Planning Commission
Regular MeetingMillcreek, UT · June 17, 2020
Minutes
Minutes of the
Millcreek Planning Commission
June 17, 2020
5:00 p.m.
Regular Meeting
The Planning Cornrnission of Millcreek, Utah, met in a regular public meeting on Wednesday,
June 17, 2020 at City Hall, located at 3330 S. 1300 E., Millcreek, UT 84106. The meeting was
conducted electronically per Millcreek State of Local Emergency Directive No. 2 of 2020 and
live streamed via the City's website with an option for online public comment.
PRESENT:
Commissioners City Staff
Shawn LaMar, Chair John Brems, City Attorney
Russ Booth, Vice Chair (electronic) Elyse Sullivan, City Recorder
David Allen (electronic) Francis Lilly, Plaru'iing and Zoning Director
Scott Claerhout (electronic) Robert May, Planner
Fred Healey (absent) Erin O'Kelley, Planner
Mark Mumford (electronic) Samah Safiullah, Planner
Victoria Reid (electronic) Jared Bowling, IT/Facilities Manager
Skye Sieber Jordan Hatch, Information Center Manager
Tom Stephens
Attendees: Mayor Jeff Silvestrini, Council Member Dwight Marchant, Adam Von Maack,
Wayne Johnson, Brad Wagstaff (electronic), McKay Quinn (electronic), Brandon Wagstaff
(electronic), Kyle Killan (electronic), Whitney Sansom (electronic), Chad Rawlins (electronic), Ryan S.
(electronic), Dan Maack (electronic), David Baird (electronic), and Rachel Lambert (electronic).
REGULAR MEETING - 5:00 p.m.
TIME COMMENCED: 5:02 p.m.
Chair LaMar called the meeting to order, explained the instructions for the electronic meeting,
and read a description explaining the duties of the Planning Commission. He said there were two
Planning Commissioner vacancies and the deadline for applying was June 19, 2020. He said
Commissioner Mumford and Claerhout's terms would end at the end of June.
1. Public Hearings
1.1 Consideration of ZM-20-005, Rezone from R-1-6 to R-1-5 Subject to a Development
Agreement for Property Location: 2910 S. 800 E. Applicant: Sancus Development LLC
Planner: Robert May
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Robert May said the subject property was two parcels and the rezone would accommodate a
6-lot subdivision with an existing home on one of the Iots. The property and surrounding area
were designated as Neighborhood 1 in the General Plan which allows for a range of density
between 1-6 dwelling units per acre. Staff found that maintaining the R-1-5 zone met the
single-family neighborhood feel and that the addition of 5 more units would not negatively
impact the immediate area. He showed the Commission pictures of the property and a map of
the surrounding non-confonning lots. Nineteen of the 29 surrounding parcels in the R-1-6
zone were recognized as nonconforming either due to the lack of area, width, or both. The
average area was 7,654 square feet and the average width was 53 feet. He said a lot of the
same requirements for the new zone still applied from the cui'rent zone except the lot width,
which could be 25 feet at a minimum, and the existing home would be conforming on the
new lot. He showed the Commission a concept site plan.
May said the Millcreek Community Council, at their meeting on June 2, recornrnended
approval of the proposed rezone that included a development agreement and that the final
plans meet the minimum requirements and setbacks of the R-1-5 zone and Residential
Compatibility Overlay Zone (RCOZ). The applicant held an informal neighborhood virtual
meeting on May 26 and a surnrnary of that meeting could be found in the staff report. He said
staff had one resident inquire about fencing along the private road because they were
concerned about traffic noise and lights affecting their property. Staff found that the R-1-5
zone with the RCOZ restrictions was compatible with the neighborhood, that the R-1-5 zone
would not negatively impact the immediate area, that the rezone with a development
agreement would secure a positive project, and that the development agreement should
include requirements not already enforced by code such as specific building materials, a
specific architectural design that required pitched roofs, and fencing requirements similar to
those found in Millcreek Code Chapter 19.78. May referenced code section 19.76.080, Lots
and Buildings on Private Rights-Of-Way, and that the applicant would have to meet those
outdated requirements except that the Planning Director could approve the development
agreement in lieu of them which is what would take place.
Chair LaMar asked about the open space. May said the open space requirement was 35% for
the project.
Adam Von Maack said he was representing the applicant, Sancus Development, as their
attorney. He said the developer preferred traditional style homes which suited the
neighborhood.
Wayne Johnson, Millcreek Cornrnunity Council, the Council agreed the project was a good
fit for the neighborhood. The Council had expressed concern about proper setbacks on the
north side of the property.
ChairLaMar opened the public hearing.
Francis Lilly read a comment submitted online from Aurora Green, 751 E. Garden Avenue.
a'Hello, My name is Aurora Green, Millcreek resident residing within 600ft of the 755 E
2910 Sproperty. My husband and I are opposed to theproposed rezoning. Wefeel that
setting this kind of precedent could lead tofuture developmemsthat abuse anyflexibility we
might allow now. The currentzoning of 6.0 units per acre is sufficient.
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Thank you, Aurora Green"
ChairLaMar closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Stephens said the proposal was good and fit the neighborhood. He suggested
the planning staff decide the roof pitch instead of something other than flat. May said it
would be a pitched roof. Commissioner Stephens asked about construction material
requirements. Cornrnissioner Allen recommended deferring that to staff. May said he could
work with the developer on neighborhood compatible materials and put that in the
development agreement. Chair LaMar asked about the 6-foot fence along only the north
property line. May said it came as a request from the residents on Parker Street expressing
concern about privacy and light. Commissioner Allen asked about the subdivision density.
May said the first condition of the proposed development agreement was to limit the project
to 6 single family detached units. Commissioner Claerhout clarified that the zone change was
to get 2 more lots in addition to the existing home lot.
Commissioner Booth moved that the Planning Commission give a positive recommendation
to the City Council that the rezone proposal ZM-20-005 with a development agreement and
conditions found in the staff report be approved. Commissioner Sieber seconded.
Commissioner Stephens asked about amending the motion to include staff working with the
applicant on exterior construction materials. Commissioner Booth accepted the amendment.
Commissioner Sieber seconded the amended motion. Chair LaMar called for the vote. All
Commissioners voted yes. The motion passed unanimously.
1.2 Consideration of ZM-20-006, Rezone from R-1-21 and R-1-10 to R-1-21 Location:
3646 E. Viewcrest Circle Applicants: Laurence and Amy Killen Planner: Erin O'Kelley
Erin O'Kelley said the property was originally platted as two separate residential lots in the
Mt. Olympus Hills subdivision. The property located at 3646 Viewcrest was currently zoned
R-I-10 and the vacant area behind the house was zoned R-1-21. The rezone would be to
make the whole property R-1-21. Previously, the applicant owned the property on Viewcrest
Circle and the property to the south of it on a different plat. The applicant would like to
construct a guest house on the rear of the property. Millcreek code permits guest houses on
lots that are zoned R-1-21. By definition, a guesthouse must be located on the same lot of the
main dwelling, so a lot consolidation was required. However, Millcreek code requires that
the consolidation of two previously subdivided lots must be re-platted to reflect the property
boundary changes. The proposed plat and consolidation would result in a split zone lot where
one zone allows guesthouses and one zone does not. Therefore, the City required the
applicant to rezone the property in addition to a subdivision application. O'Kelley
highlighted the proposed changes of the subdivision and the guest house which would be 561
square feet and one story. The property was designated as Neighborhood I in the General
Plan, primarily single-family detached homes with 1-2 stories. The applicant held a
neighborhood meeting on May 29 and residents there expressed concern about obstruction of
views, privacy, construction, utility maintenance, and the use of the guest house as a short-
term rental. The Mt. Olympus Community Council, at their meeting on June 2, recommended
the rezone be adopted with the recommended zoning condition. Staff did not recommend a
development agreement due to the nature of the application. O'Kelley said staff
recommended approval of the rezone with the following zone conditions; short term rentals
are prohibited, and animals be limited to household pets. She said that the zone condition was
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already enforced on the property and staff was recoinmending that it not be removed as a
result of this rezone.
Commissioner Stephens asked about long term rentals of guest houses. O'Kelley said it was
not allowed. Cornrnissioner Reid asked about the recommendation for no development
agreement. O'Kelley said it was a similar to a city-imposed rezone to clean up and regulate
the lot in a better manner on a split zoning lot. The scope of the application did not need to be
regulated.
The applicant did not provide comment.
Francis Lilly said the Mt. Olympus Community Council supported the rezone.
ChairLaMar opened the public hearing.
Erin O'Kelley read public comments received online into the record.
Jeru'iiferWong, 4531 Park Hill Drive, "Ifully support the rezoning of 3646 E. Viewcrest
Circle into a single R-121 lot. This rezoning removesthepossibility of the lots being sold
separately and reduces the likelihood of increased traffic in thefuture."
Gregory O'Neil, 4531 S. Park Hill Drive,'!rpport the consolidation of both lots located at
3646 Viewcrest Cirde and zoning them as R-1-21. I believe this action will be in the best
interest of the neighborhood long-term."
DanaHolmes,3716ViewcrestCircle, "Hello,Iwouldliketoexpressmysupportforthe
guesthousebeingproposedandrezonirtgof3646E. ViewcrestCircleintoasingleR-1-21
lot. I live on this street and am comfortable with the word of the Killens that the structure
would riot be usedfor short term rentals. As a resident 072 this street, I also know that the
neighbors would keep an eye out and let city officials know if short term remals or any non
confirming activities occur. However, I do not think this will be necessary.I thirxk it is
admirable that they are maki'tzgspacefor family to visit, and I truly do notsee a downside to
allowing them to do this. Thargk you, Dana Holmes"
BelvaRobbins,4500BrockbankDrive, "IwanttoprotesttherezoningforProjectNumber
ZM-20-006 at the location of 3646 newcrest Cirde, Millcreek, Utah, with application for
Amy and Kyle Killian %Andrea Palmer. This property is very large due to the extreme slope
of the hill. Combining with arxotherextreme sloped piece of property to built a guest house is
a danger to the erosion and copy cat desire of others in the rxeighborhood.I protest the
rezone of R-1-21 to R-1-21. Sincerely, Belva Robbins"
Chair LaMar closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Stephens, as respects to ZM-20-006 rezone from R-1-21 and R-1-10 to R-1-
21, moved that the Planning Commission make a positive recommendation to the rezone
subject to the conditions found in the staff report. Commissioner Reid seconded. Chair
LaMar called for the vote. Commissioner Allen was not present for the vote. All other
Commissioners voted yes. The motion passed unanimously.
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1.3 Consideration of SD-20-010, Preliminary Plat Approval for a 5-lot Subdivision
Location: 3898 E. Thousand Oaks Circle Applicant: Brad Wagstaff Planner: Robert
May
Robert May said there was a prior rezone of the property with a recorded development
agreement which ensured that there would be no future connection between Covecrest Drive
and Thousand Oaks Circle. He said the developer had made minor modifications to the
subdivision from what they proposed with the rezone. He showed the Commission the new
proposed plat.
Commissioner Stephens said the applicant had asked for a reduced setback when seeking the
rezone. May said the community council and Planning Commission did not feel it was
appropriate at that time, so it was not forwarded to the Council. He said the reduction was not
part of the subdivision application.
Applicant Brad Wagstaff thanked the Commission and staff. He said the property had been
reduced from 6 to 5 lots. He said he would like the reduced setback still but understood that it
should be part of the building permit application. May said staff was not opposed to the
reduction and asked for specifics. Wagstaff said the reduction was specific to lots 1 and 5
because of the slope on the properties. Chair LaMar said the reduced setback was not part of
the subdivision application and recommended a continuance to add it in. May said the
request did not have to be through the subdivision and felt it could be approved through
technical review. Commissioner Stephens said the mechanism by which a setback would be
enacted would be through a variance with the Land Use Hearing Officer. Lilly said it would
be an RCOZ exception, not a variance.
David Baird, Mt. Olympus Community Council, said the Council endorsed the application.
He said there was a precedent from previous homes in the area that a reduced 18-foot setback
would be appropriate to eliminate a looming aspect on the lots below it. He wanted to see the
home elevations before making that recommendation but there was general support for the
setback modifications.
Chair LaMar opened the public hearing.
Francis Lilly read a comment received online from Eric Tuday, 4493 S. Parkview Drive,
"Hi All,
To introduce myself and myfamily, my name is Eric Tuday. I am a cardiologist and a researcher at
the University of Utah/SLC VeteransAffairs Hospital. I live in lot 1506 on your mailed letter,
adjacent to lot 5 in the proposal. My wife Laura Moreno, a family practice physician with the
University of Utah. We have a young daughter with a son on the way. We enjoy stability, quietness,
and relative solitude in our current home when we are off hours.
This current proposal has us worried for many reasons:
1) Construction of a property behind our house, that was not othemise allowed, will decrease our
home value.
2) Construction on top of a previous improvement (tennis court) may not meet code, we thus askfor a
structural review prior to this sale/re-zoning/consolidation of plats.
3) We ask thatMillcreek City delineate the borders of possible of physical construction that may
occur on these lots.
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4) MOSTIMPORTAN'. We would ask that the city council, if they agree to this action of selling off
this land with the intent to build a home,place a limitation on the vegetation removed. Speciftcally,
ban the removal, pruning, or "TOPPING" of trees 141ithirx 25feet of the adjoining property lines. (The
lot behind us has several mature pines 'holding thefort" right on the property border) Thesetrees
provide a sound structure to downstream structures and prevent catastrophic mudslides as were seen
during the California wildfires not too long ago.
This is a distilled list of my concerns. I will attend your virtual meeting. I hope that you (collectively)
will address my concerns in your meeting.
Sincerely, Eric Tuday, MD, PhD "
Chair LaMar closed the public hearing.
Chair LaMar and Commissioner Claerhout expressed favor for the application.
Commissioner Stephens, as respects to application SD-20-010, moved to grant preliminary
subdivision approval as stated in the staff report subject to the conditions and all other
items found in the staff report. Commissioner Booth seconded. Chair LaMar called for the
vote. All Commissioners voted yes. The motion passed unanimously.
1.4 Consideration of SD-20-012, Final Plat Approval for a Subdivision Amendment to
Alter an Existing Public Utility Easement Location: 3925 S. Mount Olympus Way
Applicant: Whitney Sanson Planner: Erin O=Kelley
Erin O'Kelley addressed two corrections from the staff report; page 8 said "flag Iot" and it
should say "subdivision amendment," and the staff report said the application was for a
preliminary plat approval and it should be a final plat approval. The subdivision was for a
single-family lot in the R-1-10 zone. In 2019, the property received a building permit for a
new single-family dwelling and also received a sidewalk exception. The applicant realized
there was a public utility easement that needed to be moved to accommodate the new home
and would be relocated along the north property line. O'Kelley said there were no in ground
utilities in the easement, but the applicant would be burying power lines in the new utility
easement. The property owners to the north expressed concern about the removal of the
grove of trees between the properties. Staff recommended additional conditions to address
these concerns and that the adjacent property owners be consulted about landscaping after the
utility lines were buried. She said staff added to the conditions that the applicant would be
required to conduct a tree preservation plan that inventories all significant trees and their
replacement, caliper for caliper, prior to recording of the final plat in addition to meeting all
the requirements found in Chapter 19.77 Water Efficient Landscape Design and
Development Standards of the Millcreek Code, the applicant would discuss all proposed
changes to landscaping with adjacent property owner, and the applicant would re-landscape
any disturbed land with native vegetation.
Chair LaMar asked about a significant tree. O'Kelley said the condition did not define it but
it was typically based on caliper.
Applicant - Whitney Sanson said the property owner wanted to try to preserve the trees when
burying the powerlines. She said there was no power in the overhead lines, but there were
communication lines from CenturyLink and Comcast that would be buried. The applicant
wished to increase the public utility easement to 10 feet to lessen the disturbance to the scrub
oak. O'Kelley said the application showed a 7.5-foot easement. Coinmissioner Reid asked
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about placement of the easement with the scrub oak. Sanson said they would keep the
remaining trees. Commissioner Mumford asked about utility lines being buried. Sanson said
the existing Comcast and CenturyLink communication lines would be buried. Commissioner
Claerhout asked if the applicant was then proposing 10 feet for the easement width. Sanson
said after meeting with the utility companies, which was after the application was submitted
to the City, they realized they would be able to preserve more of the natural vegetation with
the larger easement.
Chair LaMar opened the public hearing.
Francis Lilly read into the record a comment submitted online from Grant Cooper, 3905 S.
Mount Olympus Way, '%ook forward to working with the new property owers."
Chair LaMar closed the public hearing.
John Brems said since the easement was being enlarged and the applicant requested it, he felt
that it was fine for the Planning Commission to approve it without re-noticing the
application. Lilly said the easement could be addressed in technical review. Cornrnissioner
Mumford asked if both the lines would be buried at the same time. Sanson said they would
install the conduit and the utilities would share it. Commissioner Sieber requested that the
Commission define "significant" for the trees. O'Kelley said the significance could be
defined as the existing species. Sanson did not object.
Commissioner LaMar, regarding file SD-20-012, moved to approve the final plat
subdivision to alter the existing public utility easement per the items in the staff report and
adding the replacement of any of the scrub oak with the same species or any similar species
disturbed for the easement and to increase the width of the easement from 7.5 to 10 feet.
Commissioner Claerhout seconded. Chair LaMar called for the vote. All Commissioners
voted yes. The motion passed unanimously.
The Commission took a break from 6:32-6:45 p.m.
1.5 Consideration of SD-20-013, Final Plat Approval for a Subdivision Amendment to
an Existing Condominium Plat Location: 3098 S. Highland Drive Applicant: PEG
Development Planner: Erin O'Kelley
Erin O'Kelley said the request was for preliminary plat approval to amend the Highland Park
Plaza Condominiums. The property had a 4-story commercial building that had recently been
renovated to allow for residential units to be rented. The remaining property was originally
used for parking for the commercial space. A large parking structure existed to the south of
the building but had since been torn down and was currently used as landscaping and
drainage. The commercial building had been renovated already and the condominium plat
was 90% owned by PEG Development. O'Kelley showed the Commission the existing and
proposed plats. She said PEG needed to first break off a portion of the existing condo plat, lot
2, and amend the other existing condo plat to the north. PEG would be creating an additional
lot through the first condominium amendment. The applicant requested the plat be in two
phases. The subdivision application was connected to a previously approved conditional use
pennit, CU-20-003, for a mixed-use project in the City Center. Staff was aware of the
proposed plat changes at that time and included in the conditions of approval a condition that
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required the applicant to resolve all property line issues and consolidate the lots to meet
applicable zoning and subdivision codes. The process was a condition that must be
completed before the applicant received final approval for CU-20-003.
Chair LaMar asked why the subdivision process was not done all at once. O'Kelley said she
would let the applicant respond to that. She said staff reviewed the project and it was in
compliance with the City Center Overlay Zone (CCOZ) and C-3 Zone requirements and the
conditional use permit would not be altered. Chair LaMar asked about the changing of unit
count. O'Kelley said the same parking standards would be held and the unit count would not
change. Lilly said the approved 15% parking reduction was based on the approved table and
any change would require administrative or Planning Commission review. O'Kelley said the
subdivision was part of the technical conditions of the conditional use permit.
Applicant McKay Ouinn, PEG Development, said PEG owned the bakery and seamstress
shop parcels to the east. They were waiting on the second phase because they needed a way
to purchase the excess parcel in the first phase. He said nothing was changing with the units
in Phase 1, and Phase 1 and 2 would share parking. Corni'nissioner Sieber asked about
preliminary/final approval. O'Kelley said it was preliminary approval because a new lot was
being created.
Chair LaMar opened the public hearing.
There were no comments.
Chair LaMar closed the public hearing.
Chair LaMar clarified that the conditions of the conditional use permit would still be met.
Commissioner Mumford moved to approve the proposed preliminary plat in SD-20-013
with the recommended staff conditions. Commissioner Claerhout seconded. Commissioner
Stephens brought up the eight conditions in the staff report. Commissioner Mumford re-moved
to approve the proposed preliminary subdivision in SD-20-013 to include all staff
conditions, 1-8. Commissioner Claerhout seconded.
The conditions were:
* The design of the site and buildings shall comply with all applicable development standards of
the Milleeek Zoning Code and any site development standards required by the Millcreek
EngineerandBuildirxg Official, and U4'iedFireAuthorhy.
* Priortoreceivingfinalplatapproval,theapplicantshallcertifythatexistingutilityservices
have the capachy to accommodate additional demand iriduced by the developmetxt, or that the
services will be upgraded to meet the additiotxal demand,
* Accessory structures will reqyiire separate building permits and staff review for zoning/land rise
compliance.
* AnymodificationstotheseapprovedplansinustbeapprovedbythePlanningDepartmergt,in
writing, prior to the chariges being implemented itx the field.
* The proposed subdivisiori plat mxist complete a final technical review that includes an
engineering review to ensure that the final plat cotnplies with all comlitions of approval of the
preliminary plat and to ensure t1iat the jmal plat complies with the design standards, codes,
and ordinances and with miniwun engineering/surveying reqxiirements, including any
bonding for possible future improvements.
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* All applicable zoning, building, health, fire, and safeffl requireinents must be met prior to
receiving final approval of a building permit,
* The applicant will install all required improveinents, or bond for a// required improvements,
prior to recording tlie final plat.
* All items of the staff report.
Chair LaMar called for the vote. All Commissioners voted yes. The motion passed
unanimously.
1.6 Continuing Eusimss - Consideration of ZT-20-004, Recommendation to the City
Council Regarding Adoption of a Fencing Ordinance and Amending Clear View
Requirements Staff: Blaine Gehring
Francis Lilly said he wanted to focus on the items brought up in the field trip work meeting
held the prior week. He said in the proposed draft ordinance, he removed a provision to
nonconforming fences that caused a safety concern. There was a concept that a
nonconforming fence was grandfathered unless it caused a safety concern. He said there were
concerns raised about the interpretation of it and clear view concepts that were already
addressed in another ordinance. He removed the living fence definition and vegetation
counting as a fence. He adjusted the driveway clear view requirement to be 20 feet from the
center point of driveway instead of 10 feet from the edge of driveway. He said each driveway
had different approaches and a wider driveway suggested more maneuverability so there
would be less of a need for clear view. He said specific visual obstructions were removed
from the ordinance and the clear view chapter was referenced. He added specific conditional
use language for residential retaining walls on properties with greater than a 30% slope. He
read from proposed code 19.95.040 D(4)(e).
Lilly recommended that front and corner side yard fences requirement be different on local
roads versus minor and major collector roads. Lilly said if you are on a local road, you are
limited to 3 foot solid or 4 foot open-style fence. If you are on a collector B, minor collector,
major collector, minor arterial, or other principal arterial road as established by the roadway
classification map in the Transportation Master Plan, you can have a 6 foot open-style or
opaque fence. Lilly said open style fencing was allowed up to 6 feet in height for multi-
family, commercial, industrial, and institutional development. He expressed a preference for
aesthetic reasons that no fencing be taller than 4 feet in the front yard in those zones. Lilly
said he added a section on fencing within a public right-of-way and read from proposed code
section 19.95.110. Chair LaMar suggested that the property owner should be allowed to
remove the fence themselves in 1. of that section. Lilly said he would add language for that.
Lilly said Commissioner Stephens brought up wildlife protections, so he added "or trap" to
section 1 9.95.090, and that electrified fencing would be prohibited unless used for a legally
established agricultural use in an A-1 or A-2 Zone in section 19.95.050(D). Lilly reviewed
the height of retaining walls as being 4 feet measured from bottom of foundation, footing, or
wall system to the top of the wall from a building code standpoint. He said from a planning
standpoint, staff was concerned about a wall from finished grade to the sky. He proposed
adding the following language, "For the purpose deternnining if a building permit is required
for a retaining wall, height is measured from the bottom of the foundation, footing, or wall
system, to the top of the wall. For the purpose of determining the maximum height of a
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retaining wall, height shall be measured in accordance with 19.95.040 (D)." Chair LaMar
suggested adding "from finished grade in accordance with 19.95."
Lilly said he asked Unified Police Department about a maximum height for front yard fences
and they did not seem to care. Lilly said there was a public benefit to see what was between
the street and the door and aesthetically a shorter fence looked better in the front yard in most
neighborhoods. The exception would be on a busy road.
Chair LaMar opened the public hearing.
There were no comments.
Chair LaMar closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Reid asked about hedges being allowed anywhere except in clear view. Lilly
confirmed. Commissioner Reid said the language about the tree canopy in the clear view was
unclear. Lilly said the City Council amended code so that trees hanging over the street should
be trimmed to 14.5 feet above the pavement. Commissioner Reid suggested that not be
included in the clear view section. Commissioner Allen said an exception could be made for
a reasonable number of trees and he pointed out that he did not like that provision. Lilly said
that language existed in current code. Commissioner Alien did not want staff to be put in the
position of determining a reasonable number of trees. Chair LaMar said it was a safety issue
and intentionally vague. Cornrnissioner Allen said there were two different clear view
standards, one in the clear view ordinance and one in the fencing ordinance. Lilly said he
removed the clear view language in the proposed fence ordinance. Commissioner Allen
brought up visual obstructions. Lilly said he would fix the conformity issue between the
fence and vegetation sections.
Commissioner Allen said he had issues in code section 14.12.040. Lilly said the Planning
Commission should stick with recommendations to Title 19. Clear view was mentioned in
numerous places in the code and the idea was to make reference to the one location; clear
view with driveways as it dealt with a fence would be in the fence ordinance and clear view
without reference to a fence would be in the clear view ordinance. Cornrnissioner Mumford
said safety issues were his top priority with clear view. He asked about defining a "future
sidewalk" in the right-of-way section. Lilly said he would look to see where a sidewalk was
drawn on surrounding properties and in the road classification cross section standards.
Commissioner Claerhout felt public safety was the top priority too. Commissioner Sieber
liked keeping clear view and clear view for driveway separate from fencing. She asked about
fences greater than 6 feet in height requiring a building permit. Lilly said the building code
required a building permit for fences 7 feet tall. She asked about a 6.5-foot fence since 6-7
feet was not spelled out. Lilly said he did not know but said the fence would have to meet
zoning code and he would change the language to any fence over 6 feet in height should get a
building permit.
Commissioner Sieber asked about "sound walls" being defined but reference in the code was
to "noise walls." Lilly said he would fix that error. Commissioner Stephens said he was in
favor of the clear view standards in the proposed ordinance. Commissioner Reid said clear
view rules should be stricter for a corner with a lot of traffic instead of with a driveway.
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Commissioner Booth said he looked forward to seeing the final draft ordinance. Chair LaMar
suggested allowing up to 6-foot-tall fence in the front yard if 50% was open, and 3 foot solid
or 4 feet open was too complex. He suggested just doing 4 feet and allowing fences to come
to the sidewalk or the street. Commissioner Allen said an open fence up to 75% could be
allowed for a front yard fence up to 6 feet in height. Lilly highlighted the open style fencing
definition which was 50% or more shall be open. Chair LaMar concurred with Commissioner
Allen's comments. Commissioner Reid did not agree to chain-link in the front yard up to 6
feet in height. Lilly recommended the term "metal picket" be allowed and not allow chain-
link in height greater than 4 feet in the front yard. He said a 4-foot solid fence would be
allowed.
Commissioner Stephens, as respects to ZT-20-004, moved to make a positive
recommendation to the City Council for the described and discussed amendments to the
following code sections: 19.76.160 Intersecting Streets and Clear Visibility, 19.82.110
Visibility at Intersections, 19.44.050 Development Requirements, and 19.76.165 Visibility at
Residential Driveways. Commissioner Claerhout seconded. Commissioner Allen said adding
a new provision on residential driveways was not a good idea because it would make some
houses legally non-conforming. Lilly said he would be removing the first two paragraphs from
the clear view section in 19.76.165. Commissioner Stephens amended the motion to add that
under 19.76.165 Visibility at Residential Driveways the language under A(1) be deleted.
Commissioner Claerhout seconded the amendment. Commissioner Allen said fence clear
view was moving back into the clear view ordinance. Chair LaMar called for the vote.
Commissioners Mumford, Booth, Claerhout, Sieber, and Stephens voted yes.
Commissioners Allen, Reid, and LaMar voted no. The motion passed.
Lilly reviewed the changes the Commission discussed to the proposed fencing ordinance. He
would remove the first paragraph under Driveway or Lane Visual Obstructions in 19.95.040 and
moving it to the clear view ordinance. In the same section, Fence Height Measurement, front and
corner side yards would allow fences up to 6 feet in height as long as they were 50% open metal
picket, otherwise 4 feet solid or chain-link. In Prohibited Materials, 19.95.050, no chain-link
would be allowed in fences greater than 4 feet in height. Fences over 6 feet in height would
require a peri'nit. He mentioned the trapping wildlife and electric fencing changes. There would
also be a consistent term for sound walls instead of noise walls.
Commissioner Alien moved to recommend approval to the City Council of the fence
ordinance 19.95 subject to the changes that Francis Lilly outlined and was discussed.
Commissioner Mumford seconded. Chair LaMar called for the vote. All Commissioners
voted yes. The motion passed unanimously.
2. Business Meeting
2.1 Approval of May 20, 2020 Meeting Minutes
Commissioner Claerhout moved to approve the minutes from last month's meeting.
Commissioner Booth seconded. Chair LaMar called for the vote. All Commissioners voted
yes. Commissioner Sieber abstained. The motion passed.
2.2 Updates from the Planning and Zoning Director
Mfflcreek Planning Commission Meeting Minutes 17 June 2020 Page 12 of 12
Francis Lilly thanked the Commission for passing the fencing ordinance. Commissioner
Stephens said on item 1.1, what was presented was well thought out by planning staff. He
commended plaru'iing staff on the footwork on a project that was a good project. Lilly said
the planning staff relied on the General Plan. Commissioner Mumford asked if the
documents presented in the Planning Commission meetings were legal documents. Lilly said
the documents become part of the public record and the minutes reflected any changes made
to those documents.
3. Calendar of Upcoming Meetings
* City Council Mtg., 6/22/20, 5:00 p.m. at City Hall
* Canyon Rim Citizens Association Mtg., 7/1/20, 7:00 p.m. TBD
* Mt. Olympus Community Council Mtg., 7/7/20, 6:00 p.m. TBD
* Millcreek Community Council Mtg., 7/7/20, 6:30 p.m. TBD
@ City Council Mtg., 7/13/20, 5:00 p.m. at City Hall
* Planning Commission Mtg., 7/15/20, 5:00 p.m. at City Hall
ADJOURNED: Commissioner Sieber moved to adjourn the meeting at 8:58 p.m.
Commissioner Stephens seconded. Chair LaMar called for the vote. All Commissioners
voted yes. The motion passed unanimously, ,1 /
Attest: Else 'ity Recorder
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