Planning Commission
Regular MeetingMaple Grove, MN · August 10, 2020
Minutes
MAPLE GROVE
PLANNING COMMISSION
August 10, 2020
CALL TO ORDER A meeting of the Maple Grove Planning Commission was held at
7:00 p.m. on August 10, 2020 at the Maple Grove City Hall,
Hennepin County, Minnesota. Chair Colson called the meeting to
order at 7:00 p.m.
PLEDGE OF
ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL Planning Commission members present were Chair Larry Colson,
Vice- Chair Chris Ayika, Lorie Klein, Craig Lamothe, Susan
Lindeman, Chuck Lenthe, and Joe Piket. Present also were Karen
Jaeger, City Council Liaison; Joe Hogeboom, Community and
Economic Development Director; Peter Vickerman, Planning
Manager and Scott Landsman, City Attorney.
ITEMS TO BE None.
REMOVED FROM
THE AGENDA
CONSENT ITEMS The following Consent Items were presented for the Commission’ s
approval:
MINUTES
A. Regular Meeting – July 27, 2020
Motion by Commissioner Ayika, seconded by Commissioner
Piket, to approve the Consent Items as presented. Upon call of
the motion by Chair Colson, there were seven ayes and no
nays. Motion carried.
CONSIDERATION None.
OF ITEMS PULLED
FROM CONSENT
AGENDA
REVIEW OF THE Mr. Hogeboom reviewed with the Commission what items the City
CITY COUNCIL Council approved that was given direction at the Planning
Commission level. He explained the City would be completing a
MINUTES FROM
housing study in order to better understand the City’s housing
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THEIR REGULAR market. He commented on the updates that were being planned for
MEETING OF Main Street and noted a second round of business loans was
recently approved by the Economic Development Authority.
AUGUST 3, 2020
OLD BUSINESS No items to present.
NEW BUSINESS
Mr. Vickerman stated the applicant is requesting Planned Unit
THE VILLAGE
Development, Development Stage Plan approval for a five-story,
ARBOR LAKES – 196 unit senior living building with a mix of independent living,
SR. HOUSING assisted living and memory care units. The site received Planned
Unit Development, Concept Stage Plan approval on May 18, 2020
DORAN FAMILY
for the same use. He reported staff sees this project was in
DEVELOPMENT, conformance with the Concept Stage Plan. It was noted a text
LLC amendment would be required to the Comprehensive Plan to the
PUD Regional Mixed Use area and staff would prepare this language
independent of this request. The design amenities were reviewed
DEVELOPMENT
with the Commission, along with the exterior and landscaping
STAGE PLAN AND plan.
FINAL PLAT FOR
A FIVE STORY, STAFF RECOMMENDATION:
APPROXIMATELY
Motion to recommend that the City Council direct the City
196 UNITS AND
Attorney to draft a Resolution and a Planned Unit Development
WILL INCLUDE A Agreement approving The Village Arbor Lakes Sr. Housing PUD
MIX OF Development Stage Plan and Final Plat, subject to:
INDEPENDENT
LIVING, ASSISTED 1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the city any
LIVING AND remaining applicable comments contained in the
memorandums from:
MEMORY CARE
a. The Community & Economic Development
Department, dated August 3, 2020
b. The Fire Department dated, August 3, 2020
c. The Water Resources Engineer, dated August 3, 2020
d. The Transportation Operations Engineer, dated July 30,
2020
e. The Parks & Recreation Department, dated July 29,
2020
The applicant shall acknowledge that Park Dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation to the
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Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent board action.
Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each month.
Discussion
Chair Colson asked where the trash enclosure would be located.
Mr. Vickerman reported this would have to be determined by the
applicant prior to being issued a building permit. He anticipated
the trash enclosure would be located under the building.
Commissioner Klein discussed how COVID-19 might be impacting
residential building design in the future. She questioned if
attempts were being made to change building format in order to
reduce the size of gathering rooms. Mr. Vickerman stated with the
current architecture there were a number of rooms that could
function for group gatherings. He explained he did not have
specifics on how COVID-19 would impact the interior of
developments. He commented changes may occur between now
and when the building opens.
Commissioner Lenthe inquired how the noise from Hemlock Lane
would be addressed by the developer. Mr. Vickerman deferred this
question to the applicant.
Commissioner Lamothe discussed the roadway network. He asked
if Arbor Lakes Parkway would continue to have a curb cut. Mr.
Vickerman stated the City’s intent was to straighten the curb. He
commented alternatives were being considered for adequate fire
access.
Commissioner Lamothe expressed concern with the site triangle
for those entering and exiting the site and also at the adjacent
roundabout. Mr. Vickerman stated he could have the City’s traffic
engineers double check this concern.
The applicant was at the meeting to answer questions.
Tony Kuechle, Doran Companies, thanked staff for providing the
Commission with a thorough staff report. He discussed the
enhancements that were made to the landscaping plan. He
explained the building was thoughtfully designed to create a
landmark at this entrance. He was excited to start this project in
the spring. He noted the club room can be divided into smaller
spaces for smaller gatherings. He commented on the outdoor
amenities and dining options. He reported workers would get into
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the site through a separate door from guests. He indicated a trash
enclosure was not being proposed but rather the garage would have
multiple trash rooms and a Tool Cat would be used to bring the
trash containers outside on pick up day. He stated a sound study
would be completed to address the noise along Hemlock Lane. He
anticipated double or triple pane windows would be installed on
that side of the building. He commented on the curb but on Village
Way and how this was requested by the Fire Department.
Commissioner Klein asked what type of ventilation system would
be installed in this building. Mr. Kuechle commented on the type
of HVAC units that were installed within senior housing
developments. He reported each unit would have a magic pack
that brings in fresh air for heating and cooling.
Chair Colson questioned what the building would be called. Mr.
Kuechle reported a name has not been selected.
Councilmember Jaeger stated she was saddened to hear about the
fire at the Doran building in St. Paul and asked if this building
would be rebuilt. Mr. Kuechle explained this fire would not have
an impact on this building and noted the fire in St. Paul was a third
party Doran project. He indicated the hotel portion of the project
would resume construction in the next month.
Motion by Commissioner Lenthe, seconded by Commissioner
Lamothe, to recommend that the City Council direct the City
Attorney to draft a Resolution and a Planned Unit
Development Agreement approving The Village Arbor Lakes
Sr. Housing PUD Development Stage Plan and Final Plat,
subject to:
1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the
city any remaining applicable comments contained
in the memorandums from:
a. The Community & Economic Development
Department, dated August 3, 2020
b. The Fire Department dated, August 3, 2020
c. The Water Resources Engineer, dated August 3,
2020
d. The Transportation Operations Engineer, dated
July 30, 2020
e. The Parks & Recreation Department, dated July
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29, 2020
The applicant shall acknowledge that Park Dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation
to the Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent board
action. Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each
month.
Upon call of the motion by Chair Colson, there were seven ayes
and no nays. Motion carried.
Mr. Vickerman stated the applicant is requesting Planned Unit
PUBLIC HEARING
Development ( PUD) Concept Stage Plan Amendment for the
previously approved Cook Lake Maple Grove project. The
COOK LAKE
previous approval had 42 single family homes proposed whereas
MAPLE GROVE this proposal has 58 lots proposed. This current proposal also
THE EXCELSIOR includes a private amenity lot and a proposed public trail loop
which are new compared with the previous approval. The general
GROUP
layout remains the same with an extensive open space ( more than
PUD CONCEPT 50%) area between the lots and Cook Lake and an additional open
STAGE PLAN space area between the lots and Bass Lake Road. Staff explained
AMENDMENT FOR Lot 58 is shown partially on Outlot B ( part of the Havenwood
project) and is not owned by the applicant so will need to be
58 NEW SINGLE-
removed unless an agreement can be made with the landowner.
FAMILY LOTS, Staff commented further on the size of the proposed lots, the
ONE LOT FOR A amenities that would be included in the development and
COMMUNITY recommended approval of the request.
BUILDING, ONE
LOT FOR AN STAFF RECOMMENDATION:
EXISTING HOME
Motion to recommend that the City Council direct the City
AND EXTENSIVE Attorney to draft a Resolution approving the Cook Lake Maple
OPEN SPACE Grove PUD Residential Concept Stage Plan Amendment, subject
to:
1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the City
any remaining applicable comments contained in the
memorandums from:
a. The Community & Economic Development
Department dated August 4, 2020
b. The Water Resources Engineer dated July 22, 2020
c. The Traffic Engineer dated July 30, 2020
d. The Fire Department dated July 27, 2020
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e. The Parks & Recreation Department, dated August
5, 2020
The applicant shall acknowledge that Park Dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation to the
Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent board action.
Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each month.
Discussion
Commissioner Lindeman asked if discussions have been held with
the City of Corcoran regarding the roadway connection. Mr.
Vickerman stated engineering staff has been speaking with
Corcoran staff. It was his understanding there were proposals for
development in this area and the cities would need to discuss how
the project was funded.
Commissioner Lenthe questioned if the applicant would proceed
with the project if the increased density were not approved by the
City. Mr. Vickerman deferred this question to the applicant.
Chair Colson inquired if the development would have 57 or 58
lots. Mr. Vickerman stated the development would have 57 lots
with an asterisk. He discussed how the property lines have shifted
since the project was brought to the City. He indicated Lot 58 was
still being worked on and the underlying landowner needed to
approve the lot.
Chair Colson commented this development appeared to be quite
crammed together given the fact the setbacks were reduced to five
feet. He asked if any other concessions were agreed upon for this
development. Mr. Vickerman indicated this was the only
concession that was made for this development.
Commissioner Piket agreed that the development was quite
packed. He stated it was his understanding more open space was
being gained but the development had also become more dense.
Mr. Vickerman reported this was the case and noted the open
space was all upland area.
Commissioner Ayika indicated this development was quite
compact. He questioned if additional lots could be built in the
open space. Mr. Vickerman stated this was not the developer’ s
plan.
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Chair Colson inquired if staff had a visual of the originally
approved site plan. Mr. Vickerman reviewed the original plat with
the Commission. It was noted the original plat was approved in
2018.
Chair Colson stated he preferred the original plat to the revised
plat. He explained he did not see what benefits the City was
gaining through the new plat.
Commissioner Ayika agreed.
Commissioner Lamothe commented the proposed lot size was not
unprecedent in the City of Maple Grove. He discussed a couple of
neighborhoods in the City that have even smaller lots.
Commissioner Piket questioned what type of homes would be
constructed on these lots. Mr. Vickerman reviewed the proposed
home types with the Commission. He commented if the homes
were closer than five feet the homes would have to be sprinkled.
He reported each home would have a five foot side yard setback so
the homes would be 10 feet apart.
Commissioner Klein inquired what price point and size the homes
would be. Mr. Vickerman deferred this question to the applicant.
Commissioner Lenthe stated he did not support this development
given the proposed lot size. He explained he would like to see
more creativity or he would recommend the original plat move
forward.
The applicant was at the meeting to answer questions.
Steph Griffin, The Excelsior Group, thanked the Commission for
their consideration. She explained she was a new developer from
the company that received the original approval. She indicated the
five foot side setbacks were consistent with the original request.
She noted lot lines were changed, and an amenity space was added.
She reported the proposed units would be rental and would be
managed by one entity. She indicated the units would be 1,200 to
2,400 square feet in size. She discussed the approved density that
surrounded this project and described how this would complement
this development. She stated she would be working with staff to
provide a trail through the open space. She explained the most
challenging issue for this site was the roadway design. She
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indicated the 42 unit option was not viable and would not be
moving forward.
Chair Colson commented he was not aware this was a rental unit
development.
Commissioner Piket asked what the rental rates would be for these
units. Ms. Griffin explained these were luxury units and the rental
rates would be $3,000 per month.
Commissioner Ayika questioned who would be managing these
units. Ms. Griffin reported the development would have on-site
management.
Commissioner Lindeman commented she was happy to see smaller
homes coming into Maple Grove. She understood the price point
may not work for everyone in Maple Grove, but she appreciated
they were smaller in size.
Commissioner Lamothe stated he also missed the fact that these
were rental units. He indicated the proposed development was
similar to Mills Creek and noted those lots were even smaller.
Ben Schmidt, The Excelsior Group, discussed the roadway
alignment and noted the rental units were moved as far from the
lake as possible. He explained 30% of the rental units would be
side loaded.
Chair Colson opened the public hearing at 8:02 p.m.
The public was asked by Chair Colson if they had any comments to
make regarding this application.
No one wished to address the Commission.
Motion by Chair Colson, seconded by Commissioner
Lindeman, to close the public hearing at 8:02 p.m. Upon call
of the motion by Chair Colson, there were seven ayes and no
nays. Motion carried.
Motion by Commissioner Lindeman, seconded by
Commissioner Ayika, to recommend that the City Council
direct the City Attorney to draft a Resolution approving the
Cook Lake Maple Grove PUD Residential Concept Stage Plan
Amendment, subject to:
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1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the
City any remaining applicable comments contained in
the memorandums from:
a. The Community & Economic Development
Department dated August 4, 2020
b. The Water Resources Engineer dated July 22,
2020
c. The Traffic Engineer dated July 30, 2020
d. The Fire Department dated July 27, 2020
e. The Parks & Recreation Department, dated
August 5, 2020
The applicant shall acknowledge that Park Dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation
to the Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent board
action. Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each
month.
Upon call of the motion by Chair Colson, there were six ayes
and one nay ( Commissioner Lenthe opposed). Motion carried.
DISCUSSION There were no discussion items.
ITEMS
ADJOURNMENT Motion by Chair Colson, seconded by Commissioner Lenthe,
to adjourn the Planning Commission meeting. Upon call of
the motion by Chair Colson, there were seven ayes and no
nays. Motion carried.
Chair Colson adjourned the meeting at 8:06 p.m. to the next
regularly scheduled meeting of the Planning Commission
scheduled for September 28, 2020.
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