Appeals Hearing Board Meeting
Regular MeetingMonterey, CA · February 24, 2023
Minutes
APPEALS HEARING BOARD MEETING MINUTES
CITY OF MONTEREY (Hybrid meeting)
Friday, February 24, 2023
2:00 PM
MONTEREY, CALIFORNIA
Board members
Present: Hawkins (in chambers), Glenzer (via Zoom), Millich (via Zoom)
Absent: None.
Board Staff Assistant City Attorney Karin Salameh, Deputy City Attorney Christian
Present: Wellisch and Clerk of the Board Alicia Salas
Other Staff Harbormaster, Brian Nelson
Present:
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Hawkins call the meeting order at 2:15 pm.
CONSENT AGENDA
1. Minutes of January 5, 2023, (Not a project under CEQA per Article 20 Section 15378 and
under General Rule Article 15061.)
Board member Glenzer made a motion to approve the minutes of January 5, 2023.
Vice Chair Millich seconds the motion.
The motion carried by the following vote, which was conducted by roll call:
AYES: 3 COMMISSIONERS: Hawkins, Millich, Glenzer
NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSTAIN: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
RECUSED: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
2. Minutes of January 26, 2023, (Not a project under CEQA per Article 20 Section 15378 and
under General Rule Article 15061.)
Board member Glenzer made a motion to approve the minutes of January 26, 2023.
Vice Chair Millich seconds the motion.
The motion carried by the following vote, which was conducted by roll call:
AYES: 3 COMMISSIONERS: Hawkins, Millich, Glenzer
NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSTAIN: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
RECUSED: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
PUBLIC COMMENTS
None.
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PUBLIC HEARING
3. Appeal of Harbormaster’s revocation of Scott Johnson’s berth license in the Monterey
Marina pursuant to Monterey City Code Section 17-7 (b) (Not a Project under CEQA
Article 20, Section 15378 and under General Rule Article 5, Section 15061)
Assistant City Attorney Karin Salameh said she is the attorney representing the Appeals
Hearing Board. She said she has implemented an ethical wall and she has not discussed the
matter with staff or any other attorney in her office. Ms. Salameh said the Department is
exclusively represented by Deputy City Attorney, Christian Wellisch. She stated that she and
Mr. Wellisch have not conferred on the matter.
Ms. Salameh asked the Board to disclose any ex-parte contacts they may have had with the
Harbormaster or the appellant, Scott Johnson. The Board Members said they did not have
anything to disclose.
Harbormaster Brian Nelson gave his presentation and took questions from the Board Members.
Board member Glenzer asked Harbormaster Nelson how his Department has engaged with Mr.
Johnson and whether granting an extension is that normal. Harbormaster Nelson said he takes
each case on its own merit; he said there are different situations, different ages of the boats,
availability of parts, etc. Harbormaster Nelson said in this particular case his office has had a
lot of communication Johnson, with Mr. Johnson that was in-person, on the telephone and via
email to try to navigate the situation. Harbormaster Nelson said the issue is that the boat is
inoperable, and his office takes the complaint of raw sewage or hazmat materials leaking into
the Harbor very seriously.
Board member Glenzer asked Harbormaster Nelson if the boat had been leaking sewage into
the Harbor which is a National Marine Sanctuary. Harbormaster Nelson said his Department
has not been able to verify if the boat is leaking because it cannot be moved.
Chair Hawkins said other than the fact that the boat cannot be moved what other evidence is
there to show the boat is inoperable. Harbormaster Nelson said the owner’s letter says it is
inoperable.
Board member Glenzer asked the Harbormaster to identify the four out of five conditions that
Mr. Johnson says he has satisfied in his letter for Appeal. Harbormaster Nelson said he noted
in his presentation that Mr. Johnson had corrected the fact that he had an unauthorized person
living on the boat, he removed the hazardous material from the dock, and he said Mr. Johnson
corrected the inability to communicate with the Harbormasters office, which is required.
Harbormaster Nelson said the complaint about the sewage smell from around Mr. Johnson’s
boat has not been repeated since his liveaboard status was removed.
Board member Glenzer asked Harbormaster Nelson to explain the fifth condition that Mr.
Johnson needs to improve. Harbormaster Nelson said it is the boat’s inoperability which is the
reason for the hearing.
Board member Glenzer asked the Harbormaster if Mr. Johnson was currently living on his boat.
Harbormaster Nelson said no, he is not since his liveaboard license was revoked.
Vice Chair Millich asked what happens to the boat if the Board upholds the City’s position. The
Harbormaster said Mr. Johnson will have to remove the boat from the Monterey Marina. Vice
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Chair Millich asked what happens if he does not remove the boat. Harbormaster Nelson said
because it is a documented vessel, the City could establish a federal lien on it.
Vice Chair Millich asked if Mr. Johnson removes and corrects the issues on his boat, will he be
allowed to come back to the Marina if there is available space or is he barred for a period of
time. Harbormaster Nelson said according to the code, and it is discretionary depending on the
circumstances. He said that decision would be up to the Harbormaster.
Scott Johnson, appellant, gave his presentation. He said that the Harbormaster has been
working with him to get his boat to the condition that is required by the Monterey Marina, but he
said he has been very ill for the last two years.
Mr. Johnson said the first issue he cleared up with the Harbor Office was his outstanding
balance at the Marina. He said he also corrected the communication issue, and he cleaned up
the fingers around the slip where his boat is. He said he was unable to fix the pump out request
to test the holding tank to make sure it was clean and not leaking into the Harbor and the Bay.
Mr. Johnson said he has asked the Harbormaster for certain requests and time, and they have
given him time to correct the issues. He said, however, he has not been able to complete the
requests due to his illness; he said he has been focusing on his health and paying his bills. As
such, he said he has not been able to meet the requirements for his boat at the Harbor.
Mr. Johnson said the person who stayed on his boat only stayed for one night, but there were
some issues with this person, and he said he immediately had him removed the next day from
the boat.
Mr. Johnson said he uses the public restrooms at the Harbor and not on his boat because he
does not want his boat to smell. He said he does not know why there was a complaint about
odor, he said the Harbor office knows that he uses the public restrooms because he has a key
that is specific for him. He said that key gives his name, what time he went in and what time he
left.
Mr. Johnson said he is not sure why all these issues have been lined up for him as he can give
the names of at least 30 other boats that have not moved from the Harbor, and some do not
even have engines. He said these ‘things’ became problems after the interaction with the
person who had stayed on his boat for one night.
Mr. Johnson said he is trying to improve his health enough so he can get the boat operable and
so he can make the last improvements requested by the Harbor Office. He said it is
irresponsible of him and apologized for the delay. Mr. Johnson said between the procedures
and his treatments, he has not been able to finish the requests made by the Harbormaster.
Vice Chair Millich asked what it is going to take to get the boat operable. He asked Mr.
Johnson if he had a bid for what it is going to cost to fix. Mr. Johnson said he did have a bid,
but he did not have with him and that most of the bids were oral. He said he was told it would
cost about $10,000.00 to fix.
Vice Chair Millich asked Mr. Johnson when he thought he might have money to resolve the
issue. Mr. Johnson said the problem is getting a mechanic to come to the boat. He said it is
winter now and it is hard to get a diesel mechanic to come out to the boat at a rate he can
afford.
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Board member Glenzer asked Mr. Johnson if he was currently on the boat. Mr. Johnson said
he visits the boat. He said he can stay two nights a week on the boat and does when he is
working in town, otherwise he lives in his van.
Board member Glenzer asked Mr. Johnson if he had looked into any non-profit groups or
government programs that could help him stay on his boat, like groups that help people stay in
their homes during challenging times. Mr. Johnson said he has not looked into some help, he
does not know where to start, but said it is a different situation living on a boat and owning a
home.
Chair Hawkins asked Mr. Johnson if he had been living at the slip since 2007. Mr. Johnson
said he has been living at the Monterey Harbor since 2007.
Chair Hawkins asked Mr. Johnson if he removes the boat and stores it, would he be able to get
the slip back? Mr. Johnson said no because there is a very long list of people who want a slip.
Vice Chair Millich asked Mr. Johnson if he would take the boat to Moss Landing. Mr. Johnson
said he would take it to the Moss Landing boat yard not to dock it there. Mr. Johnson said after
the Decision is made, he will have to make some critical and expensive decisions regarding his
situation, which he said he cannot afford.
Chair Hawkins asked Mr. Johnson if he had any idea how long it was going to take to get his
health back to normal. Mr. Johnson said maybe three – six months before his health may
improve.
Public Comments
A woman, a coworker of Mr. Johnson, spoke on his behalf. She said she can verify that Mr.
Johnson has been dealing with health issues.
She said the smell that was complained about and was to be coming from Mr. Johnson’s boat
could have come from the mass of sea lions that were at the Harbor. She said they did leave
quite a smell and now there is a lot less of them and the smell has lessened.
Appellant, Scott Johnson thanked the Board and took responsibility for the situation.
Deputy City Attorney, Christian Wellisch, representative for the Harbor Office said the
liveaboard is not at issue at the hearing. He said that was only brought up to show that the
vessel has been inoperable since then and continues to be inoperable.
Ms. Salameh clarified that if a liveaboard permit is revoked, there is a time period where you
cannot reapply for that permit, but she does not believe that there is a similar time period for a
berth license if it is revoked. However, she said, a person would have to go to the bottom of the
waiting list which is a lengthy period of time.
Board Member Discussion
Vice Chair Millich said this is a very difficult human situation and the real issue is whether the
boat can be brought into an operable status within a set period of time and the answer to that is
no. Vice Chair Millich said we cannot kick the can down the road another 6-9 months and
question whether the situation will be any different then. He said he does not see how he can
grant Mr. Johnson’s appeal and feels that he must sustain the city’s position.
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Board member Glenzer asked Ms. Salameh if the liveaboard permit had been revoked and is
not in question at the hearing. He said since Mr. Johnson’s permit has been revoked, he is now
at the bottom of the list to gain a liveaboard permit for his vessel. Ms. Salameh agreed with
Board member Glenzer and stated there was no appeal for the revocation of the liveaboard
permit so that issue has been settled. She stated Mr. Johnson would go to the bottom of the
waitlist regardless of what decision is made here.
Board member Glenzer reiterated for the record that the liveaboard permit was not on the
board’s Agenda and not at issue at the hearing. Ms. Salameh again agreed with Board
member Glenzer.
Board member Glenzer said the City has done a lot, the Harbormaster has done a lot, they
have extended deadlines and he would like to give Mr. Johnson one last chance, but he is not
sure what that should be.
Chair Hawkins said sometimes in life things change and without a definite date of when things
will be normal again. He said sometimes you just have to make that tough decision, even with
a heavy heart.
Vice Chair Millich made a motion to uphold the Harbormasters decision.
Ms. Salameh noted that the packet did not include a Proposed Decision. She clarified the
motion with the Board. She asked if the Board would be finding that the vessel is currently
inoperable and therefore out of compliance with Chapter 17 of the City Code and base the
denial of the appeal on that.
Vice Chair Millich agreed with Ms. Salameh and remade his motion.
Chair Hawkins seconded the motion.
The motion carried by the following vote, which was conducted by roll call:
AYES: 2 COMMISSIONERS: Millich, Hawkins
NOES: 1 COMMISSIONERS: Glenzer
ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSTAIN: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
RECUSED: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS
None.
ADJOURNMENT
Chair Hawkins adjourned the hearing at 3:16 pm
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Respectfully Submitted, Approved,
Alicia Salas Daryl Hawkins
Recording Secretary Chair of the Board
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Agenda
Board Members
Kent Glenzer
Appeals Hearing Board Daryl Hawkins
Meeting Agenda Stephen Millich
Appeals Hearing Board Meeting City Attorney
M. Christine Davi
Friday, February 24, 2023
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CALL TO ORDER
CONSENT ITEMS
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Approval of Minutes
1. Minutes of January 5, 2023 (Not a project under CEQA per Article 20 Section
15378 and under General Rule Article 5 Section 15061).
2. Minutes of January 26, 2023 (Not a project under CEQA per Article 20 Section
15378 and under General Rule Article 5 Section 15061).
PUBLIC COMMENTS
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the agenda. Any person or group desiring to bring an item to the attention of the Board
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PUBLIC HEARING
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action. You are welcome to offer your comments after being recognized by the Chair.
The Board may limit the time allocated to each speaker.
3. Appeal of Harbormaster's revocation of Scott Johnson's berth license in the
Monterey Marina pursuant to Monterey City Code Section 17-7.b (Not a
Project under CEQA Article 20, Section 15378 and under General Rule Article
5, Section 15061).
BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS
Board members may ask a question for clarification, make a brief announcement or
make a brief report on his or her activities. In addition, the Appeals Hearing Board may
provide a referral to staff or other resources for factual information, request staff to report
back to the body at a subsequent meeting concerning any City matter, or direct staff to
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ADJOURNMENT
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