Historical Commission
Regular MeetingMount Pleasant, SC · December 14, 2017
Minutes
HISTORICAL COMMISSION MEETING
December 14, 2017
8:00 a.m.
Town Hall
100 Ann Edwards Lane
Committee Room, 3rd Floor
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MINUTES
Members Present: Rick Gutowski, Chairman; Patrick Morrissey, Vice
Chairman; Robert Macdonald, Josh Kelley, Heidi
Schless and Ken Shortridge
Unexcused Absence: Trey Harrell
Staff Present: Chris Luly, Planner
Also Present: Mary Julia Royall, Town Historian and Walter Brown,
Advisor
Mr. Gutowski called the meeting to order at 8:02 a.m.
I. Approval of Minutes
Mr. Macdonald moved for approval; seconded by Mr. Shortridge. All
present voted in favor.
II. Public Comment
John Wright, 145 Rose Lane, said that he is the President of the new
African American Historical Settlement Commission (AAHSC) which was
formed over the last few years. He said there was a need for this
Commission and believes they were 25 years late. He said they currently
have the Cainhoy, Phillips, Scanlonville/Remley’s Point, and the
Snowden communities. He said that they are a 501c3 and have been
appealing to Charleston County, Mount Pleasant Waterworks and the
local government agencies to be recognized. He said that the main
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purpose of forming this commission was to sustain and retain the
African American Settlement communities. He said that they are
dwindling and this commission has plans and a vision on how to work
with the communities. He said recently, they were at Charleston County
regarding an issue with the Sol Legare community and their overlay
district to be approved. He said that Parker’s Ferry is also being
addressed in the next few weeks, so the commission is very actively
involved with Charleston County, as well as the issues here in the Town.
He said they would like to continue to partner with the Historical
Commission, because he believes that together they can be the lead for
some of the issues in the African American Settlement communities. He
said with the support of the Historical Commission, he feels they can
bridge the gap together, going forward. He thanked Mr. Macdonald for
the gathering at his home where the new executive director of the
Gullah Geechee Corridor, Heather Hodges, was present. He said it was a
great opportunity for him to discuss with Ms. Hodges, the vision for this
new commission. He said that Ms. Hodges indicated that there is much
work to be accomplished and the settlement commission would like to
support this. He said regarding the Gullah Geechee Corridor, when he
returned home four years ago after serving in the military, he did not
feel the Gullah Geechee Corridor had much to lend to economic
development or substance; however, he has had several conversations
with Congressman Clyburn about the African American Historical
Settlement Community. Congressman Clyburn stated that one of the
things that would be beneficial to the Gullah Geechee Corridor is a
group such as the AAHSC. He said that the AAHSC is very active and
looks forward to the great work moving forward. He also invited the
Historical Commission members on December 20th at 2:00 p.m., at the
AAHSC headquarters at 440 Venning Street. He said that the National
Preservation Society is coming to the AAHSC headquarters to provide an
update on the Sol Legare Overlay District and other issues. He added
that he would like to offer his assistance with the Black History Month
events in February.
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Mr. Macdonald asked Mr. Wright to email the details regarding the
December 20th meeting to Mr. Luly for distribution to the Historical
Commission members.
Mr. Wright said that he would.
Mr. Shortridge said that he applauds Mr. Wright and as a Historical
Commission, can work together with the AAHSC. He asked if the AAHSC
has bylaws and goals that are published that the Historical Commission
members are able to view, since both Commissions are working
towards the same goals.
Mr. Wright said that they do have bylaws in place and are working
directly with the Coastal Conservation League, who manages the
AAHSC’s account. He said that they do have a vision statement and
bylaws that were created when the Commission was formed.
III. Establishment of 2018 Meeting Schedule
Mr. Luly stated that it is the end of 2017 and the 2018 meeting schedule
needs to be set in order to set meeting space.
Mr. Gutowski asked if this is the second Monday of every month at 8:00
a.m.
Mr. Luly responded in the affirmative.
Mr. Morrissey made a motion that for 2018 that the current meeting
schedule of the second Thursday of each month at 8:00 a.m. be
maintained; seconded by Mr. Macdonald. All present voted in favor.
IV. Staff Update
Mr. Luly stated that he has been reviewing the Historical website,
attempting to make some improvements and found that the Timeline is
still available. He said there is an issue where the Timeline was hosted
from the old website and said that for this reason, the Timeline cannot
be installed on the History page as it was done previously. He said that
he has, instead, put the link on the History Page. He said that this will
link back to the previous page.
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Ms. Schless asked if the previous website will remain active.
Mr. Luly said that he has been advised that it will. He said that the oral
histories that the summer intern, Kate Gallotta, was able to transcribe,
have been put onto the Town “Our History” site. He said that some are
in written and audio formats. He said that he will continue to work on
the website. He added that Michael Robertson will be available to
present at the Senior Center in March, as requested.
Mr. Gutowski reminded Commission members that the February
Historical Commission meeting will take place at Cario Middle School.
Mr. Luly stated that staff is organizing for Black History Month planning.
Mr. Gutowski asked about the rack cards, and said there is a great deal
of artwork that can be interchangeable.
Mr. Brown stated that there is a change to the Black History Month
Schedule. He said that the Claflin University Choir will be kicking off
Black History Month on Saturday, February 3, 2018. He said that he has
already notified Hibben United Methodist Church of the change.
Mr. Luly stated that he will work on the stats for Quick Fact Fridays.
Ms. Schless stated that this would be after December and would be
done at the end of every six months.
Mr. Luly responded in the affirmative.
Mr. Gutowski asked if staff would be doing the rack cards.
Mr. Luly said that it may not look as professional if done in-house.
Mr. Gutowski said that he would like to have them professionally done
and said there should be enough funding available. He would like to
ensure that there are enough to be distributed in time to the hotels and
other areas in Town.
V. Committee Reports
Quick Fact Fridays
Ms. Schless stated that at the last meeting, she distributed a list of
Quick Fact Fridays for 2018 with some possible topics. She said that she
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would like to assign responsibilities for the months in 2018. She said
that since there will be only six Commission members going into 2018
with the resignation of Mr. Josh Kelley, each Commission member will
be assigned two months to develop Quick Fact Fridays.
Ken Shortridge: September, Churches of Mount Pleasant and May, (will
select a topic at a later date).
Robert Macdonald: June, Civil War in Mount Pleasant and October,
Famous Visitors to Mount Pleasant
Rick Gutowski: February, Black History Month and August, (Ms. Schless
will assign a topic)
Ms. Schless said to keep in mind that one week of the Commissioner’s
monthly topics should cover their Committee area.
Mr. Gutowski stated that Mr. Josh Kelley will be resigning, but
requested to remain involved as an advisor.
Patrick Morrissey: April, Town Street Names and July, Maritime History
Ms. Schless stated that she has included a summary of all the topics that
were covered in 2017, so as not to repeat for 2018.
Heidi Schless: January and March, and will take two topics on the list
that have not yet been selected.
Ms. Schless stated that she also asked Mr. Kelley if there was any
progress made on the Communications Plan for the QFF’s that were
discussed at the last meeting on how to raise more awareness of the
QFF’s.
Mr. Kelley said that he will email this information to Ms. Schless.
Historical Markers
Mr. Shortridge said that the missing marker at Hobcaw Shipyard is
currently in place. He said that he has not been able to find the Powder
Magazine marker. He said that the Greenwich Mill marker has not been
found or was stolen.
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Mr. Luly said that this has been missing. He asked where the Powder
Magazine marker was located.
Mr. Shortridge said that it was located in Hobcaw.
Mr. Luly said that Loss Control has been working on the Greenwich Mill
marker.
Mr. Shortridge asked if Town staff goes out periodically to check on the
markers.
Mr. Luly said that they do not. He said that if the Public Services crew
discovers a sign that is knocked over, they will either repair and reinstall
them, or have them repaired elsewhere. He said that no one is actively
verifying that the markers are where they should be.
Mr. Shortridge said that he did find the Moultrie High School marker
and sent pictures to Commission members. He said at the old County
Courthouse on Pitt Street, the time crypt is still there, but hidden
behind a hedge, so it cannot be seen from Pitt Street.
Oral Histories
Mr. Shortridge said that the oral histories that were submitted to Avery
for 2016 and 2017 were not completed and the Town has not paid for
them. He said that he has not been able to communicate with anyone
at Avery, as they are not returning his calls. He said that one of the
individuals he requested to be interviewed is no longer able to be
interviewed. He said that with the elder individuals, the oral histories
must be completed as soon as possible. He said moving forward, if the
Town is not able to utilize Avery for the oral histories, he will attempt to
contact Professor Cary Taylor at the Citadel who is part of the Oral
History Consortium in Charleston, to ask him for some assistance. He
asked if there are people in Town who actually do this that we are able
to work with.
Mr. Brown said that he contacted Deborah Wright, who is the Associate
Director of Avery Institute. He added that she will be retiring. She is
from York, South Carolina and is a curator, historian and is going to stay
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in the Charleston area. He said that the magazine that is published
quarterly, The Avery Messenger, is still going to be done by Ms. Wright
as the editor. He said that there are no outstanding bills with Avery.
Mr. Shortridge said that the Commission has the people to be
interviewed for oral histories; however, we need to find the
interviewer. He said that this is his mission going into 2018.
Ms. Schless asked for the record, the names of the individuals to be
interviewed for the coming year.
Mr. Shortridge mentioned the following:
John Royall, Royall Hardware; Billy Mashce, Postmaster in Mount
Pleasant for many years; Walter Brown; Elizabeth Hamlin McConnell,
daughter-in-law of Mrs. McConnell who was over 100 years old and
passed away last year. If she is unable, her husband, Bubbah McConnell,
who is part of the Hamlin family will do the interview, and also Dallas
Deer, who has been here for many years. He said there are others, as
well.
Mr. Gutowski asked if Emma Williams could be added to the list.
Mr. Shortridge responded in the affirmative.
Mr. Brown said that Emma Williams is a native of Huger, South Carolina
and a graduate of Berkeley County Training School, which was the name
of the black high school throughout South Carolina. He said that she
attended Allen University and ended up in New York. He said she
worked at Chase Bank and then became the paymaster for the New
York Yankees. He said each year during the “Old Timers” baseball game,
they invite Ms. Williams and a guest back to Yankee Stadium. He said
when she returned to Charleston, she began working at the College of
Charleston working in Admissions and Finance and is now retired. He
said that from time to time, she is a visiting editor of the Moultrie News.
He said that she has a wealth of knowledge and is a member of the
Goodwill AME Church.
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Mr. Gutowski said that he met her at the Avery Institute’s annual
meeting and said that she would likely be involved in doing the articles
for Black History Month.
John Wright, stated that he would like for the Commission to consider
an added source for interviews, which are the members of the Laing
Alumni Association. He added that their members are active in the
various communities.
Cresco Award / Comprehensive Plan
Mr. Macdonald stated that he would like to follow up on Mr. Wright’s
comments regarding Heather Hodges and the Gullah Geechee Cultural
Heritage Corridor Commission. He said that he was on the search
committee for the Commission that selected Ms. Hodges, who is an
attorney from Washington, DC, a graduate of American University and
Tulane Law School and is a bright young woman who is now the
Executive Director of the Commission. He said that Mount Pleasant is
the physical heart of the corridor and it was important to introduce Ms.
Hodges to the Commission members. He said the issues being faced by
the settlements in Mount Pleasant are the same being faced by families
on St. Helena, Hilton Head, up towards North Carolina and all the way
to St. Johns River, Florida. He hopes that she will be able to address the
important issues about the communities and the pressure on them and
attempt to develop ways to mitigate what has been happening over the
course of many years. He said that this relates directly to the
development of the Comprehensive Plan for Mount Pleasant going
forward. He said that the Commission members received Mr.
Morrissey’s letter outlining some of the challenges for the development
of the Comprehensive Plan. He said that the African American Historical
Settlement Commission should take the lead. He said that Mr. Rodly
Millett was working on a letter for the AAHSC and this Commission
looks forward to receiving that letter. He said that the Historical
Commission does not want to get out ahead of the AAHSC on
neighborhoods, but instead be helpful and a catalyst to get the common
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objectives advanced. He thanked Mr. Wright for attending this meeting
and keeping the Commission up to date.
Mr. Gutowski asked Mr. Wright if he is the main point of contact for the
African American Historical Settlement Commission.
Mr. Wright said that Rodly Millet is the main contact as he handles
Public Relations. He stated that Mr. Millet is currently working on the
letter which will be forthcoming.
Mr. Gutowski asked if it would be appropriate to have Ms. Hodges
attend the Historical Commission meeting at Cario Middle School in
February and be a speaker.
Mr. Macdonald said that he would ask Ms. Hodges.
Mr. Wright stated that he would like to mention that Ms. Hodges was
also invited to the December 20th meeting with the National Historical
Preservation Society, as well as their December meeting.
Mr. Morrissey asked if there is a time limit for the Cario meeting.
Mr. Gutowski said that he will make it work and will discuss with the
principal of Cario. He said that they are eager to have the Commission
back.
Mr. Morrissey said that Ms. Hodges has a great deal to say and to try
and fit this in with the Commission meeting into one class period may
be challenging.
Mr. Macdonald congratulated Mr. Brown for being the CRESCO honoree
this year. He said he met with Mary Julia Royall earlier in the month and
she provided him with a video done in 1987, “A Journey through Time,
Mount Pleasant’s 150 Anniversary”. He said that it was a forty-five
minute video which was very well done and he had it transferred to a
CD, and mentioned that there was some flaw to the video. He said that
it is a very good presentation. He said that he made a CD for himself and
asked Commission members if they would like a copy.
Mr. Morrissey asked how large the data is on the CD, and asked if this is
something to consider putting on the website.
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Mr. Luly stated that it cannot be larger than the Abby Munro papers,
which are now on the website, which were five or six discs. He said that
he would be happy to upload the disc “A Journey through Time”.
Archive Room
Mr. Macdonald said that when he met with Mary Julia Royall, they
discussed her collection, which contains a wealth of information about
Mount Pleasant. He advised Ms. Royall that he would be happy to
organize her collection, which he believes is an invaluable resource for
Mount Pleasant and find it a proper home in the Town’s History Room.
He said he looks forward to working with Ms. Royall and her daughter
at their convenience, to see how it can be organized in a way that it can
be placed in the Town’s History Room. He said that he mentioned at the
last meeting and previously that Grant Gilmore at the College of
Charleston, has offered to send some of his graduate students to work
on the papers of the professor who did the study of the settlement
communities here in Mount Pleasant and help organize this. He asked
Mr. Luly that when he is available to move the boxes from the Six Mile
location to the History Room, he will contact Mr. Gilmore.
Mr. Luly said that he is available to do so anytime.
Mr. Macdonald suggested sometime in January, 2018 and he would
request that Mr. Gilmore send someone over to assist.
Mr. Luly said that he spoke with the company that he believes came and
scanned the documents. He said that they advised that they only came
in and took a few photographs that they were interested in and said
that there is no digital file of the information.
Mr. Macdonald said he spoke to Mr. Gilmore about this and said that it
is possible that the College of Charleston may be able to simultaneously
scan the information. He asked about the status of the History Room on
the plan that Ms. Carol Poplin provided.
Mr. Luly said that he has not heard where the process is regarding the
ordering of furniture. He said that Ms. Poplin came by and picked up the
quilt and took it to be assessed to see if it can be hung for display. He
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said she came back to the Town with a quote, which was above the
Commission’s budget and sent it to management to determine how to
proceed.
Mr. Macdonald said that there is no sense in moving any materials to
the room until there are file cabinets and drawers.
Mr. Luly said that it is a good idea to move the boxes from the Six Mile
location, as there is no climate control there.
Mr. Gutowski asked about access to the History Room.
Mr. Luly said that only a few individuals have access at this time.
Mr. Brown asked about the Sappho Ferry doors.
Mr. Macdonald said that they were in an area off of Shem Creek and
Lou Edens offered two doors, which Carol Poplin has looked at in terms
of restoration.
Mr. Brown stated that Tillman Brown, who was a member of his church,
often talked about when he was Captain of the Sappho Ferry. He said
that he has located his Captain’s License, which was unusual in those
times, (for an African American) to be a licensed ship Captain. He said
that Mr. Brown’s daughter has his Captain’s license. He said that Mr.
Brown’s grandson, Marion Brown, just took the Bobcats to the playoffs
for the State AA football and it was the first time in 25 years that
Charleston County had a team go that far. He said at Christ Church
approximately two years ago, when Dr. Marlene Seabrook exhibited her
quilts, she passed away; however over the years, she formed a group of
women that are quilters and repair quilts. He said that he is not sure
who Ms. Carol Poplin referred Dr. DuPré’s quilt to for a quote; however,
believes the ladies who do the quilting will repair the quilt for
significantly less than was quoted. He said that this is a source that he is
able to provide the information if the Commission is interested in
pursuing this.
Mr. Morrissey said to follow up on Mr. Brown’s comments, the plan for
the Archive Room, the last draft presented by Ms. Poplin, was to have
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one of each of the Sappho doors mounted on the interior entrance
walls. He said she also believed there would be enough room for an
explanation panel, which would be an ideal place for Mr. Tillman
Brown’s Captain’s license.
Ms. Mary Julia Royall stated that the Charleston Museum has an
ongoing exhibit of quilts. She said the one that just ended last month
was early quilts and now there are geometric quilts. She said that they
are very knowledgeable in restoring, displaying and maintaining quilts.
She asked if this has been pursued.
Mr. Luly said to his knowledge, he does not believe so.
Ms. Royall said it would not be a commercial venture they would be
seeking to generate revenue from, but it is the information they would
be able to provide. She said that the Town paid a tremendous amount
to have Dr. DuPré’s quilt restored. She said that she has lost track of
Trisha Boyd, who did the restoration of Dr. DuPré’s quilt. She said that
Ms. Boyd worked through the museum. Ms. Boyd contacted Ms. Royall
when she was working on the quilt, which exhibited names on it when
shown under a black light. Ms. Royall said that there were various items
she accumulated from Dr. DuPré’s house when it was sold. She said she
salvaged everything she was able, and there was a hand-written note by
Dr. DuPré about the ladies of Mount Pleasant who made the quilt and
presented it to him. She said it was last restored approximately 20 years
ago.
Mr. Gutowski asked Mr. Luly to follow up with both Mr. Brown and Ms.
Royall’s sources.
Mr. Luly responded in the affirmative.
Mr. Morrissey said that when Ms. Poplin was discussing the quilt, she
said that she would work with the Charleston Museum.
Mr. Macdonald said that this was also his recollection.
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Communications
Mr. John Kelley said that there is an application through social media,
called Next Door, and his plan was to attempt to get the Quick Fact
Friday’s out through this application. He said the Town of Mount
Pleasant has recently joined Next Door and Ms. Martine Wolfe-Miller is
coordinating this effort. He said that the QFF’s can be put out on Next
Door, in addition to the Town’s Historical Commission app. He said that
if this cannot be accomplished through the Town’s site, perhaps, a link
could be posted every Friday on Next Door through the Town that
would direct the reader back to the Town’s website. He said that Next
Door reaches a large number of neighborhoods throughout the Town.
Mr. Gutowski said that he did not believe that the Next Door app was
the best source for the QFF.
Mr. Kelley said that Mr. Wright mentioned that he would like to be
involved in Black History Month and since he will be stepping down
from the Commission, he said that the Commission could use some
assistance in advertising. He said he would like to provide Mr. Wright
with a copy of the Black History Month agenda and have Mr. Wright
work with Mr. Rodly Millet to push the information out. He asked Mr.
Luly to provide an electronic copy to him so that he is able to provide it
to the Moultrie News.
Black History Month
Mr. Gutowski said that although Mr. Kelley will be stepping down from
the Commission, he will continue working on the Black History Month
notifications and will be an advisor to the Commission.
Mr. John Wright, stated that as President of the African American
Historical Settlement Commission, Black History Month is very
important to him. He said that they are posting their agenda on their
Facebook page, as well as to communities who are tied to the AAHSC.
He said that they are currently working with Trident Technical College,
Mount Pleasant Campus, to set up their web page and help with IT
related issues. He said that he would be happy to share the information
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on Black History Month on their Facebook page, as well as any of the
other sites. He said that he would like to thank the Commission for
putting the Black History Month event together. He said that he would
also like to suggest that when planning the Black History Month event,
he would like to see the events taken outside of the churches. He said
that churches are not a part of the larger communities. He said that he
would like to provide advice and be able to make it a more fun and
entertaining event, using a public venue. He said he would like to reach
out to Wando High School, as well as Moultrie and Cario Middle
Schools, who should know what Black History Month is all about. He
said that he has attended the events of the past few years and said that
those in attendance are already aware of Black History Month. He feels
it should be focused on the younger audience, because there is no
correlation.
Mr. Kelley asked if there is a timeline on the printing of the rack cards.
Mr. Luly said that he would contact the printing company regarding
scheduling details.
Mr. Gutowski asked if posters can be printed as well.
Mr. Luly asked if he should print the same amount of posters as last
year.
Mr. Gutowski responded in the affirmative, and asked all Commission
members to take rack cards and posters in the January meeting and put
them up around the Town.
Ms. Schless asked if the posters would be done in-house.
Mr. Luly stated that his time to do this is very limited. He suggested
utilizing the company that printed the posters and rack cards two years
ago. He said that he would try to find time to work on printing in-house.
Archives
Mr. Morrissey thanked Mr. Luly for uploading the Abby Munro Papers
onto the website. He said that in reference to Mr. Wright’s earlier
comments regarding Laing Alumni, he will reach out to Pearl Ascue to
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spread the word, as Abby Munro was the second principal of Laing. He
said that there is now a great deal of her correspondence and activities
during her time in Mount Pleasant. He said that the Archive Room has
already been discussed. He said after November’s Commission meeting,
he noticed that some materials were being stored in the Archive Room,
specifically framed items.
Mr. Luly said that there were framed pictures from the previous
building that may have ended up in that room, but is not sure where
they came from. He said one is a plat and another is an old highway
road map. He said that they are both early 20th century.
Mr. Morrissey asked if there was a plan to obtain any input from Ms.
Poplin on the design and ordering of furniture for the Archive Room. He
said when Ms. Poplin met with them in October, she said that she
would present her final design in November; however, it never
happened. He asked if there has been any update.
Mr. Luly said that he understood that she would not be coming back
before the Commission. He added that she took the Commission’s ideas
and incorporated them into her design.
Mr. Morrissey said that he would simply like to know if the plan has
been finalized, if a copy of the plan has been shared, and the status on
whether the furnishings have been ordered.
Mr. Luly said that he will follow up with Ms. Poplin on the furnishings as
well as a finalized floorplan.
Mr. Morrissey asked if Mr. Luly would also request from Ms. Poplin who
she requested to repair Dr. DuPré’s quilt. He said that when looking
online, he noticed that there are tabs for linked forms for gifts to the
Town. He asked if they were older prior forms that were used or are
they the product of the recent legal review that began in October, 2017,
where Legal Counsel was going to come up with a Town-wide gift
program. He said that he did not see this link previously and when
looking at the Abby Munro Papers, he noticed the link for this.
Mr. Luly said that he has not seen or heard about it.
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Mr. Morrissey said that on December 20th, it will be the 180th birthday
of the Town and it will be covered in this week’s Quick Fact Friday.
Mr. Macdonald said that it was his understanding that the Town’s Legal
Counsel was working on the gift policy and procedure. He said it should
ideally be reviewed by the Historical Commission and said if it is on the
website, it would be prudent to know what forms are being displayed.
Ms. Schless said that these forms were on the previous Town website
and said that she will look them over again.
Mr. Morrissey said that he did discuss this with Legal Counsel following
a previous Commission meeting where this was discussed. He said that
he did receive email feedback stating that the Town’s Legal Counsel
were working on a Town-wide gift policy that would not only be limited
to historical items, but uniform to all elements.
Mr. Brown said that it appears that the Commission is missing a
teachable moment, such as the birthday of the Town of Mount
Pleasant. He asked if the Town has any plans to celebrate the 180th
birthday of the Town.
Mr. Luly said that he does not believe so.
Mr. Gutowski said that he recalls bringing the subject up to the Town
and their response was that they were not going to get involved.
Mr. Brown said that the Town is missing a beautiful opportunity with a
new Town Hall, because the ground itself that Town Hall is sitting on is
history.
Mr. Gutowski said that he neglected to mention that Mr. Trey Harrell
was not present and has an unexcused absence.
Mr. Morrissey said that he did the Quick Fact Friday for today, which
talks about the Town’s birthday next Wednesday. He said the picture
that accompanies his QFF, is the 1838 map and the 1837 South Carolina
Ordinance that establishes the Town, and lists a Commission. He said
that all those names are very familiar for anyone who drives around Mt.
Pleasant and those members were commissioned to come up with the
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first plat. He said the plat shown on his QFF is the plat. He said in the
1880’s the Town commissioned a pamphlet of all South Carolina
ordinances affecting Mount Pleasant and the very first entry into that
pamphlet is the ordinance establishing the Town of Mount Pleasant. He
said that there is a link to that for his QFF this Friday, along with the
founding documents.
Mr. Gutowski asked if Mr. Morrissey’s QFF can be made permanent on
the website.
Ms. Schless stated that Mr. Gutowski asked at the last Commission
meeting if all of the QFF’s could be made available permanently on the
website. She said that she will need to coordinate with Mr. Luly to make
the adjustments to the template and address those issues. She asked
Mr. Morrissey if the actual plat in hard copy is still in existence.
Mr. Morrissey said that when researching it, the attributions to those
using it were to the South Carolina Historical Society. He said that he is
assuming that it exists with them.
Ms. Schless asked about obtaining a copy of it to hang in the Archive
Room.
Mr. Morrissey said that he feels strongly about doing this, which is why
he requested the plat console filing cabinet in the archive room.
VI. General Discussion – Items of Interest
Mr. Macdonald said that it is shocking that the Town is ignoring its
birthday. He would like to suggest to the Commission to request a
formal meeting with the new Mayor to explain who the Commission is
and seek his assistance in promoting the purposes of this Commission
and the preservation and enhancement of the history of this Town. He
said that the Commission is not well promoted at all and most of the
citizens are not even aware the Commission exists. He suggested that
Mr. Gutowski, as the chairman, request a formal meeting with the new
Mayor. He recommended that the Chairman of this Commission write a
formal letter to the Mayor, so there is a record.
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Mr. Luly said that he will discuss with the Clerk of Council.
Mr. Morrissey stated that between the November meeting and this
meeting, he forwarded the Commission’s input to the Comprehensive
Plan Commission and it exists in their records. He said that he will send
a copy to the recording secretary to ensure it exists in the Commission’s
records. (Email shown at the end of the minutes)
Mr. Wright suggested the Commission send a letter to both the Post
and Courier and the Moultrie News regarding the 180th birthday of the
Town.
Mr. Morrissey said that while researching material to write his QFF on
the birthday of the Town, he found a write up in the Moultrie News;
however, it was in March of 2017. He said that it would be great for
them to pull that article from their archives and republish again.
Mr. Gutowski asked Mr. Kelley to follow up with the editor of the
Moultrie News, Sully Witte.
Ms. Schless asked how the Communications Committee will be handled
moving forward, since Mr. Kelley is stepping down from the
Commission.
Mr. Gutowski stated that Mr. Kelley will still handle communications for
the Black History Month events; however, the Commission will have
discussions regarding the responsibilities of the Communications
Committee. He said there is a pending application awaiting Town
Council’s approval.
Mr. Kelley stated that he hopes that Town Council will approve the
application at the January Town Council meeting.
Mr. Shortridge said that he was asked where Bowman Road and Stuart
Engals got their names.
Mr. Brown said that his wife, who grew up in Mount Pleasant, advised
him that there was a gentleman by the name of Stuart Engal that had a
big house on the frontage road. He said that his wife did not have any
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additional information, but remembered the house and the gentleman
who lived there.
Ms. Royall stated that Anna Knapp owned the property that the street
goes through; however, she is unable to verify that information.
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Letter to Comprehensive Plan Commission (as per Mr. Morrissey)
November 17, 2017
VIA EMAIL
Liz Boyles
Principal Planner, Town of Mount Pleasant
eboyles@tompsc.com
C. Gregory Dale FAICP
McBride Dale Clarion
gdale@mcbridedale.com
Dear Ms. Boyles and Mr. Dale,
Under town ordnance 13016, the Historical Commission is tasked with
the purpose to preserve, protect and promote the integrity of properties
significant to local history, architecture, archeology, engineering,
economics, transportation and culture. We are also tasked to encourage
preservation efforts in co-ordination with community desires and the
town’s land use comprehensive plan. As I have been selected to compile
our input, please accept the following as a collective current submission
of the town’s Historical Commission to your call for comment on the
Comprehensive Plan review:
--Protection of the Sweetgrass Basket Overlay District:
In June of 2017 the Commission sent a letter to Mayor Page
documenting our June 8 vote to ask that a moratorium on actions related
to zoning matters that impact the Sweetgrass Overlay District be enacted
pending the conclusion of the current Comprehensive Plan review and
revision process. The overlay district was recognized by the town in an
effort to protect its cultural and environmental heritage. The Historical
Commission has received numerous communications from concerned
citizens over the last year alarmed by the issuance of waivers to zoning
restrictions in the district. Our Commission values the intent of the
designation of the overlay district and asks that it be preserved, and its
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status and protections be enhanced in any revisions to the
Comprehensive Plan. Our June letter is attached for reference and
elaboration.
--Development of connecting paths trail and parklands along the Christ
Church Line:
The line cuts across the middle of Mount Pleasant, from Wampancheone
Creek (Boone Hall Creek) to the marsh facing Dewees Inlet at what was
called Fort Palmetto. Boone Hall Plantation contains the
northern/western terminus. The center portion of the line is protected in
part by preservation easements held by the South Carolina Battlefield
Trust, and winds through the parish property of Christ Church, through
the construction site of the Primus neighborhood and then through lands
that will be included within the Town’s new Rifle Range Park. The
developer of the Oyster Point Neighborhood off Rifle Range Road has
already created a trail and park at the southern end of the line. This old
civil war fortification, with the existing partial protections afforded it,
can serve as a foundation for a trail linking the Mount Pleasant icons of
Boone Hall, the Pinckney National Historic site, and the old Christ
Church (before there was a Town of Mount Pleasant, South Carolina
was divided into parishes; the Town’s footprint and the area beyond was
within Christ Church Parish). With the Oyster Point and Primus
developers contributing sections, and the future construction of the Rifle
Range Park, there is potential for a park system that both connects
existing tourist and recreation land use and provides a center of gravity
for the Town away from Charleston Harbor. If bike trials or greenways
are provided along Long Point Road past the plantations and perhaps a
wooden bike/ walking bridge over Wampancheone (Boone Hall Creek),
this trail could connect to Palmetto Islands County Park. An eastern
extension could connect the Laurel Hill County Park. The unconnected
pieces are already in place to create something of a Frederick-Law-
Olmsted-vision, something like Boston’s Emerald Neckless: a park
system that preserves the cultural and environmental heritage of the
Town, provides a buffer around some of its most significant historic
properties, and create a trail system that would become its own
attraction. As the Comprehensive Plan incorporates the often stated
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community desire for pedestrian and bike trails, consideration ought to
be given to pedestrian overpasses over main thoroughfares ( ie:
Highway 17), that would give this park system integrity. Undeveloped
areas of land along the paths should be considered for pocket parks,
passive parks and wooded buffers. An online map of the civil war berm
is available at http://scbattlegroundtrust.org/mountpleasant/ , which can
be linked through the history tab on the Town’s website.
--Protections for older structures and archeological sites:
At one open house held by the Town last year an architecture student
came to the Commission desk and decried the destruction of what she
determined was a Reconstruction era freedman’s cottage at the clear-cut
development of Indigo Square across from Towne Centre. The
Comprehensive Plan should recommend protections for buildings of a
certain age (we propose 75 years, but this can be debated). Possible
mechanisms for such protection would require those seeking demolition
permits to warrant the age of the building and if greater than a certain
age, to commission an archeological survey of the structure for
submission to the Town before any consideration of the destruction
request. Incentives might be considered for restoring or incorporating
portions of older buildings to new uses. As an example, the Commission
is aware that Home Depot is considering use of the stone entry way to
the historic Laing Campus on Hwy 17 in their new construction on that
land. Further, the Commission was made aware that a building at 605
Long Point Road, on the block for redevelopment as commercial office
space, was a segregated school house built by the county school district
in the late 1920s or early 30s. We hoped to begin discussions with
interested parties to either its incorporation on site or relocation. As
part of the assembly of Town Archives for our history room in the new
Town Hall, we have found archeological surveys commissioned by
developers pre-development ( ie: Long Point/ the former Palmetto Grove
Plantation; Hobcaw plantation). These surveys allow an informed
discussion on what is being lost. Such surveys should be required of all
development over a certain size, density or foot print and the resulting
report widely disseminated to interested parties before authorizations for
land clearing, construction or re-zoning. These concerns should be
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addressed in requirements for impact studies in all development above a
determined scope.
--Respect for the integrity of our historic landscape:
Charleston developed as a city state: an urban core with an agricultural
and natural periphery. We should respect that land use by staying a
town and not seeking to be a city. As the Charleston County land use
plan seeks to maintain the character of rural areas, our development in
contact with rural areas should gradually become less dense. We should
not build up to our boundaries. We should respect existing designations
of “scenic highways” (ie Long Point Road) and maintain tree canopies
where they exist. View easements should be considered.
Many of these suggestions are broad, but appropriate for the initial
phase of the comprehensive plan review. We hope that the Commission
can remain engaged in the process as specific recommendations are
advance. Please contact me at your convenience with any questions or
requests.
With kindest regards,
Patrick Morrissey
Vice Chair, Mount Pleasant Historical Commission
VII. Adjourn
Mr. Macdonald moved to adjourn; seconded by Mr. Kelley. All present
voted in favor.
There being no further business, meeting adjourned at 9:18 a.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Barbara Ashe
December 14, 2017
Agenda
HISTORICAL COMMISSION MEETING
December 14, 2017
8:00 a.m.
Town Hall
100 Ann Edwards Lane
Committee Room, 3rd Floor
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AGENDA
I. Approval of Minutes
II. Public Comment
III. Establishment of 2018 Meeting Schedule
IV. Staff Update
V. Committee Reports
VI. General Discussion – Items of Interest
VII. Adjourn
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