Historic District Preservation Commission (HDPC)
Regular MeetingMount Pleasant, SC · January 8, 2018
Minutes
OLD VILLAGE HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
MEETING NOTICE
January 8, 2018 at 5:00pm
Town Hall Committee Meeting Room
100 Ann Edwards Lane
Floor 3, Room 3300
******************
NOTE: Items in blue are hyperlinks (some file sizes are large and may take a minute to load).
MINUTES
PRESENT: Joe Keenan, Chair; Leigh Rowe, Vice Chair; Scott
Hirshorn, Heather Wilson and Susan Dickson
STAFF PRESENT: Eric Pohlman, Senior Planner; Joe Juan; Plan
Reviewer
Mr. Keenan called the meeting to order at 5:03 p.m., and reviewed the
meeting procedures with the public.
I. Approval of Minutes - December 11, 2017
Ms. Dickson moved for approval; seconded by Ms. Wilson. All present
voted in favor.
II. Public Comment & General Correspondence
[None]
III. BUSINESS
STAFF REPORT
Ms. Wilson made a motion for consent on items #1, 202 Bank Street; #2,
327 Bennett Street; #3, 135 Toomer Lane, Option B; and #5, 314 Hibben
Street.
Old Village Historic District Commission
January 8, 2018
Page 2 of 18
Mr. Martschink asked if there could be discussion regarding his property,
item #3, 135 Toomer Lane.
Ms. Wilson amended her motion for consent to items #1, 202 Bank Street;
#2, 327 Bennett Street; and #5, 314 Hibben Street; seconded by Ms. Rowe.
All present voted in favor.
1. 202 Bank Street – (Survey 6110) TMS 532-05-00-225 – Final Review
for Alterations to Approved Plans [Consent approval]
2. 327 Bennett Street – (HISTORIC 6127) TMS 5320100027 – Final
Review for Installation of ADA Ramp [Consent approval]
3. 135 Toomer Lane –TMS 517-15-00-064 – Final Review for Alterations
to Approved Plans
Mr. Pohlman reviewed staff comments with the Commission.
Losse Knight, architect, reviewed the original approved site plan
where they had one spot footing at the newel post for the stairs. He
stated that functionally, aligning the door in option A, makes for a
more favorable furniture configuration on the back porch. He stated
that they have established this rhythm of having equal bays with the
three columns coming across the rear. He said that there are not too
many views to the back of the house, so their preference would be to
obtain more usability inside the porch floor plan, given that it is not
highly visible.
Mr. Keenan asked if their preference is Option A over Option B.
Ms. Wilson asked if there has been discussion with the Town’s
arborist, Eddie Bernard.
Mr. Knight stated that they have been attempting to communicate
with Mr. Bernard; however, originally they were approved with having
the one spot pier which is more of a fencepost without rebar and a
small amount of concrete. He said that if Mr. Bernard advises that he
is unable to approve Option A, he said that given the structure of the
remaining posts to support this and the fact that it hangs on the band
Old Village Historic District Commission
January 8, 2018
Page 3 of 18
board of the porch itself, it could potentially be floated and not
encroach into the tree area at all from a structural standpoint, if
necessary.
Ms. Dickson stated that her only concern is the tree and would like to
ensure that the tree is not going to be harmed. She said there were so
many beautiful trees on that lane and many have been lost to
development.
Mr. Knight stated that the nice feature of this landing, is it is an open
air where rain and breezes are able to come through. He said that the
owners wish to maintain and protect the tree and would not propose
this if it were going to be detrimental to the tree.
Mr. Keenan stated that he does not see an issue and agrees with Ms.
Dickson on ensuring the tree is protected; however, it is out of the
purview of the Commission. He said that he does not have an issue
with either option A or B.
Mr. Hirshorn stated that he would defer to Mr. Bernard; however, if
Mr. Bernard is agreeable, he would not have an issue. He said that he
would like to see some type of clarification from Mr. Bernard.
Ms. Wilson made a motion to approve Option A at 135 Toomer Lane,
as submitted, and have Mr. Bernard make the determination on the
tree; seconded by Ms. Dickson. All present voted in favor.
Mr. Martschink asked if he could revert to Option B, if Mr. Eddie
Bernard made the decision not to approve Option A, in order not to
come back before the Commission.
Mr. Pohlman responded in the affirmative and stated that the
property owner would need to re-apply and request approval for
Option B. He said that the property owner may only build what is
approved by the Commission.
Ms. Rowe asked if another motion may be made to approve both
options.
Mr. Pohlman said that he would not recommend it.
Old Village Historic District Commission
January 8, 2018
Page 4 of 18
Mr. Martschink asked if the column spacing could be approved in
order for them to finish the porch.
Ms. Wilson stated that this is part of both Option A and B and they can
finish the porch and come back before the Commission for the stair.
Ms. Wilson amended her motion to approve these items
independently; Option A, porch column spacing, stair alignment and
shutters at 135 Toomer Lane; Ms. Dickson amended her second. All
present voted in favor.
4. 625 Royall Avenue – (Survey 5993) TMS 532-09-00-084 – Conceptual
Comment for Demolition and New Construction.
Mr. Pohlman reviewed staff comments with the Commission.
Phil Clarke, Clarke Design, stated that last month, the main objection
was doing a drive under and bringing the grade up in order to ensure
the ground floor was not too wet. He said as it was compared to the
house next, it was too massive. He said the main comment was to
bring the height down as much as possible, still being above flood. He
said that he has accomplished this. He said that they have brought the
grade up out of flood and raised it slightly around the front and let it
drain off and took away the drive under element and the ADU, and
detached a garage in the back. He said there are dormers, in order to
use the upper floor as storage or a small room; however, it will not be
a finished room. He said that it is a similar architectural style, as most
of the comments last month were favorable with the style, brackets
and the simple coastal farmhouse look. He said by losing the ground
floor space which counted towards the BAR, he was able to increase
the rear porch slightly and the right side elevation which will be seen
across the pond also looks nice. He said the pool is shown for location
only and not planned on at this time.
Ms. Rowe stated that when you look at the garage it makes a
significant difference, because it sets back. She believes it looks great.
Ms. Dickson asked about the square footage.
Old Village Historic District Commission
January 8, 2018
Page 5 of 18
Mr. Clarke stated that the BAR (building area ratio), is 4,975 which is
heated space plus porches. He said that the actual heated space is
3,586. He said the porch in the rear is large and has a nice porch on
the front as well.
Ms. Wilson said that the style is more classic and is appropriate in the
historic district. She said that on the side elevations, the gables are not
complete. She said she would like to see Mr. Clarke follow through
with what has been done on the front, on the side elevations,
especially the left side which is exposed. She said that the gable on the
exposed side needs to have as much integrity as the front of the
house, where there are clean forms and the corners are expressed.
She side on the right side, the gable could be expressed so that there
is a true primary mass to the house, making it stronger. She said that
it is misleading on the front elevation, because with the garage, it
makes it look wider than it really is. She said she appreciates forgoing
the drive under. She said that she really likes the back elevation,
because the forms and gables are knitted together in a more fluid
manner than the front. She said she is not sure if the front porch wraps
around and ties into that piece (mud room).
Mr. Clarke said that he has considered taking the mud room and
sliding it forward and letting the porch wrap around.
Ms. Wilson said that this is what she is referring to. She said since Mr.
Clarke has to submit the garage separately, perhaps take it out of the
house so it does not show so wide. She said that it is a great
improvement.
Mr. Keenan said that he also likes the rear elevation, primarily because
of the porch. He said that his comments last month were to enlarge
the porch slightly.
Mr. Pohlman stated that just prior to final approval, demolition will
need to be approved. He stated that the structure cannot be
demolished until a final COA has been issued.
Old Village Historic District Commission
January 8, 2018
Page 6 of 18
Ms. Wilson moved to propose the demolition at 625 Royall Avenue
based on the structure not being eligible for renovation to current code
and compliance; seconded by Ms. Rowe. All present voted in favor.
5. 314 Hibben Street – (HISTORIC 6214) TMS 517-15-00-012 – Final
Review for Reroofing of Historic Structure. [Consent approval]
6. 200 Queen Street – (Survey 6091) TMS 532-05-00-025 – Conceptual
Review for New Additions
Mr. Pohlman reviewed staff comments with the Commission.
Kenneth and Patricia Spicer, potential homeowners, said that his
architect is not present at this time. He read a letter that his architect
sent to the Commission.
Mr. Hirshorn stated that for a harbor front home, some of the design
details do not mimic some of the historic homes seen in the Old Village
harbor front. He said that he is not referring to the new construction,
but the general detailed themes of windows, rooflines and porches,
which could be better honed to mimic some of the historic homes on
the water front.
Ms. Rowe stated that the proposed additions do not fit the feel of the
harbor front.
Ms. Dickson stated that she would like to see it simplified.
Mr. Spicer said that the lot size is a constraint and their attempt was
to mimic the existing house that is there. He said the floor plan for the
first floor will remain unchanged; however, the second floor is where
the change takes place. He said that the main reason is because they
feel strongly about their grandchildren and their carbon footprint. He
said they both drive electric cars and would like to have solar panels.
He said that he learned from Town staff that the Commission is not
enthusiastic about solar panes and tried to make the roof solar panel
compatible. He said that there is no slope on it, it is flat. He said that
he has done a great deal of research on other sites in Hilton Head,
Kiawah and Isle of Palms, where they have flat solar panels, which are
Old Village Historic District Commission
January 8, 2018
Page 7 of 18
not as efficient. He said they put dormers up to break-up the roofline,
but are still faced with trying to hide the solar panels.
Ms. Wilson asked if it is a hard rule not to allow solar panels.
Mr. Pohlman stated that in the guidelines under Roofs, #7: If solar
panels are desired on a building, they should be placed on a rear
elevation or in a valley area of the roof that is not visible from the
public right of way.
Mr. Spicer stated that this property has 2 ½ views from the public
right of way, depending on how wide the Commission considers
public right of way on the harbor and Queen Street. He said that
there is no rear elevation that is out of the public right of way for this
property.
Mr. Keenan stated that the solar panels are in the middle of the
house on the flat section of the roof, so they will not be visible. He
said there have not been too many applications for solar panels in
the past several years. He said that he echoes Mr. Hirshorn’s
comments, as the whole application is difficult to understand and is
not certain if this is due to the fact that there is an existing home
there already. He said that typically the architects that come before
the Commission display both existing elevations and a proposed
elevations, which is very helpful. He said that it is difficult for him to
decipher what is there and what is being proposed, and has some
concern with the additional height, but primarily, it is the harbor
view.
Mr. Spicer said that the harbor is approximately 800 feet from the
front of the lawn.
Ms. Wilson said that it is important for the Commission to see
existing and proposed elevations on the same page, which helps to
evaluate the impact on the neighborhood. She said this is difficult,
because the neighbor on the right is a large tall house, but Queen
Street is not a large street with very small houses. She said what is
being proposed is too tall for Queen Street, when you consider the
Old Village Historic District Commission
January 8, 2018
Page 8 of 18
streetscape. She said that there are nine foot flat ceilings with a lot
of attic space so more could be done with the existing rooflines,
utilizing dormers or vaulting some of the space. She said that the
height needs to come down. She said that she appreciates the
discussion of a front door; however, it is not really a front that is
addressing the street. She said that the elevation that faces Queen
Street needs to be considered for neighborhood capability. She said
that this is the tallest elevation of all the elevations, because that
ridge is raised the highest. She said it needs to be stepped down
towards Queen Street. She said on many of the old homes, the front
is the harbor. She said that the front door and front porches are all
harbor-side, so they could put a garden entry onto the front porch
on the harbor. She said that she would not go to the expense of a
grand entrance. She suggested spending additional time studying the
elevation along Queen Street. She said where you see the gable that
brings the eave down and looks low on Queen Street although it
rises up higher in the middle. She said the overall flow of the current
house is better than what is being proposed in terms of how it
relates to its neighbors in scale. She added that the homes on Queen
Street are not big, but there is a very large house on either side so
the Commission is sympathetic to this, but are also concerned with
existing streetscapes and neighbors and who is being impacted. She
stated that this is where the existing versus proposed is very
important, so that the Commission is able to understand what the
impact is. She stated that she would rather see a solar panel than a
house get 10 feet taller.
Mr. Spicer said that it would be easier for them, because the
southern exposure is where the solar panels are more efficient.
Mr. Pohlman said that this is a guideline, so it is at the Commission’s
discretion whether they would like to provide some leniency. He said
when discussing with the property owners prior to coming before
the Commission, that they must attempt to abide by the guidelines
first and then request any leniency.
Old Village Historic District Commission
January 8, 2018
Page 9 of 18
Ms. Wilson stated that on the other pitches she would rather see a
solar panel.
Mr. Spicer stated that they researched the solar singles, which are
not commercially available and there is some concern as to how
soon they will be available.
Ms. Wilson stated that she understands why the flat roof helps the
solar panels, but this is causing a host of other issues with the large
flat roof in terms of drainage.
Mr. Spicer said that the builders have mentioned TPO roof
(Thermoplastic Polyolefin) and have guaranteed 25 years.
Ms. Wilson said that she would not encourage this, not just
technically, but aesthetically, as it is not what is typically seen in
combination with pitches. She said if a modern askew were being
presented, this would be one thing; however, she would ask to have
the architect re-study the roof forms. She said that personally, she
would be open to seeing solar panels from the side and rear.
Mr. Spicer asked if this would be on Queen Street and the harbor-
side.
Ms. Dickson said that if the front of the house is declared to be the
harbor-side, then why not put solar panels on the rear of the home.
Mr. Spicer stated that unfortunately, the panels must be south and
west in order for the panels to be effective.
Ms. Wilson said that the second gable that is back, would face that
direction and panels that tilt up could be installed, which would not
be seen from the water, but would be above the primary ridge.
Mr. Spicer said that the efficiencies of solar panels is 18% to 21% and
for their needs, they would need 36 to 38 panels which are
approximately four feet by six feet.
Ms. Wilson suggested geothermal which works great when heating
and cooling the home.
Old Village Historic District Commission
January 8, 2018
Page 10 of 18
Mr. Spicer said that they had geothermal on Sullivan’s Island and
because of the mineral content in the pipes, it was a disaster. He said
it was not just the pipes coming into the house, but the ones in the
ground which must be dug up every three to five years.
Ms. Dickson stated that she has had geothermal in her home for
twelve years and has not had a single issue.
Mr. Spicer asked if it was from a well and if he would be allowed to
put in a well.
Ms. Dickson responded in the affirmative.
Mr. Keenan responded in the affirmative. He said that he believes
the solar panels will be an issue if that many are going to be
required. He said he would advise against the TPO roof, as the
Commission would likely not consider this as it is a commercial
application.
Mr. Spicer stated that they would be completely covered by the
panels in this design.
Mr. Keenan stated that he believes the potential property owners
have some good feedback for their conceptual application.
Ms. Rowe stated that she would likely not support the solar panels if
they were to be seen on the harbor side.
Mr. Hirshorn stated that there would have to be a way for the panels
not to been seen in the right of way.
7. 115 Friend Street – (Survey 6090) TMS 532-05-00-069 – Conceptual
Review for Demolition and New Construction
Mr. Pohlman reviewed staff comments with the Commission.
Alan Smith, 4124 Richmond Street, Arlington VA. He stated that the
house is now under contract, and he will be moving to the area. He
stated that he is an architect still practicing in Virginia only and is not
registered in South Carolina; however, hopes to do work in South
Carolina. He met with staff and put together a conceptual plan. He
Old Village Historic District Commission
January 8, 2018
Page 11 of 18
learned a great deal about trees and porches and the zoning
requirements and what is allowed if requested. He said the current
house is oriented on Friend Street and five feet off of Royall Street at
the upper left corner and not in compliance. He said it is a non-historic
structure and has serious mold and structural issues. He said that he
does not see this as a candidate for renovation. He said he chose to
design a one and a half story cottage home, which honors what is
currently on Friend Street. He said that for aging in place, he wanted
a bedroom on the first floor and did not want a big two-story. He
mentioned that he loves the idea of a detached garage and the house
currently has a detached shed and no garage. He reviewed the current
survey mentioning that along Royall Street there is a significant
amount of pervious concrete apron which continues into the side or
backyard. He said the back corner where the porch is along Royall
Street is five feet off of the lot line currently. He said there is a
retaining wall behind the house due to flooding. He said to the right
of the shed, the grade is three foot higher than it is in the front. He
said that there has been some concern by the neighbors regarding
runoff and in his proposal, he is reviewing ways not to have runoff
from his property. He said the shed in the back is approximately 4 feet
off the back lot line. He said there are also trees on the property that
are critical. He said that there are two trees that are not on his
property and fall under SCDOT. He has engaged an arborist to look at
all the trees on and off-site and the two trees that are not on his
property, but very close, are a hazard according to the arborist. They
are both rotten. He said that the trees on his property; one being 39
inches in diameter, is healthy. He said that he would like to honor the
tree and create a preservation area around it. He said the other tree
on his property is in bad shape, according to the arborist and will likely
require some coordination between the Town arborist and his arborist
to confirm this. He said the grade lines slope to Friend Street and his
goal is to put an attractive home on this lot that is small, honors the
street, provides an answer to the grades, provides a nice rear yard
without harming the trees that are to be saved and hopefully improve
Old Village Historic District Commission
January 8, 2018
Page 12 of 18
the corner. He said that he was advised that he will require three on-
site parking spaces. He has a current curb cut for one and a half cars,
but it very old and he is not sure it is even permitted. He is proposing
a garage, which will be set back 18 feet from the street, which is similar
to the setbacks of the adjacent house. He set it at 18 feet to preserve
some yard and emulate the neighborhood. He said that he would like
to keep 115 Friend Street as the front yard. He would like to have the
house pulled forward, with a small pool which is 6 feet off the property
line to maintain the grade in the back. He said when looking at the
primary elevation, which would have a one and a half story look, front
facing gable, which cues off some of the high pitch gables that
accentuate some of the other houses on the street. He said the
detached garage is in line with the detached garage next door. He said
on the front elevation, the front porch would be approximately two
and a half to three feet at grade, which will allow him to step out one
step in the back with a screened in porch terrace, because there is a
slight grade dropping in the back, with the retaining wall taking up
some of it. He said he has not determined whether the porch in the
back will be screened or not. He said there is another side entrance to
the backyard which is an area for the dog. He said on the Royall Street
entrance, he is proposing a secondary accessory building. He said that
he would like to re-create the existing shed that is currently there,
making it 8’x10’ to park his bicycle and golf cart, as well as store his
garbage and recycling bins. He said the right side elevation will rarely
be seen and said that the fence line is set back almost to the end of
the garage in the back, with an outdoor shower hidden behind it. He
said upstairs in the primary gable, there is an overlook planned, letting
light into the second story with eyebrow sheds that will keep the heat
out. He stated that he would like to turn the concrete section into
gravel where the current shed is located, which will also provide some
privacy in the backyard. He said there is a low wall where the pool is
which will provide low vegetation behind it. He stated that originally
he proposed a large portico, which was set in. He said that he put a
Old Village Historic District Commission
January 8, 2018
Page 13 of 18
full porch on the front that began to influence other things on the
street.
Mr. Hirshorn stated that he is not in favor of the multiple out buildings
and historically, does not believe the homes have multiple accessory
buildings. He believes the proposed home design looks great.
Ms. Rowe stated that this will bring so much to the street and the
corner. She said that she does not have an issue with the two out
buildings because you do not see them at the same time. She said if
you are coming down Royall Street, it will be difficult to see the garage.
Mr. Smith stated that he has set the garage back in order to take
advantage of the same driveway that is there.
Ms. Rowe stated that in this situation, the two out buildings do not
concern her. She believes Mr. Smith has done a great job capturing
the spirit of the village and a smaller house is very appealing.
Ms. Dickson asked if the garage is a two car garage.
Mr. Smith said that it is only a one car garage. He said that it is 12 ½’ x
22’, and the other two required spaces are directly in front of the
garage, which is where the parking is now. He said that he was advised
that he would need an encroachment.
Mr. Pohlman stated that Mr. Smith will be required to apply for an
encroachment with the SCDOT if the street is owned by the State. He
said that if it is owned by the Town, he would need the permit from
the Town.
Mr. Smith stated that he was advised that he would be required to
have three off-site parking spaces. He said that he will have occasional
visitors and golf cart friends.
Ms. Wilson said that she agrees with both Mr. Hirshorn and Ms. Rowe,
as she does not typically support multiple out buildings; however, in
this case, Royall is a busy street and it is a small accessory building and
will provide some protection to the yard.
Old Village Historic District Commission
January 8, 2018
Page 14 of 18
Mr. Smith stated that he will be parking his vehicle away in the garage
for the most part, using his bicycle and golf cart primarily. He said the
reason for the other accessory building is for storage.
Ms. Wilson stated that she thought it was more to protect the pool
and provide privacy.
Mr. Smith stated that there is a small storage shed currently back
there; however, it is not six foot off the property line, but more like
four feet and is caddy-corner.
Ms. Wilson stated that her other comments are regarding the material
list. She said that the list indicates a chimney, but she does not see
one.
Mr. Smith said that it is a board and batten structure, taking on a shed
configuration. He said that it is 16 inches deep with a wood frame, in
between the two windows is a prefabricated gas fireplace inside.
Ms. Wilson said that the Commission has embraced hardy plank and
said that she has issues with the synthetic shake or shingles. She said
that if this is something that Mr. Smith prefers, she would like to see
a sample of the material. She said it indicates cementitious shingles
on the second floor gables and dormers. She stated that hardy
shingles do not particularly look great; however, if Mr. Smith is able to
provide samples or pictures or installation, this would be helpful.
Mr. Smith stated that he has completed this application on projects
he has done and will provide photographs to the Commission
members at the next meeting. He said that he sees corner boards all
over and said that one of the things he has seen here that he likes is
the way the thicker siding is laced so it does not look like hardy, but
wood, so there is no corner board. He said that he would also like to
do this on this house.
Ms. Wilson said that this would look great.
Old Village Historic District Commission
January 8, 2018
Page 15 of 18
Linda Balzac, 422 Hobcaw Drive, stated that it is refreshing to see a
small house being newly constructed. She stated that this is the best
application she has seen.
Sam Lisi, builder, stated that it looks great.
Ashley Woody, 110 Friend Street, which is across the street from Mr.
Smith’s property. She said that she has some concerns, because she
has lived on Friend Street for 22 years and has seen it change
considerably over the years. She said that regarding off street parking,
she believes that including a garage as an off street parking place is
wrong, because it has already happened on this street. She said to her
knowledge, no one parks in the garage and the cars park on the street,
creating a parking issue. She said that 100 Friend Street does not have
any off street parking, which was built before off street parking was
required. She said this family has five vehicles and a golf cart. She said
that an 18 foot driveway is enough to pull one car off and if there are
two vehicles side by side, this will provide two off street parking
places. She said that the request for a decrease of the Royall Avenue
setback should be denied. She realizes that the house is oddly set on
the lot; however, the house was built prior to any paving of the roads
in the Old Village. She said no one should keep a tree that is rotted;
however, doing whatever possible to conserve is a noble cause. She
said that the proposed lot coverage is at 39.2% which is pushing it, just
because 40% is allowed. She said she is learning about what is legal
and what is just. She said the house is attractive.
Ms. Wilson stated that she will defend her opinion on the 18 foot
setback. She said that the tree that is not rotten is the one that Mr.
Smith is looking to preserve. She said that the more off-street parking
Mr. Smith has, the more he will need to pave, which is going to create
worse conditions for Ms. Woody. She stated that Mr. Smith is keeping
quite a generous amount of greenspace in the back to capture the
grade at the rear of his lot. She said allowing for the house to push to
the front corner is helpful for a number of reasons, such as runoff,
trees and massing. She said that the house was there before the
Old Village Historic District Commission
January 8, 2018
Page 16 of 18
streets were paved; however, the Old Village is full of streetscapes
with undulations; therefore, no houses line up. She said that she is in
favor of this house stepping forward and the next one steps back,
which is good for privacy and breezes.
Mr. Keenan suggested pushing the garage back to create more
driveway space.
Ms. Wilson said it would depend on how much further back.
Mr. Keenan said enough to park two cars deep; however, he does not
know what the grade will be.
Mr. Smith stated that the garage is currently 20 feet deep overall.
Mr. Keenan stated that his preference would be to push it back
further.
Mr. Smith stated that he is concerned about pushing it back to the
point where it affects the grade where the tree sits, because he was
cautioned about the tree’s root system, which is why he is pulling the
house as far forward on the corner of Royall Street as possible.
Mr. Keenan said that he is okay with the setback, but agrees with Mr.
Hirshorn about the accessory building on Royall, because it is such a
prominent street that he is uncertain how it will look next to the
house. He said that he would prefer that it not be there and put
fencing; however, it is only his personal preference. He said that he
echoes members’ comments on the cottage style house, which is
refreshing to see. He said that it will be a good addition for the corner.
Ms. Dickson asked if the space between the garage and the street is
long enough to park cars.
Mr. Smith stated that it is at least 10 feet wide from the lot line to the
street; therefore, he has 18 feet plus the 10 feet. He said he would like
to put a lawn in the front area; however, believes that the neighbors
without parking will park on it.
Old Village Historic District Commission
January 8, 2018
Page 17 of 18
Ms. Woody stated that if Mr. Smith is contemplating putting grass in
the area up front, he may want to put up a picket fence to keep people
from parking on the grass.
Mr. Pohlman stated that across the street on Royall is outside the
Commission’s purview and nothing can be put in the right of way other
than the one approved parking pad. He said that the placing of pickets
would be both against Town ordinance, as well as State DOT
regulations.
Mr. Smith stated that he is unclear about demolition; however, is
requesting demolition.
Ms. Wilson asked if the house was below flood.
Mr. Smith stated that the lot is A, E & X.
Ms. Wilson stated that typically they would grant demolition if it is
below flood and cannot be raised or has structural failure or cannot
be renovated. She said that this house does not fit into those
categories, so it would be addressed in the third category which is that
it is being replaced with a home that is more in keeping with the Old
Village. He said that this cannot be granted until final consideration.
Mr. Pohlman said that this would be the most appropriate time, as Mr.
Smith will not be able to demolish until final COA is granted.
Mr. Keenan advised Mr. Smith that he would return next month to be
considered for final approval and demolition would be approved
simultaneously.
Mr. Smith asked about coordination of the trees.
Mr. Pohlman said that it would be coordinated with the Town arborist,
Eddie Bernard.
IV. Staff Approvals
V. Re-adoption of Bylaws
Ms. Wilson made a motion to adopt the bylaws for 2018; seconded by
Ms. Rowe. All present voted in favor.
Old Village Historic District Commission
January 8, 2018
Page 18 of 18
VI. Election of Officers
Mr. Pohlman stated that this would be to vote on a Chair and Co-Chair.
He said that Mr. Keenan’s and Ms. Dickson’s terms will be expiring and
will not be up for re-election. He stated that any appointments made by
Town Council will occur tomorrow night at the Town Council meeting. He
said that the election of a Chair and Co-Chair is a closed secret ballot.
Mr. Pohlman stated that there are 5 votes for Mr. Scott Hirshorn to
become Chairman and 4 votes for Ms. Heather Wilson to become Vice
Chair. He stated that these appointments become effective at the
February OVHDC meeting.
VI. Motion to Adjourn
Ms. Wilson moved to adjourn; seconded by Ms. Dickson.
There being no further business, meeting adjourned at 6:42 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Barbara Ashe
January 8, 2018
Agenda
RESOURCE LINKS
OVHDC Guidelines
OVHD Overlay District Zoning Ordinance
Map of Historic District and Properties
Smartphone/Tablet QR Code link to
agenda located below
OLD VILLAGE HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
MEETING NOTICE
January 8, 2018 at 5:00pm
Town Hall Committee Meeting Room, 3rd Floor
100 Ann Edwards Lane, Mount Pleasant, SC 29464
******************
NOTE: Items in blue are hyperlinks (some file sizes are large and may take a minute to load).
I. Approval of Minutes
December 11, 2017
II. Public Comment & General Correspondence
III. BUSINESS
STAFF REPORT
1. 202 Bank Street – (Survey 6110) TMS 532-05-00-225 – Final Review for Alterations
to Approved Plans
2. 327 Bennett Street – (HISTORIC 6127) TMS 5320100027 – Final Review for
Installation of ADA Ramp
3. 135 Toomer Lane –TMS 517-15-00-064 – Final Review for Alterations to Approved
Plans
4. 625 Royall Avenue – (Survey 5993) TMS 532-09-00-084 – Conceptual Comment for
Demolition and New Construction.
5. 314 Hibben Street – (HISTORIC 6214) TMS 517-15-00-012 – Final Review for
Reroofing of Historic Structure.
6. 200 Queen Street – (Survey 6091) TMS 532-05-00-025 – Conceptual Review for
New Additions
7. 115 Friend Street – (Survey 6090) TMS 532-05-00-069 – Conceptual Review for
Demolition and New Construction
IV. Staff Approvals
V. Re-adoption of Bylaws
VI. Election of Officers
VII. Motion to Adjourn
Title VI Notice: The Town of Mount Pleasant fully complies with Title VI of the Civil
Rights Act of 1964 and related statutes and regulations in all programs and activities.
Town meetings are conducted in accessible locations, materials can be provided in
accessible formats, and provided in languages other than English. The next regularly
scheduled meeting is February 12, 2018 at Town Hall, 100 Ann Edwards Lane. If you
would like accessibility or language accommodation, please contact
the Title VI Coordinator, one week in advance, at the Town of Mount Pleasant at 843-
884-8517.
Get email alerts for Mount Pleasant
A daily email when new agendas and minutes are posted.