Planning Commission
Regular MeetingMaple Grove, MN · August 14, 2023
Minutes
MAPLE GROVE
PLANNING COMMISSION
August 14, 2023
CALL TO ORDER A meeting of the Maple Grove Planning Commission was held at
7:00 p.m. on August 14, 2023 at the Maple Grove City Hall,
Hennepin County, Minnesota. Chair Lamothe called the meeting to
order at 7:00 p.m.
PLEDGE OF
ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL Planning Commission members present were Chair Craig
Lamothe, Chris Ayika, Lorie Klein, Chuck Lenthe, Michael
Ostaffe, Joe Piket, and Stephanie Tomlinson. Present also were
Kristy Barnett, City Council Liaison, Peter Vickerman, Planning
Manager, and Scott Landsman, City Attorney.
ITEMS TO BE None.
REMOVED FROM
THE AGENDA
CONSENT ITEMS The following Consent Items were presented for the Commission’s
approval:
A. Regular Meeting – July 31, 2023
B. Popeye’s at Dunkirk Square TABLED to September 11, 2023,
Planning Commission meeting
Maple Grove Chicken, LLC
16501 County Road 30, Outlot A
PUD Concept stage plan amendment, development stage plan,
and final plat for the purpose to construct at 2,500 square foot
drive thru restaurant in Dunkirk Square Fifth Addition
Motion by Commissioner Ayika, seconded by Commissioner
Lenthe, to approve the Consent Items as presented. Upon call
of the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven ayes and no
nays. Motion carried.
CONSIDERATION None.
OF ITEMS PULLED
FROM CONSENT
AGENDA
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UPDATE ON CITY Councilmember Barnett reviewed with the Commission what
COUNCIL items the City Council approved that was given direction at the
Planning Commission level. She reported the Council was also
MEETING
holding discussions regarding the 2024 budget and tax levy. She
explained the ground breaking ceremony for the TH610 extension
would be held on Tuesday, August 22.
OLD BUSINESS No items to present.
NEW BUSINESS
PUBLIC HEARING Mr. Vickerman stated the applicant is requesting a short plat to
divide an existing property into two lots. The existing property is
APPALOOSA 65,397 square feet in size. The two new lots will be 31,564 square
WOODS 10TH feet and 33,918 square feet in size. The site is zoned R-1 and the
ADDITION minimum lot size is 20,000 square feet so both new lots exceed the
minimum. An existing home on Lot 1 will stay as part of this
ALEKSANDR proposal. Other than some minor comments in the staff
USTIMSHUK memorandums, staff has no issues with the proposal. Staff
discussed the plans in further detail and made the following
19205 81ST PLACE
recommendation.
NORTH
SHORT PLAT FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION:
THE PURPOSE OF Motion to recommend that the City Council direct the City
PLATTING THE Attorney to draft a resolution approving the Appaloosa Woods 10th
PROPERTY INTO Addition short plat subject to:
TWO PARCELS
1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the city any
remaining applicable comments contained in the
memorandums from:
a. The Community & Economic Development
Department dated July 13, 2023
b. The Engineering Department dated July 21, 2023
c. The Parks & Recreation Department dated July 20,
2023
The applicant shall acknowledge that Park Dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation to the
Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent board action.
Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each month.
Discussion
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Commissioner Ostaffe asked if staff has received any negative
feedback from adjacent residents. Mr. Vickerman stated he has not
received any negative feedback, but did receive one call from a
resident with questions about the house placement.
The applicant was at the meeting to answer questions.
Chair Lamothe opened the public hearing at 7:04 p.m.
The public was asked by Chair Lamothe if they had any comments
to make regarding this application.
No one wished to address the Commission.
Motion by Chair Lamothe, seconded by Commissioner Piket,
to close the public hearing at 7:05 p.m. Upon call of the
motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven ayes and no nays.
Motion carried.
Motion by Commissioner Lenthe, seconded by Commissioner
Ayika, to recommend that the City Council direct the City
Attorney to draft a resolution approving the Appaloosa Woods
10th Addition short plat subject to:
1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the city
any remaining applicable comments contained in the
memorandums from:
a. The Community & Economic Development
Department dated July 13, 2023
b. The Engineering Department dated July 21,
2023
c. The Parks & Recreation Department dated July
20, 2023
The applicant shall acknowledge that Park Dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation
to the Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent board
action. Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each
month.
Upon call of the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven
ayes and no nays. Motion carried.
PUBLIC HEARING Mr. Vickerman stated the applicant is requesting planned unit
development (PUD) development stage plan, preliminary and final
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plat approval for 400,000 square feet, three-story, office/lab
MINNESOTA building with the potential of a 150,000 square feet addition on
SCIENCE AND approximately 37 acres of land adjacent to I94/I694. The site is in
TECHNOLOGY the Gravel Mining Area (GMA) South Master Plan area and is
CENTER identified for multi-story office buildings. The site is guided
Regional Mixed Use – Freeway Frontage that also calls for high
PROJECT BLACK quality, multi-story office buildings. The site received PUD
BEAR concept plan approval on June 26, 2023, and the development
stage plan is in conformance with the approved concept plan. The
RYAN
building is shown on the southern end of the site, near I94/I694,
COMPANIES US, with a parking field on the northern portion of the site. Staff
INC. discussed the plans in further detail and made the following
GRAVEL MINING recommendation.
AREA NORTH OF STAFF RECOMMENDATION:
I-694
Motion to recommend that the City Council direct the City
PUD
Attorney to draft a resolution and a Planned Unit Development
DEVELOPMENT agreement approving the Minnesota Science and Technology
STAGE PLAN, Center – Project Black Bear planned unit development stage plan,
PRELIMINARY rezoning, preliminary plat, and final plat subject to:
PLAT, AND FINAL
PLAT FOR THE 1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the city any
remaining applicable comments contained in the
PURPOSE OF A
memorandums from:
400,000 SQUARE
FOOT OFFICE a. The Community & Economic Development
WITH RESEARCH Department dated August 2, 2023
AND b. The Engineering Department dated July 21, 2023
DEVELOPMENT c. The Water Resources Engineer updated August 7,
2023
LABS
d. The Fire Department dated July 21, 2023 and
updated August 8, 2023
e. The Parks & Recreation Department, dated August
3, 2023
Motion to recommend that the City Council direct the City
Attorney to draft an ordinance approving the rezoning from FF,
Freeway Frontage to PUD, Planned Unit Development.
The applicant shall acknowledge that Park Dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation to the
Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent board action.
Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each month.
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Discussion
Commissioner Ostaffe questioned if the site had adequate parking.
Mr. Vickerman stated staff was comfortable with the proposed
level of parking for the site.
Commissioner Klein asked how the pollinator friendly plantings
would be protected. She encouraged the applicant to not overuse
chemicals on the property. Mr. Vickerman explained pollinator
friendly plantings do take a different type of maintenance than sod
grass.
Commissioner Lenthe indicated he was curious about the parking
as well, noting he understood the applicant was proposing 25%
less parking stalls than City Code required. Mr. Vickerman
reported the amount of common space and more people working
from home has led to the request for less parking.
The applicant was at the meeting to answer questions.
Dan Mueller, Vice President of Development for Ryan Companies,
thanked staff for the detailed presentation. He thanked the
Commission for considering his project and stated he was hopeful
this project would be able to move forward in the City of Maple
Grove.
Commissioner Klein asked if the applicant had a plan in place to
protect the pollinator friendly plantings. Chad Lockwood, Civil
Engineer for Ryan Companies, explained he did not have a
specific plan in place for the plantings, but he would work to
create a habitat for the pollinators onsite.
Commissioner Ayika questioned if Ryan Companies had a tenant
in mind for this property. Mr. Mueller indicated he would look to
begin construction after receiving City approval and noted he did
have a tenant in place for the facility.
Commissioner Lenthe commended the applicant on the building’s
exterior and architectural plans. He noted this would be a welcome
addition to the City of Maple Grove.
Commissioner Ostaffe inquired when the applicant would be
adding the additional 150,000 square feet. Mr. Mueller reported
the expansion would be up to the tenant and what their growth
dictates.
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Chair Lamothe stated he was very impressed with the architecture
of this building. He thanked Ryan Companies for all of their work
on this and noted he appreciated the native plantings as well.
Chair Lamothe opened the public hearing at 7:18 p.m.
The public was asked by Chair Lamothe if they had any comments
to make regarding this application.
No one wished to address the Commission.
Motion by Chair Lamothe, seconded by Commissioner
Ostaffe, to close the public hearing at 7:19 p.m. Upon call of
the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven ayes and no
nays. Motion carried.
Motion by Commissioner Ayika, seconded by Commissioner
Lenthe, to recommend that the City Council direct the City
Attorney to draft a resolution and a Planned Unit
Development agreement approving the Minnesota Science and
Technology Center – Project Black Bear planned unit
development stage plan, rezoning, preliminary plat, and final
plat subject to:
1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the city
any remaining applicable comments contained in the
memorandums from:
a. The Community & Economic Development
Department dated August 2, 2023
b. The Engineering Department dated July 21,
2023
c. The Water Resources Engineer updated August
7, 2023
d. The Fire Department dated July 21, 2023 and
updated August 8, 2023
e. The Parks & Recreation Department, dated
August 3, 2023
Upon call of the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven
ayes and no nays. Motion carried.
Motion by Commissioner Piket, seconded by Commissioner
Klein, to recommend that the City Council direct the City
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Attorney to draft an ordinance approving the rezoning from
FF, Freeway Frontage to PUD, Planned Unit Development.
The applicant shall acknowledge that Park Dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation
to the Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent board
action. Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each
month.
Upon call of the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven
ayes and no nays. Motion carried.
PUBLIC HEARING Mr. Vickerman stated the applicant is requesting a comprehensive
plan amendment, planned unit development (PUD) concept stage
NÖRSQ MAPLE plan, PUD development stage plan, rezoning, preliminary and final
GROVE plat approval for a mixed-use residential and commercial
development. The site has a total of 79 acres and the area proposed
NÖRSQ for development is approximately 22 acres in size, including the
COMPANIES adjacent right-of-way of Garland Lane North. The area proposed
for development sits just west of the under-construction Edison
PUD CONCEPT Apartments and between the right-of-way for Rush Creek
STAGE PLAN, Boulevard North (610 Extension) and a large wetland to the south.
The western boundary is Lawndale Lane North. The applicant is
DEVELOPMENT
showing 355 total units, with 155 of these in the development
STAGE PLAN, stage as rental townhomes and the remainder in a 200-unit
COMPREHENSIVE apartment at concept level. They are also showing a 9,000 square
PLAN feet commercial building that is also at concept level. Staff
AMENDMENT, discussed the plans in further detail and made the following
REZONING, recommendation.
PRELIMINARY STAFF RECOMMENDATION:
PLAT, AND FINAL
PLAT FOR THE Motion to recommend that the City Council direct the City
PURPOSE OF 155 Attorney to draft a resolution and a Planned Unit Development
RENTAL agreement approving the Nörsq Maple Grove planned unit
development concept stage plan, development stage plan,
TOWNHOMES, 200
comprehensive plan amendment, rezoning, preliminary plat, and
UNIT APARTMENT final plat subject to:
AND 9,000
SQUARE FEET 1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the city any
COMMERCIAL remaining applicable comments contained in the
SPACE memorandums from:
a. The Community & Economic Development
Department dated August 8, 2023
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b. The Engineering Department dated July 21, 2023
c. The Water Resources Engineer updated August 8,
2023
d. The Parks & Recreation Department dated August
4, 2023
e. The Department of Natural Resources dated August
10, 2023
Motion to recommend that the City Council direct the City
Attorney to draft an ordinance approving the rezoning from RA,
Residential Agricultural to PUD, Planned Unit Development.
The applicant shall acknowledge that Park Dedication
requirements are based on staff review and recommendation to the
Park and Recreation Board and their subsequent board action.
Board meetings are held on the third Thursday of each month.
Discussion
Chair Lamothe asked staff to speak to the absence of a sidewalk on
the east side of Lawndale between Garland Lane and Rush Creek
Boulevard. Mr. Vickerman stated this would be added back in.
Commissioner Klein stated she really liked the look of these units.
She questioned if the surrounding schools would be able to
manage an influx of more students. Mr. Vickerman reported he has
not heard any updates from the school on if they were pursuing a
referendum this year. He stated based on the development in this
area of the community there seems to be a need for more
classrooms.
Commissioner Lenthe inquired if the outdoor amenity space would
be public or private. Mr. Vickerman explained this would be a
private amenity space.
Commissioner Piket asked what the rental rates would be for these
units. Mr. Vickerman deferred this question to the applicant.
Commissioner Ostaffe stated it was his understanding the right-in,
right-out had not been approved. He expressed concern with the
amount of traffic that would be driving past the homes to get to the
retail spaces. Mr. Vickerman commented in the initial discussions
with the engineering staff, there were not concern with the right-in,
but rather there were concerns with the right-out. It was his
understanding the right-in would be acceptable.
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Commissioner Ostaffe stated the right-in, right-out would greatly
improve the flow of traffic for this development. Mr. Vickerman
commented further on how traffic would flow in and out of the site,
along with the estimated trips entering and exiting the property.
Commissioner Ostaffe questioned how much underground parking
would be available within this development. He feared that
residents within this development would opt not to pay for the
underground parking and the size of the surface lot would not be
adequate. Mr. Vickerman reported this issue would have to be
addressed by the developer during the development stage of this
project.
Commissioner Ostaffe stated he believed the amount of surface
parking was not adequate for a project of this size. Mr. Vickerman
stated this issue would be looked at closely as the project moves
through the approval process.
Commissioner Lenthe asked if only the townhome complex was
being considered at this time. Mr. Vickerman reported this was
correct.
Commissioner Ostaffe stated it was his understanding these
townhouse units would be rental and this was a huge concern to
him. He feared there were fewer and fewer units being built for
young families to purchase and put down roots in the community.
The applicant was at the meeting to answer questions.
Jeff Koch, Nörsq Companies, explained this would be his fifth
project in Maple Grove. He reported Terra Apartments was a
project he worked on at Roers. He understood the parking
concerns at the Terra apartment complex. He stated this would be
taken into consideration for this project. He understood the
concerns about having units available for families to purchase and
put down roots. He noted there was a huge disparity between rental
and affordable housing options in the State of Minnesota at this
time, which was making it difficult for first time homebuyers. He
stated the proposed units were an option for young families.
Commissioner Lenthe stated this was one of the most dense sites
he has seen in a long time. He indicated he had concerns regarding
how snow would be stored on this site and asked if the applicant
was prepared to haul snow away if required. Mr. Koch commented
on the snow storage that was built into this project and noted he
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would haul snow away if this was required.
Commissioner Lenthe stated he would like to see the pickleball
and pool areas enclosed. Mr. Koch explained he has done a
number of developments across the Midwest and nation. He
reported in the summer Minnesotans love to be outdoors which
was the reason he was proposing to have an outdoor pool and
pickleball court. He indicated the City had a lot of great indoor
amenities if future tenants wanted to swim or play pickleball
indoors.
Commissioner Lenthe questioned if permanent chairs would be in
place around the fire pit. Mr. Koch stated this was his plan.
Commissioner Lenthe inquired if residents at the apartment
complex would be able to use the outdoor pool, pickleball court,
tot lot and fire pit. Mr. Koch commented his initial plans were to
allow the townhome and apartment renters to use the amenities. He
noted the apartment building would also have their own separate
amenities, which would include a community room for special
events.
Commissioner Ostaffe asked what the rental rates would be for the
apartment and townhouse units. Mr. Koch stated the entire
development would be market rate. He indicated there would be
focus on providing a breadth of affordability levels. He noted the
two bedroom units would be $2,000 per month and the three
bedroom units would be just over $3,000 per month.
Commissioner Tomlinson questioned if the developer would be
providing any accessible units. Mr. Koch stated he would have
several two and three bedroom units that would meet all ADA
requirements.
Commissioner Ostaffe inquired where the ADA units would be
located. Josh Skall, architect for the project, commented on the
location for the two ADA units noting they would be slab on
grade.
Chair Lamothe opened the public hearing at 7:58 p.m.
The public was asked by Chair Lamothe if they had any comments
to make regarding this application.
No one wished to address the Commission.
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Motion by Chair Lamothe, seconded by Commissioner Piket,
to close the public hearing at 7:59 p.m. Upon call of the
motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven ayes and no nays.
Motion carried.
Motion by Commissioner Lenthe, seconded by Commissioner
Ayika, to recommend that the City Council direct the City
Attorney to draft a resolution and a Planned Unit
Development agreement approving the Nörsq Maple Grove
planned unit development concept stage plan, development
stage plan, comprehensive plan amendment, rezoning,
preliminary plat, and final plat subject to:
1. The applicant addressing to the satisfaction of the city
any remaining applicable comments contained in the
memorandums from:
a. The Community & Economic Development
Department dated August 8, 2023
b. The Engineering Department dated July 21, 2023
c. The Water Resources Engineer updated August 8,
2023
d. The Parks & Recreation Department dated August
4, 2023
e. The Department of Natural Resources dated August
10, 2023.
Commissioner Piket indicated this motion would approve the
townhomes and the concept plan for this dense community.
Chair Lamothe reported this was the case.
Commissioner Piket expressed concern with the proposed density
and high rents proposed for this project. He anticipated this would
not be an affordable option for families with young kids.
Commissioner Ostaffe agreed stating the entrance into the property
was a concern for him along with the high level of traffic due to
the proposed density. He stated people could get into townhomes
for $2,500 to $3,000 per month.
Chair Lamothe commented he had concerns with this development
as well. He noted he would feel more comfortable if the right-in,
right-out was going to be approved. He understood the City had a
need for all types of housing, but he feared the City has had too
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much rental coming through. He suggested staff provide the
Commission with an annual report on the number and type of
housing units. He indicated he was concerned with the proposed
rental rates and questioned what these would go for if they were
owner-occupied. He stated he would be inclined to table action on
this item until more information could be brought back.
Commissioner Ayika explained he has similar concerns with the
mix of rental that has been approved by the City. He noted this
project would have 150 rental units. He feared the site was not
adequately parked.
Commissioner Klein stated she agreed with Commissioner Ayika
regarding the apartment building and parking lot size.
Commissioner Lenthe indicated the proposed density would make
this project very tight. He stated he was trying to remember some
of the discussion the Commission had with the last townhome
complex. He believed having the entire townhome project being
rental would be better than having some of the units rental and the
remainder being owner-occupied.
Chair Lamothe supported the comments made by Commissioner
Ayika noting he had concerns with the size of the surface parking
lot for the apartment complex. Based on this fact, he would not
support the concept stage plan for the apartment complex.
Commissioner Ostaffe reported the townhouse complex would
have 47 guest parking spots and the apartment building would
have far less than this for their 200 units.
Chair Lamothe noted the Commission had a motion and second on
the floor. He asked if the Commission had to take action on this
prior to entertaining tabling. City Attorney Landsman reported the
seconder of the motion could withdraw his second of the motion
and the Commission could consider a new motion.
Commissioner Piket stated the Chair may want to speak with the
applicant to see which way they would like the Commission to
proceed.
Chair Lamothe asked how the applicant would like the
Commission to proceed. Mr. Koch stated he has heard the
comments and concerns from the Commission. He believed it
would be wise to provide more information to the Commission
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regarding traffic, density and a market study before moving this
project forward.
Chair Lamothe thanked the applicant for this feedback.
Commissioner Ayika withdrew his second. City Attorney
Landsman stated the Commission could now consider a new
motion.
Motion by Chair Lamothe, seconded by Commissioner Piket,
to table action on this item to September 11, 2023. Upon call of
the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven ayes and no
nays. Motion carried.
DISCUSSION There were no discussion items.
ITEMS
ADJOURNMENT Motion by Chair Lamothe, seconded by Commissioner
Tomlinson, to adjourn the Planning Commission meeting.
Upon call of the motion by Chair Lamothe, there were seven
ayes and no nays. Motion carried.
Chair Lamothe adjourned the meeting at 8:19 p.m. to the next
regularly scheduled meeting of the Planning Commission
scheduled for September 11, 2023.
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