Planning Commission
Regular MeetingMaple Grove, MN · February 24, 2020
Minutes
MAPLE GROVE
PLANNING COMMISSION
February 24, 2020
CALL TO ORDER A meeting of the Maple Grove Planning Commission was held at
7:00 p.m. on February 24, 2020 at the Maple Grove City Hall,
Hennepin County, Minnesota. Vice- Chair Ayika called the meeting
to order at 7:00 p.m.
PLEDGE OF
ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL Planning Commission members present were Vice- Chair Chris
Ayika, Lorie Klein, Craig Lamothe, Chuck Lenthe, Susan
Lindeman, and Joe Piket. Absent was Chair Larry Colson
excused). Present also were Karen Jaeger, City Council Liaison;
Peter Vickerman, Planning Manager; Jesse Corrow, Associate
Planner; Assistant City Engineer Jupe Hale; and Scott Landsman,
City Attorney.
OATH OF OFFICE City Council Liaison Jaeger administered the Oath of Office to
newly appointed Planning Commissioner Chuck Lenthe. A round
of applause was offered by all in attendance.
ITEMS TO BE None.
REMOVED FROM
THE AGENDA
CONSENT ITEMS The following Consent Items were presented for the Commission’ s
approval:
A. Regular Meeting – February 10, 2020
B. Minutes – Work Session – February 10, 2020
C. ZOTA Tree Preservation – TABLED to Monday, March 9,
2020, Planning Commission meeting
City of Maple Grove
Zoning Ordinance Text Amendment for the purpose of
amending City Code regarding Tree Preservation.
D. KinderCare Child Care – TABLED to Monday, March 9,
2020, Planning Commission meeting
EIG14T KCE 302003 MN Maple Grove, LLC
Outlot F, Southwest Crossroads
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PUD Non-Residential Development Stage Plan, Preliminary
and Final Plat for the purpose of constructing a new
approximate 11,990 square foot learning center and child care
facility.
Motion by Commissioner Lindeman, seconded by
Commissioner Lenthe, to approve the Consent Items as
presented. Upon call of the motion by Vice-Chair Ayika, there
were six ayes and no nays. Motion carried.
CONSIDERATION None.
OF ITEMS PULLED
FROM CONSENT
AGENDA
REVIEW OF THE Mr. Vickerman reviewed with the Commission what items the City
CITY COUNCIL Council approved that was given direction at the Planning
Commission level.
MINUTES FROM
THEIR REGULAR
MEETING OF
FEBRUARY 18,
2020
NEW BUSINESS No items to present.
OLD BUSINESS
PUBLIC HEARING City Attorney Landsman reported Commissioner Klein would be
recusing herself from discussing and voting on this item.
ELM ROAD
Motion by Commissioner __, seconded by Commissioner __, to
ELM ROAD remove the item from the table. Upon call of the motion by
SOUTH, INC. Vice- Chair Ayika, there were five ayes and no nays. Motion
16500 ELM RD, carried.
16300 ELM RD, Mr. Corrow stated this item was tabled at the previous planning
16301 ELM RD, commission meeting to allow staff and the applicant the
16501 ELM RD, opportunity to address the following concerns. ( 1) Compare lot
densities and tree removal percentages of the nearby Creekside
16227 ELM RD,
Estates development, ( 2) Provide an alternative plan that will not
16205 ELM RD, adversely affect forested areas on the adjacent Schroeder property,
16101 ELM RD, 3) Display how homes may be placed on irregular shaped lots
16601 ELM RD, without the need for future variances, and ( 4) Provide analysis of
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16600 63RD AVE. how the Gilbert property may be affected as a result of a proposed
nearby intersection. Please refer to the attached exhibits for
supplemental illustrations.
PUD
RESIDENTIAL Creekside Estates Comparison:
CONCEPT
STAGE PLAN,
Density Calculations
DEVELOPMENT Elm Road Creekside Estates
STAGE PLAN, 58.85 net acres 23.7 net acres
REZONING 106 Lots 43 Lots
AND 1.80 units per acre 1.81 units per acre
PRELIMINARY T-Zone Overlay
PLAT FOR THE Elm Road Creekside Estates
PURPOSE OF 19 acres in T-Zone
CONSTRUCTIN 10 acres in T-Zone ( 19 lots) 31 lots)
G 106 SINGLE Avg. Lot Size = 21,961 sq.
Avg. Lot Size = 20,312 sq. ft. ft.
FAMILY
49.44% Tree Removal 49.5 % Tree Removal
HOMES 52.63% Tree Removal w/
Periphery N/A with Periphery Trees*
At the time Creekside Estates was approved, periphery tree
removal was not factored as it is with the Elm Road project. The
tree survey for Creekside Estates did not include trees at the edge
of the grading limit that likely were impacted. Had the same
standards been applied, it is likely that more trees would have been
counted as “ removed” since the grading would have encroached
periphery tree driplines.
Schroeder Property Buffer:
The applicant was asked to provide a buffer adjacent to the
Schroeder property where no tree protective measures currently
exist. As a result, the applicant is proposing to stop the road (and
associated grading) short of the property line by 6 ½ feet. A 15-
foot outlot will also be added to the area to the north of the new
road ( lot 82) and will include a temporary no-grade protective
easement. The area to the south of the new road ( lot 83) will
include a 6 ½-foot temporary no-grade easement placed over it.
The goal of these efforts is to preserve a transition area of trees and
natural vegetation along the shared property line while continuing
with the development of the bordering lots. The original site plan
included grading and vegetation removal up to the property line.
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Irregular Lots:
The Planning Commission asked the applicant to display how
building footprints will fit comfortably on certain lots within the
proposed development. The applicant provided exhibits for the
lots in question using house plans from one of their builders.
On the north side of Elm Road, all lots will fit a 70-foot wide
home, except for lots 69 & 70, which show a 64-foot wide home.
On the south side of Elm Road, all of the lots fit at least a 60-
foot wide home but many accommodate the wider 70-foot wide
homes. The applicant does not anticipate future requests for
setback variances.
Gilbert Property:
The Gilbert home is situated approximately 210-feet from the Elm
Road right-of-way. The proposed intersecting road is just east of
the Gilbert driveway on the south side of Elm Road. There appears
to be adequate screening with the considerable tree cover along the
south property line. Assuming future road grading is maintained
within the existing road right-of-way, most of the screening will
remain intact.
Memo Regarding Elm Road Improvements:
The Public Works Director/Assistant City Engineer has provided a
memorandum which outlines the planned improvements to Elm
Road and how they relate to the proposed residential development.
The memo acknowledges that while the two projects are certainly
connected, the design and construction of Elm Road is a City-led
project and is fully independent from the approval process of the
residential development. The design process of Elm Road, which
is in the very preliminary stages, will be actively communicated
with the City Council and the public when preliminary designs are
completed. The design schedule is unknown at this time, and is
dependent on the timeline of the residential development approval.
ORIGINAL STAFF COMMENTS:
The applicant is requesting PUD Concept Stage Plan,
Development Stage Plan, Preliminary Plat approval and Rezoning
to R-2, PUD, for the purpose of developing property into 106
single-family detached residential lots, plus one amenity lot.
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General Comments:
The site is located on the north and south sides of Elm Road, west
of Vicksburg Lane and east of Elm Creek, and is currently made up
of nine R-A ( Single-Family Agricultural) zoned parcels ranging
from 2.8 acres up to 20 acres in size. Existing homes and
structures will be removed from the site prior to construction.
The applicant is proposing to redevelop the site into 106 single-
family detached lots in two separate phases. Phase 1 would consist
of 75 lots, plus one amenity lot, primarily on the eastern and
northern portions of the site, while phase 2 is made up of 31 lots
west of the first phase. The site plan also shows a non-contiguous
parcel that will serve as temporary stormwater retention and
treatment until future development occurs. Staff is working with
the applicant on the placement of the treatment pond and a
potential future roadway through this parcel.
Density:
The 60.48-acre site contains 1.63 acres of wetland for a net acreage
of 58.85 giving the project a net density of 1.80 units per acre,
meeting the Comprehensive Plan range for Low-Medium Density
Residential of 1-3.5 units per acre.
Site Plan:
Development to the north will be serviced by a single road that will
connect with two cul-de-sacs and terminate near the northern
extent of the project. This terminus is intended, and will be
designed, to connect with a future development to the west and
will provide additional access to the neighborhood, as shown on
the ghost plat. Many of the 45 lots that make up the northern half
were designed much larger than the minimum requirements in
order to preserve the heavily forested areas located in a Tree
Preservation Overlay District.
The developed area south of Elm Road will be accessed by three
adequately spaced intersections that will lead to a series of
connecting roads and a number of cul-de-sacs providing access to
homes. Lot sizes in the southern half are generally smaller than
those to the north of Elm Road, and some of which fall below R-2
standard lot requirements. Of the 62 proposed lots on the southern
half, 15 are less than 80-feet wide and three lots are slightly less
than 10,000 square feet in area. These concessions are offset by
the overall number of larger lots proposed, the inclusion of the
amenity lot ( on the southern half) and the developer’ s efforts to
preserve the existing natural resources on the northern lots.
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A small area of wetland impact is shown in the northern portion of
the development and another area at the south-east of the project
that will be impacted by Elm Road improvements. The total area
of impacted wetlands appears to be less than ½ acre and a
mitigation plan is being discussed with the Engineering
Department.
Master Plan/Ghost Plat:
In May 2019, city staff collaborated with Gonyea Development to
hold a public informational session focusing on development near
Elm Road, the open house was followed by an informal
presentation to the City Council. A conceptual plan, which
detailed a proposal similar to this project, as well as possible future
development, was provided. The open house was well attended by
nearby property owners and the plan was generally well received
by the City Council.
Coinciding with the proposed residential project, Elm Road will
undergo significant public improvements which includes re-
alignment, grading, adding pavement, curb and gutters, and
pedestrian facilities. Additionally, municipal sewer and water
services will be extended to this area. The Parks and Recreation
Department has also been involved in planning for future trail
connections and access to the nearby Tree Preservation Area.
Proposed trail connections are shown on a number of the outlots in
the proposed plans.
Tree Preservation Overlay District:
There is an approximate 10-acre portion of the proposal located in
a Tree Preservation Overlay Zone ( T-Zone). The T-Zone
encompasses the entire northern “ arm” of the development and is
also located directly adjacent to the city owned Tree Preservation
Area. The applicant attended the Arbor Committee meeting on
January 9th in order to discuss the provided tree survey and
preservation plan. The Arbor Committee appreciates the
applicant’ s efforts to preserve large areas of contiguous trees on
the site as well as the forested areas that border the Tree
Preservation Area. In addition, the applicant is proposing to place
a conservation easement over 77.5% of the saved trees in order to
further protect these trees from possible removal by future
homeowners.
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The Tree Preservation Ordinance allows for the removal of up to
51% of the protected trees before replacement measures are
required. There are 10,909 inches of significant trees on site and
the applicant is proposing to remove 5,393.5 inches or 49.44%.
There is concern that the underlying roots of periphery trees
extending into the graded area may be damaged and negatively
affect the health of the trees. While these trees may remain on site,
staff has asked the applicant to include any tree whose estimated
canopy dripline extends into the graded area as removed. When
including the periphery trees, removal numbers increase to 5,741.5
inches or 52.63%, resulting in 142 (2.5 inch) replacement trees to
be provided.
Although the adjusted removal numbers exceed the 51% threshold,
there is a significant benefit in preserving large areas of forested
land, maintaining forested areas adjacent to the Tree Preservation
Area and implementing a conservation easement over many of the
saved trees. The applicant is also proposing to add at least 300
new trees throughout the individual lots. Staff is comfortable with
the tree preservation efforts and is not seeking the additional
replacement trees be added.
Project Point System:
A Project Point System score of 80.71% was achieved primarily
through the proposed architectural guidelines and the community
park/pool with clubhouse. Based on the home styles the developer
has provided in past developments, staff has no concerns with the
architectural quality of the development.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION:
Motion to recommend that the City Council direct staff to draft an
Ordinance rezoning property from R-A, Single-Family Agricultural
to R-2, PUD, Single-Family Residential, Planned Unit
Development, subject to the approval of the Final Plat.
Motion to recommend that the City Council direct the City
Attorney to draft a Planned Unit Development Agreement and a
Resolution approving the Elm Road PUD Concept Stage Plan,
Development Stage Plan and Preliminary Plat subject to:
1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the City
any remaining applicable comments contained in the
memorandums from:
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a. Public Works Dir./Assistant City Engineer dated
February 13, 2020
b. The Community & Economic Development
Department dated January 21, 2020
c. The Fire Department dated December 30, 2019
d. The Parks & Recreation Department, dated January
2, 2020
e. Traffic Engineer dated December 23, 2019
f. Water Resources Engineer dated February 3, 2020
The applicant shall acknowledge that Park Dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation to the
Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent Board Action.
Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each month.
Discussion
Commissioner Piket asked if staff had reviewed how one acre lots
would look in this development. Mr. Corrow reported this was not
discussed.
Commissioner Lamothe thanked staff for providing the Council
with a comparison between this development and Creekside
Estates. He believed the two metrics were comparable and
consistent. He stated he would like to have more discussion on the
buffer. Mr. Corrow commented the plan was presented to the
Arbor Committee and there were not any concerns regarding the
buffer. He noted the Arbor Committee supported the tree
conservation easement that was being provided in the northern
portion of the development.
Commissioner Lindeman thanked staff and the developer for
addressing some of the concerns she had regarding the house
sizes.
Vice-Chair Ayika commented on the road design. He asked if
roundabouts had been considered and questioned if the City would
be taking any input from the public regarding the roadway design.
Mr. Corrow explained the roadway design plans were not
finalized. He stated at this time the Commission was being asked to
review the development proposal and the roadway would be
designed in the future.
Commissioner Lenthe stated he had concerns with the ghost plat
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and long cul-de-sac that was located to the south of this plat. Mr.
Corrow indicated the ghost plat would not be approved this
evening as it was not part of the current development. He
explained the ghost plat was simply showing how future
development could occur. He reported the proposed cul-de-sac
would be 800 feet long and noted there were no options around
this. He indicated the Fire Department had supported the
proposed cul-de-sac length. He stated the only way to change the
cul-de-sac length would be to work with the property to the east.
He reiterated that the ghost plat was not being approved tonight.
Commissioner Lenthe questioned what would happen if a
connection to the east was desired and homes were built prior to
finalizing this connection. Mr. Corrow stated a connection has not
been proposed by the City because of the grade of the roadway.
Vice-Chair Ayika asked for further clarification on staff’ s
recommendation. Mr. Corrow reviewed the recommendation from
staff.
Vice-Chair Ayika requested the Commission make a motion to
reopen the public hearing.
Motion by Vice-Chair Ayika, seconded by Commissioner
Lamothe, to reopen the public hearing. Upon call of the
motion by Vice-Chair Ayika, there were five ayes and no nays.
Motion carried.
Vice-Chair Ayika opened the public hearing at 7:23 p.m.
The applicant was at the meeting to answer questions.
Dave Gonyea, Gonyea Development, stated he had looked into one
acre lots but explained the assessments per lot would become too
high. He commented on how the price for land was on the rise and
how this was impacting the price of homes.
Vice-Chair Ayika asked what the size of the houses would be
within this development. Mr. Gonyea estimated the houses would
be 3,500 to 5,000 square feet. He indicated the prices would range
from $650,000 up to $1.4 million.
The public was asked by Vice-Chair Ayika if they had any
comments to make regarding this application.
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Vice-Chair Ayika acknowledged the 20+ letters the Planning
Commission received from the public.
Michael Schroeder explained he was representing Patricia
Schroeder who lived at 16510 Elm Road. He stated he would like
to see greater preservation of the woodlands. He commented on
the grading plan and stated he had concerns with the grade within
the buffer. He discussed how the woodlands would be impacted if
a portion of the forest floor was exposed to sunlight when this has
not occurred in the past. He feared the woodlands would be
decimated and invasives would take over. He encouraged the
Planning Commission to consider further methods to preserve the
woodlands while maintaining a proper edge of the forest so as not
to adversely impact his parent’ s property. He indicated he was not
against development in this area of the City but requested the
woodlands be preserved.
Chandra Gilbert, 16120 Elm Road, stated she had questions
regarding the road. She expressed concern with how things will
look along the road given the large number of trees that will be
removed. She encouraged the developer save or replant as many
trees as possible along Elm Road. She asked how wide the right-
of-way would be for Elm Road.
Vice-Chair Ayika explained the roadway design was not complete
at this time. Mr. Corrow reported once the road was designed the
City would better understand if right-of-way was needed from
property owners.
Ann Dryer, 6310 Everest Lane N, stated she was concerned about
the drainage from this property. She questioned who would be
maintaining the stormwater pond in the development. Mr. Corrow
explained the City will maintain the stormwater ponds.
Barbara Leighton, 16180 Elm Road, expressed concerns with the
value of her property being maintained. She explained she would
have six new homes to the east of her home. She believed the new
development was too dense and she did not want stormwater
running onto her property from these new homes. She stated she
was also concerned with how her property would be impacted by
headlight wash.
Gary Novak, 6204 Comstock Lane, indicated he was concerned
with the location of the stormwater retention pond. He discussed
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how the water would drain from the proposed development. He
asked if the City would own and land and maintain the retention
pond after it was built in Phase II. Mr. Corrow explained the City
would have an easement over the property in order to maintain the
retention pond.
Mr. Novak feared that the new location of the retention pond
would make it difficult for neighboring properties to develop in the
future. He recommended the pond be moved in order to allow the
neighboring properties values to be maintained.
Mr. Gonyea apologized for the confusion and noted his plans may
have stated “ temporary pond” for Phase II, but stated this would be
the permanent location for the retention pond. He explained the
pond would be constructed and given to the City as part of Phase II
of this development.
Mr. Novak suggested the retention pond be located on another lot
within Phase II or that a $ 750,000 escrow be created to assist with
moving the stormwater pond in the future. He feared he would not
receive a competitive land price given the proposed location of the
retention pond. Mr. Corrow explained the intention would be to
extend the road through the middle of the pond, where it is now.
He stated this road has to go through.
Vice-Chair Ayika explained the developer can only locate the
retention pond on land he owns. He stated the location of the pond
may change in the future if additional development occurs.
Mr. Novak stated he would like to see the retention pond moved
closer to the adjacent lowlands. He requested the entire project be
denied given the proposed location of the retention pond in Phase
II of the project.
Mr. Gonyea commented on the ghost plat and stated he was
uncertain how this property would develop. He stated he could
support a condition that would state the Phase II retention pond
would not interfere with the future road configuration.
Mr. Novak questioned if the developer would support a condition
that states the location of the pond would be decided at a later date.
Mr. Gonyea explained the location of the pond could be
determined when Phase II begins in order for him and staff to take
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into consideration what other development was occurring.
Mr. Novak stated the main concern was that the adjacent residents
wanted to receive a competitive price for their property and with
the proposed location of the retention pond, the residents fear this
will not occur.
Mary Hintzman, 6240 Everest Lane, discussed the previous plans
for this development and questioned how the developer would
keep the water from the development from running into the
lowlands. She questioned if the City could approve Phase I and
not Phase II of the project.
Robert Lavigne, 6211 Comstock Lane, stated he lived to the west
of the proposed development. He commented on how water would
run down the hill from the development and into the lowlands. He
expressed concern with the fact the developer had not provided a
drainage plan. He stated he would be interested in reviewing this
type of plan given the fact there was already drainage issues in this
neighborhood. He feared how this would be compounded when
over 100 new homes were constructed.
Mr. Corrow reported a grading plan was required by the City and
this plan showed how water within the development would flow.
Mr. Lavigne questioned how the neighbors could be assured water
would not flow onto their properties. He feared that the water
problems the neighbors already had would be exacerbated. Mr.
Corrow stated all drainage within the development would be
directed to the storm system and the neighbors’ property would not
be impacted. Mr. Hale discussed the watershed district
requirements in further detail with Mr. Lavigne. Mr. Vickerman
explained the grading plans were available for Mr. Lavigne to
review online.
Mr. Lavigne indicated he had concerns with the roadway and
questioned who would be designing the roadway. Vice-Chair
Ayika explained the City would be designing and constructing the
roadway. He stated the roadway designs were not finalized.
Mr. Lavigne expressed concern with how the additional traffic in
the neighborhood would impact the area. He stated this was a big
deal to him and the neighbors would like further information on
how traffic concerns would be addressed. He indicated the speed of
traffic along this roadway was also a concern. He anticipated the
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speed of traffic would increase after the roadway was paved. He
encouraged the City to consider installing two roundabouts in order
to assist with slowing the speed of traffic.
Mr. Lavigne asked if his property was being rezoned or if it was
only the land the developer owns. Mr. Corrow reported the only
land being rezoned was owned by the developer.
Mr. Lavigne encouraged the City to develop something unique in
this special area of Maple Grove and in order to assist in
maintaining the greenspace. He suggested only 75 homes be
constructed instead of 106. He anticipated homeowners would pay
the premium for a larger lot with more greenspace. He questioned
how the City knew this development was consistent with the needs
and wants of Maple Grove residents. He explained he had a
petition with over 700 signatures stating residents do not want
more building. He stated he would like the City to focus on saving
the greenspace instead of building more of the same. He
encouraged the City to do something different and be more
responsible for the greenspace for future generations.
Vice-Chair Ayika encouraged Mr. Lavigne to forward his petition
to City staff. He discussed how the price of the proposed homes
noting they would be comparable to the neighboring homes.
Ruth Kulberg, 6210 Comstock Lane, explained she had written a
letter to the City. She reported she opposed the proposed
development. She expressed concern with the fact the City had not
more clearly addressed the water and drainage concerns. She
understood this was a prime piece of property that would develop.
She indicated she was bothered by the way the development was
being proposed as being secluded when there would be over 100
homes on the land. She asked why the City would recommend this
land be bulldozed for another typical neighborhood in Maple
Grove. She encouraged the City to do something more in order to
preserve the greenspace.
Phil Hermann, 16683 Elm Road, asked if the EIS format was up to
date and available online for this project. Mr. Vickerman reported
an EIS or EAW was not required for this project. He stated the
watershed district would be reviewing Phase I and Phase II plans
for this development.
Mr. Hermann questioned if the drainage plan had protectionary
measures in place for construction runoff. Mr. Hale explained
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every grading and construction project required an environmental
permit to prevent erosion control and runoff. He reported this
would be inspected weekly by the City and after each rainfall. He
commented if silt fences were becoming full the developer would
have to address this concern.
Mr. Hermann believed this development should be low density in
order to capture the beauty in this area of Maple Grove.
Scott Kulberg, 6210 Comstock Lane, asked if the watershed
district has approved this project. Mr. Vickerman reported the
watershed district were notified when the plans come through and
explained a grading permit would not be issued by the City until
the developer receives approval from the watershed district.
Further discussion ensued regarding the City and outside agency
approval process for PUD’ s.
Ms. Gilbert expressed concern with the elevation of the
neighborhood. She questioned how the water would run uphill to
the holding pond and not into the neighboring properties. Vice-
Chair Ayika described how the stormwater system would be
designed and sized properly to manage the water within the
proposed development.
Doug Hoekstra, 16912 Elm Road, asked who would be responsible
for the impact on Elm Creek. He anticipated the creek would take
on more water after the new development was completed. Mr.
Hale reported the watershed district managed the creek. He
explained the development could not put more water into the creek
than it was already receiving. He indicated the City would be
reviewing these plans as well.
Mr. Lavigne questioned who would be responsible if the creek
were to overflow unto an adjacent property. Vice-Chair Ayika
commented if the creek were to overflow the property owner
would have to demonstrate the developer was at fault.
Mr. Lavigne He inquired if the City has ever had a development
stop because it could not receive approval from the watershed
district. Vice-Chair Ayika anticipated this would only happen if
the site can not be properly engineered. Mr. Vickerman stated he
has never seen a project stop because of watershed issues. He
explained engineers typically come together from both sides in
order to make necessary changes in order to move the plans
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forward.
Commissioner Lindeman reiterated the fact that the Planning
Commission was a recommending body and the final decision on
this project would be made by the City Council.
Motion by Vice-Chair Ayika, seconded by Commissioner
Lindeman, to close the public hearing at 8:40 p.m. Upon call
of the motion by Vice-Chair Ayika, there were five ayes and no
nays. Motion carried.
Commissioner Lamothe stated there were a lot of things for the
Commission to consider regarding this project. He commented
overall he was supportive of this project and the proposed density.
He explained he had not problems with the stormwater and
drainage. He anticipated the proposed project would improve the
drainage in this neighborhood. He indicated he would like to see
staff further review the site triangle and safety movements given
the fact traffic would increase along Elm Road. He stated he did
have concerns regarding the proposed buffer and explained he
wanted to be sure this development was not negatively impacting
the surrounding properties. He commented he would not be able to
support this project until he was certain a proper buffer was in
place. He stated he could support the development if the two
development parcels in the most northwest corner were deferred.
Vice-Chair Ayika asked if Commissioner Lamothe was asking for
a portion of the buffer to be provided by a neighboring property
owner.
Commissioner Lamothe commented this was not his request.
Rather he wanted the developer to provide a more adequate buffer
given the fact a portion of the development was located within a
Tree Preservation Zone ( TPZ). He reported TPZ’ s have special
protections in place with respect to development.
Vice-Chair Ayika indicated the Commission would like to better
understand what was enough and what was not enough, when it
came to tree preservation. He stated he agreed with Commissioner
Lamothe and thought two lots should be deferred. He explained
this was private property and would develop at some point. He
reported the price and size of the new homes would be in the same
range as the surrounding homes. He questioned what action the
Commission wanted to take on this item, and asked if the item
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should be tabled for further information from staff.
Commissioner Piket stated what would be gained by tabling the
item.
Vice-Chair Ayika reported this would allow staff more time to
further investigate the buffer and site triangle at Vicksburg and
Elm Road.
Commissioner Lamothe stated after speaking with the City
Attorney he had an idea of how he would like to phrase a motion
for approval.
Commissioner Piket recommended the Commission address the
rezoning first prior to making a motion on the PUD.
Motion by Commissioner Piket, seconded by Commissioner
Lamothe, to recommend that the City Council direct staff to
draft an Ordinance rezoning property from R-A, Single-
Family Agricultural to R-2, PUD, Single-Family Residential,
Planned Unit Development, subject to the approval of the Final
Plat. Upon call of the motion by Vice-Chair Ayika, there were
five ayes and no nays. Motion carried.
Commissioner Piket asked if the Commission had to approve
Phase I and Phase II together.
Vice-Chair Ayika explained the request was made for both Phases
together. He indicated the Commission could put restrictions on
the retention. City Attorney Landsman offered language to the
Commission to address the pond concerns. He stated when the
City Council approves a project the approval was conditional. He
explained all conditions must be met at certain benchmarks. He
suggested an additional condition for approval be as follows:
Temporary Pond 1W and Filter Basin 1W location shall be
determined by the City prior to any permits being issued for the
development of Phase II.
City Attorney Landsman proposed the following language
regarding the buffer: Lots 82 and 83 on the Preliminary Plat shall
not be developed as part of any phase until such time the developer
provides evidence, subject to the review and approval of the City
Engineer, that a buffer will protect the trees within adjoining
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properties.
Commissioner Lamothe commented the City may not have
someone on staff to determine if the trees will be protected. For
this reason, he suggested the end of that statement be modified to
state the applicant shall provide necessary funds to allow the City
to hire consultants to complete the proper analysis and make a
recommendation on whether or not Lots 82 and 83 can be
developed.
City Attorney Landsman recommended the statement read as
follows: Lots 82 and 83 on the Preliminary Plat shall not be
developed as part of any phase until such time the developer
provides evidence, subject to the review and approval of the City
Engineer and a consulting arborist or similar profession, that a
buffer will protect the trees within adjoining properties.
Commissioner Lamothe requested the phrase protect the trees be
changed to not degrade the existing forest.
Motion by Commissioner Lamothe, seconded by
Commissioner Lindeman, to recommend that the City Council
direct the City Attorney to draft a Planned Unit Development
Agreement and a Resolution approving the Elm Road PUD
Concept Stage Plan, Development Stage Plan and Preliminary
Plat subject to:
1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the
City any remaining applicable comments contained
in the memorandums from:
a. Public Works Director/Assistant City Engineer
dated February 13, 2020
b. The Community & Economic Development
Department dated January 21, 2020
c. The Fire Department dated December 30, 2019
d. The Parks & Recreation Department, dated
January 2, 2020
e. Traffic Engineer dated December 23, 2019
f. Water Resources Engineer dated February 3,
2020
2. The applicant shall be subject to the following
conditions:
a. Temporary Pond 1W and Filter Basin 1W
location shall be determined by the City prior to
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any permits being issued for the development of
Phase II.
b. Lots 82 and 83 on the Preliminary Plat shall not
be developed as part of any phase until such time
the developer provides evidence, subject to the
review and approval of the City Engineer and a
consulting arborist or similar profession, that a
buffer will not degrade the quality of the existing
forest within adjoining properties.
The applicant shall acknowledge that Park Dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation
to the Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent Board
Action. Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of
each month.
Commissioner Lindeman stated she has visited this property and
understood the desire to protect this land. She indicated it would be
great to keep the land as is. However, she explained the developer
had the right to develop the site. She indicated there was a demand
the proposed housing style and noted she would be supporting the
proposed motion with the two conditions.
Commissioner Piket explained this land was zoned for residential
single-family homes per the City’s Comprehensive Plan. He
encouraged the residents to get involved in the Comprehensive
Planning process in the future. He understood that the adjacent
neighbors wanted to keep this area greenspace, but at this time, the
land was owned by a developer and the developer had rights.
Commissioner Lenthe indicated he was new to this process and he
agreed with the statements that have been made. He reported the
request was consistent with City requirements and for this reason
he would be supporting the development.
Vice-Chair Ayika encouraged City staff to look closely at the
drainage and grading plan if this project were approved by the City
Council given the high level of concern that has been raised by the
neighbors.
Upon call of the motion by Vice-Chair Ayika, there were five
ayes and no nays. Motion carried.
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DISCUSSION There were no discussion items.
ITEMS
ADJOURNMENT Motion by Commissioner Piket, seconded by Commissioner
Lindeman, to adjourn the Planning Commission meeting.
Upon call of the motion by Vice-Chair Ayika, there were six
ayes and no nays. Motion carried.
Vice-Chair Ayika adjourned the meeting at 9:09 p.m. to the next
regularly scheduled meeting of the Planning Commission
scheduled for March 9, 2020.
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