Historic District Commission
Regular MeetingManistee, MI · July 9, 2009
Minutes
HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
Council Chambers, City Hall
70 Maple Street
Manistee, MI 49660
MEETING MINUTES
July 9, 2009
A Meeting of the Manistee City Historic District Commission was held on Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 3:00
p.m. in the Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street, Manistee, Michigan.
Meeting was called to order at 3:04 p.m. by Chair Kracht.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Dave Carlson, Teena Kracht, Nathaniel Neider, John Perschbacher
Members Absent: Maria DeRee (excused), T. Eftaxiadis (excused), Vacancy
Others: Elbert Purdom (369 River Street), Travis Alden (Main Street/DDA Director), Jon
Rose (Community Development), Steve Harold (Manistee County Historical Museum)
and Denise Blakeslee (Planning & Zoning)
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
MOTION by Dave Carlson, seconded by John Perschbacher that the Agenda for the July 9, 2009 Meeting
be approved.
With a voice vote this motion passed unanimously.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by Dave Carlson that the Minutes of the June 4, 2009 Meeting
be approved.
With a voice vote this motion passed unanimously.
Since the applicant for items on the agenda was not present, the Commission allowed Elbert Purdom - Big
Bear Investments, 369 River Street asked to speak to the Commission about his project.
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The demolition to the front of the building has been completed and arches above the lower cornice were
revealed. Mr Purdom and Steve Harold discussed including the arches in the renovation of the front elevation
of the Building. The Architect has done drawings including the arches for the members to review and the
Contractor said there would be no increase in cost to incorporate the new elements.
Discussion on the request included the following:
Commissioner Perschbacher asked if there are any pictures to authenticate that this was originally reveled on
the building? He felt that they would have been covered by another element that has since been removed.
Steve Harold said that there are no photographs on file at the Museum to authenticate that the arches were
originally exposed. He thought that originally there would have been columns and smaller windows on the
storefront that would have been removed in the early 1900's.
Commissioner Carlson said that this is an emergency situation and that a Special Meeting should be called
to allow this project to stay on schedule. He likes the look of the arches and the new plan.
Commissioner Neider thought the arches looked great!
Chair Kracht said that there may not be any photos to authenticate if the arches were left exposed, you can
see that they are original to the building. There is documentation for the building at 435 River Street that
the elements that covered the window arches were removed. Incorporating the arches in the renovation does
not set a precedence because there is no documentation that they were covered originally and are an
architectural feature.
The Commission declared this an emergency situation because it is a renovation project where original
architectural features were discovered during demolition that would result in a hardship to the owner to wait
until the August Meeting.
With consensus from the members that a quorum would be available the Chair scheduled a Special Meeting
for Monday, July 13, 2009 at 10:00 a.m. in the Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street, Manistee,
Michigan.
NEW BUSINESS:
Paula M. Rozmiarek and Jeff Gordon, 347 River Street - Reconstruction/Rehabilitation of store front
HDC-2009-14
Application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for reconstruction/rehabilitation of storefront as submitted
with Application HDC-2009-14.
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The Applicant was not in attendance. The Commission discussed each of the elements of the request and
conditions that would be applicable to the request.
MOTION by Dave Carlson, seconded by Nathaniel Neider to approve the request for a Certificate of
Appropriateness with the following conditions for the reconstruction/rehabilitation of the storefront at 347
River Street as submitted with Application HDC-2009-14 as follows:
Remove red planks from exterior, exposing historic store front.
Remove cement tiles and expose deck of historic window displays.
Reconstruct the window frames and store front matching the historic details found behind the current
facade. The Museum Director will oversee the project and if needed refer any issues back to the
Commission.
Following Historic Preservation Brief #2 - Repointing Mortar Joints in Historic Masonry Buildings
tuck point the bricks on the building front, using lime mortar. If any bricks need to be replaced,
original bricks from building will be used.
Any paint removed shall be removed following Historic Preservation Brief #1Assessing Cleaning
and Water-Repellent Treatments for Historic Masonry Buildings.
The Historic District Commission will allow the wood oak trim to be stained and varnished BUT
STRONGLY ENCOURAGE use of pigmented finish (paint). Paint Color and Stain Colors to be
approved by the Museum Director.
With a roll call vote this motion passed 4 to 0.
Yes: Carlson, Perschbacher, Neider, Kracht
No: None
Jeff Gordon and Paula M. Rozmiarek, 411 River Street Reconstruction/Rehabilitation of side and
rear of building HDC-2009-15
Application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for reconstruction/rehabilitation of building as submitted
with Application HDC-2009-15.
The Applicant was not in attendance. The Commission discussed each of the elements of the request and
conditions that would be applicable to the request.
MOTION by Nathaniel Neider, seconded by Dave Carlson to approve the request for a Certificate of
Appropriateness with the following conditions for the reconstruction/rehabilitation of the building at 347
River Street as submitted with Application HDC-2009-15 as follows:
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East Elevation:
Remove the cornice from the upper portion of the building and re-seal the roof.
Replace any missing bricks with those of similar color and size. Following Historic Preservation Brief
#2 - Repointing Mortar Joints in Historic Masonry Buildings
Remove the lower cornice that currently runs along the East side of the Building.
The roof will be edged by a pre-painted steel back with either a brown or low-luster copper color.
South Elevation:
Remove existing deck and deck roof.
Rebuild deck to be similar in size, eliminating deck roof with final approval of design by the Museum
Director and that the deck be finished with pigmented finish within one year of completion.
With a roll call vote this motion passed 4 to 0..
Yes: Neider, Carlson, Perschbacher, Kracht
No: None
By-Law Update
City Council has developed language that will be used by all the City of Manistee Boards and Commissions
for absences. This language has been incorporated into the Historic District Commissions By-Laws.
MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by Dave Carlson that the Historic District Commission amend
their By-Laws to reflect the new language relating to absences.
With a roll call vote this motion passed 4 to 0..
Yes: Neider, Carlson, Perschbacher, Kracht
No: None
Travis Alden, Main Street/DDA Director - Update
Travis Alden, Main Street DDA Director will give an update on the Activities in the District.
The Main Street Design Committee is working on displays that will be placed in vacant storefronts to
generate interest in the Downtown and Community Activities.
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Spoke of looking at recycling containers for the district. Showed samples for the Commissions input.
OLD BUSINESS
Policy #13 Murals
The Historic District Commission has been working on developing language for a policy on murals. The
Commissioners received a draft of new language that reflects the discussion from their Worksession on June
4, 2009.
MOTION by Dave Carlson, seconded by John Perschbacher to adopt Policy #13 Murals.
With a roll call vote this motion passed 4 to 0.
Yes: Carlson, Neider, Perschbacher, Kracht
No: None
PUBLIC COMMENTS AND COMMUNICATIONS CONCERNING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA
Commissioner Perschbacher spoke of the Masonic Temple Emblems and the language that was placed in
Policy #10.
Richard Knechtges Jr. - Said he was in support of the recycling efforts and commended Mr. Alden on his
efforts.
CORRESPONDENCE
R&J Raven Corporation, 225 Cottage Grove S.E., Grand Rapids, Michigan - Letter of introduction & copy
of Builder/Architect Magazine, West Mcihgain Edition, June 1998. This firm supplies historical windows
and doors.
STAFF REPORTS
Steve Harold
Approved repair and maintenance of the retaining wall at the City Drug building.
Approved a change to the painting plan on the Haley Sisters Building.
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Denise Blakeslee
Spoke to the Commission about re-scheduling the October Historic District Commission Meeting from
October 1, 2009 to October 8, 2009. Both she and Jon Rose will be attending the Michigan Association of
Planners Conference.
MOTION by Dave Carlson, seconded by Nathaniel Neider to re-schedule the October Historic District
Commission meeting from October 1, 2009 to October 8, 2009.
With a voice vote this motion passed unanimously.
Spoke to the Commission about John Smith’s Building at 435 River Street. The Oak Street entrance that
was removed and covered up needs to be addressed.
The Commission directed Jon Rose and Steve Harold to contact Mr. Smith and see if he would attend the
next meeting of the Historic District Commission for design assistance.
The Next regularly scheduled meeting of the Historic District Commission will be on Thursday, August 6,
2009 at 3:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION by Dave Carlson, seconded by Nathaniel Neider that the meeting be adjourned. Motion passed
unanimously.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 4:57 P.M.
MANISTEE HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
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Denise J. Blakeslee, Recording Secretary
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