Historic Preservation Commission Meeting
Regular MeetingMonterey, CA · February 11, 2016
Minutes
MINUTES
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
Thursday, February 11, 2016
4:00 pm - 7:00 pm
580 PACIFIC STREET, COUNCIL CHAMBERS
MONTEREY, CALIFORNIA
Commissioners Present: O'Neil, O'Brien, Barlow, Hawley, Petty, Denley
Commissioners Absent: Smith-Crivello
Staff Members Present: Principal Planner Caraker, Associate Planner Roveri, Recording
Secretary Salameh
CALL TO ORDER
Chair O’Neil called the meeting to order at 4:02 p.m.
CONSENT ITEMS
Approval of Minutes
1. January 14, 2016
Action: Approved.
On a motion by Commissioner O'Brien, seconded by Commissioner Hawley, and carried
by the following vote, the Historic Preservation Commission approved the Consent
Agenda as submitted.
AYES: 5 COMMISSIONERS: Barlow, Hawley, O'Brien, O'Neil, Denley,
NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: 1 COMMISSIONERS: Smith-Crivello
ABSTAIN: 1 COMMISSIONERS: Petty
RECUSED: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
***End of Consent Agenda***
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Sherna Stewart, a Monterey resident since 1962, said that she would like to see the City
designate a Historic Preservation district that would span the Lower Presidio Historic
Park to the Royal Presidio Chapel. She said that she realized there are approximately
40 historic properties which are truly unique to the City and she would like to see more of
them mentioned on the City’s website. She asked that the HPC consider discussion of a
comprehensive historic district on their work program. She said she believes it would be
imperative for the preservation of the City and suggested NIP (Neighborhood
Improvement Program) funding could be a method to finance the project. She said that
the adobes are integral to the City and she wants to see their restorative character
maintained.
PUBLIC HEARING
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2. Consider 1320 David Avenue; Application P-15-426 for Removing 1320 David
Avenue from the New Monterey Reconnaissance Survey List; Applicant Seth
Bergstein; Owner Lynda Gibbons; R-1-5 Zoning District; Exempt from CEQA per
Article 18, Section 15270
Action: Adopted resolution denying the historic permit application.
Staff Presentation/Commissioner Comments
Associate Planner Roveri presented the Agenda Report and took Commissioners’
questions.
Commissioner Hawley asked why the style of the house was considered Victorian
Vernacular if its style was Post-War. She said that she would need more clarification on
the style of home.
Ms. Roveri said that the type of house was found in the historic context statement, which
was prepared by Past Consultants.
Chair O’Neil said the historic report may be stating that the house was a Vernacular-style
cottage with Victorian features.
Ms. Roveri referenced page nine of the Agenda packet, noting the definition of Victorian
Vernacular cottages. She said that their defining characteristic is a simple, rectangular
floor plan.
Commissioner Petty noted that the purpose of the reconnaissance survey is to identify
potentially historic buildings, and that every building could be potentially historic. He said
that it is important to note that everyone is on the list and that they can be removed from
the list once they no longer meet the criteria.
Commissioner Denley asked if the carport built in 1973 was reversible.
Ms. Roveri said yes, but that the connection to the house would still be visible. She
noted that it was not attached to the original residence, but to an addition so it would not
affect the integrity of the house.
Applicant
Seth Bergstein with Past Consultants presented Lynda Gibbons, the Applicant. Ms.
Gibbons said that she bought the house in 2013 and that her daughter will eventually live
there. She said that she lives in a historic home within a historic district in Boulder,
Colorado. She expressed her appreciation and support for historic homes and said that
she was surprised when she learned that 1320 David Avenue may be potentially historic
because it did not appear to be so at purchase.
Mr. Bergstein said that confusion seemed to be that the phrase “Victorian” is often used
to describe properties, but is not always accurate. He said that there are four time
periods and four types of Victorian cottages that appear throughout different time
periods. He noted that the garage was built to match the style of the house and that it
was not listed as a character-defining feature. He said that he did not believe the carport
or many of the features listed in the staff report to be reversible because of the damage
that would be done to the house in the process.
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Public Comment
Nancy Runyon, a New Monterey neighborhood resident, said that she believes this
house is historically significant. She said that it contributes to the character of the
neighborhood and she said that she supports staff’s recommendation to keep the house
on the reconnaissance list. She said that she fears if it is removed, then it will be
demolished and something out of character will replace it.
Kent Seavey said that he believes the house has been altered excessively and that he
believes this property is setting the bar too low for future houses with historic potential.
He noted that carports now need review and garages are a key element of twentieth
century design. He suggested that the Neighborhood Association create design
guidelines in order to prevent this type of situation in the future.
Patricia Domingo, a resident of New Monterey and member of the New Monterey
Neighborhood Association Board, referenced the letter written to staff regarding the
Board’s wishes for 1320 David Avenue to stay on the New Monterey Reconnaissance
Survey. She said that this is a very thorough process and her property just missed the
survey in New Monterey, although she would have been thrilled to be on it.
Commissioner Comments
Commissioner Petty noted that the opinions of staff and Past Consultants are opposed
and he saw no nuances between the two.
Commissioner Petty asked if the original structure had been so altered that it was no
longer a worthy example of a historic property and if it should be removed from the list.
Chair O’Neil said that the addition seemed very intact and that it seemed to follow the
Secretary of the Interior’s Standards. She noted that outside of the carport the rooflines
were visible, but it looked similar to other houses in the area.
Commissioner Hawley said that the Secretary of the Interior’s Standards apply to historic
buildings, but they would not apply in this case because when the addition occurred the
building was not classified as historic.
Commissioner Barlow said that this was a difficult determination to make, taking into
account the consideration of a possible Mills Act contract regarding the house, and that
nothing had been radically changed on the exterior.
Chair O’Neil asked what process the Applicant would need to follow if they were denied
being taken off the list and they would like to modify the house in the future.
Principal Planner Caraker explained the options for alterations to a historic property.
Vice Chair O’Brien said she would not like to see the house taken off of the list because it
is a vernacular cottage. She noted that this is a sensitive issue to Monterey’s historic
background.
Commissioner Hawley noted that removing the garage would be a very big move
because it would involve removing half of the building.
Ms. Roveri said that the garage is not a character-defining feature.
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Commissioner Hawley said that vernacular cottages did not have garages.
Ms. Roveri said that she did not speak about the garage because it was not a finding she
had to make in order to keep the property on the New Monterey Reconnaissance Survey.
Commissioner Petty said that he believes unless there is a preponderance of evidence,
the house may have to remain on the list regardless of the modifications previously
made.
Chair O’Neil said that when little houses are lost and large houses replace them, it is
then that the character of the neighborhood begins to vanish. She said that character is
what makes Monterey such a wonderful place to live.
Commissioner Barlow said that he believed in preservation, despite the alterations
already made to the home. He said that he supported staff’s recommendation for
keeping it on the reconnaissance survey.
Commissioner Hawley said that vernacular cottages, on a small scale, are a lovely part of
Monterey’s fabric. She noted that this one had been significantly altered and said that
she believed the HPC may be setting the bar too low for future, similar properties and
that by doing so, the HPC may be requiring the homeowner to adhere to costly
standards. She also asked that the vernacular cottage descriptors be updated.
On a motion by Commissioner O'Brien, seconded by Commissioner Barlow, and carried
by the following vote, the Historic Preservation Commission adopted a resolution denying
the historic permit application.
AYES: 4 COMMISSIONERS: Barlow, O'Brien, O'Neil, Petty
NOES: 2 COMMISSIONERS: Hawley, Denley
ABSENT: 1 COMMISSIONERS: Smith-Crivello
ABSTAIN: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
RECUSED: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
PUBLIC APPEARANCE
3. Consider Application P-16-047 for Adopting a Historic Preservation Report for 720
Via Mirada (Monterey Museum of Art). Owner: Monterey Museum of Art, Applicant:
Charlotte Eyerman; Zoning: R-E-20-D1-H1; General Plan: Low Density Residential;
Exempt from CEQA per Section 15331
Action: Adopted a resolution adopting a Historic Preservation Report (application
P-16-047) for 720 Via Mirada (Monterey Museum of Art).
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Staff Presentation/Commissioner Comments
Principal Planner Caraker presented the Agenda Report and answered Commissioners’
questions.
Applicant
Dan Fletcher, on behalf of the Monterey Museum of Art, said that the report is being done
at this time because of ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) Compliance and that there is
currently no project at the time.
Seth Bergstein of Past Consultants said that the goal is to determine a historic context for
the building.
Charles Moore, Architect, said that at the moment they are working to establish an
interpretive period with character-defining characteristics.
Public Comment
Julie Work-Beck, the oldest remaining member of the Work family, said that she did not
know this application was under consideration until the day prior when she read the report.
She thanked the HPC and staff for their work and said that history in Monterey is
undervalued and that she would like to keep historic fabric of the City intact. In reading the
report, she said there seems to be some more information she could add because she is
the keeper of the Work family archives and they are extensive. She said that she has many
things and many memories of La Mirada. She said that she also has bills of sale from
Frances Elkins to the Work family and she believed they could be of great value to the
report.
Commissioner Hawley asked if Ms. Work-Beck could prove her ownership.
Ms. Work-Beck said that she could present the bills of sale.
Chair O’Neil suggested that Ms. Work-Beck and the Applicant work together.
Mr. Bergstein said that this was a more challenging project because Ms. Elkins designed
interiors, but they cannot accurately document what the rooms looked like. He said that he
was not aware of Ms. Work-Beck’s archives, but that he would like to see them. He noted
that a true challenge is putting interiors together without knowledge of what they previously
looked like. He said that Ms. Elkins’ work was very important, but he was not sure if it was
of primary importance to the report.
Commissioner Comments
Commissioner Hawley asked if it was necessary for the report to be limited to one
interpretive period.
Chair O’Neil said that often primary and subordinate periods will be featured as a guide
within a report.
Commissioner Hawley asked if any additions or alterations would need to respect the
interpretive period of the adopted report.
Ms. Caraker said once the report is adopted, the proposed alterations should remain
consistent with that is outlined within the report. She explained that a report has a life of
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three years and it can be updated after it expires.
Commissioner Hawley said that it seems that there are three periods outlined within the
report. She said that the floor-to-ceiling windows seem like a significant architectural
feature that she would worry could be altered if the Work Period was not encompassed as a
part of the Interpretive Period.
Chair O’Neil noted that the museum is classified as an H-1 building and therefore all
alterations must be reviewed.
Ms. Caraker said that the windows could not be altered or destroyed unless the report was
altered to reflect that. She said the restoration projects on the last page of the report
recognized a single interpretive period.
Commissioner Petty said that all of the periods listed on the report took place during the
Morris Period and he felt inclined to accept staff’s report that the HPC approve the Morris
Period at the primary period for the report.
Vice Chair O’Brien said that she would like to see the Work Period included and the family’s
personal records put to use in restoring the history of the project, as well as the Morris
Period.
Commissioner Hawley noted that those could be the touchstones by which the rehabilitation
should be designed.
Commissioner Petty asked Mr. Bergstein if he believed that the Morris Period is mostly
significant because of the changes to the exterior whereas the Work Period is significant
because of interior modifications.
Mr. Bergstein said that the report does not denounce other periods and that both periods
are equally significant.
Commissioner Petty said that he understood and he would like to more fully understand
each period.
Mr. Bergstein explained that the Work family collected antiques and that preservationists
are having a difficult time accurately placing the items in the rooms in the museum, as they
have no visual guide of the placement of the furniture from the time period.
Chair O’Neil noted that they are taking into consideration the building itself, not how it’s
furnished.
Commissioner Hawley asked if exterior modifications should be consistent with the
Secretary of the Interior’s Standards.
Ms. Caraker said yes, and alterations would also need to be consistent with the report. It
would also be able to be amended.
Commissioner Barlow said that he would like to see the Work family archives explored with
an open mind.
On a motion by Commissioner Barlow, seconded by Commissioner Denley, and carried
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by the following vote, the Historic Preservation Commission adopted a resolution
adopting a Historic Preservation Report (application P-16-047) for 720 Via Mirada
(Monterey Museum of Art).
AYES: 6 COMMISSIONERS: Barlow, Hawley, O'Brien, O'Neil, Petty, Denley
NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: 1 COMMISSIONERS: Smith-Crivello
ABSTAIN: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
RECUSED: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Commissioner Hawley asked if there was a way to obtain Charles Morris’ thesis on
contemporizing adobes.
Ms. Caraker said that she would look into that.
Chair O’Neil said that they the HPC had been asked for their input on a commemorative
plaque for Virginia McLain and the HPC discussed and decided upon wording options for
the plaque.
Commissioner Petty said that some Commissioners had mentioned that the bar was
being set too low for the reconnaissance list and he said in the spirit of preservation, the
bar needs to be set high before properties can be removed.
Commissioner Barlow: said that approximately 30 people attended the Hartnell Gulch
Community meeting.
INFORMATIONAL REPORTS & STAFF COMMENTS
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 5:48 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted, Approved,
Elizabeth Caraker, AICP Chair
Principal Planner Historic Preservation Commission
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Agenda
Historic Preservation Commission Commissioners
Agenda Carol O’Neil, Chair
Jean O’Brien, Vice Chair
Regular Meeting Christopher Barlow
Charles Denley
Thursday, February 11, 2016 Merritt Hawley
Bob Petty
580 Pacific Street Jerilynn Smith-Crivello
4:00 pm - 7:00 pm
Council Chambers
Monterey, California
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2016 to review the Thursday February 11, 2016 Historic Preservation Commission
Agenda. The Historic Preservation Commission will depart from the field behind
Colton Hall at 4:00 PM. For more information call (831) 646-3885. Date Posted:
February 5, 2016
CALL TO ORDER
CONSENT ITEMS
CONSENT ITEMS allow for a review of those items recommended for approval on consent or
recommended to be continued, tabled or withdrawn, etc. Consent items consist of those items
which are routine and for which a staff recommendation has been prepared. A member of the
public or a Commissioner may request that an item recommended for approval on consent be
heard on the regular agenda for further discussion.
Approval of Minutes
1. January 14, 2016
***End of Consent Agenda***
PUBLIC COMMENTS
PUBLIC COMMENTS. At this time, the public may speak for a maximum of three minutes on any
subject which is within the jurisdiction of the Monterey Historic Preservation Commission and
which is not on the agenda. Any person or group desiring to bring an item to the attention of the
Commission may do so during Public Comments or by addressing a letter of explanation to the
Commission, City Hall, Monterey, CA 93940. Public Comments are taken during the afternoon
session and continued at the evening session. Individuals may choose to speak once for up to
three minutes at either session, but not both.
PUBLIC HEARING
PUBLIC HEARINGS are required by law for certain actions. You are welcome to offer your
comments after being recognized by the Chair. The Chair may limit the time allocated to each
speaker. Project representation is encouraged.
2. Consider 1320 David Avenue; Application P-15-426 for Removing 1320 David
Avenue from the New Monterey Reconnaissance Survey List; Applicant Seth
Bergstein; Owner Lynda Gibbons; R-1-5 Zoning District; Exempt from CEQA per
Article 18, Section 15270
PUBLIC APPEARANCE
PUBLIC APPEARANCE items are reports on action or informational issues that might stimulate
public discussion, but that do not require formal noticing as public hearings. You are welcome to
offer your comments after being recognized by the Chair. The Chair may limit the time allocated to
each speaker.
3. Consider Application P-16-047 for Adopting a Historic Preservation Report for 720
Via Mirada (Monterey Museum of Art) . Owner: Monterey Museum of Art, Applicant:
Charlotte Eyerman; Zoning: R-E-20-D1-H1; General Plan: Low Density Residential;
Exempt from CEQA per Section 15331
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
COMMISSIONERS may ask a question for clarification, make a brief announcement or make a
brief report on his or her activities. In addition, a Commissioner may provide a referral to staff or
other resources for factual information, request staff to report back to the body at a subsequent
meeting concerning any City matter, or direct staff to place a request to agendize a matter of
business on a future agenda. (G.C. 54954.2)
INFORMATIONAL REPORTS & STAFF COMMENTS
INFORMATIONAL REPORTS & STAFF COMMENTS supply information on activities or
announcements and may request clarification or direction regarding the scheduling of meetings
and study sessions.
ADJOURNMENT
ADJOURNMENT— The general policy of the Historic Preservation Commission is that the Afternoon
Session will end no later than 6:30 p.m. Any public agenda items that have not been completed within
the designated adjournment time may be formally extended by the Commission, or continued to the
next regularly scheduled Historic Preservation Commission Meeting, or continued to a Special Meeting.
Agenda packets may be reviewed by the public in the Monterey Public Library, in the Planning Office,
or on the web at http://www.monterey.org/ beginning late Friday afternoon prior to the date of the
meeting.
Members of the public have the right to address the Commission on any Agenda items. The Chair will
formally open the floor for public comment. However, if you wish to speak to items during "Consent
Agenda" or "Staff Informational Report," please advise the staff or the Chair prior to the action on that
item and you will be recognized. Notification as much in advance as possible is appreciated.
Information distributed to the Commission at the meeting becomes part of the public record. A copy of
written material, pictures, etc. should be provided to the Secretary for this purpose.
Historic Preservation Commission decisions may be appealed within ten (10) days from the date of the
decision on forms available in the Planning Division during business hours. When the tenth day falls
on a weekend or a holiday, the appeal deadline date is the next working day following the holiday or
weekend. For more agenda information, call the Planning Office at (831) 646-3885.
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UPCOMING MEETINGS AT CITY HALL
Feb 12 Council Subcommittee BCC, Monterey, CA - 2:00 PM
Feb 16 Council Regular Meeting, Council Chamber - 4:00 PM
Feb 17 Architectural Review Committee Meeting, Council Chamber - 4:00 pm
Feb 17 Council Subcommittee BCC, Monterey, CA - 10:00 AM
Feb 18 Parks and Recreation Commission Meeting, Council Chamber - 7:00 PM
Feb 18 Zoning Administrator Meeting, Council Chamber - 4:00 pm
Feb 19 Council Subcommittee BCC, Monterey, CA - 2:00 PM
Feb 22 Colton Hall Museum Cultural Art Commission Meeting, Council Chamber - 4:00 pm
Feb 23 Planning Commission Meeting, Council Chamber - 4:00 pm
Feb 23 Council Subcommittee BCC, Monterey, CA - 10:00 AM
Feb 24 Oversight Board Meeting, Council Chamber - 7:00 PM
Feb 24 Council Study Session, Council Chamber - 4:00 PM
Feb 24 Library Board Meeting, Library Community Room - 5:00 PM
Feb 24 Neighborhood Improvement Program Committee Meeting, Council Chamber - 7:00 PM
Feb 26 Council Subcommittee BCC, Monterey, CA - 2:00 PM
Mar 1 Council Regular Meeting, Council Chamber - 4:00 PM
Mar 2 Architectural Review Committee Meeting, Council Chamber - 4:00 pm
Mar 3 Zoning Administrator Meeting, Council Chamber - 4:00 pm
Mar 7 MP Regional Water Authority TAC Meeting, Council Chamber - 10:30 AM
Mar 8 Planning Commission Meeting, Council Chamber - 4:00 pm
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