Historic District Commission
Regular MeetingManistee, MI · September 5, 2013
Minutes
HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
Council Chambers, City Hall
70 Maple Street
Manistee, MI 49660
MEETING MINUTES
September 5, 2013
A Meeting of the Manistee City Historic District Commission was held on Thursday, September 5, 2013
at 3:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street, Manistee, Michigan.
Meeting was called to order at 3:04 p.m. by Chair Kracht.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Dave Carlson, Maria DeRee, Teena Kracht, John Perschbacher, Mary Russell
Members Absent: T. Eftaxiadis (excused), Jeremy Loveless
Others: John Smith (435 River Street), Mark Niesen (Building Inspector), Mitch Deisch
(City Manager), Travis Alden (Main Street/DDA Director), Mark Fedder (Manistee
County Historical Museum) Steve Harold (Manistee County Historical Museum)
and Denise Blakeslee (Planning & Zoning)
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by Maria DeRee that the Agenda be approved as prepared.
With a voice vote this motion unanimously.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by Mary Russell that the Minutes of the August 1, 2013
Meeting be approved as prepared.
With a voice vote this motion unanimously.
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NEW BUSINESS:
John Smith, 435 River Street – Icehouse and Oak Street Entrance
The Commission reviewed the district at their August 1, 2013 meeting and expressed concerns about
the building at 435 River Street. The Commission previously discussed the condition of the Icehouse
and the boarding up of the Oak Street Entrance with the owner. Commissioner Eftaxiadis was unable
to attend the meeting but sent an e-mail with his concerns relating to the Icehouse which the
commissioners received copies of prior to the meeting (attached). Mr. Smith was sent a letter
notifying him that this item was on the September 5, 2013 meeting agenda.
Denise Blakeslee - reviewed a timeline of discussions with Mr. Smith from previous meetings and a
copy of the Michigan Main Street Design Services recommendation for 435-437 River Street.
John Smith (435 River Street) - spoke of the Oak Street entrance and how it will never be used again,
he had permission from Steve Harold to remove the entrance, and then the commission was
established.
Mr. Smith - spoke of the Icehouse and his concern about how it is structurally tied into the adjoining
building. He proposed that during demolition a portion of the adjoining wall to the west remain to
provide support.
Mark Niesen, Building Inspector - said that he would require engineering because of the situation and
because it is a commercial building.
Mr. Smith - agreed that the west wall needs to be removed.
The Commission discussed the concern about the structural integrity of the adjoining building and
since engineering is required by the Building Inspector prior to demolition determined that engineering
should be done and reviewed by Mark Niesen, Building Inspector; then the demolition request can
come to the Commission; Ms. Blakeslee with assist Mr. Smith with the application process.
Steve Harold spoke with Mr. Smith about the Oak Street Entrance; Mr. Smith wanted to brick the
entrance up and Mr. Harold believed the cost would be similar to proceed with the plan drafted by
Kelly Larson, State Historic Architect.
Maria DeRee - noted that there may be Façade Grant Funds that could be used for the project.
The Commission expressed their concerns about the unsightliness of the tar paper; Mr. Smith agreed
to redo the tar paper and will review the plan and cost for proceeding with the plan drafted by Kelly
Larson.
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Mr. Smith - spoke to the Commission about parking and utility work in the right-of-way.
Appreciation Letters
The Commission discussed sending letters of appreciation for large projects that have been completed
in the district. Chair Kracht will write a note and sign them on behalf of the Commission. Letters will
be sent for the following projects:
Sharry Curtis, 141 – 149 Washington - Paint Colors (2010)
Manistee County Library, 95 Maple Street – Retaining Wall (2011)
United Way of Manistee County, 449 River Street – Façade Improvements (2011)
Manistee Council on Aging, 457 River Street – Paint Colors (2011)
James Pawlowski, 395 River Street – Façade Improvements and Paint Colors (2012)
Snyder’s Shoes, 397 River Street – Paint Colors (2012)
Briny Inn, 50 Filer Street – Window Replacement/Paint colors (2012, 2013)
Mike Cnudde, 335 River Street – Façade Improvements/Paint Colors (2012)
Ann & Barry Lind, 384 River Street – Paint Colors (2012)
Rich Mosher, 358 River Street – Paint Colors (2012)
Rich Mosher, 360 River Street – Paint Colors (2012
Edward Reed, 365 River Street – Routine Repair & Maintenance/Paint Colors (2012)
Shari Wild, 431 River Street – Reinstallation of Historic Sign “Gardners” (2012)
Maria DeRee, 389 River Street – Paint Colors (2013)
JSA Maple Street LLC, 81 Maple Street – Routine Repair & Maintenance (Repoint brick/Terra Cotta)
2013
Manistee Historical Society, 425 River Street – Routine Repair & Maintenance/Paint Colors (2013)
OLD BUSINESS
None
PUBLIC COMMENTS AND COMMUNICATIONS CONCERNING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA
None
CORRESPONDENCE
Members of the Commission received a copy of an email from Robb McKay, State Historical Architect,
SHPO regarding Joe Mathewson’s project at 339 River Street (copy attached).
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STAFF REPORTS
Travis Alden, DDA/Main Street Director – suggested coordinating appreciation letters with the
closeout packets for Façade Grants; will be leaving Main Street/DDA end of September to become the
Director of the Vogue Theater (renovation completed by November 15th, opening Sleighbell Weekend);
spoke of his pleasure working with the Commission; spoke of the success of the façade grant program.
Commissioners expressed their appreciation for all the work that Mr. Alden has done and wished him
the best of luck in his new position.
Mark Fedder, Museum Director - reported to the Commission the permits he has issued this past
month:
United Way, 449 River Street - Routine Repair and Maintenance (trim work) and Repaint to match
existing colors issued permit #PHDC13-023
Mike Duffy/Swankyz, 393 River Street – Paint Colors (Base Color - Behr Butter Yellow ICC-90; Major
Trim Colors - Valspar La-Fanda Olive 6006-6B; Minor Trim Color - Behr Deep Evergreen PMD-66).
issued permit #PHDC13-024
Vogue Theatre, 381 River Street – Routine Repair & Maintenance and Paint Colors; Remove brick
around north and east windows; replace steel piers on both sides; replace steel support beam;
remove/replace concrete blocks; replace brick removed around windows to reface north and east
portions around windows. Any broken bricks will have to be matched. Contractor will use Guidelines
in Preservation Brief 2 Repointing Mortar Joints in Historic Masonry Buildings during the reinstallation
process. Paint Color Sherwin Williams Cinnabar SW2714 will be used around round medallions on
building as needed. Issued permit #PHDC13-025
Bluefish Kitchen & Bar, 312 River Street - Installation of directional signage for the waterfront. Issued
permit #PHDC13-026
Big Fish Outlet, 400 River Street – Installation of 4 wall signs on River Street, 1 Wall Sign on Maple
Street, Parking Signage and Window Signage. Waterfront. Issued permit #PHDC13-027
Denise Blakeslee, Planning & Zoning – compiled National Historic Preservation paint samples for the
Museum Director.
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MEMBERS DISCUSSION
Commissioner DeRee handed Chair Kracht a letter of resignation effective October 1, 2013. She said it
has been an awesome privilege to work with the Commission.
The Commissioners wished her well and spoke of what an asset she has been to the Commission.
Commissioner Perschbacher spoke of utility work in the right of way and his experiences with the
workmen.
The Next meeting of the Historic District Commission was rescheduled to Thursday, October 10, 2013
at 3:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by Maria DeRee that the meeting be adjourned. Motion
passed unanimously.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 4:20 P.M.
MANISTEE HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
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Denise J. Blakeslee, Recording Secretary
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Agenda
MANISTEE CITY HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
Meeting of Thursday, September 5, 2013
3:00 p.m. - Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street,
Manistee, Michigan
AGENDA
I Call to Order
II Roll Call
III Approval of Agenda
At this time the Historic District Commission can take action to approve the September 5, 2013
Agenda.
IV Approval of Minutes
At this time Historic District Commission can take action to approve the August 1, 2013 meeting
Minutes.
V New Business
John Smith, 435 River Street – Icehouse and Oak Street Entrance
The Commission reviewed the district at their August 1, 2013 meeting and expressed concerns
about the building at 435 River Street. The Commission previously discussed the condition of
the Icehouse and the boarding up of the Oak Street Entrance with the owner. The Commission
will be discussing the condition of the building.
Appreciation Letters
The Commission will discuss sending letters of appreciation for projects that have been
completed in the district.
VI Old Business
VII Public Comments and Communications concerning Items not on the Agenda
At this time the Chair will ask if there are any public comments.
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VIII Correspondence
At this time the Chair will ask if any correspondence has been received to be read into the
record.
IX Reports
Main Street/DDA Director
Museum Curator
Museum Director
Planning and Zoning Staff
X Members Discussion
At this time the Chair will ask members of the Historic District Commission if they have any
items they want to discuss.
XI Worksession
XII Adjournment
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HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
Council Chambers, City Hall
70 Maple Street
Manistee, MI 49660
MEETING MINUTES
August 1, 2013
A Meeting of the Manistee City Historic District Commission was held on Thursday, August 1, 2013 at
3:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street, Manistee, Michigan.
Meeting was called to order at 3:03 p.m. by Chair Kracht.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Dave Carlson, Teena Kracht, Jeremy Loveless, John Perschbacher, Mary Russell
Members Absent: Maria DeRee, T. Eftaxiadis (excused)
Others: Joe Mathewson (339 River Street), Rob Sandstedt (Sandstedt Coating), Mark
Fedder (Manistee County Historical Museum) and Denise Blakeslee (Planning &
Zoning) and others
Since the Commission was reviewing the district during the meeting, it was decided that New Business
would be moved after Member Discussion.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
MOTION by Dave Carlson, seconded by Mary Russell that the Agenda be approved as discussed.
With a voice vote this MOTION APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
MOTION by Mary Russell, seconded by Jeremy Loveless that the Minutes of the July 11, 2013 Meeting
be approved as prepared.
With a voice vote this MOTION APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY
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OLD BUSINESS
None
Commissioner Perschbacher entered the meeting.
PUBLIC COMMENTS AND COMMUNICATIONS CONCERNING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA
Joe Mathewson, 339 River Street and Rob Sandstedt, Sandstedt Coating. – Mr. Mathewson and Mr.
Sandstedt discussed with the commission their proposal to remove the paint from the columns on the
building at 339 River Street. Mr. Sandstedt spoke of his credentials, proposal to sandblast the brick to
remove the paint. The Commission explained that sandblasting is not an approve method for paint
removal in the district. Mr. Sandstedt said that he has used it on other buildings with success. Mr.
Mathewson spoke of his meeting with a paint representative to try to find a method to remove the
silver coating. The Commission asked that Mr. Mathewson and Mr. Sandstedt prepare a scope of work
and supporting documentation along with photos that could be sent to Robb McKay, Historical
Architect for the State Historic Preservation Office for his review. The Commission agreed to hold a
special meeting if necessary.
CORRESPONDENCE
None
STAFF REPORTS
Mark Fedder, Museum Director – issued permit to the Manistee County Historical Society, 425 River
Street - Paint outside window sills (6) with matching semi-gloss brown paint; Sand & repaint outside
pillars/columns to match existing black; Paint outside brick lower story columns with matching semi-
gloss paint; Repair bases under four metal columns will be painted black; Paint front screen doors to
match sills and brick columns; Paint front entrance doors to match sills and brick columns; On West
portion of Building fill in space between sidewalk and basement windows with concrete issued permit
PHDC13-022.
Denise Blakeslee, Recording Secretary
Staff is requesting to change the date of the October 3, 2013 Historic District Commission Meeting.
Staff will be attending the Michigan Association of Planning Conference in Kalamazoo.
MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by Mary Russell that the Historic District Commission that
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the October Meeting be rescheduled to October 10, 2013.
With a voice vote this MOTION APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY
MEMBERS DISCUSSION
None
NEW BUSINESS:
Review of District
Members of the Historic District Commission toured the District. Photographs were taken of the
buildings and some outstanding permits were closed.
The Commission discussed adding language to the bottom of the permit asking the owner to contact
staff when a project is complete so the permit can be closed.
The Next meeting of the Historic District Commission will be on Thursday, September 5, 2013 at 3:00
p.m. in the Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION by Dave Carlson, seconded by Mary Russell that the meeting be adjourned.
With a voice vote this MOTION APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 4:23 P.M.
MANISTEE HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
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Denise J. Blakeslee, Recording Secretary
City of Manistee Historic District Commission
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Planning & Zoning
231.398.2805
Fax 231.723-1546
MEMORANDUM www.manisteemi.gov
To: Historic District Commissioners
From: Denise Blakeslee
Planning & Zoning
Date: August 27, 2013
RE: Manistee Variety Building
Commissioners, during our tour of the district on August 1, 2013 the Commission wanted to
begin discussion on the condition of the “ice house” on the Manistee Variety Building. Also the
tar paper has blown off and is in disrepair over the oak street entrance that was closed off.
Timeline – Excerpts from Meeting Minutes/Worksession Notes
November 1, 2007 Steve Harold notified the Commission that the Building at 435 River
Street had removed and boarded up some of the windows on Oak Street. They were told that
approval was required of the Commission and have stopped the demolition process. A letter
will be sent inviting the owner to submit an application or discuss the proposed project with the
Commission at the December Meeting.
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December 6, 2007 No Quorum, no action taken
January 3, 2008 Mr. Smith was in attendance at the December Historic District
Commission in response to a letter that was sent to him regarding alterations to his building.
Mr. Smith dropped off a copy of a plan that was reviewed in July of 2006.
Mr. Smith was requesting assistance from the HDC as to what he should ask for. Mr. Smith was
given copies of the Secretary of the Interior’s Standards for Rehabilitation and Guidelines for
Rehabilitating Historic Buildings. Mr. Smith was advised to meet with the Building Inspector to
determine if any of his proposed modifications were structural in nature. He will need to
submit a formal request to the commission.
March 5, 2009 Commissioner DeRee spoke of the skylights at the Rozmarek Building and
the tar paper/window covering at Manistee Variety. Discussed the need to work with the
owner on a more permanent repair.
July 9, 2009 Denise Blakeslee spoke to the Commission about John Smith’s Building at
435 River Street. The Oak Street entrance tht was removed and covered p needs to be
addressed. The Commission directed Jon Rose and Steve Harold to contact Mr. Smith and see if
he would attend the next meeting of the HDC for design assistance.
November 5, 2009 A request has been received from John Smith, 435 River Street for Design
Assistance for his building at 435 River Street. Mr. Smith had previously removed the windows,
door to the Oak Street entrance of his building and boarded up the entrance. At this time Mr.
Smith is asking the Commission for permission to brick up the opening.
Mr. Smith also discussed other projects he wants to do to his building such as removal of the ice
house on the rear of the building because it is falling down and what type of “shielding” the
commission wants to see between the Artist Mall building and the Hallmark building.
The Commission thanked Mr. Smith for his request and due to the late hour they will schedule a
worksession to discuss options for Mr. Smith. He said to give him a call and he will be happy to
attend the worksession to answer any questions.
November 13, 2009 Mr. Smith spoke to the Commission about proposed renovations to his
building. Including:
Demolition of the Ice House
Rear of Building Improvements (Water Street) - Window replacement, door
replacement,
Repair to brick/mortar and the detailed elements on the top of the building (metal
caps).
Front facade updates - Front Window Replacment
Interior improvements - refinishing oak floors.
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Asked for assistance with projects. He is willing to spend some money and would like to review
possible grants/assistance for the projects. Travis Alden spoke of some of the funding that is
available and will meet with Mr. Smith next week to discuss options and possible design
assistance. The Committee asked Mr. Smith to put felt over the Oak Street entrance as a
temporary fix to get through the winter while plans/funding is looked into.
March 3, 2010 Mr. Rose will send letters to John Smith and Jim Matthews enclosing the
new demolition policy/forms.
April 1, 2010 Travis Alden - Main Street Training - attended training this past week.
Spoke with Kelly Larsen who is working on the design for the Manistee Variety/Artist Mall
Buildings. This request is unique because it has three street fronts. Asked if the Commission
wanted a preliminary meeting with her since this is the first project in the district. The
Commission agreed they would like to discuss the process and project with her.
May 6, 2010 Mr. Smith is requesting assistance from the Historic District Commission
for the demolition of the West and South Wall of the “Ice House” (438 Water Street). Mr.
Smith intends to meet the demolition guidelines and make a parking area after demolition.
Commission left for a site inspection - Review of the exterior of the structure by the
Commission. It was noted that you could peel portions of the brick that have deteriorated
beyond repair. Discussed how the portion of the building is constructed and the need for
engineering for the removal of the two sections of wall. The Commission determined that the
application for demolition needed the following:
Engineers report on removal.
How will the Southwest Corner be finished where the bricks will be cut and separated
from the remaining structure.
What will the building look like upon completion?
What will the wall be stabilized with?
Drawing of newly exposed West wall showing how it will look after demolition.
Drawing of newly exposed South wall and how it will look after demolition.
Mr. Smith will be sent a copy of the Commissioners requirements.
August 1, 2013 Commission reviewed District, noted concerns about building.
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Planning & Zoning
231.398.2805
Fax 231.723-1546
MEMORANDUM www.manisteemi.gov
To: Historic District Commissioners
From: Denise Blakeslee, Planning & Zoning
Date: August 27, 2012
RE: Appreciation Letters
Commissioners, at the last meeting of the Historic District Commission there was a discussion for sending
letters of appreciation to owners who make improvements to their properties in the Historic District. Staff
has prepared a list of projects from 2010 to date for consideration by the Commission. Signage and minor
projects are not included in the list.
Projects Completed
Sharry Curtis, 141 – 149 Washington - Paint Colors (2010)
Manistee County Library, 95 Maple Street – Retaining Wall (2011)
United Way of Manistee County, 449 River Street – Façade Improvements (2011)
Manistee Council on Aging, 457 River Street – Paint Colors (2011)
James Pawlowski, 395 River Street – Façade Improvements and Paint Colors (2012)
Snyder’s Shoes, 397 River Street – Paint Colors (2012)
Briny Inn, 50 Filer Street – Window Replacement/Paint colors (2012, 2013)
Mike Cnudde, 335 River Street – Façade Improvements/Paint Colors (2012)
Ann & Barry Lind, 384 River Street – Paint Colors (2012)
Rich Mosher, 358 River Street – Paint Colors (2012)
Rich Mosher, 360 River Street – Paint Colors (2012
Edward Reed, 365 River Street – Routine Repair & Maintenance/Paint Colors (2012)
Shari Wild, 431 River Street – Reinstallation of Historic Sign “Gardners” (2012)
Maria DeRee, 389 River Street – Paint Colors (2013)
JSA Maple Street LLC, 81 Maple Street – Routine Repair & Maintenance (Repoint brick & Terra Cotta) 2013
Manistee Historical Society, 425 River Street – Routine Repair & Maintenance/Paint Colors (2013)
Outstanding Projects
Jim Matthews, 334 – 338 River Street – Numerous Permits (2010, 2011, 2012)
Jeff Gordon & Paula Rozmarek, 411 River Street – Numerous Permits (2010, 2011, 2012)
Paula Rozmarek & Jeff Gordon, 347 River Street – Numerous Permits (2010, 2011, 2012)
Vogue Theatre, 381 River Street – Numerous Permits (2011, 2012, 2013)
Briny Inn, 50 Filer Street – Window Replacement/Paint colors (2012, 2013)
Joe Mathewson, 339 River Street – Numerous Permits (2013)
Blue Cow LLC, 312 River Street – Façade Improvements/Paint Colors (2013)
Quarterstone Holdings LLC, 75 Oak Street – Routine Repair & Maintenance/Paint Colors (2013)
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