Waterways Advisory Committee
Regular MeetingMarco Island, FL · January 19, 2017
Minutes
City of Marco Island Florida
51 Bald Eagle Drive
Marco Island, Florida
cityofmarcoisland.com
Meeting Minutes - Final
Thursday, January 19, 2017
9:00 AM
Community Room
Waterways Advisory Committee
Waterways Advisory Committee Meeting Minutes - Final January 19, 2017
(1) ROLL CALL
Present: 3- Ben Farnsworth, Vice-Chair Rodger Parcelles and Chair Heindl
Absent: 0
(2) PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
(3) APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION by Member Farnsworth, seconded by Vice-Chair Parcelles, to approve
the agenda. MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
Present: 3- Ben Farnsworth, Vice-Chair Rodger Parcelles and Chair Heindl
Absent: 0
(4) APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MOTION by Member Farnsworth, seconded by Member Jaskiewicz, to approve
the minutes from the 11/17/2016 meeting. MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING
VOTE:
Yes: 5- Member Farnsworth, Vice-Chair Parcelles, Jaskiewicz, Chair Heindl and
Timmerman
Not Present: 2- Landwaard and Fleischer
ID 17-1254 11-17-2016 Meeting Minutes
(5) STAFF COMMUNICATIONS
Due to the recent election of new City Councilmen, Mr. Pinter advised that there will be four new
committee members in February.
Remaining members: Mr. Farnsworth, Mr. Fleischer and Mr. Parcelles.
Mr. Pinter reviewed Section 7-704 of the Committee Handbook which addresses the preparation of the
Agenda and deadline for distribution. There was further discussion as to why any outside media materials
must be submitted at least 48 hours prior to the meeting so that the IT department can properly screen
them for any viruses, etc.
(6) COMMITTEE COMMUNICATIONS
Mr. Timmerman advised that it has been his honor to serve the community on this committe and he feels
that the committee has made many accomplishments. He made it clear that the things he is doing
regarding the island all have the island's best interest at heart. His efforts will continue regardless.
1 ACTION ITEM:ATONS(AIDS TO NAVIGATION) & PATONS (PRIVATE AIDS TO
NAVIGATION-JAMES TIMMERMAN
Tim Pinter reminded the committee that the City Manager tasked the Public Works Department to repair
and replace the 60+ markers within City Limits on a 5-year rotational basis. He advised that during this
first year they have already replaced 20 of the markers. Numbers 3, 3A and 5 in Factory Bay also have
been replaced.
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Mr. Timmerman indicated that he has been in contact with Chris D'Arco from Collier County and he has
provided updates that they are working with the Coast Guard to continue the process for the daymark by
the bridge for the no wake zone.
Andrea Battaglia, 1450 Cutler Court commended the City on the great job they have done on replacing
those markers. She advised that per Debbie Roddy (Coastal Advisory Committee) they are still working
on replacing the 5 and 7 markers at Caxambas Pass. She also mentioned that all the shoaling signs are
gone in that area.
Mr. Parcelles mentioned that marker 3A is about 150 feet off mark. Mr. Pinter will verify its location.
2 ACTION ITEM: OCEAN HABITATS UPDATE-JAMES TIMMERMAN
David Wolfe was here last week and installed 28 more habitats. They have had very good success and
the community involvement is working well.
Jerry Miller, Environmental Science Teacher, Marco Island Academy, stated that his class built 20 of the
28 habitats and they are planning on building another 23 in February. He detailed their future plans
including monitoring the new habitats. The kids are really enjoying the program.
Mr. Timmerman asked if their data could be shared with the City. Mr. Farnsworth invited the school to
look at their habitats on the north end of the island.
Mr. Pinter advised that there will be some water quality testing in the canals in the upcoming months to
measure the impact of the habitats.
Public Comment
Vic Rinke, Lamplighter Drive would like to reinforce the idea that they are testing for nitrates and
phosphates. He encourages us to move in that direction as there is a group of people who are concerned
with how fast our waterways have been changing and what has really happened since the septic system
project. He is concerned with Chrystal Shores and the Marriott storm water purging into the Landmark
Waterway during the rains in the summer.
3 DISCUSSION ITEM: REVIEW OF ENGINEER OF RECORD BULKHEAD
CONSTRUCTION OVERSIGHT - JAMES TIMMERMAN
Mr. Timmerman recommended that this be deferred to City Council for direction.
4 DISCUSSION ITEM: SMOKEHOUSE BAY MOORING FIELD & ANCHORAGE-JAMES
TIMMERMAN
This item will be removed from future agendas.
ID 17-1267
5 REVIEW OF "SEAWALL OWNERS MANUAL" -JAMES TIMMERMAN
Mr. Timmerman feels that this will be better addressed by the future committee. Mr. Heindl feels that this
committee's opinions and viewpoints are important. This document does not reference the environmental
impact of sea walls. He sees extensive rewrites needing to be done.
Mr. Timmerman advised that the City Manager advised him to include information about what can and
should be done about repair and maintenance of sea walls.
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Mr. Pinter suggested that the existing members send their changes to him and he will disseminate to the
new committee members for their review.
Mr. Farnsworth feels that the WAC should wait for the Planning Board's actions prior to review.
Mr. Pinter advise that Code Enforcement is also working on information for homeowners regarding seawall
maintenance.
This Item will remain on the Agenda for the next meeting.
Public Comment
Sam Young, 191 Lamplighter Drive, questioned if there was an established milestone as to when this will
be completed. He feels like it is spinning its wheels.
Ed Issler, 908 S. Joy Circle, as we move forward on this issue he feels it is important to get the word out
to the homeowners that it is being done for their benefit even though they may incur more costs with
inspections. There should be code enforcement people on staff who are qualified to make decisions on
the seawall construction.
ID 17-1256 Review of Seawall Owners Manual
6 EVALUATION OF THE COMMITTEE BUDGET INCLUDING ATON AND PATON
REPAIR AND COMPENSATION FOR CITY ENVIRONMENTAL SPECIALST TO ATTEND
WAC MEETING-MR. HEINDL
Mr. Heindl advised that this will require a procedural change that would include a yearly budget review of
WAC needs. This item should move forward but the Committee needs to be involved in the City budget
proceedings.
Mr. Farnsworth proposed adding an Agenda Action Item for the next meeting to discuss the 2018 budget.
Public Comment
Sam Young, 191 Lamplighter , He attended the 1/6 Planning Board meeting where Dr. Trotter discussed
adding a full time environmentalist to the Planning Board's long term comprehensive plan for our water
quality management. He suggested that there could possibly be an overlap where the two committees
work together to get a plan implemented.
It was decided by consensus that this item wiill be added to the next agenda.
There was additional discussion on having the environmental specialist available at meetings. Mr. Pinter
advised the committee to discuss this with the City Manager.
7 DISCUSSION OF THE 11/14 /16 GROWTH MANAGEMENT REPORT AND REVISED
CORRECTED 12/17/16 GROWTH MANAGEMENT REPORT
Chadd Chustz, City Environmental Specialist prepared a response to Mr. Timmerman and Dr. Trotter's
White Paper introduced as the Planning Board meeting On Friday January 13th. He discussed the entire
report which will be presented to City Council at their next meeting (attached).
He clarified that the that the impairment of "WBID 8064" which are the coastal waters of Marco Island was
not a water quality problem, the FDEP can issue impairment for a variety of reasons. This area was listed
as an impairment due to its designated use as a shell fishing area, not for pollution. The cause of the
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listing of impaired was not due to an observable problem in fecal coliform. The impairment listing was
based on its designated use by the Department of Agriculture as a conditionally improved shell fishing
area in the waters of Cape Romano which are located south of the island. Shell fishing harvesting areas
are required to have very good water quality in order to be listed as conditionally improved.The Department
of Agriculture did issue a statement that the water quality in this area is really good. The issue is obsolete
and Marco Island waters will no longer be listed as impaired by the DEP as that WBID area has been
re-mapped. The Department of Health Beaches program monitors Marco Island coastal waters on a
weekly basis which consistently shows Marco Island coastal waters as good under strict stands for
enterococcus.
Discussion followed.
Tim Pinter read into the record from the Committee Handbook Section 3-301: "Committees have no
authority to represent the City Council or the City Manager or to direct the activities of the City staff.
Members shall refrain from public statements that may be construed as the policy of the City of of the
City Council. Members shall avoid using their positions to advance initiatives or garner public support for
or against policies or programs."
Mr. Pinter suggested that the discussion end and allow the City Council to direct the committee on what
their direction will be.
By consensus it was decided to add this discussion to the next meeting's agenda.
Public Comment
Bob Olsen, 900 Montego Court, He feels the City staff is playing dodge ball with water quality. He feels we
need first class monthly water testing and a plan to deal with water quality issues.
Laura Litzan, City Clerk, Advised that this if the first time that she has ever had to address a committee in
the almost 20 years she has been with the City. She has a problem with our staff being accused of
playing dodge ball with something as important as water quality. She strongly suggested the the public
let the City Council do its job. She appreciates the advisory committee and its activities but water quality
is the purview of the City Council.
Vic Rinke, 100 Lamplighter Drive, Water is an issue, what is the purpose of the committees if they can
not pass on information to Council. He feels that the City is not showing any evidence of moving very fast
on this issue. We need to collect more information on what is happening in the water and every 18
months is not the answer.
Andrea Battaglia, 1450 Cutler, discussed the situation of unintended consequences from the STRP. The
septic water not flushing millions gallons of water has made a huge impact on our canals.
Mr. Jaskiewicz thanked the public for their support and encouraged them to come to every meeting.
Mr. Timmerman apologized for anything that may have offended staff, it was not his intent.
ID 17-1288 Chadd Chustz Environmental Update Presentation
ID 17-1260
8 MOORE DOCKS, SEAWALLS & LIFTS PRESENTATION -TOM MOORE
This Item was deferred.
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9 MARCO SPORTFISHING CLUB PRESENTATION-CAPT. SAM YOUNG, DIRECTOR
OF FISHERIES MANAGEMENT
Sam Young 191 Lamplighter Rd, Director of Fisheries, Marco Island Sport Fishing Club gave a
presentation on water quallity (attached.)
Public Comment
Ed Vesely, 35 Gulfport Ct., Swale drainage rules have apparently changed and the public has not been
informed. He is a 14 year resident and has seen a tremendous drop off in the quality of the water in his
canal. We need accurate reporting on a regular basis of the water quality. There should be a report of
the quality of the sewer pipes.
Mr. Heindl would like the record to reflect that the 15 members of the audience are in agreement with the
above statements
Vic Rinke, 100 Lamplighter, this issue with water quality has been going on for several years. He
discussed Councilman Petricca's visit to the Marriott over 2 1/2 years ago and the interest in seeing that
public record. There was not much happening until all of a sudden when on the site it was very obvious
and an embarressment to everyone that the filter has not been maintained.
Bob Olsen, When has the City begun doing the analysis that was presented earlier to the committee, we
have not been compiling the statistics. We need to randomly test the water quality in our canals monthly
to establish a baseline to operate from and then to extablish a plan to address it. We as a community
ought to get answers from our staff who we pay to do their job. Lets not be reactionary lets develop a
plan.
Laura Litzan, City Clerk, clarified to the committiee that quarterly monitoring is still happening and we pay
the County approximately $6,800 -$7,500 per year.
Sam Young, 191 Lamplighter Rd., We need the testing to be done more often. He does not condone
quarterly monitoring.
Ed Vesely, 35 Gulfport Court, the testing information should be published.
Mr. Timmerman met with the City of Naples and will send out the info he gathered. He stated that the City
of Naples has a Lake Water Quality testing budget of $250,000 annually. They also collect a storm water
fee from property owners which is approximately $13/month which generates approximately 5.5 million
dollars for remediating water quality issues, and includes, maintenance, operations and captial projects.
The City of Naples does not have storm water filters in their storm water drains. Mr. Timmerman feels that
we should use the City of Naples as a resource.
This Item will remain as an Action Item for the next meeting.
Bob Olsen, 900 Montego Ct., Thanked Mr. Timmerman for talking with Naples.
Mr. Pinter advised that the City of Naples has a storm water utility. This was presented to City Council in
the past and not approved. Perhaps the new Council will have a different opinion.
ID 17-1286 Marco SportFishing Club Presentation
(7) PUBLIC COMMENT
15 Residents were in attendance at this meeting.
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(8) ADJOURN
MOTION by Member Jaskiewicz, seconded by Vice-Chair Parcelles, that this be
approved. MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
Yes: 5- Member Farnsworth, Vice-Chair Parcelles, Jaskiewicz, Chair Heindl and
Timmerman
Not Present: 2- Landwaard and Fleischer
NOTE: TWO OR MORE CITY COUNCILORS OR OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS MAY BE PRESENT
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Agenda
City of Marco Island Florida
51 Bald Eagle Drive
Marco Island, Florida
cityofmarcoisland.com
Meeting Agenda - Final
Thursday, January 19, 2017
9:00 AM
Community Room
Waterways Advisory Committee
Waterways Advisory Committee Meeting Agenda - Final January 19, 2017
(1) ROLL CALL
(2) APPROVAL OF AGENDA
(3) APPROVAL OF MINUTES
ID 17-1254 11-17-2016 Meeting Minutes
Attachments: MeetingMinutes 11-17-2016 Meetingpdf.pdf
(4) STAFF COMMUNICATIONS
(5) COMMITTEE COMMUNICATIONS
1 ACTION ITEM:ATONS(AIDS TO NAVIGATION) & PATONS (PRIVATE AIDS TO
NAVIGATION-JAMES TIMMERMAN
2 ACTION ITEM: OCEAN HABITATS UPDATE-JAMES TIMMERMAN
3 DISCUSSION ITEM: REVIEW OF ENGINEER OF RECORD BULKHEAD
CONSTRUCTION OVERSIGHT - JAMES TIMMERMAN
4 DISCUSSION ITEM: SMOKEHOUSE BAY MOORING FIELD &
ANCHORAGE-JAMES TIMMERMAN
ID 17-1267
Attachments: Boat Anchorage Doc.pdf
5 REVIEW OF "SEAWALL OWNERS MANUAL" -JAMES TIMMERMAN
ID 17-1256
Attachments: Seawall Owners Manual 4-14-14.pdf
6 EVALUATION OF THE COMMITTEE BUDGET INCLUDING ATON AND PATON
REPAIR AND COMPENSATION FOR CITY ENVIRONMENTAL SPECIALST TO
ATTEND WAC MEETING-MR. HEINDL
7 DISCUSSION OF THE 11/14 /16 GROWTH MANAGEMENT REPORT AND
REVISED CORRECTED 12/17/16 GROWTH MANAGEMENT REPORT
ID 17-1260
Attachments: Growth Management Reports.pdf
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8 MOORE DOCKS, SEAWALLS & LIFTS PRESENTATION -TOM MOORE
9 MARCO SPORTFISHING CLUB PRESENTATION-CAPT. SAM YOUNG,
DIRECTOR OF FISHERIES MANAGEMENT
(8) PUBLIC COMMENT
(9) ADJOURN
NOTE: TWO OR MORE CITY COUNCILORS OR OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS MAY BE PRESENT
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