Waterways Advisory Committee
Regular MeetingMarco Island, FL · February 16, 2017
Minutes
City of Marco Island Florida
51 Bald Eagle Drive
Marco Island, Florida
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Meeting Minutes - Final
Thursday, February 16, 2017
9:00 AM
Community Room
Waterways Advisory Committee
Chair: Phares Heindl
Vice-Chair: Rodger Parcelles
Ben Farnsworth, Monica Pierce, Robert Roth, Steve Sokol, Sam Young
City Staff: Chadd Chustz, Mary Husted
Waterways Advisory Committee Meeting Minutes - Final February 16, 2017
ROLLCALL
Present: 5- Vice-Chair Rodger Parcelles, Chair Heindl, Steve Sokol, Monica Pierce and Robert
Roth
Excused: 1- Ben Farnsworth
Absent: 0
WAC MEMBER INTRODUCTIONS
The newly comprised Waterways Committee introduced themselves to each other and the community
SELECTION OF CHAIR AND VICE-CHAIR
MOTION by Rodger Parcelles to nominate Phares Heindle as Committee
Chairman. MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
Yes: 6- Vice-Chair Parcelles, Chair Heindl, Fleischer, Member Sokol, Member Pierce and
Member Roth
MOTION by Phares Heindl to nominate Rodger Parcelles as Committee
Vice-Chairman. MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
Yes: 6- Vice-Chair Parcelles, Chair Heindl, Fleischer, Member Sokol, Member Pierce and
Member Roth
WELCOME FROM CITY COUNCIL CHAIRMAN HONIG
City Council Chairman Honig welcomed the new committee. He advised that this committee will be
changing tremendously. This committee will be given two new tasks in addition to its current work. The
first task will be water quality. The committee has been specifically charged with helping the City figure
out how to look at water quality, what it means and what we do about it beginning with measurement all the
way through process and action if any. Also added to the committee's remit is storm water management.
He advised that the committee has to help the community understand what the issues are and what
stormwater management means. Mr. Honig would love to see the committee come up with a plan and to
come to City Council for direction if needed.
Mr. Honig advised the members that they should consider themselves appointed equally by each Council
member. He also advised that the committee is valued for its independence. He read to the committee
from the Handbook for Boards and Committees Section 10-1001; "While Councilors may communicate
with the committee, each councilor should avoid attempts to influence the recommendation and outcome
of an issue under consideration by the committee." He also read from Section 2-211 "Members shall
avoid using their positions to advance initiatives or garner public support for or against policies or
programs." He also reminded the members that they can not ask staff directly to do work for them, they
can request staff work through City Council.
WELCOME FROM CITY CLERK LAURA LITZAN
Ms. Litzan advised the committee to call her anytime with questions.
Ms. Litzan reviewed the attendance policy as outlined in the Handbook for Boards and Committees (no
more than 3 unexcused absences). She informed the committee that Chadd Chustz is the new Committee
Liaison and as such the person the members should communicate through.
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She also reviewed the Sunshine Law with the committee.
Attachments: Committee Handbook.pdf
Attachments: Florida's Open Government and Ethics Law.pdf
INTRODUCTION OF NEW STAFF LIAISON - TIM PINTER/CHADD CHUSTZ
Chadd Chustz, Environmental Specialist introduced himself to the committee.
(2) APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Chairman Heindl suggested deferring Item 1- Review of Seawall Owners Manual, Item 2 -Evaluation of the
Committee Budget and Item 7- Review of Mission Statement for FY18. The ORI Progam should be a
continuous item on the agenda including today.
MOTION by Member Heindl, seconded by Member Fleischer, that this be
approved. MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
Yes: 6- Vice-Chair Parcelles, Chair Heindl, Fleischer, Member Sokol, Member Pierce and
Member Roth
Not Present: 1- Member Farnsworth
(3) APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Mr. Heindl advised that the document "160411 Odonnell TN statement email to CIMIU staff in ref to
hindl.pdf" attached to the minutes under Item 7 was not discussed at the last meeting and should be
removed from the minutes.
Motion by Vice Chairman Parcelles to approve the meeting minutes from the
January 19th meeting with the delection of the "160422 Odonnell TN statement
email to CMIU staff in ref to hiendl.pdf" document. Seconded by Monica Pierce.
MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
Yes: 6- Vice-Chair Parcelles, Chair Heindl, Fleischer, Member Sokol, Member Pierce and
Member Roth
Attachments: Meeting Minutes 1/17/2017.pdf
(4) STAFF COMMUNICATIONS
Chadd Chustz, Environmental Specialist advised that in December complaints regarding a plastic
sawdust plume in the canals was received. FDEP issued a memo advising that there is an issue with
current dock construction practices and there are rules governing such pollution in the surface waters and
that the best practices management should be followed. That memo has been sent to the Building
Department to be issued to contractors to educate them on dock construction best management
practices.
He also pointed out the importance of erosion control best management practices for single family homes.
This issue will be discussed further during the Stormwater Control Ordinance section of this meeting.
(5) COMMITTEE COMMUNICATIONS
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Mr. Parcelles requested that Mr. Chutsz provide a red tide report at each meeting. Mr. Chustz discussed
the February 14th red tide report from Collier County.
Attachments: 02.docx
(6) OLD BUSINESS
A. RHONDA WATKINS, PRINCIPAL ENVIRONMENTAL SPECIALIST FROM COLLIER
COUNTY ENGINEERING AND NATURAL RESOURCES DIVISION WILL PRESENT AND
DISCUSS THE MARCO ISLAND CANAL WATER MONITORING PROGRAM INCLUDING
SAMPLING LOCATION, METHODOLOGY, PARAMETERS AND LAB ANALYSIS.
Attachments: Collier County Marco WQ Presentation (1).pptx
B. TIM HALL, PRINCIPAL WITH TURRELL, HALL & ASSOCIATES MARINE AND
ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTING WILL DISCUSS DATA ANALYSIS TO BE
PERFORMED TO ADDRESS CONCERNS, TRENDS AND OTHER NOTABLE ISSUES
WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED AS A FORMAL REPORT TO THE CITY OF MARCO
ISLAND WAC IN MARCH.
Mr. Hall advised that his company has been tasked to do an analysis of the water quality that has been
collected in the last two years and compare that to the new nutrient standards so that the committee would
have an easier to understand format. This will be presented at the March meeting.
1 REVIEW OF "SEAWALL OWNER'S MANUAL"
This item was deferred.
Attachments: Seawall Owners Manual 4-14-14.pdf
2 EVALUATION OF THE COMMITTEE BUDGET FOR FY18-MR. HEINDL
This item was deferred.
3 MOORE DOCKS, SEAWALLS & LIFTS PRESENTATION - MR. MOORE
Mr. Moore informed the committee of the new type of seawall they are constructing on the island. The
True Line system does not require the use of empty lots during construction. He presented a video of the
Truline Seawall system. Scott Rainey, Engineer from Truline discussed the 75 year life expectancy of the
seawall.
There was discussion regarding having this type of seawall being included in the Seawall Manual. Mr.
Fleisher questioned if a special permit was issued to Moore Docks to construct these seawalls. Ms.
Litzan advised that due to Mr. Pinter's absence the answer to the question regarding the applicability of
our code to this product will be given at the next meeting.
(7) NEW BUSINESS
REVIEW OF MISSION STATEMENT
This item was deferred.
Attachments: WAC MISSION STATEMENT APPROVED 3-20-14(2).doc
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REVIEW OF DRAFT "CITY OF MARCO ISLAND STORMWATER CONTROL
ORDINANCE."
Mr. Chustz introduced the Storm Water Ordinance to be in compliance for the Phase II Municipal
Separate Stormwater Sewer System (MS4) National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System (NPDES)
permit.
The Ordinance will be presented to the Council for first reading on March 6th. Laura advised the action for
the committee today is to recommend this ordinance to City Council for adoption. The deadline to have
an ordinance in place is at the end of March.
A lengthy discussion followed.
Mr. Roth questioned why we don't control the storm water runoff from the roofs of single family homes.
Mr. Fleischer does not understand why this committee has been tasked with storm water management.
He feels the committee cannot control the rain and the runoff.
Mr. Heindl does not feel the wording on this ordinance is good.
Ms. Litzan advised the committee that perhaps they should take no action at this meeting. City Council
will understand and be told that the committee was not able to come to a recommendation. They will take
under advisement that the committee has a number of questions regarding the ordinance that were unable
to be answered at this time. If the committee does not choose to give their recommendation, the Council
can act without it, although that is not the preferred course of action.
PUBLIC COMMENT
Bill Trotter, 720 N. Collier Blvd.- He feels that this ordinance is not comprehensive. He thought it was
mainly aimed at new residential and commercial construction and not the real overall problem of runoff
from neighborhoods into our water or the water quality standards associated with them. He stated that we
need an overall ordinance that focuses on the overall problem such as overhauling the swales and water
quality measurements and standards. We need higher more rigorous standards. This is an opportunity for
the WAC to take the ball on this and work on this.
Sam Young, 191 Lamplighter Drive, Marco Sport Fishing Club, stated that he was advised by Councilman
Rios that the City has until April 18th to submit an ordinance back to the State to mitigate their further
investigation or scrutiny of our waterways.
Mr. Chustz advised that the City does have annual goals with the MS4 Permitting and he believes that the
deadline is in March. Mr. Chustz will make that information available to Mr. Young. Mr. Chustz advised
that the City has been working with a consultant for some time, he does not want to give the impression
that this is a document they just came up with. The consultant, the Public Works Director and the
attorneys have been working on it.
Mr. Young handed out a document to the committee members regarding the Marco Sportfishing Club
Goals and information regarding inlet filters that was presented to Council. He feels the ordinance should
be deferred to another meeting.
Bob Olsen, 900 Montego, hats off to our community for engaging in a storm water maintenance ordinance.
He suggests that the City Attorney write a letter to the FDEP and advise that this is going through the
process and once it is complete we will be able to submit it to them. This it is way to important to just
kick it forward.
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Jim Timmerman, Perrine Court- welcomed all the new members. He finds it interesting that out of the
blue this ordinance came in. He recommends against a knee jerk reaction. He understands the deadline
but there is a lot of cut and paste to meet the bare minimum requirements to comply to the MS4. If the
ultimate goal is to improve the water quality we should take time and effort to complete the ordinance and
not comply with the bare minimum.
David Rasmussen, Caxambas Court. He is concerned that this is a haphazard approach. He mentioned
the previous Fertilizer Ordinance that was passed. It is one of the contributing factors to our waterway
quality. Everything in his front yard runs into the swale and goes in to the canals.
Mr. Heindl asked Mr. Pinter for the procedural background on this.
Mr. Pinter arrived at the meeting at 11:07 AM , he advised that this document came about because of the
requirements of the Florida Department of Environmental Progection which requires a MS4 permit to
discharge water into the system. The ordinance closes a loophole on the island. If commercial
development comes into the City they must do a drainage site plan. They must get an environmental
permit from Southwest Florida Water Management. This ordinance covers the loophole for residential
properties that have not had to do any storm water analysis. This ordinance is almost a duplicate of the
City of Naples permit.
Mr. Pinter advised Mr. Heindl that the committee can forward to him changes/corrections to the ordinance
to him and he will review it with the attorney.
MOTION by Vice-Chair Parcelles, to pass the ordinance on to the Planning Board
with no substantive reccommendations other than the title of the ordinance
accurately reflect its contents. Seconded by Member Fleischer. MOTION
WITHDRAWN.
MOTION by Vice-Chair Parcelles, to pass the ordinance on to the Planning Board
with no substantive reccommendations other than the title of the ordinance
accurately reflect its contents and that the Planning Board discuss enforceablity.
Seconded by Member Fleischer. MOTION WITHDRAWN.
MOTION by Chairman Heindl, to pass the ordinance on to the Planning Board
changing the title of the ordinance to accurately reflect its contents. The
committee has heard from the community and reviewed the ordinance and
believes it should be enacted. The committee feels there should be changes but
due to the urgency of the process feels that it cannot procedurally, properly,
orderly and in detail make those proper changes. Seconded by Member Sokol.
MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
Yes: 6- Vice-Chair Parcelles, Chair Heindl, Fleischer, Member Sokol, Member Pierce and
Member Roth
Attachments: Stormwater.Ord 2-10-17.docx
(8) PUBLIC COMMENT
Mr. Timmerman updated the committee on the Ocean Habitats program. He also mentioned the
importance of the repair and replacement of the ATONS and PATONS
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Debbie Roddy, Coastal Advisory Committee updated the committee on six markers. The County has
received approval to replace these markers from the Coast Guard. Numbers 4,16 and 17 in the Big Marco
River. # 1 in Caxambas Pass will be fixed. Markers 5 and 7 will also be replaced.
Bill Young, reccommended that the committee receive documents on a timely basis in order to properly
review.
There were 12 members of the public in attendance.
(9) ADJOURN
NOTE: TWO OR MORE CITY COUNCILORS OR OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS MAY BE PRESENT
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Agenda
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Summary Agenda - Final
Waterways Advisory Committee
Thursday, February 16, 2017 9:00 AM Community Room
(1) ROLL CALL
WAC MEMBER INTRODUCTIONS
SELECTION OF CHAIR AND VICE-CHAIR
WELCOME FROM CITY COUNCIL CHAIRMAN HONIG
WELCOME FROM CITY CLERK LAURA LITZAN
ID 17-1347
Attachments: Committee Handbook.pdf
ID 17-1348
Attachments: Florida's Open Government and Ethics Law.pdf
INTRODUCTION OF NEW STAFF LIAISON - TIM PINTER/CHADD CHUSTZ
(2) APPROVAL OF AGENDA
(3) APPROVAL OF MINUTES
ID 17-1329
Attachments: Meeting Minutes 1/17/2017.pdf
(4) STAFF COMMUNICATIONS
(5) COMMITTEE COMMUNICATIONS
(6) OLD BUSINESS
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Waterways Advisory Committee Summary Agenda - Final February 16, 2017
A. RHONDA WATKINS, PRINCIPAL ENVIRONMENTAL SPECIALIST FROM
COLLIER COUNTY ENGINEERING AND NATURAL RESOURCES DIVISION WILL
PRESENT AND DISCUSS THE MARCO ISLAND CANAL WATER MONITORING
PROGRAM INCLUDING SAMPLING LOCATION, METHODOLOGY, PARAMETERS
AND LAB ANALYSIS.
B. TIM HALL, PRINCIPAL WITH TURRELL, HALL & ASSOCIATES MARINE AND
ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTING WILL DISCUSS DATA ANALYSIS TO BE
PERFORMED TO ADDRESS CONCERNS, TRNEDS AND OTHER NOTABLE
ISSUES WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED AS A FORMAL REPORT TO THE CITY OF
MARCO ISLAND WAC IN MARCH.
1 REVIEW OF "SEAWALL OWNER'S MANUAL"
ID 17-1344
Attachments: Seawall Owners Manual 4-14-14.pdf
2 EVALUATION OF THE COMMITTEE BUDGET FOR FY18-MR. HEINDL
3 MOORE DOCKS, SEAWALLS & LIFTS PRESENTATION - MR. MOORE
(7) NEW BUSINESS
REVIEW OF MISSION STATEMENT
ID 17-1349
Attachments: WAC MISSION STATEMENT APPROVED 3-20-14(2).doc
REVIEW OF DRAFT "CITY OF MARCO ISLAND STORMWATER CONTROL
ORDINANCE."
ID 17-1350
Attachments: Stormwater.Ord 2-10-17.docx
(8) PUBLIC COMMENT
(9) ADJOURN
NOTE: TWO OR MORE CITY COUNCILORS OR OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS MAY BE PRESENT
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