Muyni
← Back to Manistee

Historic District Commission

Regular Meeting

Manistee, MI · October 10, 2013

AgendaMinutes

Minutes

HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION Council Chambers, City Hall 70 Maple Street Manistee, MI 49660 MEETING MINUTES October 10, 2013 A Meeting of the Manistee City Historic District Commission was held on Thursday, October 10, 2013 at 3:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street, Manistee, Michigan. Meeting was called to order at 3:10 p.m. by Chair Kracht. ROLL CALL: Members Present: Dave Carlson, T. Eftaxiadis, Teena Kracht, John Perschbacher, Mary Russell Members Absent: Jeremy Loveless (excused), Vacancy Others: Mark Fedder (Manistee County Historical Museum) and Denise Blakeslee (Planning & Zoning) APPROVAL OF AGENDA: MOTION by Dave Carlson, seconded by John Perschbacher that the Agenda be approved as prepared. With a voice vote this motion passed UNANIMOUSLY. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by Mary Russell that the Minutes of the September 5, 2013 Meeting be approved as written With a voice vote this motion passed UNANIMOUSLY. NEW BUSINESS: Schedule Meeting Dates 2014 City of Manistee Historic District Commission Meeting Minutes October 10, 2013 Page 1 The Manistee City Historic District Commission generally hold their regular business meetings on the first Thursday of each month. These meetings are held in Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street, Manistee, Michigan at 3:00 pm. Staff has prepared a list of meeting dates for 2014 for the Commissions consideration. MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by Mary Russell that the Historic District Commission schedules their 2014 meetings to be held at 3 pm in the Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street, Manistee, Michigan as follows: January 2, 2014 February 6, 2014 March 6, 2014 April 3, 2014 May 1, 2014 June 5, 2014 July 10, 2014 * August 7, 2014 September 4, 2014 October 2, 2014 November 6, 2014 December 4, 2014 *Changed due to holiday With a voice vote this motion passed UNANIMOUSLY. Property Cards After the Commission reviewed the District in August it was apparent that there had been numerous changes to buildings since the district was established in 2007. In 2008 Property Information cards were prepared for each property in the district with a photo and information from the District Study. The commission reviewed the cards for 312 River Street and 334 River Street that were given as examples. Members of the Commission discussed establishing a master file of property cards that documents and details changes that have been made to buildings in the district. Review draft of new card and discussed adding additional data including Sandborn Map and additional historical information. OLD BUSINESS None PUBLIC COMMENTS AND COMMUNICATIONS CONCERNING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA None CORRESPONDENCE None City of Manistee Historic District Commission Meeting Minutes October 10, 2013 Page 2 STAFF REPORTS Mark Fedder, Museum Director – Issued the following Permits Joe Mathewson, 339 River Street - Certificate of Appropriates for paint colors three front columns to be painted Rustoleum - Raspberry Coca 20075 Issued Permit#PHDC13-028 Manistee Historical Society, 425 River Street – Certificate of Appropriates Patch and Seal Brick on upper portion of building and paint to match existing color. Issued Permit #PHDC13-029 Mark Fedder was contacted by Jim Matthews, 334 River Street regarding the portion of his building on the east side where an existing widow was boarded up and partially covered by the adjacent building (330 River Street) when it was constructed. Mr. Mathews wants to remove the wood and insert brick. Mr. Fedder discussed the request with the commission and asked if it could be handled under Routine Repair and Maintenance. MOTION by T. Eftaxiadis, seconded by Mary Russell that if the applicant were to use brick that was compatible in size, was the correct brick for expansion and co-efficiency, and was painted to match the applicant could replace the wood with brick under an application for Routine Repair and Maintenance. With a roll call vote this motion passed 4 to 0 Yes: Perschbacher, Carlson, Eftaxiadis, Russell, Kracht No: None In the event the applicant did not want to paint the brick they could make a request to the commission. Denise Blakeslee, Planning & Zoning Administrator – Spoke with Jessica Flores, State Historic Preservation Office. Ms. Flores has received the Application to become a Michigan Local Certified Local Government and will begin reviewing the document in October. She reported that Mark Niesen received a call from Jon Smith. Mr. Smith has ordered something to put over the Oak Street windows. He hired an architect that will be getting information to him about the icehouse in the next few weeks. City of Manistee Historic District Commission Meeting Minutes October 10, 2013 Page 3 MEMBERS DISCUSSION None The Next meeting of the Historic District Commission will be on Thursday, November 7, 2013 at 3:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street. ADJOURNMENT: MOTION by Dave Carlson, seconded by John Perschbacher that the meeting be adjourned. Motion passed unanimously. MEETING ADJOURNED AT 3:48 P.M. MANISTEE HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION __________________________________________ Denise J. Blakeslee, Recording Secretary City of Manistee Historic District Commission Meeting Minutes October 10, 2013 Page 4

Agenda

MANISTEE CITY HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION Meeting of Thursday, October 10, 2013 3:00 p.m. - Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street, Manistee, Michigan AGENDA I Call to Order II Roll Call III Approval of Agenda At this time the Historic District Commission can take action to approve the October 10, 2013 Agenda. IV Approval of Minutes At this time Historic District Commission can take action to approve the September 5, 2013 meeting Minutes. V New Business Schedule Meeting Dates 2014 The Manistee City Historic District Commission generally hold their regular business meetings on the first Thursday of each month. These meetings are held in Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street, Manistee Michigan at 3:00 pm. Staff has prepared a list of meeting dates for 2014 for the Commissions consideration. At this time the Historic District Commission could take action to schedule their meeting dates for 2014. Property Cards Members of the Commission will discuss establishing a master file of property cards that documents and details changes that have been made to buildings in the district. VI Old Business VII Public Comments and Communications concerning Items not on the Agenda At this time the Chair will ask if there are any public comments. 1 VIII Correspondence At this time the Chair will ask if any correspondence has been received to be read into the record. IX Reports Museum Curator Museum Director Planning & Zoning Administrator X Members Discussion At this time the Chair will ask members of the Historic District Commission if they have any items they want to discuss. XI Worksession XII Adjournment 2 HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION Council Chambers, City Hall 70 Maple Street Manistee, MI 49660 MEETING MINUTES September 5, 2013 A Meeting of the Manistee City Historic District Commission was held on Thursday, September 5, 2013 at 3:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street, Manistee, Michigan. Meeting was called to order at 3:04 p.m. by Chair Kracht. ROLL CALL: Members Present: Dave Carlson, Maria DeRee, Teena Kracht, John Perschbacher, Mary Russell Members Absent: T. Eftaxiadis (excused), Jeremy Loveless Others: John Smith (435 River Street), Mark Niesen (Building Inspector), Mitch Deisch (City Manager), Travis Alden (Main Street/DDA Director), Mark Fedder (Manistee County Historical Museum) Steve Harold (Manistee County Historical Museum) and Denise Blakeslee (Planning & Zoning) APPROVAL OF AGENDA: MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by Maria DeRee that the Agenda be approved as prepared. With a voice vote this motion unanimously. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by Mary Russell that the Minutes of the August 1, 2013 Meeting be approved as prepared. With a voice vote this motion unanimously. City of Manistee Historic District Commission Meeting Minutes September 5, 2013 Page 1 NEW BUSINESS: John Smith, 435 River Street – Icehouse and Oak Street Entrance The Commission reviewed the district at their August 1, 2013 meeting and expressed concerns about the building at 435 River Street. The Commission previously discussed the condition of the Icehouse and the boarding up of the Oak Street Entrance with the owner. Commissioner Eftaxiadis was unable to attend the meeting but sent an e-mail with his concerns relating to the Icehouse which the commissioners received copies of prior to the meeting (attached). Mr. Smith was sent a letter notifying him that this item was on the September 5, 2013 meeting agenda. Denise Blakeslee - reviewed a timeline of discussions with Mr. Smith from previous meetings and a copy of the Michigan Main Street Design Services recommendation for 435-437 River Street. John Smith (435 River Street) - spoke of the Oak Street entrance and how it will never be used again, he had permission from Steve Harold to remove the entrance, and then the commission was established. Mr. Smith - spoke of the Icehouse and his concern about how it is structurally tied into the adjoining building. He proposed that during demolition a portion of the adjoining wall to the west remain to provide support. Mark Niesen, Building Inspector - said that he would require engineering because of the situation and because it is a commercial building. Mr. Smith - agreed that the west wall needs to be removed. The Commission discussed the concern about the structural integrity of the adjoining building and since engineering is required by the Building Inspector prior to demolition determined that engineering should be done and reviewed by Mark Niesen, Building Inspector; then the demolition request can come to the Commission; Ms. Blakeslee with assist Mr. Smith with the application process. Steve Harold spoke with Mr. Smith about the Oak Street Entrance; Mr. Smith wanted to brick the entrance up and Mr. Harold believed the cost would be similar to proceed with the plan drafted by Kelly Larson, State Historic Architect. Maria DeRee - noted that there may be Façade Grant Funds that could be used for the project. The Commission expressed their concerns about the unsightliness of the tar paper; Mr. Smith agreed City of Manistee Historic District Commission Meeting Minutes September 5, 2013 Page 2 to redo the tar paper and will review the plan and cost for proceeding with the plan drafted by Kelly Larson. Mr. Smith - spoke to the Commission about parking and utility work in the right-of-way. Appreciation Letters The Commission discussed sending letters of appreciation for large projects that have been completed in the district. Chair Kracht will write a note and sign them on behalf of the Commission. Letters will be sent for the following projects: Sharry Curtis, 141 – 149 Washington - Paint Colors (2010) Manistee County Library, 95 Maple Street – Retaining Wall (2011) United Way of Manistee County, 449 River Street – Façade Improvements (2011) Manistee Council on Aging, 457 River Street – Paint Colors (2011) James Pawlowski, 395 River Street – Façade Improvements and Paint Colors (2012) Snyder’s Shoes, 397 River Street – Paint Colors (2012) Briny Inn, 50 Filer Street – Window Replacement/Paint colors (2012, 2013) Mike Cnudde, 335 River Street – Façade Improvements/Paint Colors (2012) Ann & Barry Lind, 384 River Street – Paint Colors (2012) Rich Mosher, 358 River Street – Paint Colors (2012) Rich Mosher, 360 River Street – Paint Colors (2012 Edward Reed, 365 River Street – Routine Repair & Maintenance/Paint Colors (2012) Shari Wild, 431 River Street – Reinstallation of Historic Sign “Gardners” (2012) Maria DeRee, 389 River Street – Paint Colors (2013) JSA Maple Street LLC, 81 Maple Street – Routine Repair & Maintenance (Repoint brick/Terra Cotta) 2013 Manistee Historical Society, 425 River Street – Routine Repair & Maintenance/Paint Colors (2013) OLD BUSINESS None PUBLIC COMMENTS AND COMMUNICATIONS CONCERNING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA None CORRESPONDENCE City of Manistee Historic District Commission Meeting Minutes September 5, 2013 Page 3 Members of the Commission received a copy of an email from Robb McKay, State Historical Architect, SHPO regarding Joe Mathewson’s project at 339 River Street (copy attached). STAFF REPORTS Travis Alden, DDA/Main Street Director – suggested coordinating appreciation letters with the closeout packets for Façade Grants; will be leaving Main Street/DDA end of September to become the Director of the Vogue Theater (renovation completed by November 15th, opening Sleighbell Weekend); spoke of his pleasure working with the Commission; spoke of the success of the façade grant program. Commissioners expressed their appreciation for all the work that Mr. Alden has done and wished him the best of luck in his new position. Mark Fedder, Museum Director - reported to the Commission the permits he has issued this past month: United Way, 449 River Street - Routine Repair and Maintenance (trim work) and Repaint to match existing colors issued permit #PHDC13-023 Mike Duffy/Swankyz, 393 River Street – Paint Colors (Base Color - Behr Butter Yellow ICC-90; Major Trim Colors - Valspar La-Fanda Olive 6006-6B; Minor Trim Color - Behr Deep Evergreen PMD-66). issued permit #PHDC13-024 Vogue Theatre, 381 River Street – Routine Repair & Maintenance and Paint Colors; Remove brick around north and east windows; replace steel piers on both sides; replace steel support beam; remove/replace concrete blocks; replace brick removed around windows to reface north and east portions around windows. Any broken bricks will have to be matched. Contractor will use Guidelines in Preservation Brief 2 Repointing Mortar Joints in Historic Masonry Buildings during the reinstallation process. Paint Color Sherwin Williams Cinnabar SW2714 will be used around round medallions on building as needed. Issued permit #PHDC13-025 Bluefish Kitchen & Bar, 312 River Street - Installation of directional signage for the waterfront. Issued permit #PHDC13-026 Big Fish Outlet, 400 River Street – Installation of 4 wall signs on River Street, 1 Wall Sign on Maple Street, Parking Signage and Window Signage. Waterfront. Issued permit #PHDC13-027 Denise Blakeslee, Planning & Zoning – compiled National Historic Preservation paint samples for the Museum Director. City of Manistee Historic District Commission Meeting Minutes September 5, 2013 Page 4 MEMBERS DISCUSSION Commissioner DeRee handed Chair Kracht a letter of resignation effective October 1, 2013. She said it has been an awesome privilege to work with the Commission. The Commissioners wished her well and spoke of what an asset she has been to the Commission. Commissioner Perschbacher spoke of utility work in the right of way and his experiences with the workmen. The Next meeting of the Historic District Commission was rescheduled to Thursday, October 10, 2013 at 3:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street. ADJOURNMENT: MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by Maria DeRee that the meeting be adjourned. Motion passed unanimously. MEETING ADJOURNED AT 4:20 P.M. MANISTEE HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION __________________________________________ Denise J. Blakeslee, Recording Secretary City of Manistee Historic District Commission Meeting Minutes September 5, 2013 Page 5 City of Manistee Historic District Commission Meeting Minutes September 5, 2013 Page 6 City of Manistee Historic District Commission Meeting Minutes September 5, 2013 Page 7 City of Manistee Historic District Commission Meeting Minutes September 5, 2013 Page 8 MEMORANDUM 231.398.2805 City of Manistee Planning & Zoning Administrator Fax 231.723-1546 dblakeslee@manisteemi.gov www.manisteemi.gov TO: Historic District Commissioners FROM: Denise Blakeslee Planning & Zoning DATE: September 24, 2013 RE: Meeting Dates 2014 Commissioners, we need to look at scheduling meeting dates for 2014. The following are dates recommended by Staff. Please review the dates with your schedule and we will discuss at the October 10, 2013 meeting. January 2, 2014 February 6, 2014 March 6, 2014 April 3, 2014 May 1, 2014 June 5, 2014 July 10, 2014 * August 7, 2014 September 4, 2014 October 2, 2014 November 6, 2014 December 4, 2014 *Changed due to holiday :djb MEMORANDUM 231.398.2805 City of Manistee Planning & Zoning Administrator Fax 231.723-1546 dblakeslee@manisteemi.gov www.manisteemi.gov TO: Historic District Commissioners FROM: Denise Blakeslee Planning & Zoning DATE: September 30, 2013 RE: Property Cards Commissioners, after our review of the District in August it is apparent that there has been numerous changes to buildings since the district was established in 2007. In 2008 Property Information cards were prepared for each property in the district with a photo and information from the District Study. I am enclosing the cards for 312 River Street and 334 River Street as examples. These cards provide a great beginning for us to review, document and detail changes that have been made in the district. I have added this to the agenda for us to discuss. Historic District - Property Information Property Address: 312 River Street Parcel ID#: 51-51-452-704-19 Floor Area: 1st Floor 6,000 sq. ft. 2nd Floor 6,047 sq. ft. Business Information: Name Tuscan’s Second Floor Information: Use Bar & Banquet Business is Owner Occupied Building Information: Date Built: 1894 Description: Late Victorian, Two Story Building, Walls are brick, Roof is Asphalt, Stone Piers at front – pressed metal Turret Historic Information: Contributing Building - Winkler Block - One of the last Victorian Commercial Buildings; today provides a wonderful entrance to the Business District, Distinctive decorative element of the building is the turret at the Southwest corner. Historic District Commission Information: Historic District Commission Action: 3/12/08 – Approval for installing copy to the awnings at Tuscan Grille (West Awning “Tuscan Bakery” Awning over entrance “Le Riv”) NOTE Permit Expired Signs were not installed. Card Last Updated 10/22/08 Historic District - Property Information Property Address: 334, 336, & 338 River Street Parcel ID#: 51-51-452-703-17 Floor Area: 1st Floor 7,256 sq. ft. Business Information: 334 River Street Name Vacant Business Information: 336 River Street Name Vacant Business Information: 338 River Street Name Golden Apple Building Information: Date Built: c 1885 Description: One story building, Walls are brick, Roof is Asphalt Historic Information: Contributing Building Historic Name: Maxted & Newcomb Planing Mill Historic District Commission Information: Historic District Commission Action: 334 River Street 1/3/08 – Approved Window Sign “Saccharos – The Candy Store” aprox 5.5 sq. ft. 2/12/08 – Temporary Sign Approved “Saccharos” 3/6/08 – Approved Window Signage, Awning and painting of window frame “Saccharos” NOTE: Business never opened, no alterations were made to the building. Card Last Updated 10/22/08

Get email alerts for Manistee

A daily email when new agendas and minutes are posted.

Report an issue with this meeting