Accommodations Tax Advisory Committee
Regular MeetingMount Pleasant, SC · November 15, 2018
Minutes
ACCOMMODATIONS TAX ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 12:00pm
Municipal Complex, Committee Meeting Room, 3rd Floor
100 Ann Edwards Lane
Mount Pleasant, SC 29464
MINUTES
PRESENT: Cheryl Craven, Shannon Hartman, Rebecca Gosnell,
Brumby McLeod, and Vishal Patel
ABSENT: Su McManus Frost and Laurie Bixler
ALSO PRESENT: Tom O’Rourke, Council Liaison
STAFF PRESENT: Lauren Sims, Community & Government Affairs Chief
Ms. Gosnell called the meeting to order at 12:00 noon.
I. Approval of the minutes from the March 7 and 8, 2018 meetings
Ms. Craven moved for approval as submitted; seconded by Ms.
Hartman. All present voted in favor.
II. Public Comments
[None]
III. Election of Accommodations Tax Advisory Committee Chairman
Ms. Gosnell stated that Ms. Frost is stepping down as chair of the
committee due to work conflicts.
Ms. Craven nominated Ms. Rebecca Gosnell; seconded by Ms.
Hartman. All present voted in favor.
Ms. Sims stated that typically the Business Tourism Manager in this
role; however, the Town is currently in the process of rehiring. She
stated for this year, the remaining balance available is $144,800. She
stated that expenditures to date this year are $18,000 for external
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special events and the internal special events have been provided to
Committee members in their budget report.
Ms. Gosnell stated that for clarification, is the amount shown for the
Patriots Point Fourth of July coming from ATAC.
Ms. Sims responded in the affirmative.
IV. FY 19/20 (January – June) Funding Presentations
A. SC Aquarium – Charleston Waterfront
Chloe Garrison, Foundation Relations Coordinator for the South
Carolina Aquarium, thanked ATAC for their consideration for their
proposal for the Charleston Waterfront Pass. She stated that her
colleague would be presenting.
Brent Duncan, Senior Manager of Advertising and Public Affairs for
the South Carolina Aquarium, stated that they have the Charleston
Waterfront Pass and are excited to be working with the partners
from Patriots Point. He said this is the first time in several years
that they have had anything such as this. He said it is a seamless
transition into a larger partnership. He said this summer they had a
pilot launch of the program and saw great sales; however, they only
had this pass available for sale at the four sponsored CACVB
visitors’ centers. He said this joint pass allows individuals to get into
Patriots Point, as well as the Aquarium and have round-trip
transport via the Charleston Water Taxi for one price. He said that
this has worked in larger markets such as Baltimore and Boston, so
it was a next step for them to take their relationships to the next
level. He said this funding will allow them to take this
advertisement and promotion of this project outside the market.
He said both Patriots Point and the Aquarium have similar
demographics and targets when it relates to advertisements, such
at Charlotte, Columbia, Greenville and similar markets. He said this
funding would allow them to reach these areas with sponsored
content, in addition to partnering with several hotels in Mount
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Pleasant as well. He said they would include this in online content
as well as traditional outdoor boards as well.
Ms. Gosnell asked if the Water Taxi is a privately-owned business.
Mr. Duncan responded in the affirmative.
Ms. Gosnell asked how many people participated as riders in their
pilot program.
Mr. Duncan stated that the Water Taxi’s capacity is approximately
40 riders and given the schedules, they saw that they were fairly
full. He said the goal for this project was 400 in the span of a few
months and they did reach their goal. He said knowing the
limitation of only being able to sell through CACVB, they will
continue to do this through the winter and try to take this program
online and offer online sales. He said this will assist when it comes
to advertisement and directing people to the link, so they are able
to purchase on-demand to visit both attractions.
Ms. Gosnell asked that when an individual goes online to look at an
advanced ticket purchase for the Aquarium or Patriots Point, is this
currently not an option.
Mr. Duncan stated that they suspended just a few weeks ago until
they were able to get online sales launched. He said their goal
would be to do this before the end of the year.
Ms. Gosnell stated that she would imagine that the ticket is really
appealing to those who have already made a commitment to visit
one of those properties and this is simply a convenience option.
Mr. Duncan stated that it is. He added that the Aquarium does not
receive any funding from the parking. He said the Aquarium garage
is a City of Charleston owned property. He said he is more than
happy to send people over to Patriots Point to park and once there,
they can spend the morning at Patriots Point, then take the Water
Taxi to the Aquarium for the afternoon. He said it is in the spirit of
the program to be a one-stop ticket for people to enjoy their day.
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Ms. Gosnell asked if this would be a stand-alone promotion of the
pass or would it be integrated into “Come Visit the Aquarium”
advertising. She asked if it is a one or the other investment; will this
promote both Patriots Point and the Aquarium in those ads, and
how is this set up.
Mr. Duncan stated that there are joint logos on many of their
placements. He stated that there is a website created called
“Charlestonwaterfrontpass.com” so any type of digital advertising,
outdoor boards or rotating graphics would direct people to that
site. It would not be directing people solely to Patriots Point or the
Aquarium.
Ms. Gosnell asked why they decided to go this route versus
pursuing a City Pass program where people who are already
traveling are used to searching out City Pass for ticket options.
Mr. Duncan said they went this route so that the cost is not passed
along to the consumer. He said they are able to offer 20% off
jointly. He said City Pass is a trade-marked company, so it operates
in larger metro areas. He said for the pilot stage and the first year,
it made more sense to keep this as an intimate product.
Mr. McLeod asked if during the pilot program, were they able to
capture the hotel room stays.
Mr. Duncan stated that they are not tracking hotel stays. He said
Patriots Point does this with their gate admissions. He said that
although the Aquarium does care about those numbers, when they
are coming through their gates, they are there whether they are
there for a day visit or not. He said they do have certain hotels that
send them more business, because they sell tickets directly from
those hotels.
Ms. Hartman stated that she is the Director of Sales and Marketing
at the Charleston Harbor Resort where the Water Taxi is housed,
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and she was not aware of this initiative. She believes they could be
a good hotel to partner with since they are at Patriots Point.
Mr. Duncan stated that they would like to be as collaborative as
possible. He said the Aquarium has done certain promotions with
the resort for spring break, but it is great for sponsored content,
because this is where you can track and measure all the analytics
and see who the ads are affecting. He said it is very cost effective to
reach a number of people. He said this is why in Charlotte the rates
for outdoor boards are so high, so doing something such as this
project, especially when they are able to partner this with trade,
will make the dollar go that much further.
Ms. Gosnell asked if they had confirmed funding.
Mr. Duncan stated that they have it with the City of Charleston.
Ms. Gosnell asked if the program will move forward if they do not
receive funding from the Town of Mount Pleasant.
Mr. Duncan stated that it will continue to move forward, but likely
not at the scale they would like to see.
Ms. Hartman asked if the Water Taxi ticket was included
complimentary with the package.
Mr. Duncan said that it was not but was a higher percentage off
than a stand-alone ticket or through other partner programs. He
said the Aquarium assumes the cost of advertising and promoting
this program. He said Patriots Point is a partner in the reconciliation
and budget process as well as the disbursement of funds to both
organizations. He said the promotion itself lies with the Aquarium
which is why they are the organization requesting funding.
B. USS Yorktown Foundation – Vietnam Photographic Exhibit
Allison Hunt, Executive Director of the USS Yorktown Foundation,
which is the support organization for Patriots Point Naval and
Maritime Museum. She introduced Kayla Halchak, Marketing
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Manager for the Museum. She said they have been able to do a lot
of projects and appreciate all the support the Town has provided.
She said they are requesting funds today for a national archive
traveling exhibit that is entitled, “Picturing Nam” and it is a carefully
curated collection of photographs taken by military photographers
during the Vietnam War that provides an intimate and ground up
view of the war and those who fought it. She stated that it will be
displayed in the Harbor Room, which is next to the Smokey Stover
Theatre from January 24th through March 31, 2019 and there will
be no additional fee for this and is a value-added exhibit for the
paying guests who come to the ship and museum. She said Vietnam
Veterans Day falls on March 29th and is very popular and very well
attended so they expect a great deal of traffic in there through that
time. She added that all veterans are admitted free on Vietnam
Veterans Day, courtesy of business sponsorships, so they plan to
host a major symposium around Vietnam Veterans Day this year as
well as around this exhibit and this event. She said the contract
with the National Archives and Records Administration requires
quite a bit of preparation for this space, so that is built into the
request, plus the fee for the actual exhibit.
Ms. Gosnell complimented the staff on the calculation of
attendance, which was a well thought out attendance projection.
She asked if Patriots Point is planning to request any additional
funding for other symposium requests this year.
Ms. Hunt responded in the negative and said this is the only one.
Ms. Gosnell asked if there would be any special school promotions
for students.
Ms. Hunt stated that they would definitely be looking into this. She
said they are currently in the planning phases of the exhibit, but
this will absolutely be a part of what they are trying to accomplish.
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Ms. Halchak stated that part of their marketing push is meeting
with their Group Sales team who have regular schools and hotels
they will be sharing the information with.
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C. Charleston Jazz Festival
Tatjana Beylotte, Director of Development at Charleston Jazz,
stated that they are a first time applicant. She stated that she has
been there for approximately three months. She said they are
presenting their annual jazz festival this January, which this funding
will help promote. She said they draw approximately 3,000 jazz fans
from all over the southeast. She said last year, approximately 26%
came from outside the greater Charleston area. She said this
festival is a four-day event and brings internationally known
performers to Charleston. She said this year, their headliner is
Bobby McFerrin and putting him in collaboration with Ranky Tanky,
which is one of the local jazz groups that have made it big and are
now playing on international festival stages. She said they are
commissioning both of these performers to create music together
for the first time. They will be playing on Saturday night (January
26, 2019) at the Gaillard Center. On Thursday night, they will be
bringing in a Puerto Rican flautist, Nestor Torres, who will play at
the Charleston Music Hall. On Friday night, they will present
Charleston Jazz Bands. She said they have an open call for
performers to apply and they select four or five groups to play on
Friday, the 25th and will perform at Dockery’s on Daniel Island. She
said on Sunday, they have Family Day where they feature the best
of the High School Jazz performers here in the area, many of whom
come from Wando High School. She said they also provide
opportunities to bands outside of Charleston to come and for an
afternoon at the Sottile Theatre, they perform with members of the
Charleston Jazz Orchestra. She said that event is free for children.
Ms. Gosnell stated that she noticed that there are no Mount
Pleasant locations in the schedule and was not sure how they
calculated their room nights. She stated that the application is
being submitted based on the fact that the applicant anticipates
their guests will be staying in Mount Pleasant hotels; however, she
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does not have any information on how they made this
determination.
Ms. Beylotte stated that she blocked rooms with two hotels in
Mount Pleasant and they will be promoting this in their festival
promotions to encourage the visitors to take advantage of the
room block and special room rate.
Ms. Gosnell asked for the number of hotels they have blocked
room nights with.
Ms. Beylotte stated that they only have two hotels in Mount
Pleasant in total.
Mr. McLeod asked if the additional funding is from the City of
Charleston or Charleston County.
Ms. Beylotte stated that they are both providing funding.
Ms. Gosnell stated that she believes the Bobby McFerrin and Ranky
Tanky event will sell well and hopes, as a headliner, will draw a
great deal of attention to the overall festival. She stated that jazz is
a very important cultural piece for Charleston and people rarely
understand how the Jenkins Orphanage played a role in the
emergence of jazz in America. She said it is important that we keep
that cultural aspect alive here.
D. Lowcountry Oyster Festival
Jenny Peppler, Membership & Special Events Coordinator, Greater
Charleston Restaurant Association, and with the Charleston
Restaurant Foundation, they put on the Lowcountry Oyster Festival.
She said they are gearing up for the end of January on the 27th for
the 36th Annual Oyster Festival at Boone Hall Plantation. She said
this year they will have some new changes and will be highlighting
some of the changes as far as the oyster recycling efforts. She said
they will also be promoting their benefitting charities, so the guests
will know this event is for charity.
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Ms. Gosnell asked about attendance over the past three years.
Ms. Peppler stated that it has been great. This past January they
had black clouds the entire day, so attendance was half at 5,000.
She said the two years prior to that, was strong at 10,000
attendees, which is Boone Hall’s request, so they do cap this event.
Ms. Gosnell asked how they will spend the money the Town is
proposing to provide.
Ms. Peppler stated that almost half of the attendees are from out
of the tri-county area, so this is added to the marketing efforts to
reach Greenville, Columbia, Charlotte and others, to get them to
attend.
Ms. Gosnell stated that the Town needs very clarified receipts back
because they do give out scholarships and the Town’s funds cannot
co-mingle under the rules of the Accommodations Tax Advisory
Committee. She stated that they must demonstrate that all the
funding goes directly into the marketing budget and that the logo is
on their marketing materials.
Mr. McLeod asked how the Hospitality Association and the GCRA
merger impacts this application. He asked if there was any shared
ownership.
Ms. Peppler stated that there is no impact. The Foundation is the
501c3 which is completely separate of the merger.
Ms. Gosnell asked if the Taste of Charleston will return.
Ms. Peppler stated that it may.
E. College of Charleston Softball Program
Linda Calafatis, Head Softball Coach at the College of Charleston
said there are just under 300 division 1 softball programs in the
country and the majority of those cannot play when our season
opens up, which makes locations such as ours very favorable. She
said they would like to continue to recruit or attract some of the
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best names in softball. She said this year, they have 16 teams
coming to three tournaments and three of the conference schools
coming. She said the hotel piece that was added was a huge help.
She added that they were able to contract with all the schools or
require in their game contract that they stay in Mount Pleasant
hotels. She stated that unfortunately one team had already made
their arrangement, so there will be 18 teams that will be staying in
Mount Pleasant. She said just the teams alone is 804 room nights,
not including the three conference schools or fans, which are more
difficult to track. She stated that they expect 1,100 to 1,200 hotel
nights in Mount Pleasant.
Ms. Gosnell asked what their promotions are and are they only to
these teams, and digital.
Ms. Calafatis responded in the affirmative. She said what they are
going to attempt to do this year is get their communications
department to do a graphic for each and send that graphic onto the
teams and request that they put it on their own page, as well as
their athletic page. She stated that NC State has over 80,000
followers on their athletic site. She said if they are able to get all
the schools to post the graphic on their direct sites and on their
athletic sites, she believes it will attract a lot of attention.
Ms. Hartman asked if the teams come from all over.
Ms. Calafatis stated that all of the teams this year are from out of
state.
Ms. Gosnell stated that it appears that no profit will be made.
F. 2019 Southeastern Wildlife Exposition
John Powell, Executive Director of SEWE, stated that they are
excited about February and some of the things they have
accomplished to work more closely with Mount Pleasant. He said
they actually submitted two applications this year. He said they still
have a few waterfowl events in Mount Pleasant. He said they are
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excited to work more closely with Charleston Harbor Resort where
they will host artists and lectors throughout the year and help
promote all the fishing tournaments and other activities there
through their database and media lists.
He said he would like to speak about the second application.
Through discussions of having a presence in Mount Pleasant, not
just during SEWE weekend, but permanently. They have an
opportunity to bring public sculpture to Waterfront Park and
beyond. He met with Councilwoman Whitley and Nicole Harvey and
they have looked at places where they can put permanent bases to
public sculptures starting with six sculptures conservatively. Rather
than these being semi-permanent or up for a three or four-month
period, the idea evolved into having them up for a full year and
then rotating them out. He said they are still working on it from a
budget standpoint. He said some of it is not as complicated as they
believed. He said they were also working with the individual who is
doing some of the bases for some other projects in Mount
Pleasant. He said they are working to streamline this process.
Ms. Gosnell asked if the sculptures were on loan from the artist.
Mr. Powell responded in the affirmative. He said they have several
to choose from. He said Brooke Green Gardens has also offered a
list of some nice pieces, because they are excited about public
sculpture.
Ms. Gosnell stated that Mount Pleasant has been working hard to
improve their visual arts. She said we are already in the business of
sculpture bases for a number of projects.
Mr. Powell stated that he does not want to infringe on those but
believes what they are doing is unique and stated that the six or
eight pieces they begin with will be indigenous to the region.
Ms. Gosnell asked how the funding they are requesting from the
Town for the sculpture program would specifically be used.
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Mr. Powell stated for marketing and for working with the Town. He
said in discussions, who pays for what when it comes to the bases
for these sculptures. They have not worked this out at this time, so
their request is lessened by what the Town is willing to do
internally. He said if they need to utilize some of their resources,
obviously they will do this as well.
Ms. Gosnell asked how the sculptures would be insured and who
will hold the liability.
Mr. Powell stated that they will.
Ms. Gosnell stated that the initial proposal for the SEWE event is
the same proposal seen every year. She asked if there was anything
new going on in Mount Pleasant on the SEWE schedule.
Mr. Powell stated that nothing other than the events held at the
Omar Shrine Temple regarding the Waterfowl Association, as well
as the potential opening of the sculpture program.
Ms. Hartman stated that she appreciates the efforts of trying to
bring Mount Pleasant into this event and some of the other things
they are attempting to do to partner with the Town to bring SEWE
across the bridge to Mount Pleasant. She said it is very much
appreciated.
Mr. Powell said that this provides them with the opportunity to do
things throughout the year with the sculpture exhibit which can be
marketed 365 days a year.
G. 2019 Charleston Challenge Cup
Rhonda Sanders, stated that this event is similar every year. She
stated that it is approximately 500 rooms between the two
tournaments with approximately 5,000 visitors. Half of the visitors
are from other places.
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Ms. Gosnell stated that it appears that the attendance projections
are about the same. She asked if the attendance numbers were
met last year.
Ms. Sanders responded in the affirmative. She said they may also
be larger, as the event is growing. However, no one estimated
higher.
Ms. Gosnell asked if they had the option of requiring their
participants to do their hotel bookings in Mount Pleasant.
Ms. Sanders responded in the affirmative. She said it is “stay and
play”. She said they are provided with a list of hotels where they
are required to stay.
Mr. Patel asked how the requirement to stay in the dedicated
hotels is enforced. How is it tracked?
Ms. Sanders stated that they check on how many teams book
rooms and if they do not use “stay and play”, they forfeit and will
not be able to play. She said the hotels are typically less, because
the hotels provide a good discount. She said it is in the
February/March timeframe, so it is somewhat the off season for
tourists.
Ms. Gosnell advised ATAC members that their packets contain the
fall and spring shootout.
Ms. Sanders stated that she thought this was only for the two
spring shootouts.
Ms. Gosnell stated that Ms. Sanders is correct. She said there are
two events.
H. 2019 Charleston Spring Shootout
[addressed above]
I. Mount Pleasant Symphony Orchestra
Tyler All, President of the Southcoast Symphony is here with
executive director, Dawn Durst. They have performed in Mount
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Pleasant for the past three or four years at Christ Church. He said
this project represents them wanting to make their permanent
home in Mount Pleasant and broaden this by marketing this project
as the Mount Pleasant Symphony Orchestra. He said they believe
that Mount Pleasant deserves their own orchestra which is what
they want to do.
Dawn Durst, stated that she has been a musician and fundraiser in
Charleston and the Mount Pleasant communities for many years.
She said East Cooper is looking for a seed for cultural livability and
they are that seed and are working with the Town Administrator,
Lauren Sims and others. She said they need to work on a name for
themselves and would like it to be in coordination with the Town
and what the Town will look like in the future. She stated that they
are very open to this and working on it. She has great people in the
community and a public relations individual from Los Angeles, who
has volunteered to help with this issue in coordination with the
Town. She said all of the funding provided is being spent on
marketing. She said in order to make it easier on ATAC, they are
calling it the “Post Brunch Series”, which is on a Sunday afternoon
at 4 p.m. at Christ Church in Mount Pleasant. She said the
restaurants really like it.
Ms. Gosnell stated that she is very excited about the name.
Ms. Durst stated that she has a lot of people from Sullivan’s Island
and Isle of Palms that provide the bulk of the funding and actually
had a drive-by donation of $10,000.
Ms. Gosnell said that when they were presenting previously, they
were very hopeful about their corporate and individual sponsorship
efforts and asked how this was progressing.
Ms. Durst stated that as she mentioned, she had a drive-by
donation of $10,000 and said she can start there. She has a full
church with 500 people, standing room only. She also has Dorothea
Benton Frank, who will be reading “The Night Before Christmas” for
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the Christmas show, which they will be doing with the Christ
Church Choir. She said no one understands how awesome Mount
Pleasant really is and the depth of this Town. She said the Christ
Church Choir will be going to Carnegie Hall, which is a very big deal.
She said they are also getting people from out of Town. She said
she had a wonderful donation in the basket from the last concert
from a woman who resides in Bellingham, Washington and three or
four other donations for $50 from North Carolina. She said they are
serving people from outside of Charleston. She said as she speaks,
she has a fantastic group of musicians at the Chamber of
Commerce doing a Nashville fiddle Christmas performance. She
said they have been trying to be more engaged in the civic events
that are hosted here in the Town. She thanked the Town and said
they were able to get the College of Charleston to do a new website
for them, as well as a lot of advertising, so it has been great.
J. Charleston Wine + Food
Gillian Zettler, Executive Director, stated that she has been in this
position for the past five years. She stated that they are so excited
and thankful for ATAC’s past consideration of funding, as there was
a significant increase in the funding request. She recognized from
some of the Council meeting minutes that there was some point of
contention on this, so she wanted to address those with the ATAC
members. She understands that there were questions on the size
and number of events that took place in the Town of Mount
Pleasant. She said beginning with her tenure here with the festival,
there were only two events that were taking place in the Town, one
of which was a small dinner and this year there are seven events.
She said two of them are large signature events and she would like
to say that their marquee dinner has received significant press over
the past few years, so they are now doing three smaller marquee
dinners. One will be held in the Old Village and the host chef is Ben
Berryhill. She said none of these are being held on the peninsula so
for them, this is much bigger than a King Street event. She said she
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is a Mount Pleasant resident and it is important that the Town is
also a part of the landscape of this event. She said that Marriot
Rewards Credit Cards has returned as a National Partner this year
and while those hotels did not do packages with them, they receive
the ancillary benefits of their sponsorship work, regardless. She
said they will actually curate on a corporate level, hotel ticket
packages with all those Mount Pleasant Hotels as well and they
sold out all the packages they put together to their rewards cards
members last year and advertised to over three million people, the
impressions on the Rewards Card site. She said Cambria Hotel is
also a partner and wishes there would be some further
consideration from others to participate.
Ms. Gosnell stated that this committee put their faith in her last
year with their investment and knew that she would find a way to
put more things in Mount Pleasant, so they appreciate that she
returned ATAC’s intentions. She asked the hotel participants if
there was anything further to support the hotel bookings in Mount
Pleasant.
Ms. Zettler asked Ms. Hartman to provide her with some feedback.
Ms. Hartman thanked Ms. Zettler for directly addressing some of
the concerns that members of ATAC had last year. She said they are
always happy to partner, and they do receive residual impacts. She
said it may evolve with the seven additional events added to Mount
Pleasant, but it still seems as if the Town is the residual once
downtown fills up, rather than being in the forefront because of the
nature of the event. She said as more of the events evolve in
Mount Pleasant, it may continue to evolve, and they would then be
happy to offer a discount to post on their website to attempt to
attract more people into Mount Pleasant. She said they still have
not seen that shift.
Ms. Zettler stated that with the committee’s permission, she would
also love to add that The Today’s Show approached Charleston
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Wine & Food for a media partnership this year and this is the first
ever marketing partnership of its kind and this is a national
broadcast opportunity. She said one of the events they will be
focusing their marketing efforts on is actually an excursion that will
involve Nico Romo who is with Nico here in Mount Pleasant.
K. College of Charleston Beach Volleyball Tournament
[No representative present]
L. Cooper River Bridge Run
Irv Batten, Deputy Race Director, stated that we all know the
enormity of the Bridge Run, so the application is the same.
Ms. Gosnell asked if there were any changes to shuttle routes.
Mr. Batten stated that they did condense the two small routes in
Mount Pleasant and are starting from Seacoast Church which has a
much larger parking lot. He said they will also have one at the Town
Centre.
Mr. Batten stated that Julian Smith wanted to apologize for not
attending.
Ms. Gosnell stated that the Committee’s hearts are with him.
M. Sperry Charleston Race Week
Ms. Gosnell stated that the Cultural, Arts and Pride Commission
picks art for Town Hall and there were some fabulous photographs
that will be hung soon that are from Race Week.
Randy Draft, Executive Director of Sperry Charleston Race Week,
and said they are trying to make it Sperry Mount Pleasant Race
Week. He stated that they are challenged logistically on the growth
and are beginning to level out slightly. He said it is logistics getting
250 boats in and out of the water and 85% of their attendees are
from throughout the country and the world. He said they initiated a
“launch and haul” plan themselves last year and it allowed them to
grow 15% from the year before, which is a big number for the size
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of the event that they have. He said because of that initiation, this
year, their registration is up 40% from year to date last year. He
said it is these boats that they needed to get launched and hauled
and is an attribute to that initiative of launching and hauling boats.
He said they are excited about the growth this year and looked to
expanding the event to a week. He said he was in a presentation in
Europe a few months ago and told them that one of the things they
did a number of years ago was consolidate the event to three days.
He said the reason race week has grown nationally so much is
because it is an inexpensive event to attend because of those three
days. He said that this has been their key to success, but now he is
trying to break it because he has more boats that would like to
attend, and he cannot sail them all in the three days that we have.
He said they have looked at expanding it to a week and tried to do
it for this year and could not quite manage the marketing of it. He
said he needs approximately 85 more boats to attend to afford to
do five days. He said the event is so expensive per day. He said they
are going to use the 2019 event to do their research and evaluate
expanding it to a week. He said 2020 will be their 25th anniversary
so it will be a good time to do this. He said he is looking at a
company called Briscoe to manage and measure their actual room
nights. He said because of their partnership with the Charleston
Harbor Resort, they are aware of their numbers there; however, he
has been trying to research the other hotels. He said they will do
blocks at other hotels, but he would be interested in their
comments. He said Briscoe can actually take the list they have to
provide on their website of all the hotels and key in with them and
measure it for them. He said he does not believe they are a broker.
Ms. Hartman said they are definitely going to get some type of
compensation.
Ms. Hartman stated that everyone is aware of this event and the
scope and volume of people who come in for Race Week and in this
instance, it can be tracked, and every hotel can admit to the impact
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the race has. She stated that Mr. Draft began touching upon the
growth of Race Week and trying to add new races but does not
know if this was as much as he was able to share. She said it would
basically be a new race, not an add-on to Race Week.
Mr. Draft said it would be the expansion of Race Week and would
be turning it back into a week as it started 25 years ago. He said it
was a weekend, a Wednesday night and a weekend, back in their
earlier days. He said for 2019 they are in between Easter and the
Bridge Run so they could not have racing on one weekend. He said
the research they do will indicate to them whether the participants
would rather come in and race Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday.
He said they have fleets that are wanting to come in. He said they
have boats forty to thirty-three feet that race offshore at this time.
He said they do not want to race offshore when everyone is having
a great time inshore, and it is a 90-minute commute out to the
ocean course. He said this year, they will likely have one ocean
course and just have them race from the harbor start out into the
ocean, do a course and race back. He said it is all about time. How
efficient can they be with their time racing? He said there are other
classes of boats that would show up in a group of 30 to 40 which
would get his 85 boats much easier than a bunch of individual
boats.
Ms. Hartman said she realizes Mr. Draft has been working on this
for years and if he can make the numbers work and is able to
expand it would double the impact that Race Week has and move it
from a weekend event to a week day impact which is also
beneficial.
Mr. Draft stated that the copy of the ad in the packet was an ad
that went into the top leading sailing magazine in Europe. He said
he was recently invited out to France to speak on Race Week. He
said this is a global event and it is difficult for him to realize that
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this event has gotten to this point, but it is one of the top events in
the world.
Ms. Gosnell asked Mr. Draft what his infrastructure limitations are
at this time, in terms of docks, launch sites or staging.
Mr. Draft said it is a question of how they get boats in and out of
the water. He said Charleston Harbor Resort and Marina has gotten
fuller, so the impact is there. He said they used to provide free
dockage for the first group of boats to register; however, the
demand on the resort is so high that they can no longer offer this.
He said they partnered with one of the yacht clubs as far as docking
some of the boats across the harbor, but the infrastructure is not
big enough to support it. He said he has boatyards telling him that
they are unable to take any additional race week boats launching
and hauling, which is big money for them. He said when the boats
go in those areas to launch, they are selling paint jobs and work
done on the boats while they are there, and they are at capacity.
He said last year, he partnered with the Port Authority, brought a
crane into Columbus Street Terminal himself, got quick cards and
launched boats themselves. He said it is a big task for 300
volunteers running this event. He said this is why the week-long
event makes sense as far as managing.
N. Charleston Tallship Festival
Reg Brown, Executive Director, stated that they would like to
change that name as well, because they like Mount Pleasant. He
said he used to live in Mount Pleasant. From May 16th through May
19th, they will bring together a collection of tall ships for four days
for fun off and on the water. He said the classic charm of Mount
Pleasant will be host to a grand waterfront celebration of the sea.
The event will feature a classic beauty of sailing ships, wooden boat
displays, sail-away rides, maritime art, music, food and much more.
The four-day tall ship festival will feature eight to ten tall ships on
display, a large pirate camp, and children’s play area will be a major
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attraction. He said classic wooden boats will be displayed while live
music is broadcast from their central stage and great food is
supplied by a fleet of local food trucks. Vendors come from all over
the lowcountry to provide a variety of maritime related goods.
Charleston Port Authority is going to join them with putting up a
tent and talking about the history of Charleston Harbor (past,
present and future). He said last year they brought 22,500
attendees to North Charleston and they expect this to increase with
their new location in Mount Pleasant. They are planning on 20,000
to 30,000 and 20% of those attending will come from out-of-town.
He said profits will go towards supporting maritime non-profit
organizations, four of which are right here in the area. He said last
year, they received funding from North Charleston, but will not
receive that funding this year. He said they are now coming to
Mount Pleasant to seek funding.
Ms. Hartman asked if Mr. Brown could show them some
information about their marketing efforts.
Mr. Brown stated that they had mass digital marketing last year,
had over 80,000 email addresses that received their advertising,
they have a sign at the airport, and have a billboard coming into
Town. He said from the previous event to now, he receives five or
six calls a week wanting to know when this event will happen again.
He said these calls come from out-of-town. Although they were in
North Charleston last year, they still sold a number of rooms in
Mount Pleasant hotels. He plans to visit each hotel in Mount
Pleasant to discuss having a blanket deal in order to have everyone
stay in Mount Pleasant.
Ms. Gosnell asked Ms. Craven and Ms. Hartman if this date is
problematic with hotel occupancy.
Ms. Hartman stated that it is not problematic, as it is not a high-
need time for them or any of the areas in Charleston.
Mr. Brown stated that it is between Mother’s Day and Spoleto.
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Ms. Gosnell asked if the timing of the event based on the touring
time of the other ships.
Mr. Brown stated that the ships coming here are going to end up in
the Great Lakes in July. He said many of them travel to the islands
for the winter. As they begin to come back, they are attempting to
get their schedules set so they are able to stop in Mount Pleasant
for four days. He said it used to be three days, but the fourth day is
now Thursday, which will be group day. He said they are
encouraging all the schools, retirement homes and all who have a
bus, to come to see the ships for a special rate on Thursday. He
added that this event is an all-volunteer event.
O. Cry Joy Park: Gardens of Dark and Light
Liz Bizwell, Director of Public Affairs of the Halsey Institute of
Contemporary Art, stated that they are the College of Charleston’s
Contemporary Art Museum. She added that they are non-profit and
non-collecting and the description of the exhibition that is within
the application is a Hallmark of the way they organize
contemporary art. She said they do not have a collection they pull
from but invite artists to come into their space, create something
new for the community and if possible, debut brand new work for
them. She said this is exactly what Jennifer Wen Ma, the artist of
“Cry Joy Park” is going to be doing. She currently has an exhibition
in Beijing that is somewhat along the lines of “Cry Joy Park”. It is
her way of visually working out exactly what she is going to be
doing here. She is doing 18 months of preparation for creating this
brand-new environment within the gallery spaces. She stated that
the funding will go towards the marketing costs of this exhibition.
She said they do receive support from the City of Charleston and
Charleston County for marketing; however, their grant funding is
only for all year round the entire season. She said she is interested
because of the potential impact for the community, the dialogue
that is possible with this exhibition and the themes that she
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explores. She is also capitalizing on the fact that it is happening
during Spoleto. She said the room blocks are also during Memorial
Day weekend, so it is a natural time when people are coming to
Charleston. They want to ensure they are in front of them and do
not get overshadowed by Spoleto.
Ms. Gosnell asked what their geographics are in their marketing
campaign.
Ms. Bizwell stated that it should be included in her packet;
however, most of the funding would pay for national art focused
publications, whether digital or in print and there are some
contemporary art blog spaces that are well respected on a national
level. She stated that the Halsey is very well known outside of
South Carolina. The choice of publications and places to market
were focused on the fact that this is the audience they are seeking,
which are those coming to town looking for something
contemporary, new and new south about Charleston, which is why
they went with a lot of art publications rather than general
magazines or newspapers in larger markets.
Ms. Gosnell asked why Mount Pleasant should fund this project.
Ms. Bizwell stated that they are a first-time applicant and believes
this is a great partnership experiment. She said they advertise
nationally all over, admission is free, so they do not track where
people stay and are not in tune with the tourism in the area in that
sense. She said people ask them where to go for lunch and other
suggestions. She believes that because the exhibition itself is about
community that branching out and getting people to stay in other
places and explore other pieces of the Charleston area, they can
connect their entire stay rather than just downtown Charleston.
Ms. Hartman stated that if they do receive funding for marketing,
do they already have something that they feel is lacking in their
current campaign or would they wait to get the funding to see
where it could best be utilized.
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Ms. Bizwell stated that they have not branched out into is
billboards and radio. She said because of the nature of Spoleto, it is
a destination type of festival, and if people have affordable options
for staying, then perhaps the people from Greenville will come for
more than just a day trip. She said those advertisements are
something she has noticed because their Columbia museum does
billboards here in Charleston. She feels those are effective and
would like to do a similar format with markets that are outside of
the Charleston area. She said they did billboards with two
exhibitions in the past three years and five years ago and they were
both during Spoleto and were effective.
Ms. Hartman stated that typically when funding is provided, there
is usually some reference back to Mount Pleasant and asked if Ms.
Bizwell if she had ideas on how the Town could be included in their
efforts to ensure Mount Pleasant is referenced.
Ms. Bizwell stated that because a lot of the artists’ research is going
to be centered around the plantation development and then grew
up into this baby metropolis, she believes within the history and
context of the work for the artist’s essays and for the articles, there
can be a reference to the development of Mount Pleasant, West
Ashley and Johns Island and how these places have changed and
grown up.
P. Munchkin Radio Plays
Marie Louise Moreto, President of Mount Pleasant Community
Arts Center, stated that they are requesting funding for “Munchkin
Radio Plays”. She stated that these are children’s plays and are new
plays by local playwrights. She said they are going to present them
during Piccolo and are in the process of applying to be an official
Piccolo event. She said this would allow them to utilize the Piccolo
Advertising to promote this event. She said they would like to do
morning events and will be working in conjunction with the Story
Tree Children’s Theatre which has a good reputation for doing
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Children’s Theatre. She said they are also working with the music
department of Christ Church, which is where the plays will be
performed. She said they will be done in a very professional venue.
She said they want to bring people into Mount Pleasant that will be
coming for Piccolo. She said there are not many children’s events
for Piccolo, so this will bring families in. She said they want to keep
ticket prices low, so they are affordable, because they want not just
the tourists, but people in the surrounding communities. She said
because they are morning shows, those visiting from out of town
can then take advantage of all the restaurants in the Town, as well
as shopping at the Town’s local shops.
Ms. Hartman asked about the general ticket price.
Ms. Moreto stated that they only wanted to charge $5 per person,
whether they are 7 years old or 70.
Ms. Hartman asked about the capacity of the venue.
Ms. Moreto stated that the plays will be held at the Christ Church
Parish Hall, which can hold up to 100. She said there will be seats in
the back for the adults, but the children will be sitting on cushions
on the floor.
Ms. Gosnell stated that in their budget, the projected expenditures
are $10,371 and the projected income is $10,500 which is
dependent upon $8,000 in grants. She said when she reviewed the
funding secured to date, she does not see where this project can be
successful without 100% funding from the Town of Mount Pleasant.
Ms. Moreto stated that they are only requesting the Town to
provide 52% funding, because they have other pending funding
sources and will also be asking for sponsorships.
Ms. Gosnell stated that ATAC’s support would be $50 per guest.
Ms. Moreto stated that they would like to do at least three
programs and each program is $3,457. They are asking $6,000 from
the Town which is slightly below the cost of two programs.
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Ms. Hartman asked when they will receive confirmation that they
will be included in Piccolo.
Ms. Moreto stated that the Piccolo application is not due until
December 14th and because they already have a venue secured,
which is the most important aspect, they are confident they will be
accepted. She said that since they are also self-sponsoring, this will
also provide them with more control over the event.
Mr. O’Rourke stated that last year’s presentation was a concept,
but this is narrowed into an actual event. He said the room nights
appear aggressive.
Ms. Moreto stated that people will come for Piccolo and since they
are a new applicant for a new event, it is difficult to calculate what
the room nights will be. She is sure some will come, because it is a
low-cost event, and will be spending their money in Mount
Pleasant. She said they intend to do a survey of people who attend.
She said they feel this will be successful and when they return to
request funding next year, they will have more concrete figures
through this survey.
Ms. Gosnell stated that this is a much more precise presentation.
Ms. Moreto stated that they are learning.
Q. Sweetgrass Cultural Arts Festival
[No representative present]
VI. Adjourn
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 1:23 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Barbara Ashe
November 15, 2018
Agenda
ACCOMMODATIONS TAX ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 12:00pm
Municipal Complex, Committee Meeting Room, 3rd Floor
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Mount Pleasant, SC 29464
AGENDA
I. Approval of the minutes from the March 7 and 8, 2018 meetings
II. Public Comments
III. Election of Accommodations Tax Advisory Committee Chairman
IV. Financial Statement for period ending October 31, 2018
V. FY 19/20 (January – June) Funding Presentations
A. SC Aquarium – Charleston Waterfront
B. USS Yorktown Foundation – Vietnam Photographic Exhibit
C. Charleston Jazz Festival
D. Lowcountry Oyster Festival
E. College of Charleston Softball Program
F. 2019 Southeastern Wildlife Exposition
G. 2019 Charleston Challenge Cup
H. 2019 Charleston Spring Shootout
I. Mount Pleasant Symphony Orchestra
J. Charleston Wine + Food
K. College of Charleston Beach Volleyball Tournament
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L. Cooper River Bridge Run
M. Sperry Charleston Race Week
N. Charleston Tallship Festival
O. Cry Joy Park: Gardens of Dark and Light
P. Munchkin Radio Plays
Q. Sweetgrass Cultural Arts Festival
VI. Adjourn
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