City Council
Regular MeetingMantorville, MN · January 25, 2016
Agenda
MANTORVILLE CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES
MONDAY, JANUARY 25, 2016
6:30 PM
1. Call to Order – Mayor Bradford called the meeting to order at 6:30 pm.
Members Present: Chuck Bradford, Henry Blair, Sherry Roth, and Don Hofstad.
Others Present: Jay Kruger - CMS, Gretta Becay, Mark and Nancy Schmidt, Gary Bromley, Dan and
Jone Trapp, Sheldon and Ramona Torkelson, Jeff Mehnke, Ann and Mark Torkelson, Bill Glawe,
Karen Steele, Mike Marti, Melissa Manderschied – City Attorney, Joe Adams, Scott Larsen, Patti
Chilson and Cami Reber.
2. Pledge of Allegiance - Done
3. Additions/Deletions to Agenda –
Addition of 7. f - Review of City ordinance.
4. Consent Agenda – Motion made by Member Hofstad, second by Member Roth to approve the
consent agenda as follows:
a) City Council Meeting Minute’s January 11, 2016
b) Warrant List January 25. 2016
c) Dodge County Board of Commissioner’s Meeting Agenda January 26, 2016
d) SEMLM Annual Meeting Notice – Reminder
Motion passed unanimously.
5. Public Concerns – Gary Bromley – 13 Zumbro Ridge Drive – noted inconsistencies and false
statements in the response information submitted by the Torkelson’s included in the City Council
packet. He provided copies of his written response to the Council Members and spoke to the
Council summarizing it. He emphasized that the matter of the Torkelson building is not restricted
to just Dan and Jone Trapp but affects all of the surrounding neighbors. Why is there so much
emphasis in pleasing the Torkelson’s with no regard to the 20 neighbors? A building of this
magnitude pleases only the owner. It is a horrendously oversized building which does not fit in an
R-1 situation. No architectural drawings have been submitted still. This is part of the
requirement when you apply at the City and still has been ignored. The conceptual, aerial and
other drawings do not meet the requirements. The drawing submitted do not have offsets,
elevations or dimensions as required. He has drafting experience and none of these drawings is
acceptable, accurate, or to scale. Without those drawings, the actual size and height of the
building is limitless. They got exactly what they asked for previously and it will accommodate
their needs. He noted having the same type of heaters and equipment in his current shop (at 10’)
and home garage (at 8’) and has never encountered any clearance problems.
He commented on the enormous amount of noise that was generated last fall from dawn until
dusk including weekends. No considerations from the Torkelson’s. Commented on the sale of 29
Zumbro Ridge Drive; the sale occurred after the Torkelson’s home was built and they never
endured the noise throughout the summer. In addition, to the letter from the realtor that the
Torkelson’s supplied, the realtor is not an appraiser and her opinion does not count. The new
owners will not be looking at an oversized accessory building either. Further comments included
screening the building, the berm and it not being maintained, not mowed and stops the natural
flow of water causing a virtual lake on the Trapps property, which can cause damage to the septic
system. Encourages the Council Members to deny the request.
6. Public Hearing - none
7. Old Business/New Business
a) Tabled Variance Request Mark and Ann Torkelson
City Attorney Melissa Manderschied gave a timeline of the events up to date for the recent
variance request. The City formally extended the 60 day timeline to February 22, 2016. The
City sent the applicants a letter reminding them if they so choose to submit more information
regarding the variance request. That information is submitted and in the packet.
Mayor Bradford asked if anyone wanted to make any additional comments based on the new
information submitted to the City or the letters that have been published.
Jay Kruger – Construction Management Services, Building Inspector for the City of
Mantorville, asked the attorney to explain the hardship aspect as it pertains to being granted
a variance. In his opinion, hardship pertains to the land. City Attorney Melissa
Manderschied explained the rules for hardship and the findings the City must find in favor of
in order to find in favor of the variance.
Jay Kruger responded that he reviewed the information the Torkelson’s submitted and how
it relates to the building code. The building code does not mandate the size of building that is
being requested. It is their choice to build a building that size with that scope of sidewalls.
The only hardship and uniqueness to this property in question is the style and design of the
building that is being picked to put on the property. It has nothing to do with use of the land.
Ann Torkelson spoke that what this is about is about trying to build a building, that is the
style, which others have opinions on it, but the lay of this particular piece of land, the
elevation, and the grade that is associated with it, doesn’t allow the positioning to be able to
pull equipment in and out. They recognize that the building code pieces are a moot point and
that is in context of trying to build a gable roof structure, which they believe is in the best
interest of the neighborhood. They feel it allows them to build a structure that is most fitting
in the surrounding and similar to other structures in the area – a gable roof structure. We
can build a building within the 18’, but it will result in a flat roof structure. They want to be
able to build a structure now that meets their needs now and into the future. They are
limited by this one accessory structure on the property.
Jay Kruger responded that in his opinion and doing what he has done for 28 years and also as
a zoning administrator for many years, there is reasonable use of the land allowed as it sits
right there.
Nancy Schmidt commented that they have 6 acres to build whatever they want on within the
confines of the variance that they were already given and that a 28’ structure in an R-1 zone,
this isn’t rural and it’s not industrial. Why are the Torkelson’s qualified to say what fits the
local surroundings. They want it to look good on their side, from their view, the
neighborhood will still see the back and the side of a plain old metal pole shed. She
questioned the cupolas and it was verified by the attorney that cupolas are an exception to
the height restrictions per City Code 150.022.
Ann Torkelson responded stating that they do require 14’ doors for current and future
needs. The large building is driven by the need that one half of the space will be driven by
personal use. They have reviewed the ordinances and 150.069 talks about what is allowed in
an R-1 zone. It does outline that up to 35’ is something that is acceptable and this structure
is below that limit. This is contentious and they would not subject themselves to this if they
didn’t truly believe that it was the best option. They can proceed with a building with a flat
roof structure if that’s the position that they get put in. They don’t believe that that is what
anyone would want in the end. They believe the gable roof structure is the best option and
fits in best for the residential setting.
City Attorney Melissa Manderscheid and Mayor Bradford clarified that the height limit for
accessory buildings in listed in 150.025 and that 150.069 refers to the primary structure.
Jone Trapp spoke that she doesn’t like the building, doesn’t want any building like that in her
yard, it is in her yard, not theirs. Notes in the application it is stated twice that MN Building
Code drove this building to be the way they want. That’s a false statement. Jay Kruger
verified that. Commented that the berm is construction and done without a permit.
Gary Bromley commented and questioned if this is such a beautiful building why is the house
situated with a berm between them so they cannot see this building. Appalled at the thought
that they can suggest what we want and need after being there so many years and it is
completely disrupted for one family’s pleasure.
Nancy Schmidt commented to please do the right thing, please deny this request.
Motion made by Member Blair, second by Member Hofstad to pull from the table the request
for the variance. Motion passed unanimously.
Member Blair – pointed out his starting point for this has nothing to do with anything
personally involved except a personal right to, personal property right is where he defaults
to, and being limited by the Code and variance stuff. Generally he likes to default to the
personal property rights. The character of the area was pretty rural with the corn that grew
there. Perhaps the zoning was wrong there with it being R-1; the way the zoning is laid out
generally seems erroneous but defaulting to that is the point for variance’s where the zoning
and rules don’t necessarily fit future plans and where things change. From a personal
property rights standard, I tend to lean towards the variances being approved as a rule until
it is injurious as such and I think there is a good case made here with the selling of the house
in the neighborhood, which I cannot believe that construction size went completely
unnoticed and the discussion never came up, it is possible, but whatever an appraiser said
before such time as that property sold, after the property sells is a lot bigger indication that
somebody’s opinion of what exactly will happen or what they think is going to happen, so
there’s a pretty strong case there as to how that is probably not as injurious as people have
eluded to.
Member Hofstad– tries to take things in perspective, is a licensed plumber, whenever he does
drawings for someone, he has to have everything to scale, to meet code, and get it approved.
Needs to get everything written down and documented before it gets approved. Thinks that
Mr. Kruger has made a fair statement as far as to where the code is and what the code is not.
What people want, what people need, and what people think is irrelevant. There is going to
be a different opinion on everybody’s take. I don’t think that some of the facts that we are
looking for and things to ok this, in his opinion, are there. I’m not satisfied with what I’ve
heard, I can’t say one way or the other. I have to go by what the peoples decisions are as far
as what they do for a living, what they get paid for that are beyond me. I’m just a plumber
but there are people that get paid to make decisions to help us out with the code and things
of that nature.
Member Roth – is visual and is yet to see anything that will help her to see and understand
how the structure will fit into the community; it would help her to better make a decision.
Mr. Kruger’s questions have alerted her to better understand the zoning and the changes
with zoning and make sure we are meeting the requirements. Doesn’t feel comfortable to try
and make a decision at this point. I don’t feel like I fully understand how these zoning
changes affect our decision. Would like to take some time to review the things presented
tonight. Would like some visuals and feels that the missing council member needs to be
present.
Mayor Bradford – wants to take some time to review both documents a little more, see if
there is something brought up that he hasn’t considered before. Inclined to entertain a
motion to retable to the February 8 meeting. There is merit to have a full Council.
Attorney Melissa Manderschied noted timing consideration. Asked what other sorts of
information the council would like so they are comfortable in making a decision at the next
meeting. Member Roth noted more to scale documents will help also, she wants to view
other sizes of buildings in the area. February 22 is the date that action needs to be taken by
the City Council and the action delivered to the applicant. Council continued discussion on
timelines and when things need to happen.
Motion made by Member Roth, second by Member Blair to table until February 8, 2016.
Member Hofstad noted the importance of having all 5 members and peoples strong feelings
the last time with only having 4 present. Motion passed unanimously. Mayor Bradford noted
to be prepared to give staff direction on which way they want to proceed with. The Mayor
instructed the attorney to put together a draft non approval resolution for the meeting. We
already have an approval draft resolution prepared. Jay Kruger also noted that he would be
available for any further questions from anyone.
b) Sheriff Scott Rose 2016 Law Enforcement Contract & Memorandum of Understanding
Sheriff Scott Rose introduced himself to the Council and he spoke of the Next Generation 911
System coming in next year and the weapons screening which is going to start in another
week. They are looking at a 2.5% budget rate increase next year across the board noting that
they kept things the same for 2016. Motion made by Member Roth to approve the 2016
Sheriffs contract. A second and friendly amendment by Member Blair requesting the date
change in the document from 2015-2016. Motion passed unanimously.
Motion made by Member Blair, second by Member Hofstad to approve the Memorandum of
Understanding document. Motion passed unanimously.
c) WWTP Flow Meter
Motion made by Member Blair, second by Member Roth to allow the purchase of up to
$4,700 for a new flow meter at the WWTP if the old one can’t be fixed. Motion passed
unanimously.
d) City Garbage Service
Motion made by Member Roth, second by Member Blair to table this discussion. There are
some discrepancies in the numbers received that need to be verified.
e) Public Works Equipment Request
Scott discussed with the Council the request for the purchase of equipment for the
Maintenance Department. Motion made by Member Blair, second by Member Hofstad to
approve the purchase of the new 926M wheel loader on a 5 year even payment lease with
the trade in of the grader at $166,950. The lease payment will be split between the
Maintenance Department line item and the other half from CIP. We have been saving up for
this a long time. Motion passed unanimously.
f) Update and Review of City Ordinance
Melissa spoke to the Council about the need to sink up the current Variance code with the
State Variance law. Specifically section 150.111 and 31.38 F of the City Code. Motion made
by Member Roth, second by Member Blair to direct the City Legal Consultants to line up our
ordinance to match State Statute as they are recommending. Melissa should bring those
changes to the meeting on the 8th to begin discussion. Council discussed more housekeeping
cleanup of the rest of the zoning code which needs to be done. This will start getting pulled
together.
8. TBD
a) Public Works Report – Scott Larsen asked about plans on the two wheel drive pickup?
Member Blair noted to make it through the spring and look at it later due to the projects that
are coming up this year.
b) City Clerk Report – Cami asked for Council approval to send Scott to WW training and to
take his collection system license. Motion made by Member Hofstad, second by Member
Roth to approve the training for Scott. Motion passed unanimously.
c) Consultant Report – none
d) Committee Report - none
e) Council Member Report - none
f) Mayor Report –Mayor Bradford reported that the EDA is still looking for new
commissioners, he spoke about the 2016 SCD Celebration and the new way they are planning
to try and pull it together. He will be attending Mayor Carlson’s event coming up and
updated the Council Members on the MN Governers preliminary budget and money being
allocated for Infrastructure projects.
9. Executive Session
Motion made by Member Blair, second by Member Hofstad to close the regular session and go into
executive session at 8:21 pm for staff evaluations. All City Staff requested that their evaluations
be completed in closed session. Motion passed unanimously.
Motion made by Member Roth, second by Member Blair to close the executive session and go back
into open session at 8:47 pm. Motion passed unanimously.
a) Staff Evaluations
The City Council completed the 2015 staff evaluations on Patti Chilson, Scott Larsen and
Cami Reber. Motion made by Member Blair, second by Member Roth to approve a 4% wage
increase retro back to January 1, 2016 for all three. Motion passed unanimously.
10. Adjourn – Motion made by Member Hofstad, second by Member Blair to adjourn at 8:49 pm.
Motion passed unanimously.
Attest:
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City Clerk Treasurer Camille C. Reber
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