Historic District Commission
Regular MeetingManistee, MI · October 10, 2013
Minutes
HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
Council Chambers, City Hall
70 Maple Street
Manistee, MI 49660
MEETING MINUTES
October 10, 2013
A Meeting of the Manistee City Historic District Commission was held on Thursday, October 10, 2013 at
3:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street, Manistee, Michigan.
Meeting was called to order at 3:10 p.m. by Chair Kracht.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Dave Carlson, T. Eftaxiadis, Teena Kracht, John Perschbacher, Mary Russell
Members Absent: Jeremy Loveless (excused), Vacancy
Others: Mark Fedder (Manistee County Historical Museum) and Denise Blakeslee
(Planning & Zoning)
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
MOTION by Dave Carlson, seconded by John Perschbacher that the Agenda be approved as prepared.
With a voice vote this motion passed UNANIMOUSLY.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by Mary Russell that the Minutes of the September 5, 2013
Meeting be approved as written
With a voice vote this motion passed UNANIMOUSLY.
NEW BUSINESS:
Schedule Meeting Dates 2014
City of Manistee Historic District Commission
Meeting Minutes October 10, 2013 Page 1
The Manistee City Historic District Commission generally hold their regular business meetings on the
first Thursday of each month. These meetings are held in Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street,
Manistee, Michigan at 3:00 pm. Staff has prepared a list of meeting dates for 2014 for the
Commissions consideration.
MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by Mary Russell that the Historic District Commission
schedules their 2014 meetings to be held at 3 pm in the Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street,
Manistee, Michigan as follows:
January 2, 2014 February 6, 2014 March 6, 2014 April 3, 2014
May 1, 2014 June 5, 2014 July 10, 2014 * August 7, 2014
September 4, 2014 October 2, 2014 November 6, 2014 December 4, 2014
*Changed due to holiday
With a voice vote this motion passed UNANIMOUSLY.
Property Cards
After the Commission reviewed the District in August it was apparent that there had been numerous
changes to buildings since the district was established in 2007. In 2008 Property Information cards
were prepared for each property in the district with a photo and information from the District Study.
The commission reviewed the cards for 312 River Street and 334 River Street that were given as
examples.
Members of the Commission discussed establishing a master file of property cards that documents and
details changes that have been made to buildings in the district. Review draft of new card and
discussed adding additional data including Sandborn Map and additional historical information.
OLD BUSINESS
None
PUBLIC COMMENTS AND COMMUNICATIONS CONCERNING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA
None
CORRESPONDENCE
None
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STAFF REPORTS
Mark Fedder, Museum Director – Issued the following Permits
Joe Mathewson, 339 River Street - Certificate of Appropriates for paint colors three front columns to
be painted Rustoleum - Raspberry Coca 20075 Issued Permit#PHDC13-028
Manistee Historical Society, 425 River Street – Certificate of Appropriates Patch and Seal Brick on
upper portion of building and paint to match existing color. Issued Permit #PHDC13-029
Mark Fedder was contacted by Jim Matthews, 334 River Street regarding the portion of his building on
the east side where an existing widow was boarded up and partially covered by the adjacent building
(330 River Street) when it was constructed. Mr. Mathews wants to remove the wood and insert brick.
Mr. Fedder discussed the request with the commission and asked if it could be handled under Routine
Repair and Maintenance.
MOTION by T. Eftaxiadis, seconded by Mary Russell that if the applicant were to use brick that was
compatible in size, was the correct brick for expansion and co-efficiency, and was painted to match
the applicant could replace the wood with brick under an application for Routine Repair and
Maintenance.
With a roll call vote this motion passed 4 to 0
Yes: Perschbacher, Carlson, Eftaxiadis, Russell, Kracht
No: None
In the event the applicant did not want to paint the brick they could make a request to the
commission.
Denise Blakeslee, Planning & Zoning Administrator – Spoke with Jessica Flores, State Historic
Preservation Office. Ms. Flores has received the Application to become a Michigan Local Certified
Local Government and will begin reviewing the document in October.
She reported that Mark Niesen received a call from Jon Smith. Mr. Smith has ordered something to
put over the Oak Street windows. He hired an architect that will be getting information to him about
the icehouse in the next few weeks.
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MEMBERS DISCUSSION
None
The Next meeting of the Historic District Commission will be on Thursday, November 7, 2013 at 3:00
p.m. in the Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION by Dave Carlson, seconded by John Perschbacher that the meeting be adjourned. Motion
passed unanimously.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 3:48 P.M.
MANISTEE HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
__________________________________________
Denise J. Blakeslee, Recording Secretary
City of Manistee Historic District Commission
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Agenda
MANISTEE CITY HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
Meeting of Thursday, October 10, 2013
3:00 p.m. - Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street,
Manistee, Michigan
AGENDA
I Call to Order
II Roll Call
III Approval of Agenda
At this time the Historic District Commission can take action to approve the October 10, 2013
Agenda.
IV Approval of Minutes
At this time Historic District Commission can take action to approve the September 5, 2013
meeting Minutes.
V New Business
Schedule Meeting Dates 2014
The Manistee City Historic District Commission generally hold their regular business meetings on
the first Thursday of each month. These meetings are held in Council Chambers, City Hall, 70
Maple Street, Manistee Michigan at 3:00 pm. Staff has prepared a list of meeting dates for
2014 for the Commissions consideration.
At this time the Historic District Commission could take action to schedule their meeting dates for
2014.
Property Cards
Members of the Commission will discuss establishing a master file of property cards that
documents and details changes that have been made to buildings in the district.
VI Old Business
VII Public Comments and Communications concerning Items not on the Agenda
At this time the Chair will ask if there are any public comments.
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VIII Correspondence
At this time the Chair will ask if any correspondence has been received to be read into the
record.
IX Reports
Museum Curator
Museum Director
Planning & Zoning Administrator
X Members Discussion
At this time the Chair will ask members of the Historic District Commission if they have any
items they want to discuss.
XI Worksession
XII Adjournment
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HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
Council Chambers, City Hall
70 Maple Street
Manistee, MI 49660
MEETING MINUTES
September 5, 2013
A Meeting of the Manistee City Historic District Commission was held on Thursday, September 5, 2013
at 3:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street, Manistee, Michigan.
Meeting was called to order at 3:04 p.m. by Chair Kracht.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Dave Carlson, Maria DeRee, Teena Kracht, John Perschbacher, Mary Russell
Members Absent: T. Eftaxiadis (excused), Jeremy Loveless
Others: John Smith (435 River Street), Mark Niesen (Building Inspector), Mitch Deisch
(City Manager), Travis Alden (Main Street/DDA Director), Mark Fedder (Manistee
County Historical Museum) Steve Harold (Manistee County Historical Museum)
and Denise Blakeslee (Planning & Zoning)
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by Maria DeRee that the Agenda be approved as prepared.
With a voice vote this motion unanimously.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by Mary Russell that the Minutes of the August 1, 2013
Meeting be approved as prepared.
With a voice vote this motion unanimously.
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NEW BUSINESS:
John Smith, 435 River Street – Icehouse and Oak Street Entrance
The Commission reviewed the district at their August 1, 2013 meeting and expressed concerns about
the building at 435 River Street. The Commission previously discussed the condition of the Icehouse
and the boarding up of the Oak Street Entrance with the owner. Commissioner Eftaxiadis was unable
to attend the meeting but sent an e-mail with his concerns relating to the Icehouse which the
commissioners received copies of prior to the meeting (attached). Mr. Smith was sent a letter
notifying him that this item was on the September 5, 2013 meeting agenda.
Denise Blakeslee - reviewed a timeline of discussions with Mr. Smith from previous meetings and a
copy of the Michigan Main Street Design Services recommendation for 435-437 River Street.
John Smith (435 River Street) - spoke of the Oak Street entrance and how it will never be used again,
he had permission from Steve Harold to remove the entrance, and then the commission was
established.
Mr. Smith - spoke of the Icehouse and his concern about how it is structurally tied into the adjoining
building. He proposed that during demolition a portion of the adjoining wall to the west remain to
provide support.
Mark Niesen, Building Inspector - said that he would require engineering because of the situation and
because it is a commercial building.
Mr. Smith - agreed that the west wall needs to be removed.
The Commission discussed the concern about the structural integrity of the adjoining building and
since engineering is required by the Building Inspector prior to demolition determined that engineering
should be done and reviewed by Mark Niesen, Building Inspector; then the demolition request can
come to the Commission; Ms. Blakeslee with assist Mr. Smith with the application process.
Steve Harold spoke with Mr. Smith about the Oak Street Entrance; Mr. Smith wanted to brick the
entrance up and Mr. Harold believed the cost would be similar to proceed with the plan drafted by
Kelly Larson, State Historic Architect.
Maria DeRee - noted that there may be Façade Grant Funds that could be used for the project.
The Commission expressed their concerns about the unsightliness of the tar paper; Mr. Smith agreed
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to redo the tar paper and will review the plan and cost for proceeding with the plan drafted by Kelly
Larson.
Mr. Smith - spoke to the Commission about parking and utility work in the right-of-way.
Appreciation Letters
The Commission discussed sending letters of appreciation for large projects that have been completed
in the district. Chair Kracht will write a note and sign them on behalf of the Commission. Letters will
be sent for the following projects:
Sharry Curtis, 141 – 149 Washington - Paint Colors (2010)
Manistee County Library, 95 Maple Street – Retaining Wall (2011)
United Way of Manistee County, 449 River Street – Façade Improvements (2011)
Manistee Council on Aging, 457 River Street – Paint Colors (2011)
James Pawlowski, 395 River Street – Façade Improvements and Paint Colors (2012)
Snyder’s Shoes, 397 River Street – Paint Colors (2012)
Briny Inn, 50 Filer Street – Window Replacement/Paint colors (2012, 2013)
Mike Cnudde, 335 River Street – Façade Improvements/Paint Colors (2012)
Ann & Barry Lind, 384 River Street – Paint Colors (2012)
Rich Mosher, 358 River Street – Paint Colors (2012)
Rich Mosher, 360 River Street – Paint Colors (2012
Edward Reed, 365 River Street – Routine Repair & Maintenance/Paint Colors (2012)
Shari Wild, 431 River Street – Reinstallation of Historic Sign “Gardners” (2012)
Maria DeRee, 389 River Street – Paint Colors (2013)
JSA Maple Street LLC, 81 Maple Street – Routine Repair & Maintenance (Repoint brick/Terra Cotta)
2013
Manistee Historical Society, 425 River Street – Routine Repair & Maintenance/Paint Colors (2013)
OLD BUSINESS
None
PUBLIC COMMENTS AND COMMUNICATIONS CONCERNING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA
None
CORRESPONDENCE
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Members of the Commission received a copy of an email from Robb McKay, State Historical Architect,
SHPO regarding Joe Mathewson’s project at 339 River Street (copy attached).
STAFF REPORTS
Travis Alden, DDA/Main Street Director – suggested coordinating appreciation letters with the
closeout packets for Façade Grants; will be leaving Main Street/DDA end of September to become the
Director of the Vogue Theater (renovation completed by November 15th, opening Sleighbell Weekend);
spoke of his pleasure working with the Commission; spoke of the success of the façade grant program.
Commissioners expressed their appreciation for all the work that Mr. Alden has done and wished him
the best of luck in his new position.
Mark Fedder, Museum Director - reported to the Commission the permits he has issued this past
month:
United Way, 449 River Street - Routine Repair and Maintenance (trim work) and Repaint to match
existing colors issued permit #PHDC13-023
Mike Duffy/Swankyz, 393 River Street – Paint Colors (Base Color - Behr Butter Yellow ICC-90; Major
Trim Colors - Valspar La-Fanda Olive 6006-6B; Minor Trim Color - Behr Deep Evergreen PMD-66).
issued permit #PHDC13-024
Vogue Theatre, 381 River Street – Routine Repair & Maintenance and Paint Colors; Remove brick
around north and east windows; replace steel piers on both sides; replace steel support beam;
remove/replace concrete blocks; replace brick removed around windows to reface north and east
portions around windows. Any broken bricks will have to be matched. Contractor will use Guidelines
in Preservation Brief 2 Repointing Mortar Joints in Historic Masonry Buildings during the reinstallation
process. Paint Color Sherwin Williams Cinnabar SW2714 will be used around round medallions on
building as needed. Issued permit #PHDC13-025
Bluefish Kitchen & Bar, 312 River Street - Installation of directional signage for the waterfront. Issued
permit #PHDC13-026
Big Fish Outlet, 400 River Street – Installation of 4 wall signs on River Street, 1 Wall Sign on Maple
Street, Parking Signage and Window Signage. Waterfront. Issued permit #PHDC13-027
Denise Blakeslee, Planning & Zoning – compiled National Historic Preservation paint samples for the
Museum Director.
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MEMBERS DISCUSSION
Commissioner DeRee handed Chair Kracht a letter of resignation effective October 1, 2013. She said it
has been an awesome privilege to work with the Commission.
The Commissioners wished her well and spoke of what an asset she has been to the Commission.
Commissioner Perschbacher spoke of utility work in the right of way and his experiences with the
workmen.
The Next meeting of the Historic District Commission was rescheduled to Thursday, October 10, 2013
at 3:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street.
ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION by John Perschbacher, seconded by Maria DeRee that the meeting be adjourned. Motion
passed unanimously.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 4:20 P.M.
MANISTEE HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
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Denise J. Blakeslee, Recording Secretary
City of Manistee Historic District Commission
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MEMORANDUM
231.398.2805
City of Manistee Planning & Zoning Administrator Fax 231.723-1546
dblakeslee@manisteemi.gov
www.manisteemi.gov
TO: Historic District Commissioners
FROM: Denise Blakeslee
Planning & Zoning
DATE: September 24, 2013
RE: Meeting Dates 2014
Commissioners, we need to look at scheduling meeting dates for 2014. The following are dates
recommended by Staff. Please review the dates with your schedule and we will discuss at the
October 10, 2013 meeting.
January 2, 2014 February 6, 2014 March 6, 2014 April 3, 2014
May 1, 2014 June 5, 2014 July 10, 2014 * August 7, 2014
September 4, 2014 October 2, 2014 November 6, 2014 December 4, 2014
*Changed due to holiday
:djb
MEMORANDUM
231.398.2805
City of Manistee Planning & Zoning Administrator Fax 231.723-1546
dblakeslee@manisteemi.gov
www.manisteemi.gov
TO: Historic District Commissioners
FROM: Denise Blakeslee
Planning & Zoning
DATE: September 30, 2013
RE: Property Cards
Commissioners, after our review of the District in August it is apparent that there has been
numerous changes to buildings since the district was established in 2007.
In 2008 Property Information cards were prepared for each property in the district with a photo
and information from the District Study. I am enclosing the cards for 312 River Street and 334
River Street as examples. These cards provide a great beginning for us to review, document
and detail changes that have been made in the district.
I have added this to the agenda for us to discuss.
Historic District - Property Information
Property Address: 312 River Street
Parcel ID#: 51-51-452-704-19
Floor Area:
1st Floor 6,000 sq. ft.
2nd Floor 6,047 sq. ft.
Business Information:
Name Tuscan’s
Second Floor Information:
Use Bar & Banquet
Business is Owner Occupied
Building Information:
Date Built: 1894
Description: Late Victorian, Two Story Building, Walls are brick, Roof is Asphalt,
Stone Piers at front – pressed metal Turret
Historic Information: Contributing Building - Winkler Block - One of the last Victorian
Commercial Buildings; today provides a wonderful entrance to the Business District, Distinctive
decorative element of the building is the turret at the Southwest corner.
Historic District Commission Information:
Historic District Commission Action:
3/12/08 – Approval for installing copy to the awnings at Tuscan Grille (West Awning “Tuscan
Bakery” Awning over entrance “Le Riv”) NOTE Permit Expired Signs were not installed.
Card Last Updated 10/22/08
Historic District - Property Information
Property Address: 334, 336, & 338 River Street
Parcel ID#: 51-51-452-703-17
Floor Area:
1st Floor 7,256 sq. ft.
Business Information: 334 River Street
Name Vacant
Business Information: 336 River Street
Name Vacant
Business Information: 338 River Street
Name Golden Apple
Building Information:
Date Built: c 1885
Description: One story building, Walls are brick, Roof is Asphalt
Historic Information: Contributing Building Historic Name: Maxted & Newcomb Planing Mill
Historic District Commission Information:
Historic District Commission Action:
334 River Street
1/3/08 – Approved Window Sign “Saccharos – The Candy Store” aprox 5.5 sq. ft.
2/12/08 – Temporary Sign Approved “Saccharos”
3/6/08 – Approved Window Signage, Awning and painting of window frame “Saccharos”
NOTE: Business never opened, no alterations were made to the building.
Card Last Updated 10/22/08
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