Planning Commission
Regular MeetingMaple Grove, MN · November 14, 2022
Minutes
MAPLE GROVE
PLANNING COMMISSION
November 14, 2022
CALL TO ORDER A meeting of the Maple Grove Planning Commission was held at
7:00 p.m. on November 14, 2022 at the Maple Grove City Hall,
Hennepin County, Minnesota. Chair Lamothe called the meeting to
order at 7:00 p.m.
PLEDGE OF
ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL Planning Commission members present were Chair Craig
Lamothe, Chris Ayika, Lorie Klein, Susan Lindeman, Chuck
Lenthe, Michael Ostaffe, and Joe Piket. Present also were Peter
Vickerman, Planning Manager; Jesse Corrow, Associate Planner;
Brett Angell, Assistant Community and Economic Development
Director; and Scott Landsman, City Attorney.
ITEMS TO BE Chair Lamothe requested the Planning Commission discuss New
REMOVED FROM Business Item 7B before Item 7A.
THE AGENDA Motion by Chair Lamothe, seconded by Commissioner Piket,
to amend the agenda placing New Business Item 7B before
Item 7A. Upon call of the motion by Chair Lamothe, there
were seven ayes and no nays. Motion carried.
CONSENT ITEMS The following Consent Items were presented for the Commission’s
approval:
MINUTES
A. Regular Meeting – October 10, 2022
Motion by Commissioner Ostaffe, seconded by Commissioner
Ayika, to approve the Consent Items as presented. Upon call
of the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven ayes and no
nays. Motion carried.
CONSIDERATION None.
OF ITEMS PULLED
FROM CONSENT
AGENDA
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REVIEW OF THE Mr. Angell reviewed with the Commission what items the City
CITY COUNCIL Council approved that was given direction at the Planning
Commission level.
MINUTES FROM
THEIR REGULAR
MEETING OF
NOVEMBER 7,
2022
OLD BUSINESS No items to present.
NEW BUSINESS
PUBLIC HEARING Mr. Angell stated Sperides Reiners Architects, applicant, are
seeking a comprehensive plan amendment, PUD concept stage
DENTAL plan, development stage plan, rezoning, and final plat approval to
ASSOCIATES OF accommodate a new 13,606 square foot dental office building. The
MAPLE GROVE proposed development would be located on a portion of the Maple
Grove Covenant Church property at 9350 Upland Lane North. The
SPERIDES applicant did host a neighborhood meeting on Tuesday, October
REINERS 25, 2022 at Maple Grove Covenant Church regarding this
ARCHITECTS development. The plat request for the proposed development
includes the creation of an additional 2.5-acre lot on the northern
9350 UPLAND portion of the lot. This area of their lot is currently being utilized as
LANE NORTH greenspace and is primarily grass. The approximately 9.2-acres of
13,606 SQUARE remaining land would be retained by Maple Grove Covenant
Church and the parcel would continue to operate as a religious
FOOT MEDICAL
institution. Staff discussed the plans in further detail and made the
OFFICE BUILDING following recommendation.
ON NORTHERN
PART OF STAFF RECOMMENDATION:
EXISTING
CHURCH SITE Motion to recommend that the City Council direct the City
Attorney to draft a resolution and a Planned Unit Development
agreement approving the Dental Associations of Maple Grove
comprehensive plan amendment, planned unit development
concept stage plan, development stage plan, rezoning, and final
plat subject to:
1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the city any
remaining applicable comments contained in the
memorandums from:
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November 14, 2022
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a. The Community & Economic Development
Department dated October 12, 2022
b. The Engineering Department dated November 14, 2022
c. The Fire Department dated October 10, 2022
d. The Parks & Recreation Department, dated November
3, 2022
The applicant shall acknowledge that Park Dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation to the
Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent board action.
Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each month.
Discussion
Commissioner Piket asked if the mature trees on the perimeter of
the property would be removed. Mr. Angell discussed the tree
removal plan in further detail with the Commission. He explained
the trees on the east side of the property line would be maintained.
Commissioner Lenthe requested further information regarding the
driveway location. Mr. Angell reported the driveway location has
been reviewed by the City’s traffic engineer and noted the
driveway would not align with the school.
Commissioner Lenthe questioned if there was a swale along the
sidewalk along Upland Lane. Mr. Angell stated this was the case.
Commissioner Ayika inquired if the handicap parking had been
adjusted. Mr. Angell reported the applicant was required to
include one additional handicap parking space in order to meet
ADA requirements.
Commissioner Ostaffe asked what type of lighting was being
proposed for the site. Mr. Angell commented on the lighting plan
and noted any challenges with lighting would be blocked by the
berm and landscaping on the east side.
Chair Lamothe questioned how many parking spaces City Code
would require for this building. Mr. Angell stated he did not have
this information in front of him, but noted the building was
overparked per City parking requirements.
Chair Lamothe indicated he did not believe it was necessary for
the site to have 121 parking spaces. Mr. Angell suggested the
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applicant speak further on this matter.
The applicant was at the meeting to answer questions.
Steve Miller, MSP Commercial, introduced himself to the
Commission.
Eric Reiners, SRA, addressed the parking issue. He explained the
dentists hope to provide adequate or ample parking for patients and
waiting patients.
Chair Lamothe questioned how many total chairs the dental office
would have after Phase 2 was completed. Mr. Reiners indicated the
dental office would have 28 total chairs.
Mr. Reiners commented further on the proposed lighting plan and
noted the site would have shielded light fixtures in order to limit
the bleed off the site.
Commissioner Ostaffe inquired how long it would take to build out
the entire building. Mr. Reiners reported this was yet to be
determined, noting this would depend on the market.
Chair Lamothe opened the public hearing at 7:18 p.m.
The public was asked by Chair Lamothe if they had any comments
to make regarding this application.
No one wished to address the Commission.
Motion by Chair Lamothe, seconded by Commissioner Lenthe,
to close the public hearing at 7:19 p.m. Upon call of the
motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven ayes and no nays.
Motion carried.
Motion by Commissioner Ayika, seconded by Commissioner
Piket, to recommend that the City Council direct the City
Attorney to draft a resolution and a Planned Unit Development
agreement approving the Dental Associations of Maple Grove
comprehensive plan amendment, planned unit development
concept stage plan, development stage plan, rezoning, and final
plat subject to:
1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the city
any remaining applicable comments contained in the
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memorandums from:
a. The Community & Economic Development
Department dated October 12, 2022
b. The Engineering Department dated November 14,
2022
c. The Fire Department dated October 10, 2022
d. The Parks & Recreation Department, dated
November 3, 2022
The applicant shall acknowledge that Park Dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation
to the Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent board
action. Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each
month.
Chair Lamothe explained he would be supporting the request but
noted he was concerned about the excessive amount of parking.
Upon call of the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven
ayes and no nays. Motion carried.
Mr. Vickerman stated the applicant is requesting PUD concept
PUBLIC HEARING stage plan approval for a 121-unit residential development on
approximately 40 net acres of land. The applicant is proposing 55
BELLA WOODS single family detached lots, generally in the center and eastern
US HOME, LLC portion of the site and 66 townhomes closer to County Road 101.
(LENNAR) The detached lots are proposed to be 65 feet in width. The
proposal is in the Northwest-610 Master Plan area and is generally
10350 BROCKTON west of the recently approved Evanswood development. There are
LANE NORTH two main areas of development with a large, preserved forested
area between them. Staff discussed the plans in further detail and
127 UNIT (56 made the following recommendation.
DETACHED, 70
ATTACHED) STAFF RECOMMENDATION:
RESIDENTIAL
Motion to recommend that the City Council direct the City
DEVELOPMENT
Attorney to draft a resolution and a Planned Unit Development
agreement approving the Bella Woods planned unit development
concept stage plan subject to:
1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the city any
remaining applicable comments contained in the
memorandums from:
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November 14, 2022
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a. The Community & Economic Development
Department dated November 6, 2022
b. The Water Resources Engineer dated October 5, 2022
c. The Fire Department dated October 6, 2022
d. The Parks & Recreation Department, dated November
8, 2022
The applicant shall acknowledge that Park Dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation to the
Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent board action.
Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each month.
Discussion
Commissioner Piket asked if the development would include any
pedestrian walkways or sidewalks. Mr. Vickerman explained the
development would have sidewalks on both sides of the streets. He
indicated the black lines on the plans indicated the conceptual trail
locations.
Commissioner Ostaffe requested further information regarding the
lot sizes. Mr. Vickerman noted the lots would be approximately 65
feet wide and 130 feet deep.
Commissioner Ostaffe stated he was concerned with the proposed
lot size, noting these were smaller than what was typically
approved by the City. He questioned what the setback
requirements were for the homes. Mr. Vickerman stated the
setbacks would be five and ten feet, which meant there would be 15
feet between the homes.
Commissioner Ostaffe inquired if the streets running through the
development would be public. Mr. Vickerman discussed which
streets in the development would be public and which would be
private.
Commissioner Ostaffe questioned how many of the proposed
townhouse units would be rental. Mr. Vickerman stated the
developer has indicated none of the units would be rental.
Commissioner Klein asked if the Commission would be approving
a PUD agreement at this time. Mr. Vickerman explained this
would not be approved until the Commission was considering the
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development stage plan.
Commissioner Lenthe stated he was generally satisfied with the
northeast portion of the development. He noted the southeast
portion of the development raised questions for him. He indicated
there was no space for outdoor recreation and recommended the
developer be required to provide a tot lot in this area. He
explained he was also concerned about the two parcels east of this
development. He recommended parking and a turnaround be
considered for the 24 townhomes on the south end in order to
better serve delivery vehicles and guests.
Commissioner Ostaffe agreed a turnaround in the southern area
would be beneficial, along with the need for an outdoor
recreational space. He asked what percentage of the T-zone was
being preserved on this property. Mr. Vickerman reported 75% of
the T-zone was being preserved.
Chair Lamothe asked if the “bubble” or “handle” was a new thing
for Maple Grove given the fact this was a public street. Mr.
Vickerman stated the City has these within the community without
the center area.
The applicant was at the meeting to answer questions.
Paul Tabone, Lennar Homes representative, thanked staff for the
detailed staff report. He explained he would be considering adding
recreation space for the development and noted he would also look
into adding guest parking near the Liberty townhomes. He
discussed how challenging the housing market was at this time but
noted there was a market for both attached and detached
townhomes at this time. He stated his intention would be to make
adjustments to the plans based on the Commissions comments in
order to assist him with submitting his preliminary plat in hopes of
going through the City approval process in early 2023. He
explained he understood the concerns regarding the narrow lots,
but noted this was becoming quite common in todays housing
market due to rising building costs.
Commissioner Piket asked what the square footage would be for
the detached single family homes and what the price points would
be. Mr. Tabone stated he was seeing new construction homes
around 2,500 square feet with a price point of $600,000. He
indicated the townhomes would be around 1,600 to 1,800 square
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feet and the price would be $400,000.
Commissioner Ostaffe reported there was a demand for housing in
Maple Grove. He expressed concern with the number of
townhomes that were being built in Maple Grove at this time. He
discussed how townhomes ran the risk of becoming rentals in the
future. Mr. Tabone reported the HOA documents would address
rentals. He reiterated that at this time, the intention was for all of
the units to be for sale and not rental.
Commissioner Lindeman asked if the City Council still had a
rental moratorium in place. Mr. Vickerman reported this was the
case.
Commissioner Ostaffe supported the developer putting language in
place within the HOA documents that would put a cap on rentals.
Chair Lamothe opened the public hearing at 7:56 p.m.
The public was asked by Chair Lamothe if they had any comments
to make regarding this application.
Jim Hou, KOA Campground owner, explained his family has
owned this property for the past 49 years. He understood growth
and development was a positive thing for Maple Grove. He
discussed he amenities that were offered on the KOA property and
recommended the new development have their own playground.
He discussed how he did not want the new development to
negatively impact his business. He questioned how the proposed
development would be separated from his property and asked if 65
foot wide lots would be the standard. He requested further
information regarding the T-zone and the right-of-way property.
Mr. Vickerman discussed the location of the T-zone and noted it
was not within code to provide screening from one residential
property to another. He commented further on the location of the
Hennepin County right-of-way and noted this property would not
impact the development. He stated the City understands the KOA
abuts this development, and noted the KOA could put a buffer in
place to screen the new townhomes.
Mr. Hou thanked the Commission and staff for the feedback.
Commissioner Piket requested further information on how the
KOA property was used throughout the summer months. Mr. Hou
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explained his busiest time was Memorial Day weekend through
Labor Day. He noted the vast majority of his guests stay in RV’s,
but noted he also has test sites and cabins. He reported he has a
9:00 p.m. quiet hour. He stated he would welcome any calls or
concerns regarding noise.
Commissioner Ostaffe suggested the developer be required to
install a fence along the KOA property line to ensure children are
not allowed onto that property because there was an outdoor pool.
Mr. Hou stated this was a concern for him.
Commissioner Piket questioned if the pool was fenced and drained
in the winter. Mr. Hou reported the pooled was fenced, opened to
the elements, and was drained slightly.
Motion by Chair Lamothe, seconded by Commissioner
Lindeman, to close the public hearing at 8:11 p.m. Upon call
of the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven ayes and no
nays. Motion carried.
Commissioner Ayika requested further information regarding the
proposed cul-de-sac. Mr. Vickerman discussed the plans for the
temporary cul-de-sac noting additional signage could be
considered.
Commissioner Ayika asked if the developer would consider
installing a fence along the KOA property line. Mr. Tabone stated
he could look at what would be feasible for screening along the
north property line. He explained he could disclose to new owners
what type of business was occurring on the property to the north.
Commissioner Lindeman supported a privacy fence being installed
along the KOA property line as well.
Motion by Commissioner Klein, seconded by Commissioner
Ayika, to recommend that the City Council direct the City
Attorney to draft a resolution approving the Bella Woods
planned unit development concept stage plan subject to:
1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the city
any remaining applicable comments contained in the
memorandums from:
a. The Community & Economic Development
Department dated November 6, 2022
Maple Grove Planning Commission
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b. The Water Resources Engineer dated October 5,
2022
c. The Fire Department dated October 6, 2022
d. The Parks & Recreation Department, dated
November 8, 2022
The applicant shall acknowledge that Park Dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation
to the Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent board
action. Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each
month.
Commissioner Lenthe stated he would like to see a fence installed
by the developer. He proposed an amendment to the motion that
would also require the developer to install a common greenspace
with playground area in the townhome complex. In addition, he
wanted to see parking and turnarounds at the end of the two
driveways in the south townhome area. Lastly, he recommended
the parcel that is left to be developed have a street extended in
order to provide future access.
Amendment by Commissioner Lenthe, seconded by Chair
Lamothe, to require the developer to install a common
greenspace with playground area in the townhome complex,
that there be parking and turnarounds at the end of the two
driveways in the southern townhome area, and that the parcel
that is left to be developed have a street extended in order to
provide future access.
Chair Lamothe stated he was not on board with forcing the
developer to lose a lot, in order to provide another street extension.
However, he understood the concern being raised by Commission
Lenthe. He suggested staff provide the Council with information
on how the two lots to the south would be ghost platted in order to
not require this additional roadway extension. Mr. Vickerman
supported the Commission proceeding in this manner.
Amendment by Commissioner Lenthe, seconded by Chair
Lamothe, to require the developer to install a common
greenspace with playground area in the townhome complex,
that there be parking and turnarounds at the end of the two
driveways in the southern townhome area, and that the two
parcels to the south be ghost platted in a manner that was
acceptable to staff and the City, with access right-of-way being
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adjusted at the time of Development Stage Plan.
Chair Lamothe encouraged the developer to be a good neighbor
and to install some sort of privacy fence in order to keep headlight
wash out of the KOA campground.
Commissioner Piket indicated there may be enough trees in this
area to block the headlight wash.
Chair Lamothe recommended staff investigate this further to
ensure headlight wash was not spilling from the proposed
development into the KOA campground.
Commissioner Ostaffe recommended a fence be installed along the
property line.
Commissioner Piket questioned if a fence could be installed in a
T-zone.
Commissioner Lindeman reported she did not want the fence to be
a requirement, but she wanted it investigated by staff during the
Development Stage Plan. Mr. Vickerman suggested staff visit the
site and mark off where the road would be in order to better
understand if there was an issue.
Chair Lamothe and Commissioner Lenthe supported this
recommendation from staff.
Amendment by Commissioner Lenthe, seconded by Chair
Lamothe, to require the developer to install a common
greenspace with playground area in the townhome complex,
that there be parking and turnarounds at the end of the two
driveways in the southern townhome area, that the two parcels
to the south be ghost platted in a manner that was acceptable
to staff and the City, with access right-of-way being adjusted at
the time of Development Stage Plan, and that staff investigate
the location and need for fencing along the stub road adjacent
to the KOA property.
Upon call of the amendment by Chair Lamothe, there were
seven ayes and no nays. Motion carried.
Commissioner Piket stated he was concerned with the fact this
development would have more small lots and small homes that
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could easily be converted into rentals in the future. He explained
he would prefer to see bigger lots for the single-family homes
along with larger lots for the townhomes. He discussed how
difficult it would be to keep children out of the pool or playground
on the KOA property. He encouraged the developer to find a way
to separate this development from the KOA property.
Chair Lamothe anticipated this would be difficult. He stated the
City would have to consider how to address the conversion of
owner occupied properties into rentals.
Commissioner Ostaffe commented he had many of the same
concerns as Commissioner Piket in that narrow lots created small
homes, which could easily be flipped into rentals. He stated he was
also concerned with the lack of screening proposed by the
developer. He encouraged the developer to speak with the KOA
property in order to address this concern. He noted he was also
concerned with the fact the developer did not have any play space
planned for the townhome development. In addition, he was
concerned with the number of townhomes that were being built in
the City at this time.
Upon call of the amended motion by Chair Lamothe, there
were five ayes and two nays (Commissioners Piket and Ostaffe
opposed). Motion carried.
DISCUSSION There were no discussion items.
ITEMS
ADJOURNMENT Motion by Chair Lamothe, seconded by Commissioner Lenthe,
to adjourn the Planning Commission meeting. Upon call of
the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven ayes and no
nays. Motion carried.
Chair Lamothe adjourned the meeting at 8:41 p.m. to the next
regularly scheduled meeting of the Planning Commission
scheduled for December 12, 2022.
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