Planning Commission
Regular MeetingMaple Grove, MN · March 14, 2022
Minutes
MAPLE GROVE
PLANNING COMMISSION
March 14, 2022
CALL TO ORDER A meeting of the Maple Grove Planning Commission was held at 7
p.m. on March 14, 2022 at the Maple Grove City Hall, Hennepin
County, Minnesota. Chair Lamothe called the meeting to order at 7
p.m.
PLEDGE OF
ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL Planning Commission members present were Chair Craig
Lamothe, Chris Ayika, Lorie Klein, Susan Lindeman, Chuck
Lenthe, Michael Ostaffe, and Joe Piket. Present also were Karen
Jaeger, City Council Liaison; Joe Hogeboom, Community and
Economic Development Director; and Justin Templin, City
Attorney.
ITEMS TO BE None.
REMOVED FROM
THE AGENDA
CONSENT ITEMS The following Consent Items were presented for the Commission’s
approval:
MINUTES
A. Regular Meeting – February 28, 2022
Motion by Commissioner Lindeman, seconded by
Commissioner Ayika, to approve the Consent Items as
presented. Upon call of the motion by Chair Lamothe, there
were seven ayes and no nays. Motion carried.
CONSIDERATION None.
OF ITEMS PULLED
FROM CONSENT
AGENDA
REVIEW OF THE Mr. Hogeboom reviewed with the Commission what items the City
CITY COUNCIL Council approved that was given direction at the Planning
Commission level. He reminded the Commission there would be a
MINUTES FROM
joint Planning Commission/Park Board/City Council meeting on
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THEIR REGULAR Monday, April 18 at 6 p.m. to discuss the Territorial Road Master
MEETING OF Plan.
MARCH 7, 2022
OLD BUSINESS
PUBLIC HEARING Motion by Commissioner Piket, seconded by Commissioner
Lenthe, to remove this item from the table. Upon call of the
WESTON motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven ayes and no nays.
COMMONS 2ND Motion carried.
ADDITION Mr. Hogeboom stated this item was continued from the February
14 Planning Commission meeting. He explained the applicant is
U.S. HOME requesting PUD concept plan, development plan, rezoning,
CORPORATION, preliminary and final plat approval to construct 82 row-style
DBA LENNAR townhomes. This is the second addition and companion property
to the recently approved Weston Commons neighborhood directly
16232 105TH to the east. The two additions will function as a single, unified
AVENUE NORTH neighborhood. The site is 15.5 gross acres in size with 1.6 acres of
wetlands for a net acreage of 13.9 acres. The proposed density is
PUD CONCEPT 5.9 units per acre, consistent with the medium density residential
STAGE PLAN, guiding of the property which allows four-10 units per acre. The
applicant has stated in their narrative that a portion of the units will
DEVELOPMENT
be sold to Lennar single-family rentals. It was noted the developer
STAGE PLAN, did not indicate the breakdown between rentals and for-sale units
REZONING, within this development. Staff discussed the plans in further detail
PRELIMINARY and made the following recommendation.
AND FINAL PLAT
FOR A STAFF RECOMMENDATION:
NEIGHBORHOOD
CONSISTING OF 82 Motion to recommend that the City Council direct the City
Attorney to draft a Resolution and a Planned Unit Development
TOWNHOMES
agreement approving the Weston Commons 2nd Addition Planned
Unit Development concept stage plan, development stage plan,
preliminary and final plat subject to:
1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the city any
remaining applicable
comments contained in the memorandums from:
a. The Community & Economic Development
Department dated February 8, 2022
b. The Engineering Department dated December 17,
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2021
c. The Fire Department dated January 25, 2022
d. The Parks & Recreation Department, dated January
24, 2022
Motion to recommend that the City Council direct the City
Attorney to draft an Ordinance approving the rezoning from RA,
Single-Family Agricultural to R4-PUD.
The applicant shall acknowledge that Park Dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation to the
Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent board action.
Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each month.
Discussion
Commissioner Lindeman noted there were only seven off street
parking stalls within this development. She asked if parking would
be a concern within this development and questioned if overnight
parking was allowed on private streets. Mr. Hogeboom commented
overnight parking would be allowed on private drives, but would
not be allowed on public streets. He explained each unit had two
garage stalls and a driveway. He encouraged the applicant to
speak further to the parking within this development.
Chair Lamothe inquired how many bedrooms were included within
each unit. Mr. Hogeboom deferred this question to the applicant.
The applicant was at the meeting to answer questions.
Paul Tabone, Lennar representative, reported all floor plans
typically have three bedrooms and two baths. He stated he
understood the public was concerned about the number of rental
units. He indicated the neighbors would like there to be some type
of disclosure or notification process in place if rental units were
pursued. He reported he was not obligated to, but this was Lennar’s
standard practice because it allows everyone to know what they
were buying into should some of the units convert into rentals. He
then discussed how the home owners association would function.
He commented on how all units would have to be maintained to a
certain level within the Lennar development. He stated it was very
difficult for builders to keep prices down due to the rising costs of
building materials.
Commissioner Lenthe requested further comment regarding the
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number of parking stalls within the development. Mr. Tabone
reported each unit would have a two car garage and a 25 foot long
driveway. He explained on-street parking would be allowed on one
side of the street during the day which would assist residents in
accommodating guests for a family event or gathering.
Commissioner Lenthe questioned if the HOA would have an
ability to control parking should a resident exceed the number of
parking spaces available on their property. Mr. Tabone stated there
were provisions regarding vehicles and the number that were
allowed.
Commissioner Ostaffe inquired what the price was for the Weston
Commons Phase I units that were currently under construction.
Mr. Tabone commented he believed these units were starting in the
mid-$300,000’s.
Commissioner Ostaffe expressed concern with this information
noting he called today and was told there were no starting prices
for these single-family homes. He was told this information would
not be available till this fall. Mr. Tabone stated he heard from sales
folks today and it was his understanding that no units had been
sold to LSFR within Phase I. He reported it was his understanding
the back to back units were more desirable for rentals than the end
units.
Commissioner Ostaffe reported in a letter from Mr. Tabone dated
December 14, 2021 to Mr. Vickerman in the second paragraph it
states a portion of the townhomes within Weston Commons 1st
Addition have already been sold to LSFR as rentals. Mr. Tabone
indicated he was provided with misinformation and he misspoke.
He apologized for this. He stated as of this morning he learned no
units have been sold.
Commissioner Piket explained if any more thought had been put
into the percentage split between rental and owner occupied units
for the 2nd addition. Mr. Tabone stated he still didn’t have a clear
answer on this. He understood that the more dense units were
desirable for rentals, but commented the market was ever
changing.
Commissioner Ayika indicated the applicant addressed most of the
issues that were brought up at the February 14 meeting. He stated
the Commission wants to know more about the split. He had
hoped the applicant would respond with an answer on the
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percentage of units that would be rental. Mr. Tabone reported he
was not trying to keep this information from the city and indicated
LSFR was something new to the Lennar family. He commented he
has not received a clear answer because this project was in its early
planning phases.
Commissioner Ayika stated he found it difficult to believe Lennar
had no idea how this project would be split between rental and
owner occupied. He understood the applicant could proceed
because all City Codes were being followed, however, he wished
this was not the manner in which the applicant would proceed. He
believed it was sad that Lennar was not being up front with this
information. Mr. Tabone apologized for the lack of information.
He explained he would follow up with this question and would
report back to the Commission when he has an answer.
Commissioner Ostaffe indicated he drove by the site this morning
and noted the sign stated single-family homes, but did not state this
was a rental community. He recommended this information be
disclosed to the public. Mr. Tabone commented on the disclosure
that was included within the HOA documents stating units could
be rented out. He reported it was Lennar’s intent to make this a
high quality development in order to keep the price of all units
high.
Chair Lamothe opened the public hearing at 7:25 p.m.
The public was asked by Chair Lamothe if they had any comments
to make regarding this application.
No one wished to address the Commission.
Motion by Commissioner Lenthe, seconded by Commissioner
Lindeman, to close the public hearing at 7:26 p.m. Upon call
of the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven ayes and no
nays. Motion carried.
Motion by Commissioner Lenthe, seconded by Commissioner
Klein, to recommend that the City Council direct the City
Attorney to draft a Resolution and a Planned Unit
Development agreement approving the Weston Commons 2nd
Addition Planned Unit Development concept stage plan,
development stage plan, preliminary and final plat subject to:
1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the city
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any remaining applicable comments contained in the
memorandums from:
a. The Community & Economic Development
Department dated February 8, 2022
b. The Engineering Department dated December 17,
2021
c. The Fire Department dated January 25, 2022
d. The Parks & Recreation Department, dated
January 24, 2022
Commissioner Ostaffe stated he was very concerned with the fact
the Commission was moving a second project forward just because
the 1st Addition was approved. He indicated the cCity was not told
the 1st Addition was going to be rentals and now that the city
knows there could be rentals, this project should be reconsidered.
He explained he would not be supporting this project moving
forward. He reported if this were to be a rental community
additional amenities should be included.
Commissioner Ayika commented as much as he was disappointed
by the applicant’s response he believed this was quality project and
there was nothing the Commission could do to deny the project. It
was his hope that the rental units would be managed very well.
Chair Lamothe indicated he would be supporting the project, even
though he was not satisfied with the whole situation. He stated
after hearing from staff and the Councilmembers, he understood
this issue and the potential for this product to go from owner
occupied to rental was on staff’s radar. He explained he was
shocked by the low fees the city charged per unit and commented
further on the number of rental units the city had coming online in
the next two to five years. He believed the city had to get a handle
on this issue before it got even further out of control. He urged the
applicant to be more transparent and forthright with the fact this
would be a rental community, other than just within the disclosure
documents.
Commissioner Piket stated his concern was with the lack of clear
understanding what the rental/owner occupied mix would be for
this development. He believed those buying into this community
should have an idea what this mix would be.
Commissioner Lenthe asked if the city could increase the
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knowledge or disclosures that were passed along to future owners.
City Attorney Templin advised this would be difficult to enforce
without altering City Code.
Commissioner Ostaffe reported Summerwell, a planned rental
community that had 220 units, would have 80 to 100 off street
parking stalls. He indicated the proposed development would have
less than 10, which was a concern for him. He noted Summerwell
would have a tot lot, pool, full time rental manager and other
amenities. He indicated the proposed development did not have
any of these amenities. He feared with the unknowns on the
proposed development, the city was giving up its planning
authority to the developer.
Chair Lamothe called the question.
Upon call of the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were six ayes
and one nay (Commissioner Ostaffe opposed). Motion carried.
Motion by Commissioner Lenthe, seconded by Commissioner
Lindeman, to recommend that the City Council direct the City
Attorney to draft an Ordinance approving the rezoning from
RA, Single-Family Agricultural to R4-PUD.
The applicant shall acknowledge that Park Dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation
to the Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent board
action. Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each
month.
Upon call of the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were six ayes
and one nay (Commissioner Ostaffe opposed). Motion
carried.
NEW BUSINESS No items to present.
DISCUSSION There were no discussion items.
ITEMS
ADJOURNMENT Motion by Chair Lamothe, seconded by Commissioner Ayika,
to adjourn the Planning Commission meeting. Upon call of
the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven ayes and no
nays. Motion carried.
Chair Lamothe adjourned the meeting at 7:39 p.m. to the next
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regularly scheduled meeting of the Planning Commission
scheduled for March 28, 2022.
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