Planning Commission
Regular MeetingMillcreek, UT · August 16, 2017
Minutes
Millcreek
3932 South 500 East
Millcreek, UT 84107
Phone: 385-468-6700
www.millcreek.utah.gov
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MEETING MINUTE SUMMARY
MILLCREEK PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
Wednesday, August 16, 2017 5:00 p.m.
(Approved on January 17,2018)
Approximate meeting length: 4 hours 13 minutes *NOTE: Staff Reports referenced in this document can be
Number of public in attendance: 25 found on the State and County websites, or from Salt Lake
County Planning & Development Services.
Summary Prepared by: Wendy Gurr
Meeting Conducted by: Commissioner Healey
ATTENDANCE
Public Business
Commissioners Absent
Mtg Mtg
Tom Stephens (Chair) x
Fred Healey (Vice Chair) x x Public Business
Planning Staff / DA
Mtg Mtg
Shawn LaMar x x
David Carlson x x Wendy Gurr x x
Scott Claerhout x x Spencer Hymas x x
Mark Mumford x Todd Draper
Heather Wilson x Tom Zumbado x
Dave Allen x x Alex Murphy x x
Russ Booth x x Max Johnson
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Hearings began at – 5:00 p.m.
Commissioner Healey advised he will recuse himself from file number 30424. Commissioner Allen will act
in his place.
30459 – (Continued from 06/21 and 07/19/2017) - A Public Hearing will be held to modify and eventually
eliminate the M-1 and M-2 zoning districts, Chapters, 19.66 and 19.68, within Millcreek. The purpose of
the hearing is to consider proposed Manufacturing zoning modifications to the M-1, and M-2 zoning
ordinances for consolidation into one single light manufacturing zone. A new light Manufacturing Zone
would replace the current M-1 and M-2 zones. No changes to zoning district boundaries are proposed. The
draft ordinance can be reviewed on the City’s website under
https://millcreekut.org/planningzoning/pending-zoning-amendment-proposals. Planner: John Janson
John Janson provided an analysis of changes from the last meeting and submission of letters from citizens.
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PUBLIC PORTION OF MEETING OPENED
Speaker # 1: Citizen, Valley Leasing
Name: Art Vanderlinden
Address: 3984 South 500 West
Comments: Mr. Vanderlin said they are against this zoning change. He believes most businesses in the
area are zoned for what they are doing. If it was zoned the way that is being proposed, they wouldn’t be
compliant. They don’t think it’s right to start a new city and take away future options.
Speaker # 2: Moregro
Name: Brad Rasmussen
Address: 145 West Central Avenue
Comments: Mr. Rasmussen said this change doesn’t apply is not good for the current occupants.. He
believes it will create, more housing, and more people in the smaller area and try to use TRAX as a means
of transportation. He doesn’t believe it is working now, nor will it with more high residential density in the
area. The streets are lined with traffic on both sides. The semi trucks serving the industrial users in the area
already struggle with all the cars parked on the street. This zoning change will affect business for them and
everyone else. People are afraid of the changes and they don’t know what will move in next to them.
Businesses zoned now are conforming instead of putting something else that doesn’t fit the area.
Speaker # 3: Citizen
Name: Doug Black
Address: 155 West Central Avenue
Comments: Mr. Black said he has spent the last two weeks talking to all property owners. He talked to
property owners that never got a notice. Consensus is they are all against the zoning change and trying to
do anything to stop it.
Speaker # 4: Citizen
Name: Fred Jones
Address: 195 West 3900 South
Comments: Mr. Jones said he is opposed to the zoning change. They’re against bad changes and
restrictions. Many proposals can help, but this proposal is short of what they need. Nuisance ordinance
poses a challenge, they were between freeway and railroad tracks when they built in the area. Mass transit
zoning has strengthened residential and hurt existing tenants. Developers have kicked out current tenants
from the property and came and built apartments. When manufacturing uses were first built they were in
compliance with regulations. Many collect sales tax, and ask only for the opportunity to be there and not
driven out, All of the existing tenants are concerned about this zoning change. The new city, doesn’t want
to end up in a situation with regulatory takings. They tenants want to run their businesses and create jobs
and be part of the community. These are industrial buildings. and the building materials used are mostly
built out of cinderblock or metal. They would have to come up with different building materials, to put 25%
of the building into glass. This would change the concept to a totally different zone. This would be a
hardship and an excessive expense on the business owners.
Speaker # 5: Citizen
Name: Peter Hoy
Address: 4035 South 500 West and 3960 South 500 West
Comments: Mr. Hoy said he feels like business owners will have their hands tied. Rather than impose this
hardship on existing businesses, there is a natural evolution, as property values increase and it becomes
feasible for existing businesses to look at other options elsewhere. He proposed that the City let it happen
organically rather then being forced.
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Speaker # 6: American Stone
Name: Dan Thomas
Address: 4040 South 300 West
Comments: Mr. Thomas said he built a good business and instead of limiting the zone keep it much broader
and continue for the family.
Speaker # 7: Citizen
Name: Richard Brown
Address: 4015 South 300 West
Comments: Mr. Brown said he opposes the new ordinance and believes it will devalue the property.
Speaker # 8: Citizen
Name: Bruce Nelson
Address: 175 West Central Avenue
Comments: Mr. Nelson said he hasn’t heard any positive comments about the proposed zoning change,
and he is against this happening. He has been a thirty-year business owner in the area. He believes that
the City should allow the ones that are there to continue as is. The county said one thing in the past and then
the county did what they wanted. He believes that the city will do the same. He fears bullying. He and his
neighbors are hard workers, and he fears that if passed the City will come back and make a more unwanted
changes. He opposed to the draft ordinance.
Speaker # 9: Citizen
Name: Alan Combs
Address: 3955 South Howick Street (210 West)
Comments: Mr. Combs said they moved there 20 years ago. He continues to see the problems with parking
because of residential and the traffic created by higher density. He said “This will diminish the value of
our property. What’s written may not hurt now but this is a trend and the start of regulations to drive them
out. He believes that this is not fair. They are good citizens taking care of properties and deserve respect.
Speaker # 10: Citizen
Name: Dan Beasley
Address: 4045 and 4035 South West Temple
Comments: Mr. Beasley said he has invested in the area under county authority to upgrade his property.
They made an attempt to continue business with a long term lease, because they couldn’t make application
they lost out and will continue to lose out on ways they can support themselves. He can’t make a living,
because arbitrary rules are being set. A lot of people are experiencing this and he has a problem with the
mayor not being here today.
PUBLIC PORTION OF MEETING CLOSED
Commissioners had a brief discussion regarding recommendation, nuisance aspects, height, and intent to
improve the area.
Motion: To recommend the adoption of file #30459 to the Millcreek City Council of the M zone draft
ordinance with alternate changes proposed.
Motion by: Commissioner Allen
2nd by: Commissioner Carlson
Vote: Commissioners voted unanimous in favor (of commissioners present)
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Motion: To recommend adoption of file #30459 to the Millcreek City Council changing the zoning map
for M-1 and M-2 to new zoning map.
Motion by: Commissioner Allen
2nd by: Commissioner Carlson
Vote: Commissioners voted unanimous in favor (of commissioners present)
Motion: To recommend approval of file #30459 to the Millcreek City Council repealing the M-1 and M-2
zones.
Motion by: Commissioner Allen
2nd by: Commissioner Booth
Vote: Commissioners voted unanimous in favor (of commissioners present)
30102 – Ben Olsen is seeking approval for a 3 lot subdivision. Parcel Area: .93 Acre. Location: 3036
South 2000 East. Zone: R-1-8. Community: Canyon Rim. Planner: Tom C. Zumbado.
Salt Lake County Planning and Development Services Planner Tom Zumbado provided an analysis of the
staff report.
Commissioner Healey asked what is the curb, gutter, and sidewalk situation in that area. Mr. Zumbado
said there aren’t any, but there is an irrigation ditch. Mr. Hymas said the exception included piping the
ditch. Prior to final approval staff will make sure they receive the ditch masters signature, this is still a
requirement to be enforced. Commissioner Healey asked if this was approved as a plat seven years ago.
Mr. Zumbado advised that is a question for the applicant.
PUBLIC PORTION OF MEETING OPENED
Speaker # 1: Son of applicant
Name: Travis Olsen
Address: 1530 East 3010 South
Comments: Mr. Olsen said the reason they never proceeded on the original application, is it came down to
economic conditions. It was right at the harshest part of the down turn, In terms of the irrigation ditch, they
have worked for over two years with the ditch master and could not get an official sign off and letters from
the water company. They received a letter of exemption so they believed they do not have to work with the
ditch company. What they are asking for is a renewal of the original subdivision and that they will cover
the irrigation ditch.
PUBLIC PORTION OF MEETING CLOSED
Commissioners had a brief discussion with regards to piping the ditch, sidewalks, delay agreements, and
sidewalk policy.
Motion: To approve application #30102 preliminary plat with the outcome of delay agreement.
Motion by: Commissioner LaMar
2nd by: Commissioner Booth
Vote: Commissioner Allen voted nay, all other commissioners voted in favor (of commissioners
present). Motion passed.
Motion: To recommend approval of application #30102 to the Millcreek Mayor with conditions of piping
of the ditch be completed and a delay agreement on the installation of curb, gutter, and sidewalk.
Motion by: Commissioner LaMar
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2nd by: Commissioner Claerhout
Vote: Commissioner Allen voted nay, all other commissioners voted in favor (of commissioners
present). Motion passed.
Commissioner Healey recused himself from file number 30424.
30424 – Brandon Fry is requesting to subdivide his property into 2 lots. Parcel Area: .53 Acre Location:
2125 East Millstream Lane. Zone: R-1-10. Community: East Mill Creek. Planner: Tom C. Zumbado.
Salt Lake County Planning and Development Services Planner Tom Zumbado provided an analysis of the
staff report.
Commissioner LaMar confirmed it is one piece of land with a road going through. Mr. Zumbado stated as
one lot of record. Mr. Hymas said when road dedication is done, creating two different lots and is now
memorializing the subdivision plat and because of road dedication it would be non-conforming. When the
dedication was made there wasn’t a zoning ordinance in place. It will still be able to be built on and title
transfer. There remains RCOZ requirements and will make sure any home built on either property is
compatible. Commissioner Allen asked about the sidewalk and if one is proposed and since they haven’t
requested one they have to come back. Mr. Zumbado said that is correct. Mr. Hymas said not necessarily
on the plat and technical review would identify and we would want to check in to that.
PUBLIC PORTION OF MEETING OPENED
Speaker # 1: Applicant
Name: Brandon Fry
Address: Not provided
Comments: Mr. Fry said they are non-conforming because of technicalities and look forward to
subdividing and building. There isn’t any existing sidewalk, and a number of new structures have been
built, with no curb, or sidewalk and with only half rounded gutter. He is looking for an exception on that.
PUBLIC PORTION OF MEETING CLOSED
Motion: To approve application #30424 with staff recommendations.
Motion by: Commissioner Carlson
2nd by: Commissioner Claerhout
Vote: Commissioners voted unanimous in favor (of commissioners present)
Motion: To recommend approval of application #30424 to the Millcreek City Mayor for an exception to
curb, gutter and sidewalk.
Motion by: Commissioner Carlson
2nd by: Commissioner Claerhout
Vote: Commissioners voted unanimous in favor (of commissioners present)
Commissioner Healey returned to continue chairing the meeting.
30346 – Brian McMullin is seeking preliminary approval from the planning commission for a Development
Agreement application to develop 12 townhomes on 0.85 acres. Location: 3360 South Ararat Street.
Zone: R-1-6. Community Council: Millcreek. Planner: Spencer Hymas
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Salt Lake County Planning and Development Services Planner Spencer Hymas provided an analysis of the
staff report.
Commissioner Allen said he is trying to understand the elevations and how would someone get there, seems
like that is the entry door. Mr. Hymas said they could provide additional pedestrian access.
PUBLIC PORTION OF MEETING OPENED
Speaker # 1: Applicant
Name: Brian McMullin
Address: 111 West Innsbrook Lane
Comments: Mr. McMullin said Mr. Allen is correct on the entrance, as they are opposite the garages. They
plan to do walking paths that make it easy getting to the porches. Mr. Mc Mullin called his architect and
engineer with regards to garages. They can make changes suggested by the planning commission. They
are mostly looking for direction from the commission. These will be for sale, they tried to move further to
the north, curb and gutter, and sidewalk, county wasn’t sure what they need. Garbage has been included
with CC&R's. Likewise the CC&R’s will include ground and exterior maintenance. He would like input
from the commissioners as respects fencing.
Commissioner Allen asked when you say sidewalk they mean on Ararat. Mr. McMullin said it was the
engineers’ concern, if they put in a curb, water will go to the south. Commissioner Booth said the units are
two level, if they had an ADA convenient van, how would you get there with the garage and CC&R’s would
limit size of the cars, sometimes short of the width of the garage. Mr. McMullin said he would try to modify
and cannot modify CC&R’s. They would go to twenty-eight feet in height. Commissioner Booth asked about
signage on Ararat and is there a requirement to show people where you are. Mr. Hymas said this could
resolved by the planning commission with a “ development agreement’ as part of the approval.
Commissioner LaMar asked about access into the garage. Mr. Hymas said the applicant is proposing
twenty-four feet and that’s an adequate width, if they had to add additional space there is enough length
for a car to back out. Commissioner LaMar asked about cars going into the garage. Mr. Hymas said the
furnace and water heater will be in the garage. Mr. Janson said this is an evolving process. Mr. Brems
asked the applicant if he has worked on a development agreement template. Mr. McMullin said he had. Mr.
Janson said it needs to be completed before coming back to the planning commission. Mr. Hymas said he
and the developer can work towards getting the associated details fleshed out. Mr. Janson said he had tried
to build a template for a development agreement., but that it was an evolving process. It was recommended
that the developer respond to the things mentioned to be improved and the planning commission would like
to see them resolved before the applicant came back-a redesign facing Ararat, to have front door, colors
and materials and a sound development agreement Mr. Janson suggested that the developer come in for
the R-M zone, when they come back. Commissioner Healey asked if those two things happen coincidentally.
Commissioner Brems said the development agreement needs to be agreed to and then the zone change can
be approved. Mr. Hymas also advised the developer first go to Millcreek Community Council and
recommended for approval with a limitation to thirty-foot height requirement.
Speaker # 2: Millcreek Community Council
Name: Linda Bagley
Address: 1250 Manor Circle
Comments: Ms. Bagley said they approved it without seeing any paperwork. They had the understanding
it had already come here.
Speaker # 3: Citizen
Name: Ray Courtney
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Address: 3374 South Ararat Street
Comments: Mr. Courtney said the original was for fourteen units and now nine homes at thirty feet high.
They still need to address the size of Ararat Street. If nine townhomes were brought in, there will be eighteen
new cars coming up and down Ararat. He is opposed and would rather not have a picket fence looking into
his yard. They propose playground right behind his house, he proposes a cinderblock wall.
PUBLIC PORTION OF MEETING CLOSED
Commissioners had a brief discussion regarding the neighborhood, garages, circulation issues, fencing,
play area, orientation, and reduction of units, parking, and garbage.
PUBLIC PORTION OF MEETING REOPENED
Mr. McMullin said he can go back to the drawing board. They looked at the project with a front entry and
he has a lot of direction now. If possible, he should come back with a different project. Mr. Janson said he
could come back with iterations and still not be able to complete.
PUBLIC PORTION OF MEETING CLOSED
Motion: To continue, to consider feedback on application #30346 and have the applicant return with a new
design.
Motion by: Commissioner Carlson
2nd by: Commissioner Booth
Vote: Commissioners voted unanimous in favor (of commissioners present)
30328 – Brendon MacKay requests conditional use and preliminary plat approval for the proposed 27 lot
Talo Townhomes PUD Subdivision. Location: 3780/3790 S Highland Drive. Zone: C-2. Community
Council: Millcreek. Planner: Alex Murphy
Salt Lake County Planning and Development Services Planner Alex Murphy provided an analysis of the
staff report.
Commissioner LaMar said it looks like the State of Utah will lose some parking stalls. Mr. Murphy said
survey shows the property line.
PUBLIC PORTION OF MEETING OPENED
Speaker # 1: Applicant
Name: Brendon MacKay
Address: 2485 Haven Lane
Comments: Mr. MacKay said his objective is to improve a property that isn’t serving the community
interest as respects the location and size. The State of Utah does lease some spaces as well as do some
nearby businesses. There is a small store on the property, with a mix of residential and commercial in the
area. The developer believes that multi-family would serve the community and add new young families.
He plans to build high-end townhomes. The developer feels he has proposed significant changes and has
improved the flow. He as dropped several units and split buildings apart into four buildings, added sidewalk,
added green space and parking. He has also made the entry from the sidewalk and added guest parking,
green space on the roof deck on each unit and added three amenities. A traffic study has been performed,
that looks at worst case scenarios. The trash will be resolved with individual trash collection, and may need
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to drop another unit to accommodate a dumpster. Millcreek Community Council approved twenty-four
units; he has to crunch the numbers to see if that will work and if not then he'll have to look at an alternative.
Commissioner LaMar asked if the proposal is for all two bedrooms. Mr. MacKay said 3-4 bedroom units
might be included. They will alternate every other unit. Commissioner Booth asked for the square footage.
Mr. MacKay said 2000 square feet. Commissioner LaMar said he likes the garage but asked where would
the guest parking be. Mr. MacKay said bike locker and racks, and will expand other parking areas.
Speaker # 2: Millcreek Community Council
Name: Linda Bagley
Address: 1250 Manor Circle
Comments: Ms. Bagley said the motion set forth was for twenty-four units. They didn’t see the traffic
report study, they voted four for, three against and one abstained. Too many units, no place to turn around
and no place for garbage. People don’t ride bikes in the winter time.
Speaker # 3: Citizen and Member of the JACL credit union next door.
Name: Dean Hirabayash
Address: 3776 South Highland Drive
Comments: Mr. Hirabayash said there isn’t any neighborhood comment because there was not adequate
public notice. He received a card around the 5th. He isn’t against development. He thought the proposed
development has possibilities. One of his biggest concerns is the safety and security for his business and
his clients. At the point of development Highland Drive angles, when you come out of his exit, abutting
south of his property. It is difficult to get out of the parking lot, especially when trying to turn left. The
traffic study didn’t take into consideration commercial development across the street. He also believes the
development should require fencing and a stronger setback, as only requiring fifteen feet makes it difficult
for visibility across the street. Looking at the plans, the development is quite dense, maybe there should be
fewer units and allow for more parking and provide for adequate garbage disposal. Lighting is a concern.
They have an ATM next to the property and are required to have certain brightness. Landscaping is
important. He isn’t against the project but would like to work will the developer to work out some things.
PUBLIC PORTION OF MEETING CLOSED
Commissioners and staff had a brief discussion regarding spill over, parking, traffic, lighting, safety and
clear view issue, landscaping, density. Mr. Murphy said setbacks are fifteen feet front and rear, fifteen to
twenty on the side.
Motion: To continue application #30328 subject to 19.84.060(c) to no date specific.
Motion by: Commissioner LaMar
2nd by: Commissioner Claerhout
Vote: Commissioners voted unanimous in favor (of commissioners present)
30372 – Robert Poirier requests a subdivision amendment proposal, preliminary plat approval for the
proposed 3 lot V Clark Amended Subdivision, and a recommendation on the vacation of the cul-de-sac at
the end of Sagehill Drive. This request includes a request to amend an existing subdivision plat (V Clark
Minor Subdivision). Location: 945 East Sagehill Drive. Zone: R-1-8. Community: Millcreek. Planner:
Alex Murphy
Salt Lake County Planning and Development Services Planner Alex Murphy provided an analysis of the
staff report.
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Commissioner LaMar asked about the area to the north. Mr. Murphy said that is a commons area.
PUBLIC PORTION OF MEETING OPENED
Speaker # 1: Property Owner
Name: Mike Hoffman
Address: 945 East Sagehill Drive
Comments: Mr. Hoffman said the easement for the roadway is for public access, garbage and mail are on
a dead end road and not sure how they would get out. They have allowed the snow easement to the north
end. When you turn into the subdivision to the right are the garbage and mailboxes.
Speaker # 2: Citizen
Name: Janice Worthlin
Address: 4255 South 900 East
Comments: Ms. Worthlin said she abuts this property. She has been there for 24 years and there have been
15 people come in and propose developing this piece of property. She owned it, and she has a plat plan and
there aren’t three building lots. The current applicant or his hired professionals have gone through people’s
yards without permission while surveying. Her problem is the density, additional construction and she
doesn’t want her home devalued. She has irrigation water that runs through that property. She is also
concerned about Garden Drive where you can barely drive two cars on that road and access will be limited,
particularly in an emergency. Vehicles have to back down Sagehill now. The garbage and snow removal
will be a real issue. There is no where to push the snow. These are her concerns.
Speaker # 3: Citizen
Name: Carol Stallings
Address: 4337 South Sage Circle
Comments: Ms. Stallings said the snow removal needs enforcement. Vehicles up Sagehill drive have to
back down. The road is narrow. Emergency vehicles are a real issue at the turnaround. Same problem, but
was resolved when Mt. Vista went in. Follow with all the documentation at the end of Sagehill, may be a
sewer line or water. Other developer thought she could hook in to, but it’s a dead end.
Mr. Murphy said he isn’t aware of requirement for water out to 900 East. Mr. Murphy said the sewer has
not been resolved.
PUBLIC PORTION OF MEETING CLOSED
Commissioners and staff had a brief discussion regarding cul-de-sac turn around and setbacks.
Motion: To deny recommendation of application #30372 to the City Council of the proposed vacation,
subject to the provision of public access to the turn-around.
Motion by: Commissioner Allen
2nd by: Commissioner Claerhout
Vote: Commissioners voted unanimous in favor (of commissioners present)
Motion: To deny application #30372 subdivision amendment.
Motion by: Commissioner Allen
2nd by: Commissioner Claerhout
Vote: Commissioners voted unanimous in favor (of commissioners present)
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BUSINESS MEETING
Meeting began at – 9:10 p.m.
1) Approval of Minutes from the June 21, 2017 meeting.
Motion: To approve minutes from the June 21, 2017 meeting as presented.
Motion by: Commissioner Allen
2nd by: Commissioner Healey
Vote: Commissioners voted unanimous in favor (of commissioners present)
2) Approval of Minutes from the August 8, 2017 meeting.
Motion: To approve minutes from the August 8, 2017 meeting as presented.
Motion by: Commissioner Allen
2nd by: Commissioner Healey
Vote: Commissioners LaMar and Carlson abstained, all other commissioners voted in favor
(of commissioners present). Motion passed.
3) 30520 – Fence Ordinance issues – John Janson
4) Ordinance Issues from today’s meeting
5) Other Business Items (as needed)
MEETING ADJOURNED
Time Adjourned – 9:13 p.m.
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