Historic District Commission
Regular MeetingManistee, MI · July 27, 2021
Minutes
HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMITTEE
70 Maple Street
Manistee, MI 49660
SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES
July 27, 2021
A Special Meeting of the 2021 Historic District Committee was held on Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at
4:00 pm in the Council Chambers, City Hall, 70 Maple Street, Manistee, Michigan.
The meeting was called to order at 4:00 by Lee Trucks.
Members Present: William Connor, Dennis Otto, Ron Helmboldt, and Lee Trucks
Members Absent: Shelly Memberto, Thad Taylor, and Nickolas Hawkins
Others: Zach Sompels (City Zoning), and Nancy Baker (Recording Secretary)
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION by Commissioner Connor, seconded by Commissioner Otto to approve the agenda as
printed.
With a voice vote motion passed 4 to 0.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MOTION by Commissioner Connor, seconded by Commissioner Otto to approve the July 7,
2021 Meeting minutes.
With a voice vote motion passed 4 to 0.
PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA RELATED ITEMS
None
NEW BUSINESS
Jeff Gordon 411 River
Mr. Sompels reached out to Mr. Gordon. He made no return contact.
Per the judge’s ruling, Mr. Gordon has until Labor Day 2022 to complete the project.
Mr. Gordon must apply for a new COA permit.
MOTION by Commissioner Helmboldt, seconded by Commissioner Otto to approve issuing a
new COA for 411 River.
Roll call vote was taken: Yes; Connor, Helmboldt, Trucks, Otto. No; none
Motion passed 4 to 0.
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Jeff Gordon 347/349 River
Per the judge’s ruling, Mr. Gordon has until Labor Day 2022 to complete the project.
Mr. Gordon must apply for a new COA permit.
MOTION by Commissioner Helmboldt, seconded by Commissioner Otto to approve issuing a
new COA for 347/349 River.
Roll call vote was taken: Yes; Connor, Helmboldt, Trucks, Otto. No; none
Motion passed 4 to 0.
OLD BUSINESS
None
PUBLIC COMMENTS AND COMMUNICATIONS CONCERNING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA
None
REPORTS
DDA Executive & Economic Development Director: no report
Museum Curator/Director: no report
Planning & Zoning Administrator: Mural update; looked at other historic district mural
languages, they are allowed in historic districts provided a mural was in place in the past and
the replacement mural matches this mural, language details will be discussed at the next
meeting, the Tribe has expressed an interest.
Permit report: permit updating will be generated manually into the permit listing sheet. The
system still will not allow the ability to generate the information.
MEMBERS DISCUSSION
Mr. Trucks and Mr. Fedder met with Lisa Rosmarek. She relayed suggestions on how to handle
certain situations the historic district has experienced and may experience in the future. One
suggestion is to apply fines. Her suggestions will be shared.
Mr. Sompels stated the ability to fine or apply additional extension fees would have to be
placed into the Bylaws with City Council approving any amendments before the HDC can
enforce fees/fines.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned by call of the chair at 4:21 pm
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Nancy Baker, Recording Secretary
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Agenda
MANISTEE CITY HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
Special Meeting of Wednesday, July 27th, 2021
This meeting will be held in the City Council Chambers.
AGENDA
I Call to Order
II Roll Call
III Approval of Agenda
At this time, the Historic District Commission can take action to approve the July 27, 2021, Agenda.
IV Approval of Minutes
At this time Historic District Commission can take action to approve the July 7, 2021, Meeting Minutes.
V Public Comment on Agenda Related items
At this time, the Chair will ask if there are any public comments.
VI New Business
• Jeff Gordon 411 River St
• Jeff Gordon 347/349 River St
VII Old Business
Permit Review
VIII Public Comments and Communications concerning items not on the agenda.
At this time, the Chair will ask if there are any public comments.
IX Correspondence
X Reports
DDA Executive & Economic Development Director
Museum Curator
Museum Director
Planning & Zoning Administrator
XI Members Discussion
At this time, the Chair will ask members of the Historic District Commission if they have any items they
want to discuss.
XII Adjournment
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HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
70 Maple Street
Manistee, MI 49660
MEETING MINUTES
July 7, 2021
A meeting of the 2021 Historic District Commission was held on Wednesday, July 7, 2021 at
4:00 pm, Manistee, Michigan.
The meeting was called to order at 4:01 by Chair Trucks.
Members Present: Shelly Memberto, William Connor, Ron Helmboldt, Dennis Otto, Thad
Taylor, and Lee Trucks
Members Absent: Nick Hawkins
Others: Zach Sompels (City Zoning /Planner 1), and Nancy Baker (Recording
Secretary)
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION by Commissioner Taylor, seconded by Commissioner Connor to approve the agenda as
printed. Motion passed with a voice vote.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MOTION by Commissioner Otto, seconded by Commissioner Helmboldt to approve the June 29,
2021 Special Meeting Minutes as presented. Motion passed with a voice vote.
PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA RELATED ITEMS
None
NEW BUSINESS
Jeff Gordon, 411 River
Mr. Sompels stated Mr. Gordon has received COA’s in the past with multiple extensions.
Mr. Gordon comments:
• Returning façade to original window/door sizing and look
• Corbels were made to match old existing style
• Reconstructing the framework
• Replaced upper arch windows and rebuilt ledge
• Timeframe: framing to be completed by Summer 2021, entrance by Spring 2022
Ms. Memberto entered the room at 4:09 pm.
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HDC comments for 411 River:
COA’s are good for a year
Mr. Gordon’s project has been ongoing for 15 years
Mr. Gordon’s COA has not been completed in 15 years
Inside is not part of COA
Applicant informed the HDC, year before Covid, this project would be complete
Blight has been issued for the building
Contact will be made to the city attorney to be sure if COA is issued there will be no conflict
with the blight
MOTION by Commissioner Taylor, seconded by Commissioner Helmboldt to table this until the
next meeting pending the response from the city attorney/city police regarding the blight and
reviews.
Commissioner Taylor amended his motion.
MOTION by Commissioner Taylor, seconded by Commissioner Helmboldt to table this until the
next meeting, or until a special meeting needs to occur after a court decision is made.
Mr. Fedder stated the museum has been working with Mr. Gordon since the beginning of the
project. Some of the project has been accomplished. When completed it will be one of the best-
preserved store fronts on River Street. The issue is the time frame of completing the project.
Many complaints have come in regarding this unfinished project.
Chair Trucks stated the HDC does not, and has not, objected to the plan but rather the long
length of time the project has taken and is still not completed.
Motion was reread.
Motion passed with a voice vote.
Jeff Gordon, 347/349 River
Mr. Gordon reviewed the project’s details that have been completed to this point. Everything
on the store fronts will match the original look. The current working process is to start at the
top of the buildings and work his way down the building. Building permits for the inside work
are through the State and will be inspected by the State.
Mr. Sompels will contact the city building inspector to confirm the State is doing the
inspections.
Mr. Gordon confirmed his buildings are in blight.
Chair Trucks stated the previous HDC, 411 River, comments apply to this project.
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MOTION by Commissioner Taylor, seconded by Commissioner Connor, the 411 River Street
motion be the same for 347/349 River Street, to table this until the next meeting, or until a
special meeting needs to occur after a court decision is made.
Motion passed with a voice vote.
OLD BUSINESS
None
Permit Review
Mr. Sompels stated the system still will not enable him to get into the program to generate the
permit information into a list.
COMMENTS AND COMMUNICATIONS CONCERNING ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA
None
CORRESPONDENCE
None
REPORTS
DDA Executive & Economic Development
No one in attendance to submit a report.
Museum Curator/Director
None
Planning & Zoning Administrator
Mr. Sompels welcomed Mr. Taylor to the HDC. He supplied HDC Guideline tools for all the members, as
a reference, for any possible future items.
MEMBERS DISCUSSION
Commissioner Connor inquired on what would occur if the COA is not approved for the River
Street situation or any future situations that may occur with this type of issue. It is understood
the HDC does not have the authority to deny a COA application if it meets HDC application
requirements. He inquired if the blight process requires a project to be completed by a certain
timeframe.
Mr. Sompels stated tabling the River Street situations is fair however, if an application is
completed the HDC may not have an option except to approve the COA. Work cannot
commence on a project until the proper permits have been issued. The HDC will be contacted
once the city attorney informs the department of the outcome for the River Street COA’s. HDC
has authority for the façade of buildings within the Historic District and any buildings outlined
on the Historic Register.
Commissioner Memberto would like to see the project move forward and not be stalled.
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Mr. Sompels stated Mr. Mathenson has been contacted regarding the outcome of the meeting
regarding the window situation at 435 River.
Discussion ensued with the following comments.
Per Lisa Rozmarek Historic Consultant, a violation on a building can be attached to the
building by the present owner or any new owners.
A COA must be in place to receive a building permit.
A violation can be connected to a building with a new owner having to address the violation
issues before any new improvements/changes can be done on a building
The ability for HDC to avoid any future issues, such as the situations currently at hand
The length a project can go on before being required to be completed and the HDC having
the authority to move a project forward within a timeframe
Language that allows the HDC to state a citation goes with a building/property and the
possible fining for such situations
Concerns were raised with possible new buyers being deterred due to a nearby building
having COA or blight issues
Impact on residents/visitors looking at the buildings in the blight/unfinished condition
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Commissioner Connor, seconded by Commissioner Memberto to adjourn the
meeting.
The meeting was adjourned at 4:54 pm.
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Nancy Baker, Recording Secretary
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