Accommodations Tax Advisory Committee
Regular MeetingMount Pleasant, SC · November 16, 2018
Minutes
ACCOMMODATIONS TAX ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Friday, November 16, 2018 at 12:00pm
Municipal Complex, Committee Meeting Room, 3rd Floor
100 Ann Edwards Lane
Mount Pleasant, SC 29464
MINUTES
PRESENT: Cheryl Craven, Shannon Hartman, Rebecca Gosnell,
Brumby McLeod, and Vishal Patel
ABSENT: Su McManus Frost and Laurie Bixler
ALSO PRESENT: Tom O’Rourke, Council Liaison
STAFF PRESENT: Lauren Sims, Community & Government Affairs Chief
Ms. Gosnell called the meeting to order at 12:06 noon.
I. Public Comments
Ms. Gosnell stated that she would like to ask those present in the
audience to identify themselves and the organization they are
representing.
Charleston Wine and Food
Mount Pleasant Community Arts Center
Ms. Gosnell made a motion to alter the order of the Agenda or review
to allow those present to have their reviews addressed first, which
would be to begin with Charleston Wine and Food, followed by
Munchkin Radio Plays; seconded by Ms. Craven. All present voted in
favor.
II. FY 19/20 (January – June) Group Evaluation
A. Charleston Wine + Food
Accommodations Tax Advisory Committee
November 16, 2018
Page 2 of 12
Ms. Sims asked if the Committee wishes to keep Community Impact
at 8.8%.
Ms. Gosnell responded in the affirmative. She stated that this gives
the event a 98.8% and asked if there were any Committee
members that do not believe they should receive 100% of their
requested funding. She stated that the Committee will consider
granting funding at 100%.
B. Munchkin Radio Plays
Ms. Gosnell stated that the ATAC would like to find a way to
support them and will discuss items of concern in the application
and have a clear understanding of why ATAC selected the funding
amount. She stated that ATAC would like to grant this project
$1,500 which is equal to the ticket sales projected income. The
Committee spoke with others that used Christ Church and there is
no fee for them. She stated that it is possible they may not be able
to have this event at the level they would like this year. Ms. Gosnell
stated that the Committee loved the idea that cultural content is
being created to serve young people in Mount Pleasant and they
are very supportive and enthusiastic. She said the budget provided
relies too heavily on the Town as a funding source versus having
the people who come out and participate pay for their experience.
She said in Mount Pleasant, a $5, $10 or even a $15 fee is not a cost
that is too high to charge for this type of event. She said it would
put them in a price point for other Piccolo events as well. She
stated that ATAC would like her to give this further review. She said
the Committee felt that the hotel projections were aggressive and
unable to demonstrate or prove. The committee felt that the
challenge that this group continues to have is that they are set up
to fund things that bring a lot of heads in beds or impact a lot of
people from a cultural point of view. She said if this event is being
brought to ATAC and it only impacts a few hundred citizens, then it
is very difficult for ATAC to justify, versus events that are impacting
Accommodations Tax Advisory Committee
November 16, 2018
Page 3 of 12
thousands. She said for staff purposes, the Committee is granting
$1,500. Ms. Gosnell stated that if there is anything she is able to do
personally to help them find less expensive resources or a venue
that is conducive to their needs, she would be happy to assist.
Ms. Moreto stated that one of the issues in Mount Pleasant is that
there is no place to perform or exhibit. She stated that they have
been shut out of the school system. She had originally hoped to
work in the schools, but that has been denied.
Ms. Gosnell asked about the libraries.
Ms. Moreto stated that they are not able to charge an admission
fee to the library.
Ms. Gosnell stated that if they did a production in the library and
then came to ATAC and they paid for the ticket costs, which is
essentially what they are doing today, then it would solve this one
issue. She said it is a place that would automatically market for
them. She added that there is a built-in base of parents and
children. No one is trying to move people to a location that they are
unfamiliar with or paying for a location and set up. She said the
marketing makes more sense, because they are already using a
captive audience. She said these are the things that could move
their group towards successful production before they get to a
point where people recognize them and will follow them wherever
they would like to take them.
Ms. Sims asked if the Chair would like to attribute scores for this
event.
Ms. Gosnell responded in the negative.
C. SC Aquarium – Charleston Waterfront
Ms. Gosnell stated that they will not be ranking this submission.
The Committee does not feel it meets the minimum qualifications
and does not draw new visitors to Mount Pleasant. She said it does
Accommodations Tax Advisory Committee
November 16, 2018
Page 4 of 12
not serve as a cultural event and is taking existing visitors and
providing them with another ticket option.
D. USS Yorktown Foundation – Vietnam Photographic Exhibit
Ms. Gosnell stated that there are two programs that the
Committee is being asked to fund and will grade them as a group.
She said there is the pictorial exhibit that will be here from January
through March and is currently in Greenville. She said the other is a
Vietnam Day Symposium that will take place on June 6th. She stated
that they have requested a $4,000 funding request for one and
$3,000 for the other.
E. Charleston Jazz Festival
Ms. Gosnell stated that the Committee’s preliminary discussion was
not to provide funding. She stated that there are no venues in
Mount Pleasant, no ability to demonstrate hotel stays to project an
accurate number or confirm a number.
F. Lowcountry Oyster Festival
Ms. Gosnell stated that there is an error in their application. She
said the points awarded for room nights was an 8, but in the past,
there were 1,700 room nights and feels sure this was an application
error. She said the number should be moved back to 40 for room
nights. Ms. Gosnell stated that she would like to note that the
Committee appreciates the very diverse funding strategies, as they
have a very substantial list of sponsors and have set their ticket
prices to accommodate cost coverage. She said they have also
reached out to Charleston County for ATAC funding.
G. College of Charleston Softball Program
Ms. Gosnell stated that this program has a great deal of high season
dates. Ms. Hartman stated that she appreciates that all the teams
are from out of state; however, she did not feel as if it was true
marketing. Ms. Gosnell stated that all of the marketing goes out of
town and unlike many events, they do not advertise locally. Mr.
Accommodations Tax Advisory Committee
November 16, 2018
Page 5 of 12
McLeod stated that there are a number of various dates. Ms.
Craven stated that this is how many dates these games are played.
H. 2019 Southeastern Wildlife Exposition
Ms. Gosnell stated that SEWE has two projects; there is a $15,000
request for their expo and a $25,000 request for the sculpture
exhibit and will address them one at a time.
Ms. Sims clarified that they were presented together; however,
they are two distinct events.
Ms. Gosnell stated that on the Sculpture Project, this is a joint
effort between the Town of Mount Pleasant and the Wildlife Expo
in partnership with its artists and Brookgreen Gardens to bring
nationally known sculptures into Mount Pleasant.
Ms. Sims stated that on the Sculpture Project, the applicant has
applied under a festival or event. She said it would be up to the
Committee if they wish to change this designation.
Ms. Gosnell stated that she believes that the Town’s Cultural, Arts
and Pride Commission (CAP) will work with them to create an event
around the Town.
Mr. McLeod stated that they are truly doubling down on the
SEWE’s success, therefore, putting this as a cultural arts project and
recognizing it for that value. He said the applicant also made it
seem to be a very short time period, but his understanding is that
these sculptures will be here until someone wishes to remove
them. He said there are some items on the application that he may
have scored differently. He does not believe that piggy-backing this
as an event is the correct way to do this.
Ms. Gosnell agreed and asked if it would be the consensus of the
Committee to grade this as a “cultural event”.
Committee members agreed.
Accommodations Tax Advisory Committee
November 16, 2018
Page 6 of 12
Ms. Gosnell stated that the CAP Commission is working on creating
visual arts in Mount Pleasant. To begin diversifying the way Mount
Pleasant is being promoted, not just as a place for boats and a
destination on the way to the beaches, but to come to the Town for
the sake of “art”. She stated that this event folds into this
campaign.
Ms. Hartman stated that she agrees with the initiative; however, by
the parameters defined by “economic impact”, she does not
believe it is a direct result, although she is agreeable with funding it
at the full amount requested.
Ms. Sims asked if the economic development category will be left
without a score.
Ms. Gosnell stated that it will be discussed when funding is
determined, because she agrees with Ms. Hartman’s point of view
and would like the record to reflect this, so they will understand
that this is an issue they need to work on.
I. 2019 Charleston Challenge Cup
Ms. Gosnell noted that on their marketing, they primarily do digital
marketing to their customer base and are looking at 100,000
impressions primarily out of town.
Mr. McLeod stated that this is also where the parents receive the
scores and schedules of teams playing.
Ms. Gosnell stated that out of 4,800 participants, they will have
approximately half coming from out of town. Their methodology
for reaching that group is through digital marketing.
J. 2019 Charleston Spring Shootout
Ms. Gosnell stated that this is primarily a “heads-in-beds” applicant.
She said they primarily do digital marketing as well.
K. Mount Pleasant Symphony Orchestra
Accommodations Tax Advisory Committee
November 16, 2018
Page 7 of 12
Ms. Gosnell stated that this is a cultural event and does not have a
room night scoring. She stated that this is an event where scoring
will not determine the final outcome. She asked Committee
members if they would consider funding at the full requested
amount when they begin the final tabulations. She stated that the
Committee recognizes that without previous data, they are not able
to provide accurate information; however, will be reviewing ticket
sales and a diversified funding source information in the next
series. She stated that the Committee will view this as an
investment into their launch in Mount Pleasant.
L. College of Charleston Beach Volleyball Tournament
Ms. Gosnell stated that this group did not attend; therefore, no
funding will be provided.
M. Cooper River Bridge Run
Ms. Gosnell stated that all Committee members agreed to potential
funding of 100% of the cap amount of $25,000.
N. Sperry Charleston Race Week
Ms. Gosnell stated that last year, the Committee granted funding of
$15,000 and they are currently requesting $25,000. Ms. Gosnell
stated that $25,000 is the maximum amount allowable, unless
there are extenuating circumstances. She said for example, the
Town invests more funding in the 4th of July application from
Patriots Point Development Authority, because it is a partnership
with the Town. She said if the Town attempted to coordinate this
event solely, the expense would be far greater.
O. Charleston Tallship Festival
Ms. Gosnell stated that this event will be moving from North
Charleston to Mount Pleasant. She was surprised to see their
numbers hold when they moved from downtown Charleston to
North Charleston. She stated that they still drew a number of
attendees. She believes this will have an enormous impact on the
Accommodations Tax Advisory Committee
November 16, 2018
Page 8 of 12
Town of Mount Pleasant, because it will draw as much, if not more
than North Charleston.
P. Cry Joy Park: Gardens of Dark and Light
Ms. Gosnell stated that the Committee has decided that no funding
will be granted. The Committee appreciates their cultural
contributions to the lowcountry; however, the Committee was
unable to find any information in the application or the
presentation that indicates whether this event would generate
tourism in Mount Pleasant.
Q. Munchkin Radio Plays
Ms. Gosnell stated that this was addressed earlier in the agenda.
R. Sweetgrass Cultural Arts Festival
Ms. Gosnell stated that Councilman O’Rourke stated that he would
push forward at the Town level to see if there is another entity to
pick this project up and keep it moving forward. She suggested that
the Committee recommend full funding pending the solution
presented by Town Council to keep the festival in place. She asked
that this be in the form of a motion.
Ms. Hartman moved to fund the full amount of $10,000 for the
Sweetgrass Cultural Arts festival, contingent upon the leadership
and the continued guidance of the festival; seconded by Ms. Craven.
All present voted in favor.
Ms. Gosnell stated that the Committee will now review the scores for
each applicant beginning with the USS Yorktown Foundation –
Vietnam Photographic Exhibit. She stated that they scored 39 out of
100, as they were not considered a Cultural Arts event.
Ms. Sims concurred.
Mr. McLeod stated that he thought there was discussion that this
would be considered a Cultural event.
Accommodations Tax Advisory Committee
November 16, 2018
Page 9 of 12
Ms. Hartman stated that the formula will need to be changed.
Ms. Sims asked if the Committee is considering this a cultural event.
Committee members agreed that it should be considered a cultural
event.
Ms. Gosnell asked Ms. Sims to advise the Cooper River Bridge Run that
$25,000 is the funding maximum.
Ms. Gosnell stated that Charleston Race Week the funding would jump
from $15,000 to $25,000 considering current scoring.
She stated that what is currently being funded at the maximum level
are Charleston Wine and Food, SEWE, Cooper River Bridge Run and
asked if Race Week was at the same level.
Ms. Craven stated that it is between the Lowcountry Oyster Festival
and the $25,000 maximum when you look at the room nights being
generated. She stated that the event is growing and that they want to
make the event extend to an entire week which would increase it
tremendously. She does not believe it has quite the impact that the
Bridge Run and SEWE have at this time.
Ms. Hartman stated that as far as economic impact in Mount Pleasant,
it has more than Charleston Wine and Food has on heads-in-beds and
revenue generator. She said this should be seed funding contingent on
it growing to the full week, because it will double the impact that
Charleston Race Week has. She said they need the funding to get this
message out to the participants in order to make this event even more
successful. She looks at the increase this year based on the
anticipation of this event growing to be a full week event.
Mr. McLeod stated that they want to have a week-long event, but it
will not be this year.
Ms. Hartman stated that they will need to build the marketing for the
week-long event next year. She stated that Randy Draft has been to
France and all over the country attempting to pull this tournament
Accommodations Tax Advisory Committee
November 16, 2018
Page 10 of 12
here, which takes time. She said Mr. Draft is using this year to build it
for a week-long event next year.
Mr. McLeod stated that it is a significant jump.
Mr. Patel stated that comparing to other events that are provided full
maximum funding, he believes it is on par with those events as far as
importance to Mount Pleasant. He said it is difficult to quantify and
compare to something like the Cooper River Bridge Run but believes
that it is justifiable to grant maximum funding based on an event that
brings in more international media members, compared to Bridge
Run, which has economic impact. He stated that it is more of an event
for spectators than it is for participants. He stated that this event has
more diversity in the people that it is attracting. He stated that this is a
signature event for Mount Pleasant.
Ms. Hartman stated that it is one of the premier events and does not
put it on the same scale as the Lowcountry Oyster Roast. She said this
should be in anticipation or support of this event growing so a
precedent is not set.
Ms. Gosnell stated that in their notes, to advise Mr. Draft that the
Town sees this as an investment year and that the Committee would
not anticipate necessarily granting him the $25,000 next year unless
he is able to demonstrate that this event is growing.
Mr. Patel stated that Mr. Draft has historically done so, which is why it
is seen in the numbers he has provided. He said if Mr. Draft is going to
follow his projections for the next five years, this event is going to
continue to get much bigger.
Ms. Hartman stated that Mr. Draft is also looking at major
sponsorships.
Ms. Gosnell stated that Mr. Draft does draw international media into
Mount Pleasant.
After review and discussion, the Committee agreed to recommend to
Council the following funding:
Accommodations Tax Advisory Committee
November 16, 2018
Page 11 of 12
Ms. Gosnell stated that Deputy CFO, Jonathan Edwards assured her
that there will be sufficient funding for the major requests at the next
cycle.
II. Adjourn
There being no further business, meeting adjourned at 1:15 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Barbara Ashe
November 16, 2018
Accommodations Tax Advisory Committee
November 16, 2018
Page 12 of 12
Agenda
ACCOMMODATIONS TAX ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Friday, November 16, 2018 at 12:00pm
Municipal Complex, Committee Meeting Room, 3rd Floor
100 Ann Edwards Lane
Mount Pleasant, SC 29464
AGENDA
I. Public Comments
II. FY 19/20 (January – June) Group Evaluation
A. SC Aquarium – Charleston Waterfront
B. USS Yorktown Foundation – Vietnam Photographic Exhibit
C. Charleston Jazz Festival
D. Lowcountry Oyster Festival
E. College of Charleston Softball Program
F. 2019 Southeastern Wildlife Exposition
G. 2019 Charleston Challenge Cup
H. 2019 Charleston Spring Shootout
I. Mount Pleasant Symphony Orchestra
J. Charleston Wine + Food
K. College of Charleston Beach Volleyball Tournament
L. Cooper River Bridge Run
M. Sperry Charleston Race Week
100 Ann Edwards Lane
Mount Pleasant, South Carolina 29464
tel (843) 884-8517 fax (843) 856-2180
www.tompsc.com
N. Charleston Tallship Festival
O. Cry Joy Park: Gardens of Dark and Light
P. Munchkin Radio Plays
Q. Sweetgrass Cultural Arts Festival
III. Adjourn
Title VI Notice: The Town of Mount Pleasant fully complies with Title VI of
the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Americans with Disabilities Act, and
related statutes and regulations in all programs and activities. Town
meetings are conducted in accessible locations, materials can be provided
in accessible formats, and provided in languages other than English. If you
would like accessibility or language accommodation, please contact the
Title VI Coordinator one week in advance of the meeting, at the Town of
Mount Pleasant at 843-884-8517.
100 Ann Edwards Lane
Mount Pleasant, South Carolina 29464
tel (843) 884-8517 fax (843) 856-2180
www.tompsc.com
Get email alerts for Mount Pleasant
A daily email when new agendas and minutes are posted.