Common Council
Regular MeetingMiddletown, CT · February 22, 2016
Minutes
SPECIAL MEETING OF THE COMMON COUNCIL
MIDDLETOWN CONNECTICUT
FEBRUARY 22, 2016
WORKSHOP REGARDING THE SEGAL WATERS STUDY
The Special meeting of the Common Council of the City of Middletown was held in the Council Chamber of
the Municipal Building on Monday, February 22, 2016 at 7 p.m.
Present
Deputy Mayor Robert P. Santangelo and Council Members Eugene Nocera, Mary A. Bartolotta, Gerald E.
Daley, Carl R. Chisem, Robert Blanchard, Grady L. Faulkner, Jr., Sebastian N. Giuliano, Philip J. Pessina,
Deborah Kleckowski and Linda Salafia; and Common Council Clerk Marie O. Norwood.
Absent
Mayor Daniel T. Drew Council Members Thomas J. Serra, and Corporation Counsel Daniel B. Ryan.
Also Present
Kathy Morey, Human Resources Director, Brig Smith, General Counsel, Presenter: Patrick Bracken, Senior
Consultant Segal Waters Consulting and 15 members of the public.
1. Mayor Calls Meeting to Order at 7 p.m.
The Acting Chair calls the meeting to order at 7 p.m. and leads the public in the Pledge of Allegiance.
(Council Clerk Reads the Call of the Meeting and Mayor declares call a legal call and meeting a
legal meeting.)
The Acting Chair declares the call a legal call and the meeting a legal meeting.
2. Workshop Opens
A. Presentation by Segal Waters Consulting
The Acting Chair opens the workshop at 7:02 p.m. Kathy Morey gives a summary of the classification
study process since Maximus.
Patrick Bracken, Senior Consultant gives an explanation of the process used by Segal Waters to
perform the job study and compensation review. Segal Waters is a national human resources
company serving the public sector. There are four major topics. He discusses what they did giving
an overview of the process. They used JDQ's to determine FLSA status. He goes through a
PowerPoint presentation. He states they met with the stakeholders to determine the cities they lost
employees to or recruited from. They based it on where the City competes for talent. The contract
was for ten municipalities and they sent out surveys and six responded; two did not, but Segal took
additional steps by reviewing collective bargaining agreements and websites to fill out the survey;
East Hartford and Milford declined. Through these efforts they found 36 job matches from East
Hartford and 24 from Milford. They only had one job with zero matches and only 19 of the 67 had less
than 3. All the information is shown in the appendix. Benchmarks is common practice in
compensation studies. They put the survey document together they show the 67 benchmark jobs;
they asked respondents to read the job summary for the jobs they were benchmarking; we didn’t just
provide a job title but additional information as well as minimum qualifications so that when they are
and not just the title so when they are reviewing any matches that might exist, they have a description
of the job and if they do have a match it has to match at least 80% of the duties and responsibilities of
their job. We recognize that jobs are rarely defined as 100% matches and have set the 80%
demarcation that the peer employer has to meet. If the job exists with their organization and meets
the threshold, we ask them to provide the job title, pay information, workweek, union status and FLSA
status of the job. The market data in the appendix is when peer employers respond, the survey may
be incomplete and have suspect data; we clarify murky data about the jobs so we feel confident that
the job match is as strong as possible. That process means we have to strike data; if they couldn’t
substantiate that they matched on title alone, we struck that match. For benchmarks, we believe it is
the best available for the peer employer. He discusses additional information regarding the pay
scales.
He discusses findings and recommendations to modify and collapse some job classifications. Their
consolidation collapses 36 jobs into 15 and our analysis shows the creation of a new one, Meter
Reader. For Teamsters, they did FLSA tests and the report recommends six job titles from exempt to
nonexempt and four titles from nonexempt to exempt. They were also asked to migrate the
descriptions to a consistent format. It includes purpose of position, essential duties, minimum
qualifications, knowledge skills abilities, and working conditions. All the jobs follow that format and
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they created these versions in red strikeout and delivered them to the City. The job description
drafting process was from the Job Description Questionnaires and the supervisors and directors
comments were used to draft the updated job descriptions. He shows the recommendation of the
consolidation of job descriptions and reviews them.
He reviews the market study findings. They had market study information for most of the job
descriptions and when they aggregated the information for all benchmark jobs on average, the City's
market position at the minimum of the pay range is 79% of the market, 90% at the midpoint and 99%
at the max. We categorize this as below market at the minimum and midpoint and at market at the
maximum. There is a lot of below market comparison and they broke it out by Employee Groups.
He discusses those findings.
Given the dramatic below market salary study, they put together alternate pay schedules to close the
market gap. The pay structure changes they applied was a 6% increase to AFSCME pay structure,
and 0% to Teamsters and 8% to Non-Bargaining. The pay structure changes do not change all the
market gaps and some jobs were still below market; after doing the job study, there were still jobs
falling below the market value and looked at the pay grades of those jobs; in determining
compensation they also considered internal equity to the jobs. He discusses the thought process to
close the market gap. He uses the custodian job description to explain their process. This shows
the thought process they used to close the market gap and reconcile internal equity concerns.
B. Questions from Council Members
Councilman Nocera asks based on Classifications and you came up with the recommendations, I
have concerns that the research took your data from surveys and then drew up recommendations
and that can be misleading. Does your company do a triangulation process that is a more
comprehensive look at classification that includes interviewing the individuals and observation of the
sight and spending time in the field and then before recommendations to look at what is emerging
from the field? Your data could be stronger. Do they do that type of approach? Mr. Bracken asks if
you go to the Peer location to see if the job match is appropriate, we do not. He does not recall any.
Councilman Nocera asks what the interview process is. Mr. Bracken states they work with HR and
then have a dialogue if data is questionable. They had rounds of communication with the peer, but
they did not spend time on sight to ensure a more robust level of job classification. Councilman
Nocera states at 4:30, the interview was not in the scope of the contract. Mr. Bracken states it was a
question about interviewing the employees and they did not. He states they were asked to interview
stakeholders but not asked to interview employees to completing JDQ"s but sometimes they do that.
Councilman Nocera asks if that strengthens their data. Mr. Bracken states it can provide a more
fulsome understanding of an employee response.
Councilman Daley thanks him for the presentation. First you were sent a letter from Brig Smith on
January 29 with questions and concerns regarding the report that you prepared; has your firm
prepared a response to that letter and the questions and if not why not. Mr. Bracken states the
presentation was aimed at responding to the concerns. Councilman Daley states and you think you
did that. Mr. Bracken states he did attempt to explain the process. Councilman Daley asks what jobs
were benchmarks. Mr. Bracken responds 67 and contractual was 65. Councilman Daley states you
were able to get 3 or more for how many of them; Mr. Bracken responds 19 have less than 3.
Councilman Daley what about the remainder of the jobs not identified and you could not do market
comparisons; how did you slot them in pay scale. Mr. Bracken states the Custodian is a good
example because Senior Custodian is not a benchmark. Councilman Daley states your methodology
would be to retain the existing internal relations with benchmark and related jobs. Mr. Bracken states
they make the assumption that the skill set is below the market value. Councilman Daley states we
may have jobs related to a benchmark but because of an anomaly of our classification system, there
might be an improper salary relationship. Mr. Bracken replies they would not catch that or know that.
Councilman Daley states my biggest concern overall is it fair to say that a broad conclusion from the
market study is we are behind the market at the minimum pretty much on market at the midpoint and
perhaps in certain cases above the minimum and above market at the maximum. Looking at
Custodian, what you are proposing gives us market at minimum and midpoint, but above on the
maximum. Would you perpetuate the pay scale in place or create a new one. Mr. Bracken states we
used the one in place and when assigned market to 6A, then we have over market at the max, but
still below the market at the minimum. Some jobs stay below at the minimum. Councilman Daley
states it wasn't in the scope of your study to suggest that the design of the pay structures be adjusted
instead of a 30% spread, you might go to a 25% spread to allow bringing up the minimum and bring
down the maximum. Most employees will progress through the pay grade to the maximum and we
will end up paying more at the maximum. Mr. Bracken states he is looking for a table in the report.
What we thought is the structure changes that were necessary is the midpoint of the grade it was the
least amount of structure requirement to make the job description changes. We tried to minimize the
cost to the city. Councilman Daley states it would be possible to look at the ranges themselves and
see if modification of the spread made sense. Mr. Bracken states we would have calculated the pay
rates and it is between 35-55% and if it was only 10% it would have been an alarm bell when setting
pay scales. Councilman Daley asks what type of progression do you expect to see. Mr. Bracken
responds from 5 - 10%. Councilman Daley states he doesn't understand some of the conclusions
you made regarding the market conclusions. Mr. Bracken states in the table we showed of the
Custodian, the far right is the dollar difference between the midpoints between the proposed grades.
Those values do not relate to where the employees are in the range.
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Councilwoman Bartolotta asks about the JDQ's and would like a better understanding and leads to
the job description outcomes. The JDQ, what was asked? Did you review the original job
descriptions or did you ask for only new types of duties. Mr. Bracken states the last pages are the
JDQ. Bracken states the full questionnaire is here and that is the actual document that employees
completed. Our instruction during the presentations is that job descriptions were being provided to
refer to; as they went about completing our document, they were provided the document from their
job descriptions and if there were accurate information. He told employees not to just wholesale the
information from their job into the JDQ. We were told the information in the job descriptions were out
of date and didn't reflect their current job descriptions. Councilwoman Bartolotta states they were
given their actual job description and JDQ given out and they were told to put what they were doing
above and beyond the job description. Mr. Bracken states no; we stated to take the current
information and if you still did it to include it and include any new information. Bracken states we can
walk through the JDQ. They were to take the sections of the job description they were doing and
then add in any other duties.
The Acting Chair states there is no public comment; it is a workshop.
Councilwoman Bartolotta states did you refer every employee to their job description. Kathy Morey
states the employees were told not to directly copy their current job description into the JDQ but to
answer the questions to the best of their ability. Employees who asked for job descriptions were
given the job description and we encouraged them to go through their director and for those who did
not obtain the job description, they provided them. Councilwoman Bartolotta asks the purpose of the
JDQ, if you are not reviewing the original job description then what would they put in the JDQ. Mr.
Bracken states we tried that approach that have job descriptions that are up to date, they didn't think
it was appropriate to start from scratch. They asked for a process that they were reacting to instead
of creating the responses. We were told that job descriptions were out of date and our
recommendations were to embark on this process to have the job description as a resource.
Councilwoman Bartolotta states she doesn't understand the thought process if they have a job
description and that is what they were doing then looking at what they are doing beyond the job
description. That is what we were looking for and you were recommended. We wanted to make sure
that everyone had a chance to have their jobs reviewed. With that being said what we were looking
for was the Maximus study and it was past its due and could not be used any longer. When the
request for the study, we asked to make sure that all job descriptions were up to date, but the JDQ's
should have been how is the job outdated and tell us how to have the jobs reviewed and to have
everyone reviewed and the outcome, we will have to deal with finance. Who requested for the job
descriptions to be collapsed into one another and they should not be collapsed. We went from
trying to clear up what people are doing and giving duties to others. Mr. Bracken states there was not
a request to collapse titles and one of the tasks is to ensure there is sufficient difference in work to
have different titles; there is overlap in classifications and we keep an eye for opportunities for
cleaning up jobs if there isn't a distinction of job duties. We did that for some because there was not
enough distinction to warrant a separate job and they looked at a new job description to cover those
that were collapsed. Councilwoman Bartolotta states she understands and thought it should have
been a recommendation and that is what is not sitting well, I look at the employees and now I have to
go to someone else to get the work done because duties were removed. We needed something to
use to see that every employee is reviewed properly every year and that is my understanding of the
study. I refused to vote on upgrades because people are left out of the process and now I have 1-1/2
employees under one title and we are a Union based employer. If you weren't asked to collapse
them, that is my concern. We can't put it forth in the condition it is. Mr. Bracken states one in terms
of having all employees in the process, Middletown was interested in having transparency, education
requirements and skills and we believe having the same questionnaire going to every employee is
how to do that. Our report is recommendations and the City is welcome to adopt in whole or in part
the report. We utilize our expertise all over the country and those changes are warranted and the
City can move forward in pieces or not. For internal reasons they can accept pieces of what we
found and in other fronts they don't. Councilwoman Bartolotta hopes she can look at the report and
see if anything is salvageable or we can't use it at all. She asks she doesn't remember the
collapsing; the recommendation was to update the job descriptions and that we fit in the market
correctly. MS Morey responds that was the ultimate goal; regarding the collapsing, they were not
requested to do that, it was a recommendation to do that and they asked if we would be open to that
and we looked at some of the positions; we gave the go ahead to make their recommendations if they
thought it was worthy to do. We were looking for the report in full. This is their recommendation.
Councilwoman Bartolotta asks who moved forward with moving forward with the recommendations.
General Counsel Smith states it is based on the HR Director but it was my approval. Councilwoman
Bartolotta asks this was decided from committee to agree to something that was not part of the
committee to allow recommendations to collapse job descriptions we can't use, it is frustrating.
Attorney Smith responds if we went through the committee process to make all the decisions, we
would still be meeting in committee. Councilwoman Bartolotta states a significant part of the report is
the recommendation to collapse and now the descriptions don't fit the employees. She asks about
the JDQ's and if it went to the Department Director; Mr. Bracken responds it went to the Supervisor
first and then Director. Councilwoman Bartolotta states they had to sign and did you make sure they
all signed them. Mr. Bracken states they did not reconcile that Directors reviewed them. Ms. Morey
states they did not when they were receiving them and she found that some director's didn't sign off
and they allowed the supervisor to sign off instead of the director and that occurred at the BOE and
the principals were designated as that authority. Councilwoman Bartolotta states if the director gave
the responsibility to the supervisor it should have been signed and noted on the JDQ’s if they were
inaccurate, we handed it off. Mr. Bracken states they use the JDQs. Councilwoman Bartolotta states
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you don't have anything in place to see if it is filled out accurately. Mr. Bracken responds there is no
failsafe for what the employee filled out; that would come from two additional layers the supervisor
and the director. Councilwoman Bartolotta states if it wasn't done, then the failsafe was not in place.
Mr. Bracken replies we had some robust information provided by supervisor and directors; they did
have layers of review to add to the clarity when we put together our recommendations.
Councilwoman Bartolotta asks if they can separate the collapsing and send those job descriptions to
the City or that is something they no longer can do. Mr. Bracken states anything in the job is subject
to impact bargaining. Councilwoman Bartolotta asks if they can separate the collapsing of jobs made
by your recommendation and instead have a job description for those individuals. Mr. Bracken
replies our recommendation is based on our review and based on the information you provided
maintaining those jobs is not necessary. My perspective from what we know, those classifications
should be collapsed. Councilwoman Bartolotta states in the new job description, do you have a value
for that part to clean up and separate the job descriptions again to know what to take out and the
worth in the market. Mr. Bracken replies what one duty in a job description and market pricing we
didn't do that. Our market pricing is based on the whole job and not one duty. I suppose if you
accepted the edited job descriptions and which to accept or reject, it could cull out the duties that are
resident in a JD to accomplish a revised job description. Based on the information we were given, the
job should be encapsulated into one job. Councilwoman Bartolotta we could not utilize that.
Ms. Morey clarifies the question about directors and some who did not sign off and she clarifies that
no JDQ’s were submitted unless they came through the Director’s office and forwarded electronically
through the Department. Councilwoman Bartolotta states they all went through the director, but it
doesn’t mean they were reviewed and signed by the director.
Councilman Pessina states he is perplexed with this whole issue and he was not on the Council for
two years and knows what they did and based on the comments from Council Members Nocera and
Bartolotta, if the City stuck with what the Council requested, they would not be having these issues.
This report is a systematic analysis of positions, but without the key element of review by the
employees. You have supervisors and directors and are only good as the workforce and they know
the jobs they have to get done. That is the weak point of this. You had some people you spoke to,
but you didn’t sit down to see what each employee does. As part of the process and some of the
recommendations, labor in the City has a lot to do as representatives of the employees; were they
part of the stakeholder process, the Union Leadership. Were they brought into the process at all.
Attorney Smith states that is when the unions would be notified. First it was the experts coming in to
tell us what compensation should be from the information employees provided to us. Depending on
that, then we impact bargaining. Councilman Pessina asks if they got the best input from the
employees, the best information and some had to send in the JDQ’s and employees not spoken to,
but it would seem to him, in his department, I would have had some kind of open meeting to go
through the employees so when they filled out the JDQ’s that our employees had a voice and now we
have to vote on this. Attorney Smith states they tried our best; the process put in place was a JDQ,
the same, getting job descriptions out trying to hear from everyone. He had two days with Segal
Waters; was it the best, it was the best for $90,000. In the past, we had something more robust and
bigger than this. We wanted to get everyone’s feedback and we tried hard. Councilman Pessina
states Council gave you a road map to answer questions that they needed to make decisions and he
believes the roadmap was deviated from. Was there any feedback from the Council that you were
taking a detour. Attorney Smith would not say it was a detour. They have 187 job classifications.
For a city of our size, they get outdated and part of that the consultant tells us we have jobs that are
alike and so alike they should be a single job and a single title. I don’t see anything wrong with that
because we should be doing things efficiently and standardized. Councilman Pessina states he
thinks the human element is missing. The Analysis did what they did but missed an opportunity to
hear from employees and make sure it is the best practice. With due respect, It doesn’t give me a
good feeling to support this.
Councilwoman Kleckowski asks to address questions to Attorney Smith. She asks about how they
decided on the ten municipalities and are they in our genre. Attorney Smith responds part of what we
did is we have the former CCM labor analyst and he is on staff and worked with Patrick on this. Mr.
Bracken when he interfaced with directors and other stakeholders, we asked where they recruit from,
where they lose employees to, what employers are you bumping up against in hiring decisions and
we passed the information to the team to round out that list. Councilwoman Kleckowski states the
study came about because Maximum was antiquated and the HR department complained they
couldn’t make promotions because they had nothing to judge from because Maximus is outdated.
That is how it came to be. There was no rubric to make decisions from. This is a redirection of job
descriptions but not a rubric to upgrade jobs. My second point is, who gave the direction to the City
directors. There seems to be disagreement how directions were presented. We have the study, did
you have face to face meetings and how did it trickle down to the employees. Attorney Smith
discusses Maximus and part of the problem is it is an old study and a point factor system and it
wasn’t doing what it needed to do. With dissemination of information, there was a taped training and
there were sessions with the employees and we worked with the directors. Mr. Bracken states with
regard to Maximus, one of the items brought to their attention is that the City did not fully utilize
external market comparisons in advising what pay grades be assigned to job titles; one of the tasks
was to help the city devise a more market sensitive classification compensation system. It provides
the City our recommendations based on external comparisons as well as internal equity concerns.
What the City had before was much more focused on the internal equity process. The reclassification
process, the City was experiencing a lot of these and their experience is when clients are dealing with
that event it is symptomatic on how the classifications are described or disconnects with what
employees are doing and their job description. With that information, we then devised a plan which
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was the job analysis. Councilwoman Kleckowski states the HR director spoke about signoffs and if
employees wrote something and the supervisor did not agree, did it go on to you. Mr. Bracken
responds it did; supervisors were instructed not to modify what the employee wrote; they had an area
to provide feedback and the directors had their own discrete area as well. In no instance was a JDQ
not to be forwarded if no one reviewed the JDQ. Councilwoman Kleckowski asks if the employee
saw what the supervisor wrote. Mr. Bracken responds that came up in the sessions and they told
supervisors if there was a difference of opinion, the supervisor should reach out to the employee and
collaborate and work to come up with a mutually agreed upon response before it was being submitted
to us. Councilwoman Kleckowski asks how the employees know. Mr. Bracken states they told
supervisors if they had contradictory responses, they should reach out to employees. Councilwoman
Kleckowski responds from the shaking of heads, it looks like that wasn’t done. She states there is
some concern about how this was actually done; my understanding is you sent out the survey and
employees were told not to cut and paste but to add what was different. Mr. Bracken responds he will
clarify; they were to review their job description and copy and paste only the accurate information into
the job questionnaire and if it is not a full response, they would add to it. Our perspective is there is
valuable information in the job description and not appropriate to retype if the job description is
accurate. They needed to add additional information if it was not sufficient. Councilwoman
Kleckowski asks how it was communicated. Mr. Bracken states the same presentation was given to
employee groups of all departments and same information provided at every session. Councilwoman
Kleckowski asks why unions were not part of the stakeholder discussions to begin with. Attorney
Smith responds that Justin reminded me that a session was recorded so you can see what was said.
Regarding the union issue, the place for that was for impact bargaining and not the front end.
Councilwoman Kleckowski wants to reiterate that their impression was to add only what is different.
This is some of the contentiousness and how the information was disseminate and that doesn’t seem
to match what you are saying.
Councilwoman Faulkner states I would like to know if we have a percentage of employees that asked
for the job description. Justin Richardson responds those employees that asked were given them; no
one was denied their job description. We directed them through their department heads. I do not
know the percentage. Councilwoman Faulkner asks in terms of pay, nothing here deals with
contract particulars. That is not evaluated. Mr. Bracken states it is not; we were asked to do salary
comparisons. Councilman Faulkner asks compared jobs between departments did you look at that.
Mr. Bracken asks the salary side. Councilman Faulkner responds the job descriptions. Mr. Bracken
states we were not asked to evaluate department structure, but we did look at job title; they did
collapse some jobs and it would reflect one title. Councilman Faulkner states did they have similar
union representation in the towns. Mr. Bracken states it varied; with the two they did the
comparisons, they could only get it through contracts. Councilman Faulkner states a lot was made by
the choice of the cities; is there something about the comparables. Mr. Bracken states they put
together a summary table like population, number of employees and geographic proximity to
Middletown.
Acting Chair Santangelo states we have ten minutes more time on the DVD; we will take a recess
and come back after that. Councilman Giuliano states you sent the same questionnaire to every
employee and you did not go by the job description. Mr. Bracken responds we did not use the job
descriptions to validate whether information was accurate but did use the job descriptions; they edited
current job descriptions. Councilman Giuliano asks if they had them before or after the questionnaire.
Mr. Bracken they had the job description. Councilman Giuliano states did you have the questionnaire
exist before the job descriptions were given to you. Mr. Bracken replies they have a template.
Councilman Giuliano asks if they are aware of the legal significance of them and accepted by the
Council. Mr. Bracken responds they were not aware of the process. Councilman Giuliano states
why would you not send them to edit a job description and then add in any new duties. Mr. Bracken
replies they have used the process with entities across the country. Councilman Giuliano states
would the process be better as he described. Mr. Bracken states he doesn't think it would have been
better. Councilman Giuliano states the same questionnaire to the water treatment person and a
director. Mr. Bracken yes. Councilman Giuliano states without the job description you have no frame
of reference. You have the employees perception of what they are doing without regard what they
should be doing. Mr. Bracken disagrees because of the supervisors and directors. Councilman
Giuliano states he doesn't know how you don't start with what they are legally required to do and he
doesn't see how you get an idea of what they are doing. Councilman Giuliano states, looking at the
ten municipalities, who picked that list. Mr. Bracken states it is a collaborative effort. Councilman
Giuliano asks if it is a reference group by CCM. Mr. Bracken replies he doesn't know. Councilman
Giuliano asks on your presentation on page 11 methodology, the deputy fire chief, is that
representative for every job. Mr. Bracken responds all benchmark jobs were treated the same.
Councilman Giuliano states when you describe it, above the 3 lines in grey, you averaged it and then
compared them. Why not include Middletown. Mr. Bracken responds because your labor market
would exclude you. Councilman Giuliano states doesn't our figures affect the averages. Mr. Bracken
replies mathematically, yes but conceptually it is outward facing markets, where you draw or lose
employees. Councilman Giuliano states based on the assumption we are trying to hire or retain, they
are looking at these communities. You are assuming they won't come from a community outside the
ten. Mr. Bracken states the study was for ten and these ten were deemed comparable. Councilman
Giuliano states if they were doing Wallingford, we would be there but not Wallingford. Mr. Bracken
explains yes. Councilman Giuliano states a recruitment is not the same as seeing how our pay
grades match a pool of communities. Mr. Bracken replies recruitment is only one factor and he lists
many more. Councilman Giuliano states in my world our salary parameters influence the other ten
just as they influence us. Mr. Bracken responds and it is a different analytical approach. You would
not generate a bell curve; you would need many more. Councilman Giuliano states you are putting
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me into a set of statistics but being compared from the outside and he is not sure of the reasons.
There are other factors that affect recruitment so why do it that way. What use is the report at all?
Mr. Bracken advises the full council and we have always used this methodology and we are asked to
use a different type of analysis but 95 -98 of our reports and competitors would give you this type of
structure.
Motion to Recess
The Acting Chair states there is five minutes left on the DVD; he asks for a motion to recess.
Councilwoman Kleckowski moves to recess and is seconded by Councilwoman Salafia. The Acting
Chair declares the recess at 8:57 p.m.
Meeting Reconvenes
The Acting Chair calls the meeting to order at 9:08 p.m.
Councilman Nocera is recognized and states that this should not be based on a single survey that
may or may not have been signed off by supervisors or department heads and on classification and
compensation side the survey process was also, the emphasis on how you collected the data. I
would support recommendations that have a more comprehensive approach to gathering data than a
single survey. Mr. Bracken asks if you want a response. Councilman Nocera if that is a practice of
your company, I find it hard to believe, that a single approach is used. Mr. Bracken states the
methodology used is in line with the vast majority of projects they do in these areas. Boards and
Councils might not feel it is a fully informed comparison and we get asked to collect benefit
information as well as pay and combine them to inform about the competitiveness for compensation.
Councilman Nocera states as several others have stated that by not providing our employees the job
description which they may or may not have read or fully understand, by not providing that as a
frame of reference to look at what they are currently doing and add what is missing, we don’t know if
the data is accurate nor did he hear there was a clear plan to guide our employees through the
process to be certain they understood what they had to do and the importance of the information they
are providing and the compensation is also survey type data and I have concerns about; without
probing further that there can be inaccuracies and nuances from town to town that surveys will not
provide that information. Mr. Bracken states on the survey points you were raising, our perspective is
the onsite employee training days on the JDQ most clients find that a great way to let the employees
know what is expected. The JDQ is what is used to create the job descriptions; not all employees
have the same ability to fill out the questionnaire which is why we suggested that supervisors and
directors review the JDQ. On the compensation questions, doing a custom survey is common
practice and we recognize that the job matching might cause concern and it is part art and part
science and when evaluating a job match there is some subjectivity and we have done this many
times and get a feel if a job is a match and if not, we go back to the peer to find a better match.
Councilman Nocera is glad to hear you think it is an art and science.
Councilwoman Salafia asks how many job questionnaires did you get back and were any missing.
Mr. Bracken states he doesn’t have the tracking sheet. Justin Richardson made sure they had a
JDQ filled out for each job to make a match. We have 40 cafeteria workers, if only 20 wanted to do it,
we went with that. Councilwoman Salafia states on the website there is a new listing of the new job
descriptions and it is the previous job description edited. Are you going to review them; there was
discussion of duties left out. Will you review them. Mr. Bracken responds out deliverable is the
redlined strikeout job descriptions to Human Resources; our proposal outlines that HR then takes
responsibility to finalize them. Councilwoman Salafia asks when they were sent. Mr. Bracken replies
it was so long ago, he doesn’t know. Councilwoman Salafia states if the job descriptions are part of
your final report. Mr. Bracken states they are referenced and delivered to the City. Councilwoman
Salafia asks the status of the report. Mr. Bracken responds it is final. Councilwoman Salafia asks if
there are any changes or is it the same as the draft. Mr. Bracken responds only changes were the
date and removal of the draft watermark. Councilwoman Salafia has questions on the job
descriptions. Who is going to review them for accuracy of the duties performed and should be
performed. Attorney Smith states that is the next step after reviewing the report. We don’t know.
Councilwoman Salafia states maybe she needs the definition of impact bargaining. Attorney Smith
replies it is dependent on the issue. Councilwoman Salafia states since the job descriptions are
approved by Council, then each one should be addressed through impact bargaining. Attorney Smith
states the job descriptions that capture what the employee is now doing does not need impact
bargaining; the compensation piece does if we agree it is what they are doing for what the salary is.
Councilwoman Salafia states she looked at her former job description and it is all new; you would not
get your W-2 form or 1099 form and your pension is no longer being paid if you leave it as it is.
Attorney Smith responds there is the language that this is not inclusive of all duties. Councilwoman
Salafia replies it took out pensions completely. It just says quarterly reports. Attorney Smith
responds that the job description does not list everything a person does in the job. Councilwoman
Salafia states it should at least mention pension for the person who handles pension for the city.
From the ones I looked at you have a problem with the job descriptions and I would be hard pressed
to accept the study the way it is. From those I looked at, they all need to be adjusted. Who is going
to do that. Attorney Smith states it is the next step and it would be my office working with General
Counsel Commission. Councilwoman Salafia asks if the job descriptions have been dispersed to all
employees. Attorney Smooth states they have not been sent individually, but they are all online.
Councilwoman Salafia asks how long they were on line. Attorney Smith states for months.
Councilwoman Salafia states impact bargaining we could or could not discuss every job description.
Attorney Smith states the next step would not exclude the Unions. Councilwoman Salafia doesn’t
want to accept this because she doesn’t want to be locked into the job descriptions. Attorney Smith
states we wouldn’t do that.
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Councilwoman Kleckowski states the revised job descriptions, did they go back to employees to
make edits and additions. Mr. Bracken states the revised descriptions we sent to HR. Councilwoman
Kleckowski asks if they went to employees and were reviewed and sent back to you. Mr. Bracken
replies there was only one review cycle and we made changes to the job descriptions and sent them
to HR. Councilwoman Kleckowski asks Kathy Morey if employees had a chance to review the job
descriptions or are they only online. MS Morey replies individuals were not sent their individual
revised job descriptions; they were put on line and they were advised by their departments and
unions they were online. Councilwoman Kleckowski states they are in the Segal report and not just
online. MS Morey responds that is correct. Councilwoman Kleckowski states on General Counsel
we were told there were questions brought by the Union and asked to submit to General Counsel
Office and then forwarded to Segal Water for answers; is there a list of those questions and have
they been specifically answered. Ms. Morey states the concerns that came through from unions, they
forwarded that to our office and the Office of General Counsel forwarded to Segal Waters.
Councilwoman Kleckowski asks if it was received and were they answered. Mr. Bracken states they
received a packet of information and we asked the City to summarize the concerns; they did send us
a letter from late January and we put together our presentation today to address those questions.
Councilwoman Kleckowski would have felt better if you had presented the question and the response.
Mr. Bracken states it would be easier to understand if they did a PowerPoint presentation on how the
process was conducted and the methodology used. Some of the questions blended topics and would
have been difficult to answer those questions. MS Morey states some of those questions were also
addressed in this afternoon’s workshop; they attempted to respond to some of the questions and the
Union leadership reiterated their concerns. Councilwoman Kleckowski asks if they were addressed in
the report. Mr. Bracken states we feel the report explains some of the questions asked and tonight’s
sessions was to provide additional information to answer the questions.
Councilman Giuliano states he wants to be clear questionnaires went out and were satisfied that if
you received one from each category, you were satisfied? Mr. Bracken responds they were not
satisfied; they would like to have 100% employee compliance. We used information provided to us.
Councilman Giuliano afterwards the relined job descriptions as part of the report, it was up to the
employees to look at those and decide whether the changes were still accurate in their minds or not.
Mr. Bracken responds that was not part of their process. Councilman Giuliano states it appears to
me that is what happened. That job description was not forwarded to the employee and asking them
if this is what they are doing; that was not done. Mr. Bracken replies that was not part of our process
but the job descriptions were available to the employees. Councilman Giuliano states they were
available but again unless an employee took the initiative to look and review it and determine if it is
accurate and if it is not, they have to go to personnel and if they don’t do that, then what we have is
what we have. Mr. Bracken states yes. Councilman Giuliano states if you were not given the proper
guidance as to what the City wanted you couldn’t do it; he doesn’t know if the methodology was
reviewed. Mr. Bracken states what is in the RFP is what was summarized tonight. Councilman
Giuliano states no one went over our peculiarities. Mr. Bracken states they did have an initial
meeting and spoke to senior leadership about what we were envisioning about this and if there were
concerns about employees and disseminating the questionnaire, there was preplanning. Councilman
Giuliano states there was no councilmanic input at that point. We have to determine what use to
make of this or not. Councilwoman Kleckowski for those who submitted reviews, an employee looked
at the job description as edited and it doesn’t work, what happened then. Mr. Bracken states some of
the information was in the packet and saw a comment about inaccuracies and our request was to
summarize the concerns on clarifications. Councilwoman Kleckowski states there were not changes
made. Mr. Bracken states that is correct. Attorney Smith clarifies when the draft report came out, we
notified the union leadership and ask for feedback from them.
3. Workshop Closes.
4. Meeting adjourned.
Councilman Nocera moves for adjournment and is seconded by Councilwoman Kleckowski. The vote
is unanimous and the Acting Chair adjourns the meeting at 9:34 pm
ATTEST:
MARIE O. NORWOOD
COMMON COUNCIL CLERK
Agenda
SPECIAL MEETING
FEBRUARY 22, 2016
7 P.M.
AGENDA
WORKSHOP – 2014-2015 CLASSIFICATION AND COMPENSATION STUDY
COMPLETED BY SEGTAL WATERS CONSULTING
1. Mayor Calls Meeting to Order
(Pledge of Allegiance)
(Council Clerk Reads the Call of the Meeting and Mayor declares call a legal call
and meeting a legal meeting.)
2. Workshop Opens
A. Presentation by Segal Waters Consulting
B. Questions from Council Members
3. Workshop Closes.
4. Meeting adjourned.
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