Public Works & Facilities Commission
Regular MeetingMiddletown, CT · January 11, 2023
Minutes
PUBLIC WORKS & FACILITIES COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING AMENDED MINUTES
WEDNESDAY JANUARY 11, 2023
TIME: 6:30 P.M.
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Members Present: Councilman Gene Nocera
Councilman Ed McKeon
Councilman Mike Marino
Staff Present: Christopher M. Holden, P.E., Director of Public Works
Howard Weissberg, P.E., Deputy Director of Public Works
Cathy Lechowicz, Director of Recreation
Rohan Manning, Chief Management Analyst
Mike Doherty- SLR
Public: Philip Nettis, Brian Kronenberger, Don Degennaro, Beth Williams, Jill Chase and Mark Fiderio
The meeting was called to order by Councilman Nocera at 6:30 p.m. Councilman Marino moved to
approve the Meeting Minutes dated December 14, 2022. Councilman McKeon seconded the motion.
The motion passed unanimously. Councilman Marino made a motion to amend the agenda to add
Pameacha Avenue road closure as new business item b. Councilman McKeon seconded the motion and
it was approved unanimously.
PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEMS:
Brian Kronenberger of 1480 Randolph Road stated that he wanted to follow through with the original
comments about Old Road Drive last meeting. It’s currently a private road. The residents of that road
would like to understand the mechanics of going forward with their concerns and beyond the comments
he had made last month, wanted to state there was a second fire in October in this neighborhood. There
is not water in the area so it makes access by emergency vehicles very important. He also stated that the
storm drainage that ends up partially up Old Road Drive is tied in by the City. Storm drains on Country
Club and Stantack feed into the drainage system that goes behind a property along Country Club Road.
The catch basin that is on Old Road Drive is higher than the grade so it floods. The road will flood if the
drain is obstructed. The last thing he added was that the City had previously had plans to add a water
tower off of Atkins Street. He would like to know what became of that plan.
Jill Chase of 37 Old Road Drive stated that she is requesting it be deemed a public road or that the road
be maintained by the City to safety standards as is done with adjoining roads Country Club, Stantack
Road, Footit Drive and Old Farms West. She states that there continues to be financial inequities for the
residents of Old Road Drive as they pay out of pocket for street maintenance and continue to pay City
and Fire Tax. She mirrored concerns Mr. Kronenberger stated including safety and drainage issues.
Additional issues with the streets electrical needs and tree maintenance need to be addressed.
Philip Nettis of 149 Dripps Rd shared that he met with Deputy Director Weissberg. He stated that a fire
truck recently could not make it up his road when 911 was called.
Don Degennaro of 148 Old Road Drive is a neighbor of Mr. Bennett, whose home burned down last year.
The residents of that street feel that something does need to be done to assure safety of the street. He
almost lost his home too as the Fire Department had a hard time accessing the road during the fire that
burned down Mr. Bennett’s home. The Fire Department did the best they could to keep up with the fire
but the closest hydrants are a mile away. He stated that there are several elderly people that rely on
being able to access emergency services through an ambulance.
Beth Williams of 171 Old Road Drive stated that she is the farthest house from the mailboxes on Country
Club Road. She stated that if her home were to ever catch on fire they wouldn’t be able to get up the
road before it burned to the ground. As it stands in an emergency situation where the fire department
needs to respond the fire trucks stay on the street on Country Club Road and a supervisor comes up the
road to assess the situation before any trucks come up the hill. This can result in a delay to response
time. She stated that she is under the impression that when originally asked the Fire Chief or Marshall
stated that they would not have an issue with fighting a fire up there. She stated that any service truck
have a hard time getting up the road. She states that as it is a private road and she owns property, if a
member of the public comes onto the road, which they do to ride bikes and walk dogs, and is injured,
she would be partially liable for damages. She stated in years past her and her husband would put 5-10
tons of asphalt down to patch the road. She states she feels short changed and now that she is older she
can’t run fast enough to beat a fire if something were to happen. She stated that if Stantack is
maintained, as is a building that technically sits on Meriden property and does not pay Middletown
taxes, this road should be maintained as well.
Mark Fiderio of 159 Old Road Drive stated that they are asking for road maintenance, especially in the
winter, as the city has the equipment to be able to do so much more easily.
CORRESPONDENCE:
Not discussed
NEW BUSINESS:
a. Meeting Schedule- Director Holden shared that the meeting schedule will keep the Public Works
Commission meeting at the normal scheduled dates and times for the 2023 year. Councilman
Marino made a motion to accept the schedule. Councilman McKeon seconded the motion. It passed
unanimously.
b. Pameacha Avenue Road Closure- Councilman Marino questioned whether Pameacha Road would be
shut down with jersey barriers at either end. Director Holden stated that it is the case and that it is due
to a significant disruption due to a sewer line that is going in. Eventually there will be additional
drainage and reconstruction performed. Deputy Director Weissberg stated there is a detailed detour
plan outlined in the project. Councilman Marino questioned why the normal procedure of metal plates
being put down to allow access of vehicles isn’t being done in this case. Director Holden stated that
plates in the road during the winter time can affect plowing efforts and cause significant issues. The
road closure has been coordinated with emergency services. Parking issues related to this project have
been worked out.
OLD BUSINESS:
a. Monarca Drive – Deputy Director Weissberg stated that the Chief Engineer has been looking at
grading requirements that would bring the road up to City standards in addition to developing the
turning templates for vehicles for the horizontal curve. There are steep grades on both sides of the
street which make it a challenge. Councilman McKeon asked if there could be a little report on how we
are doing on finding the appropriate staff for the Public Works Department. Director Holden stated that
there used to be an Assistant Chief Engineer but it doesn’t exist anymore. There have been attempts to
add it to the budget in previous years but it had not been approved.
b. Dog Park Update- Deputy Director Weissberg stated that they have done a deep dive into the dog
park committee possibility, including the potential of an ad hock committee and it would require the
creation of an ordinance and have it passed. It is recommended that the dog park stay as a standing
item on the agenda under the Public Works Commission. This would allow things to go much quicker
than to go through the committee process.
c. Recreation Center Update – Director Holden stated the floor in the pool and some small punch list
items need to be done. Director Lechowicz shared that they are up and running with some activities
during their soft opening.
d. Veterans Pool and Splash Pad Update – Director Holden stated that the pool is in. Work is being done
on retaining walls. Interior work continues including building walls.
e. Saybrook Rd/ Dripps Rd Update- Deputy Director Weissberg shared he met with Mr. Nettis in the
field. He stated that drainage issues on Saybrook Road need to be addressed. He stated that the Police
Department approved signage for Dripps Road as a no parking beyond this point, roughly 180 feet in.
Concepts are being drafted to possibly help alleviate some of the drainage issues.
f. Old Road Drive Update- Director Holden stated that in August of 2021 was when this issue originally
been brought to the Public Works Commission for review. The Chief Engineer had, at that time, come up
with reconstruction of the road. As it is, it does not meet City standards. Test pits have not been done at
this time. The cost has not been updated but back in August of 2021 it was estimated that it would cost
over $1 million to bring the road up to City standards. Developers are the biggest beneficiaries to
developing private streets as they do not have to meet City standards and the City has no control over
how they develop the areas. The commission at that time did not take action to make it a City street.
Councilman Marino asked what the next step would be to see if this could become a City street. Director
Holden said that the Public Works Commission would need to endorse it and it would then go to the
Common Council for review. He shared again that it would cost a significant amount of money to bring it
up to City standards and if it were to be accepted and not brought up to standards the City would be
liable in the event something happened. There would be a whole legal process to establish where the
road goes. Councilman McKeon stated he feels that we need to work with the Planning Department
about private roads because that is where the root of the problem is. He also stated that he thinks there
needs to be a plan because there are safety and health liabilities in regards to these properties.
Councilman Nocera asked that the City Engineer do a new assessment to see what it would cost to bring
Old Road Drive to City standards. Councilman McKeon made a motion and Councilman Marino seconded
it. There was no objection. Director Holden stated that the City Engineer does have a plan for this and it
will be reviewed for the next meeting. The councilman requested that City legal counsel be present at
the next meeting to discuss this process. Councilman McKeon made a motion to organize a meeting with
the Planning Department to discuss how to address these issues. Councilman Marino seconded the
motion. There was no objection and the motion passed. This will be a standing agenda item.
OTHER: Reported on by Christopher Holden
a. Department Updates- OT was used for snow clearing and salting. There was some OT for leaves.
b. December 2022 Monthly Report - Highway Division- Nothing additional to OT report.
c. December 2022 Monthly Report - Parks Division – Parks does have an underground storage tank
that sucked in some water. The tank will be removed.
d. December 2022 Public Works Overtime Report- Nothing additional to department update.
e. December 2022 Building Permits – $681,000 in Building Permits. There have been some large
projects for Wesleyan ongoing.
PUBLIC COMMENT ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS: None
Adjourn – As there were no further questions the meeting adjourned at 7:35 p.m.
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