Economic Development Committee
Regular MeetingMount Pleasant, SC · December 4, 2017
Minutes
TOWN OF MOUNT PLEASANT, SOUTH CAROLINA
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE
Monday, December 4, 2017
Municipal Complex, Committee Meeting Room, 3rd Floor
100 Ann Edwards Lane
Mount Pleasant, SC 29464
MINUTES
Members Present: Bob Brimmer, Chairman, Joe Bustos, Kathy Landing,
and Rick Crosby (MPW)
Staff Present: Eric DeMoura, Town Administrator; Amy Livingston,
Business and Tourism Manager
Mr. Brimmer called the meeting to order at 1:54 p.m.
1. Approval of Minutes from the November 6, 2017 meeting
Mr. Bustos moved for approval; seconded by Mr. Crosby. All present voted
in favor.
2. Public Comments
Will Haynie, 316 Mallard Court, thanked members for their service and
said he is looking forward to working with them.
3. Review of Economic Development Strategy
Mr. Brimmer stated that this is an item he asked for because this
Committee of Council is composed of entirely new members. He said his
thoughts were to have Ms. Livingston provide a basic overview of the
Town’s economic development strategy so the Committee is aware of
what the Town has been working on. He said he would also like to
provide the Committee an opportunity to ask questions regarding
whether any adjustments need to be made. He stated that Mr. Bustos, as
the new Planning Committee Chair, thought it may be useful to look at
the Economic Development strategy to see if there are opportunities to
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craft a Comprehensive Plan that will support the Economic Development
strategy.
Ms. Livingston stated that our current Economic Development Strategy
runs from 2013 to 2017 with the idea that instead of crafting a brand new
strategy, that they would first work through the Comprehensive Plan,
since this is the Town’s guiding document, to ensure we are all moving in
the same direction.
She stated that she recently attended training and was challenged to
think where the Town would be in 2030. She said that we have now
shifted into a new economy, and there are a many economists that
believe there will be several changes continuing between now and 2030,
whether they are disruptive technological changes or functional
improvements.
She said that manufacturing is no longer king in economic development;
our economy is driven by knowledge, for which workforce is the prime
resource. She said there is a fundamental change in the workforce being
driven by a demand in these new economy jobs. She said there may be
fewer permanent jobs, and we, as a society, must rethink how we work.
She said the idea of the workday being 9 am – 5 pm was built on the
manufacturing system and may or may not be what is needed today.
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She said the first five items are thought to be traditional economic
development components. She said we are used to the idea of business
attraction, site selection, but we must also keep in mind that the last are
also equally important to economic development.
Ms. Livingston stated that many have their own idea of what economic
development is, but they all trend towards the same concept.
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She stated that Committee will continue to see this idea of quality of life,
quality of place and the betterment of our people. She said that typically
the goal to accomplish economic development is measured by job
creation, job retention and quality of life.
She said if you think about the business community, not every
entrepreneur or business is the same. She stated that we categorize
businesses into big categories; they are typically in these categories
based on the revenue and also the intent of the business.
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She stated that there are an estimated 30 million total businesses in the
United States, and of those, approximately 20 million are micro
businesses, making less than $35,000 in revenue and may be in business
for a few years. She stated that this is where you tend to see women and
minorities primarily. She said there are approximately 9 million small
businesses, and these tend to be lifestyle businesses. She said that
innovators tend to be the tech companies, and venture companies tend
to have IP associated with them, and “looking to take over the world.”
She stated that it is an important best practice that we tailor our
solutions to the business based on who they are and what their intent is.
She said that this is what they have been attempting to do here in Mount
Pleasant—look at the different types of businesses in our community and
figure out how to meet each one where they are. She added that it is
important to have all these types of businesses to create an ecosystem.
She said that it is the small and micro businesses that give the community
its feeling, fiber and what makes a community unique.
She said often we ask what the distinction is between economic
development and business development. She said that many would argue
that business development is one component of economic development.
She thinks of business development as the support services that the
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Town does, such as ribbon cuttings and the small things that are done to
support those businesses. She said that economic development is very
wide reaching, and people tend to think of it as those value-added
companies that bring in net wealth, but there are a number of different
components to this. She said having this strategy, as we do in Mount
Pleasant that address both elements, is important.
She stated there are a number of players involved when discussing
economic development.
She stated that these players range from the federal government who
handles monetary and fiscal policy, down to the state government who is
typically doing a lot of recruitment and incentives. She said you must also
remember the utilities, such as Mount Pleasant Waterworks and other
workforce development organizations, community colleges, etc.
She said looking at the Town’s team, we often work with people at the
State of South Carolina, primarily the Department of Commerce and any
type of large economic development project will have a project manager
who is assigned to that project. She said they are also involved with
Department of Employment and Workforce; when you see large
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announcements in the State, there are often customized training
programs developed for those companies as part of their incentives
package. She stated that the State is very well renowned in the country
for doing this, which is one of the reasons the State has been winning.
She said there is also the Department of Parks, Recreation and Tourism
which is a key player in a state like South Carolina. We would be remiss if
we did not think about the impact to our economy that tourism has and
on our quality of life.
She said looking regionally, who are the other players and how does the
Town fit in. She said the largest regionally would be the Charleston
Regional Development Alliance (CRDA), who is focused primarily on
marketing and covers the tri-county area. She said they market the whole
regional, not just nationally, but internationally and have an international
recruitment team that travels all over. She said they also take a
leadership role in terms of regional strategy. She said the One Region
Strategy, which has been reviewed in the past, is the regional strategy for
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economic development and is cluster based. She said that they, along
with other partners, led that effort. She said that other strategies such as
the Foreign Direction Investment strategy was recently conducted and
they are now determining how to implement this. She said they also work
with the state on the Landing Pad program which is a state initiative that
has been implemented at the regional level, and the Town received the
first two companies that came through that program. She added that
these are companies that have an international footprint and are
expanding into the US for the first time. She said that Golfbreaks may
seem a little odd. She said on they are an ecommerce solution, they are
large in their respective market, have set up an office here and are
expanding their footprint. She said that Fitness First USA, a health food e-
commerce business, has a manufacturing component, and has a flagship
store and corporate headquarters here in the Town. She said the idea is
to bring the ecommerce here and potentially expand out to the
manufacturing. She stated that Charleston County Economic
Development has been working with the Town and one of the most
important things that they do with the Town is working with existing
industry. She said that it is a trend in their field to show the importance
of having a robust existing industry program. She said this means
cataloging all the businesses or types of business that you really want
that are already in your community. She said most job creation is going to
come from companies who are already here. She said it is important that
we track these companies; are they expanding, do they have enough
room to expand at their current site, are they at the end of their lease
and what are the trigger points where they may leave and address those.
She said one thing they did this past year was take a number of
companies that had regional headquarters here and went to the
corporate headquarters and met with them and expressed how much
they appreciated them being in Charleston County. She said they also
work with Charleston County Economic Development in terms of
incentives. She said how the state is set up is typically the county is a lead
in economic development; therefore, if the Town has a project, they
would work with the county through to the state, which is the typical
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protocol. She said they control a large portion of available incentives with
property taxes. She said that some of the announcements that they have
had include MTAG Services and Heatworks, which is in a donut hole of
Charleston County in the Town. She stated that there is also the
Charleston Metro Chamber, the Mount Pleasant Chamber and the Harbor
Entrepreneur Center, who are the players that are helping the Town
support in the other types of economic development that were
mentioned.
She stated that regarding the regional strategy, most have seen the
cluster-based strategy which outlines key target clusters based on what
the numbers of companies/jobs are currently in the market versus what
our regional assets are and where growth can be shown. She said that
she took this and put stars next to those that overlap with the Town’s
strategy, values and assets.
She stated this would include everything in the information technology
area, life sciences, advanced logistics, logistics corporate headquarters
(General Logistics), logistics IT, and then corporate headquarters, which is
not really a cluster, but something that the Town would like to see and
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the Town is very primed for this. She said that you will note that where it
indicates Back Office, when she visited Tampa and met with their
Economic Development group, they originally had a number of large
corporate Fortune 500 companies that were doing back office work, and
slowly over time, they were able to build up to capacity as to where they
are now getting the regional and corporate headquarters. She said seeing
the shift in their economy was intentional. They were able to build up the
workforce.
Mr. Brimmer stated that in reference to the Port, a star was not indicated
on the illustration for some of the other logistics items and asked how
Ms. Livingston sees the Port activity. He said he realizes some are logistics
and maritime freight; however, it is not listed as an obvious focus.
Ms. Livingston said that there are several items showing that are not
starred such as warehousing and storage, maritime freight and cold
storage, which will be discussed shortly in the discussion related to the
challenges. She said the biggest challenge in trying to locate additional
businesses such as these, comes down to the cost of land and then
availability. She said we look at the salaries of industries and try to put
jobs in the communities where people can live and work to lessen
regional transportation issues, those particular industries do not catch
her attention as there is a large focus on high-wage jobs that are not land
intensive.
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She stated that Mount Pleasant is a unique community with many great
assets. She said this definition and mission were developed over time
with citizens and their input, and a great deal of thought and energy went
into this and encompasses quite a bit.
Mr. Brimmer stated that one thing he does not see in this statement is
discussing the long term, as opposed to making sure it is healthy today.
He said there is no focus to ensure it stays vibrant in 10, 20 and 30 years.
Ms. Livingston stated that this was a valid point and stated that she has
copies available of the Town’s strategy, indicating the goals that were
outlined in that strategy. She stated that we want to proceed in the same
direction as our partners, but pulling out those pieces that make sense
for Mount Pleasant.
She said that it is important to support the retention and growth of
existing industries and business, specifically those selling products and
services beyond the region. She said this may be obvious to some, but
the Town looks at them as net generators of income and wealth. She said
if businesses are selling outside of the community, those dollars are still
coming into the Town, which adds to the prosperity of our community.
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She stated that the Town’s strategy can be defined in four different ways.
She stated that some of the projects that have been accomplished; things
that were outlined and of those that have been accomplished, one of the
objectives outlined in the strategy was to discuss creating incentives. She
said that we are one of the few municipalities that have a formal
incentives package and are very proud of it. She stated that they created
during the implementation of this economic development strategy and
also expanded it as well.
She stated that doing a land inventory is ongoing because the dynamic
shifts in the real estate market are constant. She said that one of her
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team members is a commercial real estate broker and therefore, the
Town now has access to the MLS which was not available previously. She
said that supporting the existing businesses has been accomplished with
business outreach meetings, Council and the Mayor going to different
businesses and having roundtable-type meetings to discuss what is or is
not working. She stated that staff will periodically drop in to businesses
to show appreciation for them doing business in the Town, and the
businesses appreciate the one-on-one contact. She said that it has
significant meaning to businesses when Mayor and/or Council attend
their events, listen and show their appreciation to the business owners.
Ms. Landing mentioned an article in the paper regarding Heatworks and
that they would be adding 60 additional employees. She said her
immediate thought was to ensure we keep them here and happy.
Ms. Livingston stated that the typical best practice is for staff to keep in
contact with the business every six months, ask specific questions in
terms of their expansion and what their limitations are, to ensure the
Town does not lose them. She added that keeping them involved in the
community is also a great way to keep them embedded.
Ms. Landing asked if there is a process for her to call on a business.
Ms. Livingston stated that for any major visit, she would suggest reaching
out to her office. She would like to work together with Council to further
develop the business outreach meetings.
Ms. Landing said that being new to Town Council and having read the
paper over the years, asked if there is anything in writing indicating what
the Town has learned in the process, such as losing a Blackbaud or
Benefitfocus to Daniel Island, and what to do better in the future. She
stated that we want to attract new businesses, but also want to keep
those that are here happy.
Ms. Livingston stated that every business case in going to be different,
and there are times that the Town will lose a business and have no
control over it. She said that the Town’s incentives are not just for
businesses who are new to the area, but also for expansions, which is a
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very important item, as some communities are not interested in looking
at this. She said it is much easier to add five positions to a company of 60
than to go out and find a company with 65 jobs, because it uproots
employees who may have families. She said there is a process when
looking at this and communicating more efficiently. She said that staff
attempts to be out in the community; however, if Council members hear
something, her staff would like to be aware because the challenge is that
they currently have 5,700 businesses. She stated that other things
accomplished within the strategy include updates to the zoning code,
developing economic development zoning within the Town and looking
at permitted uses; revising the zoning permitted use table was a major
component. She added that a Retail Market Analysis was accomplished in
2017, and one of the items in the strategy indicated looking at retail use
and what the Town needs and does not currently have. She said that
relative to the film industry, the strategy pointed to looking at incentives
for the film industry. She said in working with them, they found that
incentives were not really needed, but an easy permitting process was
desirable. She said that has been accomplished. She said they also
advertise in the South Carolina Film Guide. She added that the Special
Events office handles the permitting and has been commended on how
easy the permitting process is in the Town.
Mr. DeMoura stated that on the film side, the major incentives come
from the State of South Carolina. He said several years ago, the state
threatened those incentives. He stated that there is always things the
Town is able to do; however, this is the key for the film side.
Mr. Brimmer asked if those incentives are still in place.
Mr. DeMoura stated that much of them still are.
Ms. Livingston stated that it is always important to do an analysis of what
the Town’s strengths and assets are. She said that the Town has a
number of these.
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She stated that the Town’s quality of life is second to none, between the
schools, low crime, weather and the fact that the Town continues to
invest in infrastructure. She said that businesses do want to locate in
communities in which the local government is investing. She stated that
we also have a highly educated citizenry, with low labor costs and
disposable income. She said our other assets include our location, being
on the East Coast, proximity to the beaches and downtown. She said the
Port is definitely an asset to the Town, not only for moving goods, but the
image it displays. She said that there has also been an increasing number
of direct flights at the airport, which is very attractive to businesses.
Mr. Bustos said that it is important to let the public know that Mount
Pleasant has an airport. He said that more corporate aircraft are coming
into Mount Pleasant, as well as UPS, who delivers to Mount Pleasant
twice a week.
Ms. Livingston stated that this has always been one of the selling points,
especially with the Carolina Park property.
Ms. Landing stated that with the tax reform currently in front of
Congress, if there is a large cut in the corporate tax rate, there is strong
opportunity country-wide, as well as in our area to attract more foreign
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businesses. She asked if anyone was thinking about direct flights to
certain cities overseas.
Mr. Bustos stated that while Charleston is an international airport, there
are no direct flights, as this is driven by the carriers and the FAA. He said
that Charleston’s runway is long; however, those decisions are primarily
influenced by the airline carrier. He said that there is not enough market
here to justify an overseas flight.
Ms. Livingston stated that from a visitors’ standpoint, the CVB has been
targeting an increased portion of their budget to international travel
advertising. She stated that if we are able to gain more opportunity to
those areas that do have international flights or prices decrease, this
could also help.
She stated that some of our challenges are land -- the availability of it and
the cost. She said that there is slightly less than 700 acres of available
commercial property that has not been developed. She stated that there
are opportunities in revitalization that is not counted in this. She said that
the availability of commercial office space is a very tight market. She said
we need to have a place to put someone, and when we find a place, it is
expensive in Mount Pleasant. She said it is a very desirable place to be
and can be costly. She stated that she worked very diligently to bring
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Heatworks to the Town, and they landed in Mount Pleasant, but in a
Charleston County donut hole. She said that their key input is water and
have some financial incentives to be within corporate limits, but they are
leasing that facility. She stated that the donut holes in Charleston County
puts a strain on the Town. She said that there is also going to be a bit of a
challenge in our region without a research university, when looking at
software jobs. She said when we are not the Research Triangle Area, and
do not have three or four research universities turning out this specific
skill set, they must be recruited in or the students go away and come
back. She said this is something that was cited as a regional challenge.
She said we do have Jack Russell Software who launched their coding
school here (JRS Coding School) and other opportunities with the College
of Charleston. She said that some of the other opportunities may be as it
relates to perception. She said there were properties that were rezoned
from commercial to residential, and the message that this sends to the
outside business community is that suburbia and not a viable place for
business. She said that there are key opportunities to try and change the
messaging if this is Council’s direction. She said that there is also an
opportunity of innovation districts and a key component of this is
internet infrastructure. She stated that this is a component that has been
discussed at the staff level. She said that we think about the other
infrastructure in the CIP, but also need to think about, when preparing
ourselves for a new economy, is whether we have all those pieces of that
particular infrastructure in place for those businesses to be successful,
too. She said there are countless stories she has heard of challenges to
obtain the type of internet needed on upper King Street. She said that
this is an area of opportunity that the Town could really take on.
She stated that when thinking about the tools to help us with those
challenges, we do have an Economic Development Incentive Grant
Program, and in order to be eligible, you have to substantially add to the
tax base, create clean high-paying jobs, compatible with Mount Pleasant,
both build and naturally, a company that could locate anywhere, but
want to be there, and are minimally dependent on the economy of the
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Town of the Charleston region. She said this means that the company
gets more than 30% of their revenue from outside of the region.
She stated that there is a set amount each year during the budget
process that Council allocates towards this program, and it is a
reimbursement grant. She said that the Town is able to reimburse impact
fees, building permit fees, plan review fees or business license taxes. She
said that how this works is that they apply and staff will review, and then
goes to Council with a recommendation. She said Council then considers
approval and has the latitude as to the percentage of funding. She said
that this grant program allows for reimbursement at CO (certificate of
occupancy).
Mr. Crosby asked about the amount set aside.
Ms. Livingston stated that it has been $100,000 each year.
Mr. Crosby asked if this has been accessed in the past.
Ms. Livingston responded in the affirmative. She said that Jear Logistics is
one and another will announce on December 15th that Council has
approved.
Mr. Crosby asked what the maximum amount per project is allocated.
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Ms. Livingston stated that this would be at Council’s discretion. She said
that the budget will set the maximum amount available for incentives.
She said that the business license tax is the unique area, which at
Council’s discretion, can be carried forward for five years, but it is on a
declining rate. She said that Council could offer to reimburse a business
license tax the first two years up to 100% and after that time, it declines
such as up to 75%, then 50%, then 25% the following three years.
Mr. Brimmer stated that there have been articles regarding the Town’s
increase in impact fees and it is unfortunate that this type of information
was not included in these articles showing that the Town does attempt to
work with businesses. He said that he hopes that future articles will tell
the whole story because they are important and valued by companies.
Ms. Livingston stated that the Town is one of the few municipalities in
the state that has a program like this and can do a better job of getting
this information out.
Mr. Crosby asked if the dental location on Coleman, would this have been
an eligible participant.
Ms. Livingston stated that it would not because the dental office would
acquire their clients locally from the population, so they would not be a
net generator of wealth.
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She reviewed some of the Business Development tools available.
Mr. Bustos stated that one of the issues of economic development is that
the Town rezoned commercial economic development land to residential
and said that it is getting unbalanced. He said that the Town does need
more economic development. He asked if there is a list of economic
development assets in the 700 acres and has this been provided to the
CRDA and to the County’s Economic Development.
Ms. Livingston stated that it has and it is important to note that when we
look at the 700 acres, the largest parcel of this is in Carolina Park. She
said that everything else on the list other than that in Carolina Park, is
very small, made up of one acre or less that are of not much use to the
types of companies targeted by these companies within the economic
development strategy.
Mr. Bustos said that he spoke with people who are engaged in the real
estate community and economic development, and they feel that getting
that list out is very important, so they know what the Town has to offer.
He said that he believes we must also engage the private sector because
there are people who have a deep understanding of economic
development. He said the attraction of larger companies to come here
and have headquarters and bring new money from outside of the region
is very important. He said that we need to have a review of zoning. He
said that this is something that the Comprehensive Plan group needs to
review. He said on the idea of affordable housing, if we create jobs that
are low paying, those individuals cannot afford to live in Mount Pleasant
and it makes the commuting issues worse. He said we need to find
companies that can come into Class A office space, generate less traffic,
pay higher salaries and housing becomes more attainable rather than
trying to lower the cost of housing. He said this is almost impossible with
the price of land in Mount Pleasant. He said that the Town needs to have
a new wave of economic development because it will work for the Town
in reducing traffic and not having people leave the Town, and increase
salaries. He said that the County’s Economic Development Department
needs to be reenergized. He said that the CRDA also needs to be
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reenergized to ensure they are out there doing what they can to find the
companies to come here. Then, we can find a place for them. He said that
this is what needs to be done if we are going to change the ratios of what
we have now to one that is going to be good for the Town.
Ms. Livingston stated that when the Town is looking at the attraction
aspect, we are looking at those things that Mr. Bustos is pointing out, in
order to provide jobs where people are able to afford to live and work
here. She said that we also need to ensure that we are diversifying our
economy. She said that companies are not going to wait for the Town to
find the space for them and are going to want the space to be available
now. She said if companies do not find the space immediately, they are
not going to take a second look. She said that the state obtains these
requests for information from companies who are looking at this state,
which is then filtered down to the County level. She said that the Town
has been included on several of them but are never told why we may be
been eliminated. Generally, the state does not hear this back from the
prospect. She said she suspects that many times it has to do with cost.
Mr. Bustos stated that economic development is very important at this
time. He said we have enough houses and traffic, and now we need to
get those high-paying jobs within the Town. He said with the notion of
hotel districts and trying to get more employees and economic
development companies, the Town needs to look at a transportation
system to move people around. He said he has long been an advocate
that Mount Pleasant should have their own transportation system as
opposed to being a sideline for CARTA. He said that as we continue to
grow, this is going to be very important.
Ms. Landing stated that we as a Town need to identify things earlier,
before they go elsewhere.
Mr. Crosby said to Mr. Bustos’ point, if the Town is going to get serious
about economic development, we need to be more strategic and identify
what an ideal prospect is for the Town. He said we should narrow the list
of companies we would like to pursue to those the Town is able to
accommodate. He would suggest that we have a follow up meeting to do
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more planning and strategize how to go after the market. He said that
Mount Pleasant is not a fit for everyone for a variety of reasons and
believes we need to identify those that the Town would like to go after.
Mr. Brimmer said that there have been a number of presentations for
several years from the CRDA, Charleston Metro Chamber of Commerce
and others, discussing the regional strategy and how we fit into this. He
said one of his priorities is going to be determining what Mount
Pleasant’s place is in that strategy, because he does not think that every
part of the region should take the same role, and defining what the
Town’s role is. He said that being strategic is critical, as well as having the
tools in place, such as the land and the incentives and elevate this. He
said there are too many options for companies to have to go through that
process.
4. Adjourn
There being no further discussion, meeting adjourned at 2:46 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Barbara Ashe
December 4, 2017
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