Planning Commission
Regular MeetingMaple Grove, MN · August 9, 2021
Minutes
MAPLE GROVE
PLANNING COMMISSION
August 9, 2021
CALL TO ORDER A meeting of the Maple Grove Planning Commission was held at
7:00 p.m. on August 9, 2021 at the Maple Grove City Hall,
Hennepin County, Minnesota. Chair Lamothe called the meeting to
order at 7:00 p.m.
PLEDGE OF
ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL Planning Commission members present were Chair Craig
Lamothe, Chris Ayika, Lorie Klein, Susan Lindeman, Chuck
Lenthe, Michael Ostaffe, and Joe Piket. Present also were Karen
Jaeger, City Council Liaison; Joe Hogeboom, Community and
Economic Development Director; Jesse Corrow, Associate
Planner; and Scott Landsman, City Attorney.
ITEMS TO BE Motion by Chair Lamothe, seconded by Commissioner Klein,
REMOVED FROM to move Item 6A under Old Business for REO Plastics to the
Consent Agenda and recommend this item be tabled to the
THE AGENDA
September 13, 2021 Planning Commission meeting. Upon call
of the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven ayes and no
nays. Motion carried.
CONSENT ITEMS The following Consent Items were presented for the Commission’s
approval:
A. Regular Meeting – July 26, 2021
B. REO Plastics – TABLED to the September 13, 2021 Planning
Commission meeting.
Kraus Anderson Construction Company
11850 93rd Avenue North
Rezoning, short plat and comprehensive plan amendment for
the purpose of combining an adjacent property.
Motion by Commissioner Lenthe, seconded by Commissioner
Lindeman, to remove the Regular Meeting Minutes from July
26, 2021 from the Consent Agenda for discussion. Upon call of
the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven ayes and no
nays. Motion carried.
Commissioner Lenthe requested a change to the minutes Page 8
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due to the fact the seconder of the second motion on the page was
not listed. He reported he made this second and would like the
minutes to reflect this change.
Motion by Commissioner Lenthe, seconded by Commissioner
Lindeman, to approve the July 26, 2021 Planning Commission
minutes as amended. Upon call of the motion by Chair
Lamothe, there were seven ayes and no nays. Motion carried.
Motion by Commissioner Ostaffe, seconded by Commissioner
Piket, to approve Consent Item 3B tabling action on REO
Plastics to September 13, 2021. Upon call of the motion by
Chair Lamothe, there were seven ayes and no nays. Motion
carried.
CONSIDERATION None.
OF ITEMS PULLED
FROM CONSENT
AGENDA
REVIEW OF THE Mr. Hogeboom reviewed with the Commission what items the City
CITY COUNCIL Council approved that was given direction at the Planning
Commission level.
MINUTES FROM
THEIR REGULAR
MEETING OF
OCTOBER 17, 2021
OLD BUSINESS
PUBLIC HEARING This item was moved to the Consent Agenda.
REO PLASTICS
KRAUS
ANDERSON
CONSTRUCTION
COMPANY
11850 93RD
AVENUE NORTH
REZONING,
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SHORT PLAT AND
COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN
AMENDMENT FOR
THE PURPOSE OF
COMBINING AN
ADJACENT
PROPERTY
NEW BUSINESS
Mr. Corrow stated the applicant is proposing a short plat for the
PUBLIC HEARING
purpose of splitting an existing 1.2-acre residential lot into two
NEAL’S ADDITION parcels. The north lot with an existing single-family home would
be reduced to a lot area of 26,401 square feet and the new lot
JON AND KATHERINE would consist of 30,513 square feet in area. The submitted plans
NEAL are consistent with the dimensional requirements of the R-2
16926 WEAVER LAKE Zoning District. The new lot is shown with a 25-foot roadway
ROAD easement that is intended to be vacated and allocated to the
property. The easement was recorded in 1967 however the
SHORT PLAT FOR
neighborhood was developed without utilizing the roadway. The
THE PURPOSE OF
city has no plans for the roadway and staff will support vacating
PLATTING THE
the easement at a future City Council meeting. The applicant has
PROPERTY INTO
been informed that the property is in a Tree Preservation Overlay
TWO PARCELS
District (T-Zone) and a tree plan will be required as part of a future
building permit review. The applicant is also aware that the new lot
is subject to Park Dedication fees and other assessments associated
with creating a new lot. Staff discussed the plans in further detail
and made the following recommendation.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION:
Motion to recommend that the City Council direct the City
Attorney to draft a Resolution approving the Neal’s Addition short
plat, subject to:
1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the city any
remaining applicable comments contained in the
memorandums from:
a. The Community & Economic Development
Department dated August 4, 2021
b. The Water Resources Engineer dated July 20, 2021
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c. The Parks & Recreation Department, dated August 4,
2021
The applicant shall acknowledge that Park Dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation to the
Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent board action.
Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each month.
Discussion
Commissioner Lindeman asked if the building plans would be
reviewed with the tree overlay district guidelines. Mr. Corrow
reported this was the case.
Commissioner Ayika questioned why the easement was not being
reviewed at this time. Mr. Corrow explained the vacation of the
easement would be reviewed by the City Council.
Commissioner Ostaffe stated the proposed building pads would be
quite high when compared to the adjacent lots and several large
trees would be lots. He inquired if this was suitable without
infringing on the neighbor’s property rights. Mr. Corrow
explained they would be regrading the site and noted the developer
could not remove more than 50% of the trees.
Commissioner Ostaffe reported these properties were platted to be
larger in this area because of the hill and large trees. He
questioned why this was done. Mr. Corrow reported this property
was platted in 1967 and noted a grid pattern was planned for the
area. He stated the lots to the south are smaller and the
neighboring lots are larger. He indicated he was uncertain as to
why this was platted this way.
Commissioner Ostaffe reported cutting this lot in half would
significantly reduce the lot size compared to the surrounding lots.
Mr. Corrow stated the new lots would be on par with the lots to the
south.
Commissioner Ayika discussed how close the existing home was to
the property line.
The applicant was at the meeting to answer questions.
John Neal, 16926 Weaver Lake Drive, thanked staff for the
detailed presentation and stated he appreciated all of staff’s help
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through this process. He indicated he was available for questions
or comments.
Commissioner Piket questioned what type of structure would be
built on the new lot. Mr. Neal indicated he does not have any plans
solidified, but was proposing to build a one level living home with
a garage.
Commissioner Ayika reported there were a lot of trees in this area
and noted the property owner could not remove more than 50% of
the trees. Mr. Neal stated he attempted to count the trees on the site
once, and noted he understood the area was very wooded. He
explained he was hoping to utilize the access to the garage in order
to reduce the number of trees that would have to be removed.
Commissioner Ostaffe discussed the grade of the property. Mr.
Corrow explained a detailed survey of the property would be
provided to staff with the building permit.
Commissioner Ostaffe questioned if the existing garage at the
southeast corner of the property would remain or would this be
torn down. Mr. Corrow stated it could remain or this garage could
be removed to make room for the new structure.
Chair Lamothe commented on the setbacks and requested staff
speak to the setbacks for this subdivision when compared to the
neighbors to the south and southeast. Mr. Corrow reported there
should be a five-foot setback. He explained the house to the south
was on an easement and this would be cleaned up through the
proposed replatting.
Chair Lamothe opened the public hearing at 7:23 p.m.
The public was asked by Chair Lamothe if they had any comments
to make regarding this application.
Jess Wadleigh, 16916 Weaver Lake Drive, reported she just moved
into her home seven weeks ago and lives directly south of the
proposed lot. She stated she loves the trees on her lot and the
surrounding lot. She indicated she fully supported families taking
care of their parents and family. She explained she got along with
her neighbors, but asked when the first discussion occurred for this
subdivision and build.
Mr. Corrow stated the City received an application on July 12,
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2021. Prior to that time, Mr. Neal had reached out to City staff
about the short plat process.
Ms. Wadleigh questioned if the previous sellers knew this might be
occurring before they sold their home.
Mr. Neal indicated the previous neighbors were aware.
Ms. Wadleigh commented she may not have purchased her home
knowing what she knows now. She reported this change would
alter her property tremendously. She stated she had the
understanding the trees on the adjacent lot were protected and has
now learned up to 50% of the trees could be removed. She
understood John and Katy were respectful neighbors who were
open to discussing this project. She explained that without plans
fully done for the site, she would continue to have questions about
what would happen. She reported she understood the trees would
be affected and this was a tremendous disappointment to her
because this would impact her. She understood a driveway would
have to be installed, and given the grade of the property, more trees
would be impacted. She commented there was some water damage
to her home when she purchased it. She feared that changing the
grade of the adjacent property could further put her home at risk
for more water damage. She indicated the proposed driveway
would go past her home, which was another concern because this
car would be driving past her home. She explained again that she
supported the neighbors helping their parents, but stated the
proposed project would greatly impact the use and enjoyment of
her home. She commented she worked from home and her office
faced the neighbor’s property. She discussed how she would be
adversely impacted by the construction and passing vehicles going
to and from this property. She stated she was feeling blindsided by
this project just seven weeks after moving into her home. She
indicated her last concern was that the new home could be turned
into a rental property in the future which would adversely impact
her family. She encouraged the City to reconsider this request,
because she feared approving this request would open up the entire
neighborhood for further subdivisions and short plats which would
destroy the trees and quiet neighborhood she loves.
Commissioner Ayika asked if Ms. Wadleigh was concerned about
the trees on her property or the neighboring property. Ms.
Wadleigh explained she was concerned about the trees on the
easement knowing they would now be released to the neighbor and
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50% could be removed.
John Ruhoff, 8553 Dunkirk Lane, explained he owned the property
east and south of the proposed short plat. He discussed the
easement vacation and asked if this land would be vacated all the
way to Dunkirk Lane. Mr. Corrow reported the City’s plan was to
vacate this land all the way to Dunkirk Lane.
Mr. Ruhoff questioned what would happen to this property. Mr.
Corrow stated the two properties to the north would reclaim the
easement area.
Mr. Ruhoff asked if there was a minimum lot size or home size in
Maple Grove. Mr. Corrow indicated the minimum lot size was
10,000 square feet. He stated the City has no minimum home size
requirements.
Mr. Ruhoff explained he did not support this project moving
forward because the new home would not be in keeping with the
character and intent of the neighborhood. He stated he could only
support this project if the new home was in keeping in line with the
existing homes.
Ronald Lucas, 16923 Weaver Lake Drive, stated he lived directly
across the street from the proposed short plat. He explained he
spoke with Jon Neal about the request and indicated he has
concerns with how the new lot would be accessed given the grade
of the property. He questioned how the topography would be
changed in order to allow access to the new lot. He anticipated the
new lot would need retaining walls which would change the look
of the lot. He noted he spoke with the City earlier today about the
timeframe for this project and stated he was concerned with how
long it would take to construct a new home. He understood Mr.
Neal was looking to help his in-laws, but indicated was concerned
with the logistics and aesthetics of the project. He reported he has
been in his home since 1968 and commented he really appreciated
the trees in the area.
Tony Barga-Samson, 16929 Weaver Lake Drive, explained she
moved to her home 26 years ago. She stated she appreciated the
value Maple Grove had placed on its trees. She reported she has
raised two kids in her home and she has an emotional connection
to the wooded area. She requested the City consider the value of
this wooded area to the neighborhood.
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Nicole Moretine, 16916 Weaver Lake Drive, reported she was
concerned with how the new home would impact her home. She
expressed frustration with the fact her family’s happiness would be
torn down by the proposed plan. She stated she loved the trees in
her neighborhood and wanted to be happy in her home. She was of
the opinion the request was unjust and unfair. She feared her
family was getting the raw end of this deal. She requested further
information regarding the easement and how the land would be
split. Mr. Corrow explained the City Attorney reviewed the
easement language and reported the underlying property was the
subject property for this easement.
Chair Lamothe stated the land for this easement had been set aside
for a future roadway connection. He reported the entirety of the
easement resides on the property to the north and the property
directly to the east. Mr. Corrow reported this was the case. City
Attorney Landsman explained in a vacation process, the purpose
for which an easement was granted was considered and if the
easement no longer serves that public purpose, the City may vacate
that easement. He advised the City has no control where the land
goes and the City must look to the centerline within the plat. He
reported with this easement, the easement was created via a
separate easement document creating Outlot H. He commented
further on the 25-foot easement document that was created for this
lot.
Mr. Ruhoff asked if there was originally a 50-foot easement in
place and the southern portion was never documented. City
Attorney Landsman advised he has not seen the application for the
easement vacation, but has done a preliminary review of some of
the documents. He explained he does not complete a title review
for easement vacation requests. He stated he cannot provide an
opinion on that. However, for the specific lot, this land was put
into a separate easement document that was 25 feet side. He
reiterated that the easement was not the purpose or request before
the Planning Commission. He indicated the easement vacation
would be coming before the City Council at a future meeting.
Mr. Ruhoff expressed concern with the vacation of the easement
and how the surrounding properties would be impacted.
Commissioner Ayika stated the easement in question appears to
have been specifically given to this property.
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Lorraine Lucas, 16923 Weaver Lake Drive, discussed the
topography on the subject property and questioned how City water
and sewer would be brought onto the lot without destroying all of
the trees.
Motion by Chair Lamothe, seconded by Commissioner Lenthe,
to close the public hearing at 7:58 p.m. Upon call of the
motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven ayes and no nays.
Motion carried.
Motion by Commissioner Lenthe, seconded by Commissioner
Klein, to recommend that the City Council direct the City
Attorney to draft a Resolution approving the Neal’s Addition
short plat, subject to:
1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the city
any remaining applicable comments contained in the
memorandums from:
a. The Community & Economic Development
Department dated August 4, 2021
b. The Water Resources Engineer dated July 20, 2021
c. The Parks & Recreation Department, dated August
4, 2021
The applicant shall acknowledge that Park Dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation
to the Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent board
action. Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each
month.
Commissioner Lindeman asked if the grading concerns that the
neighbors have raised would be handled with the building plans.
Mr. Corrow stated a full grading plan and site survey will be
submitted with the building plans.
Commissioner Lindeman questioned if drainage would also be
addressed. Mr. Corrow reported this was the case.
Commissioner Piket indicated the Commission was being asked to
consider the platting of two lots and the process for the build
would be reviewed by City staff. Mr. Corrow stated this was
correct.
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Commissioner Lenthe asked if utilities were already installed,
given the fact this lot could be subdivided. Mr. Corrow commented
it was his understanding utilities were available at the street.
Commissioner Ostaffe commented on the easement and discussed
how the neighbors would be impacted. He indicated there was a lot
of confusion regarding the easement and this was concerning to
him.
Chair Lamothe stated an easement can exist without a plat. He
discussed how this easement was showing up on only the northerly
properties. He commented further on the location of the easement
and reiterated that this matter would be considered by the City
Council.
Mr. Corrow indicated the easement was a separate factor that
would be addressed by the City Council. He stated without the
easement, the property could be subdivided and still meet the
City’s zoning standards.
Commissioner Ayika reported with or without the easement, the
subdivision still meets the City’s requirements for a short plat. He
stated releasing the easement would just be cleaning up old
documents.
Commissioner Piket explained the Commission was being asked to
approve a short plat, but there were still several hurdles in place
before this project could move forward.
Commissioner Klein discussed Attachment C and stated she was
concerned with the fact the south end of Lot 2 depicts the
easement. She questioned if this plat could be approved without
vacating the easement first. Mr. Corrow deferred this question to
the City Attorney. City Attorney Landsman stated it was his
understanding there was building pad available with or without the
easement. He explained if there was a concern from the
Commission, a condition for approval could be made to have the
final plat contingent upon the easement vacation. He indicated
when he drafts a Resolution for approval there would be a list of
conditions and with this case if the conditions are not met, the final
plat would not be released for recording. Likewise, if the vacation
is approved, this will require the final plat to be recorded. He stated
the Commission could make this a condition for approval and if
the Council agrees, this could be made a condition for final plat
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release. He reported the easement vacation would have a separate
public hearing and notices would be sent out.
Commissioner Lindeman stated she was not supportive of putting
the vacation easement requirement within the short plat. However,
after looking at the neighboring properties, she explained she did
not believe the short plat changed the character of the
neighborhood enough to not offer her support.
Commissioner Piket agreed stating he did not support putting a
condition to remove the easement within the short plat. He
recommended this be handled under a separate process.
Commissioner Ayika stated he was concerned with the type of
structure that would be constructed on the new lot and hoped that
the applicant would construct a home that was in keeping with the
character of the neighborhood. He reminded the public that the
proposed new lot met all of the City’s requirements and explained
this property could be subdivided. He indicated this meant that up
to 50% of the trees could also be removed. He understood this was
tough, but noted the property owner had the right to subdivide and
build on this lot. He reported the grading would be reviewed by
City staff to ensure the neighbors would not be impacted.
Chair Lamothe commented the Commission’s lane was quite
narrow when it came to this request. He encouraged the applicant
to consider the concerns that have been raised by the neighbors. He
suggested the Mr. Neal consider sharing a driveway in order to
reduce the tree loss and that a home be built that was in keeping
with the character of the neighborhood.
Upon call of the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven
ayes and no nays. Motion carried.
DISCUSSION ITEMS There were no discussion items.
ADJOURNMENT Motion by Chair Lamothe, seconded by Commissioner Piket,
to adjourn the Planning Commission meeting. Upon call of
the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven ayes and no
nays. Motion carried.
Chair Lamothe adjourned the meeting at 8:22 p.m. to the next
regularly scheduled meeting of the Planning Commission
scheduled for August 30, 2021.
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