Planning Commission
Regular MeetingMaple Grove, MN · February 13, 2023
Minutes
MAPLE GROVE
PLANNING COMMISSION
February 13, 2023
CALL TO ORDER A meeting of the Maple Grove Planning Commission was held at
7:00 p.m. on February 13, 2023 at the Maple Grove City Hall,
Hennepin County, Minnesota. Chair Lamothe called the meeting to
order at 7:00 p.m.
PLEDGE OF
ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL Planning Commission members present were Chair Craig
Lamothe, Chris Ayika, Lorie Klein, Chuck Lenthe, Michael
Ostaffe, Joe Piket, and Stephanie Tomlinson. Present also were
Kristy Barnett, City Council Liaison; Joe Hogeboom, Community
and Economic Development Director; Jesse Corrow, Associate
Planner; and Scott Landsman, City Attorney.
OATH OF OFFICE Councilmember Barnett administered the Oath of Office to Chris
Ayika, Chuck Lenthe, Mike Ostaffe, Joe Piket and Stephanie
Tomlinson. A round of applause was offered by all in attendance.
ELECTION OF Mr. Hogeboom requested the Commission elect a Chair and Vice
CHAIR AND VICE Chair for 2023.
CHAIR Motion by Commissioner Ayika, seconded by Commissioner
Klein, to elect Craig Lamothe Chair of the Planning
Commission for 2023. Upon call of the motion by Chair
Lamothe, there were seven ayes and no nays. Motion carried.
Motion by Chair Lamothe, seconded by Commissioner Lenthe,
to elect Chris Ayika Vice Chair of the Planning Commission
for 2023. Upon call of the motion by Chair Lamothe, there
were seven ayes and no nays. Motion carried.
ITEMS TO BE None.
REMOVED FROM
THE AGENDA
CONSENT ITEMS The following Consent Items were presented for the Commission’s
approval:
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A. Regular Meeting – December 12, 2022
Motion by Commissioner Piket, seconded by Commissioner
Ayika, to approve the Consent Items as presented. Upon call
of the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven ayes and no
nays. Motion carried.
CONSIDERATION None.
OF ITEMS PULLED
FROM CONSENT
AGENDA
REVIEW OF THE Councilmember Barnett reviewed with the Commission what items
CITY COUNCIL the City Council approved that was given direction at the Planning
Commission level. She commented further on the plans for the
MINUTES FROM
Community Center and noted the local option sales tax passed in
THEIR REGULAR November.
MEETING OF
FEBRUARY 6, 2023
OLD BUSINESS No items to present.
NEW BUSINESS
PUBLIC HEARING Mr. Corrow stated the applicant is requesting a short plat to
combine properties at the yard waste site into one outlot. The
LYNDE & properties are the original yard waste property and excess right-of-
MCLEOD THIRD way from 610 that was recently transferred to the property owner.
ADDITION No development proposals on the site are being considered at this
time. Any development proposals would require additional
LOUCKS, INC. applications, review by the Planning Commission, and approval by
10300 MAPLE the City Council. Staff discussed the plans in further detail and
GROVE PARKWAY made the following recommendation.
NORTH STAFF RECOMMENDATION:
SHORT PLAT
Motion to recommend that the City Council adopt a resolution
COMBINING approving the Lynde and McLeod Third Addition subject to:
PROPERTIES INTO
ONE OUTLOT 1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the city any
remaining applicable comments contained in the
memorandum from the Engineering Department dated
January 30, 2023.
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The applicant shall acknowledge that Park Dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation to the
Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent board action.
Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each month.
Chair Lamothe opened the public hearing at 7:10 p.m.
The public was asked by Chair Lamothe if they had any comments
to make regarding this application.
No one wished to address the Commission.
Motion by Chair Lamothe, seconded by Commissioner Piket,
to close the public hearing at 7:11 p.m. Upon call of the motion
by Chair Lamothe, there were seven ayes and no nays. Motion
carried.
Motion by Commissioner Ayika, seconded by Commissioner
Ostaffe, to recommend that the City Council adopt a
resolution approving the Lynde and McLeod Third Addition
subject to:
1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the city
any remaining applicable comments contained in the
memorandum from the Engineering Department dated
January 30, 2023.
The applicant shall acknowledge that Park Dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation
to the Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent board
action. Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each
month.
Upon call of the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven
ayes and no nays. Motion carried.
PUBLIC HEARING Mr. Corrow stated the applicant seeks a PUD development stage
plan, preliminary plat, and final plat for the purpose of
SOTA SHINE constructing a 7,240 square feet carwash and pet wash building in
MAPLE GROVE the Southwest Crossroads development at the northwest corner of
70th Place and Alvarado Lane. The request includes re-platting the
NICK NETLEY
property by adding a 38-foot wide section from the adjacent outlot.
OUTLOT G OF As a result, the two affected lots will become more equal in size.
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SOUTHWEST The carwash will occupy 5,645 square feet of the building and
CROSSROADS features a conveyor belt driven system to efficiently cycle vehicles
through the wash. The 1,595 square feet self-service pet wash will
PUD consist of six wash tubs, two drying rooms, a grooming room, and
DEVELOPMENT a customer restroom. Staff discussed the plans in further detail and
STAGE PLAN, made the following recommendation.
PRELIMINARY
STAFF RECOMMENDATION:
AND FINAL PLAT
FOR A 7,240 Motion to recommend that the City Council direct the City
SQUARE FEET Attorney to draft a resolution and a Planned Unit Development
SINGLE STORY agreement approving the Sota Shine Maple Grove planned unit
development stage plan, preliminary plat, and final plat subject to:
CAR AND PET
WASH 1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the city any
remaining applicable comments contained in the
memorandums from:
a. The Community & Economic Development Department
dated January 24, 2023
b. The Engineering Department dated February 13, 2023
c. The Fire Department dated January 18, 2023
d. The Parks & Recreation Department, dated February 2,
2023
e. Hennepin County, dated January 23, 2023
The applicant shall acknowledge that Park Dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation to the
Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent board action.
Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each month.
Discussion
Commissioner Piket asked how many employees the car /pet wash
would have. Mr. Corrow reported the pet wash would be self-
serve. He indicated the narrative stated the car wash would not
have more than 10 employees on site at any one time.
Commissioner Ostaffe questioned where employees would park if
six individuals were onsite using the pet wash. He stated he
believed the site was under parked. Mr. Corrow explained the
recently approved car wash had six employee parking stalls and
eight vacuum bays and noted there has been no parking concerns.
Chair Lamothe stated he had the same concerns regarding the
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onsite parking. Mr. Corrow encouraged the applicant to speak to
this further.
The applicant was at the meeting to answer questions.
Nick Netley, 3056 Hyland Boulevard in Mound, explained the car
wash would hire 10 total employees and there would be two or
three employees onsite at all times, along with a pet wash
receptionist. He stated the pet wash would not have a full time
groomer onsite.
Commissioner Klein asked what the industry standard was for
water recapturing within car washes. Mr. Netley explained he
would be spending extra money on filters in order to reuse 50% of
the water from the car wash.
Commissioner Klein questioned if the City had any requirements
regarding water recapturing for car washes. Mr. Corrow reported
the City does not have any standards in place at this time.
Commissioner Ostaffe commented on how traffic would flow
through the site and requested further information on how visitors
would enter the building with their pets. Mr. Netley described how
the parking had been placed on the side of the building to keep
visitors from having to cross the parking lot with their pets.
Commissioner Piket inquired if the vacuums would be coin
operated. Mr. Netley indicated the vacuums would be free to use.
Commissioner Ostaffe stated he would like to see the parking lot
having at least two more spaces in order to properly accommodate
customers and employees. Mr. Netley stated given his experience
in Waconia, he was not concerned about the parking, but noted he
would be willing to take another look at this. He reported his
employees typically stagger their shifts which meant there was one
coming and one going.
Commissioner Piket explained the new car wash in Brooklyn Park
was quite busy during peak times, especially in the vacuum area.
He encouraged Mr. Netley to have proper signage posted in order
to direct cars through the site.
Commissioner Ostaffe stated in 2010 when Bass Lake Road and
Highway 101 was rebuilt the estimated traffic for this area was
20,000. He asked if this number was still accurate. Mr. Hogeboom
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stated he did not have this data.
Commissioner Tomlinson asked if the car wash would have at
least two staff members on site at all times. Mr. Netley reported
this would be the case. He indicated the starting wage would be
$16 to $18 per hour with more being paid to managers.
Commissioner Tomlinson inquired how Sota Car Wash would
work to be a good member of the community. Mr. Netley
commented on the numerous ways car wash has given back to the
community in Waconia and stated he would be able doing the
same things in Maple Grove.
Chair Lamothe opened the public hearing at 7:38 p.m.
The public was asked by Chair Lamothe if they had any comments
to make regarding this application.
No one wished to address the Commission.
Motion by Chair Lamothe, seconded by Commissioner Ayika,
to close the public hearing at 7:39 p.m. Upon call of the motion
by Chair Lamothe, there were seven ayes and no nays. Motion
carried.
Commissioner Ayika questioned when the car wash would be open
to the public. Mr. Netley stated he would like to begin construction
late May or early June of 2023 and noted he would be open to the
public in October.
Commissioner Ostaffe inquired what the capacity of the car wash
would be per hour. Mr. Netley reported this would depend on the
season. He explained the car wash ran a bit slower in the winter
months than the summer months. He estimated 60 cars were
washed per hour in the winter months and 80+ in the summer
months.
Commissioner Klein asked if the comments from Hennepin
County were taken into consideration. Mr. Corrow commented on
the shared access comments from Hennepin County and noted it
made the most sense for the car wash to have a dedicated access
point. He stated he had not received any feedback from the County
regarding the stacking plan they requested.
Commissioner Lenthe questioned how the car wash would be
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addressing the build up of ice in the winter months near the car
wash exit. Mr. Netley discussed how a heated concrete slab and
drain system would be installed to address this concern.
Chair Lamothe reported he would be supporting staff’s
recommendation and encouraged the applicant to add one or two
additional parking spaces for employees adjacent to the three
spaces shown on the site plan. Mr. Corrow stated staff could
support this recommendation.
Motion by Commissioner Ostaffe, seconded by Commissioner
Piket, to recommend that the City Council direct the City
Attorney to draft a resolution and a Planned Unit Development
agreement approving the Sota Shine Maple Grove planned
unit development stage plan, preliminary plat, and final plat
requiring the applicant to add two additional parking spaces
for staff subject to:
1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the city
any remaining applicable comments contained in the
memorandums from:
a. The Community & Economic Development
Department dated January 24, 2023
b. The Engineering Department dated February 13,
2023
c. The Fire Department dated January 18, 2023
d. The Parks & Recreation Department, dated
February 2, 2023
e. Hennepin County, dated January 23, 2023
The applicant shall acknowledge that Park Dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation
to the Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent board
action. Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each
month.
Commissioner Piket supported the site having two additional
parking spaces.
Chair Lamothe agreed it the applicant should add two more
parking spaces. He anticipated this business would be quite
successful with the shared uses at this location.
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Upon call of the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven
ayes and no nays. Motion carried.
DISCUSSION There were no discussion items.
ITEMS
ADJOURNMENT Motion by Chair Lamothe, seconded by Commissioner Lenthe,
to adjourn the Planning Commission meeting. Upon call of
the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven ayes and no
nays. Motion carried.
Chair Lamothe adjourned the meeting at 7:52 p.m. to the next
regularly scheduled meeting of the Planning Commission
scheduled for March 13, 2023.
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