Eftaxiadis, seconded by Maria DeRee to Close the permit.
With a voice vote motion passed Unanimously.
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Ronald & Suzann Gardin, 390 River Street
Letter dated May 8, 2009 to Ronald & Suzann Gardin, 390 River Street - permit PHDC08009 expired on
March 6, 2009, PHDC08011 expired on April 3, 2008, permit PHDC08018 expiring on June 6, 2009. No
request was received to extend permits.
MOTION by T. Eftaxiadis, seconded by Maria DeRee to Close all three permits.
With a voice vote motion passed Unanimously.
Letter from Tom Amor Jr., Amor Sign Studios
Letter dated May 14, 2009 from Tom Amor Jr., Amor Sign Studios to Chair Kracht (attached).
E-mail from Tom Amor Jr., Amor Sign Studios
Copy of e-mail dated May 14, 2009 from Tom Amor Jr., Amor Sign Studios to Jon Rose regarding signage
at Surroundings and Keleher Law Offices. Response from Jon Rose dated May 15, 2009 that legal
conforming signs can be replaced if destroyed (Surroundings) and that the Directory at Keleher’s office can
be updated.
STAFF REPORTS
Steve Harold gave the Commission an update on the building at 135 Washington Street. Jon Rose spoke
of the improvement to the building.
Steve Harold spoke of the use of wood -vs- cement board siding for Non-Contributing Buildings. This item
will be placed on a worksession agenda for future discussion.
Jon Rose, Community Development Director - requested an extension for investigating the replacement of
the flag pole at City Hall.
MOTION by Dave Carlson, seconded by Maria DeRee that Mr. Rose is to continue his investigation and
as stated in the permit must bring an application to the Historical Commission once a replacement pole has
been found.
With a voice vote motion passed unanimously.
Denise Blakeslee spoke to the Commission about a request for “Smokers Posts” to be used in the Historic
District. Copies were shown of previously approve posts for the Ramsdell Theatre and City Hall.
MOTION by T. Eftaxiadis, seconded by Maria DeRee to allow the previously approved “Smokers Posts”
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(Rubbermaid Groundskeeper Tuscan Smokers Receptacle - Black and Ultra Smokestop Roman Column -
Gray) to be used in the Historic District.
With a voice vote motion passed unanimously.
Denise Blakeslee spoke of the new language that City Council developed for absences for
Boards/Commissions each were handed a copy of the language for review. This will be on the July agenda
for adoption.
WORKSESSION
Chair Kracht had requested that the Historic District Commission hold a worksession after the business
section of the June 4, 2009 meeting was over.
Policy #1 Sigange/Awning & Policy #10 Original Signage/Architectural Features
Policy #1 was previously the Temporary Signage Policy. A policy has been drafted that could replace the
Temporary Signage Policy with a new Signage/Awning policy.
Policy #10 updates and identifies buildings that have Original Signage/Architectural Features that the
Commission feels are important to preserve or remove items that are not original.
Commissioners discussed both policies and after discussion removed the language for 308 River Street from
Policy #10.
MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by Maria DeRee that the Historic District Commission approve
the amended Policy #1 from Temporary Signage to Signage Awning and Policy #10 from Original Signage
to Original Signage/Architectural Features removing the language for 308 River Street (attached).
With a roll call vote this motion passed 6 to 0.
Yes: Neider, Eftaxiadis, Perschbacher, DeRee, Carlson, Kracht
No: None
Policy #13 - Murals
After discussion it was decided that the draft policy #13 Murals needed to be re-written. Chair Kracht and
Denise Blakeslee will work on language for the Commission to review at the July Meeting.
Members Discussion
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Chair Kracht spoke of the renovations at the Haley Sisters Building. One of the occupants inquired if they
could reinstall exterior lights on the building? The renovation plan for the Purdom Building includes
exterior lights. This would require a request to the Commission.
Chair Kracht attended a workshop and will verify with Robb McKay if the State needs to review our
Guidelines.
Commissioner Carlson spoke of the public perception of the Commission and the good that the Commission
is doing even if it is not realized at this time.
Commissioner Eftaxiadis spoke of the Commissions job to maintain the Historic Resource in the District
and the need to make things easier for applicants.
Commissioner Neider spoke of the need for Public Awareness of the good the Commission is doing for the
District and need for PR and the seminars that are available for the public to attend.
Commissioner DeRee noted that the Candy Store has two lighted “Open Signs” they are only allowed one
under the Guidelines. Staff will send a letter.
Due to the July 4th Holiday the Next meeting of the Historic District Commission will be on Thursday, July
9, 2009 at 3:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION by T. Eftaxiadis, seconded by Maria DeRee that the meeting be adjourned. Motion passed
unanimously.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 4:42 P.M.
MANISTEE HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
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Denise J. Blakeslee, Recording Secretary
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