Planning Commission
Regular MeetingMount Pleasant, SC · June 27, 2017
Minutes
TOWN OF MOUNT PLEASANT, SOUTH CAROLINA
SPECIAL PLANNING COMMISSION
JUNE 27, 2017
MINUTES
Present: Howard Chapman, Chair, Rodly Millet, Kathy Smith, DeAudre Gregg,
Alys Campaigne.
Absent: Roy Neal, John McNeill, Tripp Cuttino, Joseph Wren.
Staff: Eric DeMoura, Christiane Farrell, Kent Prause, Liz Boyles, Michele
Canon, Lynnette Lynes
Mr. Chapman called the meeting to order at 10:04 am.
1. Correspondence and Public Comments
Mr. Rick Gutowski, chair of Historical Commission, stated that the Commission
voted to ask Town Council and the Planning Commission to defer any approvals for
new projects in historical neighborhoods particularly those in the Sweetgrass
Basket Overlay District until after the update of the Comprehensive Plan has been
completed.
2. New Business
A. Discussion and recommendation to Planning Committee and Town Council
regarding the composition of 2018 Comprehensive Plan Forum as well as
criteria for consideration for appointments.
Ms. Boyles introduced herself and stated that a consultant has been hired to
work with staff and the Commission in updating the Comprehensive Plan. She
stated that the consultant recommended establishing a planning forum made
up of stakeholders. She suggested that the Commission consider the different
interests that should be included in the forum for consideration (Attachment 1).
Ms. Campaigne asked if the Commission would be included in all aspects of the
Comprehensive Plan update. Ms. Boyles answered in the affirmative and stated
that the list was a suggestion on which groups could be included in the forum.
She stated that the Commission would be receiving all information.
Ms. Smith suggested that if BCDCOG is included in the forum, would it necessary
to include a representative from Berkeley County and Charleston County. Ms.
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Boyles answered that BCDCOG and CHATS are different entities with different
focuses. She stated that it could be beneficial to have a representative from
BCDCOG, CHATS, and from Berkeley and Charleston Counties because of having
a different focus.
Mr. Chapman agreed that there are different areas of focus. He suggested that
having representation from Berkeley and Charleston Counties would be
beneficial. He suggested that there be one representative from those entities.
He suggested that having a representative from the City of Charleston would be
beneficial as well. He also suggested that it makes sense to appoint one or two
members of the Commission to be included on the forum.
Mr. Millet agreed that there should be representative from Berkeley,
Charleston, and BCDCOG. He also suggested that a representative from CARTA
should be considered as well. He agreed that there should be a Planning
Commission representative as well. He stated that he agrees with the list
suggested by staff. He asked about advocacy groups. Ms. Boyles suggested that
specific advocacy groups should be recommended.
Ms. Campaigne suggested that some individuals could represent multiple
interests and agencies. She suggested that for transportation and land use
interests that a group that can provide more vision such as Charleston Moves
be considered. She stated that East Cooper Land Trust is another agency that
should be considered. She also suggested that a representative from CAGE or
someone representing the interests of established historic areas of Mount
Pleasant should be included as well. She suggested that stormwater should be
another interest as well and someone with that expertise should be included.
Mr. Millet stated that there is a new organization African American Settlement
Community Historic Commission that could be beneficial as well.
Ms. Gregg suggested that county economic development should be another
consideration in looking at areas where low impact industry and economic
development can be located. She suggested that Habitat for Humanity is
another advocacy group that should be considered. Meals on Wheels and ECCO
can be considered as well. She stated that in considering town residents and
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businesses, there should be a balance of representation from all areas of the
Town.
Mr. Millet asked how many people were included in the last forum. Ms. Boyles
answered that there were approximately 30 individuals. Mr. Millet asked if the
regional or local Chamber of Commerce should be included. Mr. Chapman
suggested that it should be a regional representation.
Ms. Campaigne suggested that a representative from the hospital/medical,
tourism, hotels, restaurants, and schools might not be as necessary as this is
information that can be readily accessed if needed.
Ms. Smith suggested that a representative from the school district would be
necessary and beneficial.
Mr. Millet agreed that a rep from schools would be important.
Ms. Farrell suggested that there could be ex-officio members, particularly for
governmental or quasi- governmental agencies, that would not be voting
members, but appointed to attend the meetings as a resource.
Mr. Chapman suggested that the Convention Visitors Bureau could be a
representation for tourism. He suggested that hotel, restaurants, etc. would fall
under business and retail. He suggested that developers and contractors should
be grouped into one entity. He suggested that engineering and architectural
firms should be included as they attend every meeting and can augment staff
with vital information across multiple categories. He agreed with Ms. Farrell
and staff that some of the quasi-governmental or governmental organizations
could be ex-officio members.
Ms. Smith agreed with Mr. Chapman and suggested that this should be the case
for representatives from the City of Charleston, Charleston County, etc.
Ms. Campaigne agreed with Mr. Chapman on the engineering and architectural
firms. She also suggested that recreation activities involve increased traffic and
trips generated and suggested that someone to represent this aspect should be
considered.
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Mr. Millet suggested that someone from ULI would be beneficial and should be
utilized as a resource in going forward with the Comprehensive Plan update.
Ms. Boyles stated that there is information that needs to be provided to the
forum and would be outside of the forum representatives. She stated that this
is one reason for hiring a consultant as they would be able to “tap in” to those
various experts and bring that information to the forum.
Ms. Gregg asked how transportation representation would be handled—as ex-
officio or as a forum representative. She questioned whether there should be a
specific representative should be appointed. Ms. Boyles answered that
transportation is an important component of the Comprehensive Plan and is
important in all different categories within the Comprehensive Plan.
Ms. Campaigne suggested that the transportation discussion should include
someone with that vision to bring recommendations to the table. Ms. Smith
agreed.
Mr. Chapman suggested that the Town resident representatives could be
divided into different areas of the Town and would be beneficial to ensure that
there is a variety of interests throughout the different areas of the Town are
represented. He also suggested that some of the residents are also
professionals and could provide representation for other areas. The
Commission agreed.
Ms. Gregg agreed and suggested that those unincorporated areas within the
planning area such as Hamlin, Snowden, etc. should be included as well.
Ms. Smith agreed and stated that the Comprehensive Plan is the residents’ plan
and they should feel that they have a say in how it is developed.
Ms. Campaigne asked what the outcome of this meeting should be. Ms. Boyles
answered that the desire of staff would be to have a clear understanding of
those agencies that should be represented so that the list can be forwarded to
Town Council for consideration when appointing the planning forum
representatives.
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Ms. Gregg asked how the representatives would be selected. Ms. Farrell
answered the Commission should provide as much clarification to Town Council
as possible. She stated that once the framework is determined, it will be
provided to the Planning Committee at their next meeting and then Town
Council so that they can start looking at specific individuals for appointment.
Ms. Smith moved to recommend to Town Council to consider the following when
establishing the Comprehensive Plan forum:
All government representatives should serve as ex-officio, non-voting
members with no restriction on the number;
limit members of the forum to those residing in the Town of Mount
Pleasant planning area;
there should be resident representation from all areas of the Town of
Mount Pleasant, including but not limited to the Old Village, Snowden,
Sweetgrass Basket Overlay District area, Hamlin, etc.
voting members be limited to 20;
appointments should ensure geographic diversity;
appointments should ensure economic diversity with representation from
every economic sector.
Ms. Gregg seconded the motion.
Mr. Millet suggested that a broader number should be considered.
Mr. Millet moved to amend the motion to change the number of voting members
to be no less than 20 and no more than 30. Ms. Smith seconded the amendment.
Mr. Chapman suggested that a specific number of seats should not be suggested
to provide more flexibility.
Ms. Campaigne stated that the main motion includes a fix number of seats.
Mr. Chapman called for a vote on the amendment. Amendment failed on a 1 to
4 vote with Mr. Millet in favor; Ms. Campaigne, Ms. Gregg, Mr. Chapman, and
Ms. Smith opposed.
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Ms. Smith moved to amend the motion to remove the number of seats, with
voting member to be determined by Town Council to ensure adequate
representation. Mr. Millet seconded the amendment.
Ms. Gregg asked if it should be better clarified. Ms. Boyles suggested that it
might be beneficial. Mr. Chapman suggested that Town Council should have the
final decision on the number of members of the forum.
Ms. Gregg moved to amend the amendment to have the voting members of
adequate size. Amendment failed due to the lack of a second.
Mr. Chapman called for a vote on the amendment. Amendment passed on a 4
to 1 vote with Ms. Campaigne, Mr. Chapman, Ms. Smith, and Mr. Millet in favor;
Ms. Gregg opposed.
Ms. Gregg moved to amend the motion to include that the number of seats for
the forum be a workable size. Ms. Campaigne seconded the motion.
Mr. Millet suggested that “a workable size” is subjective and that the
amendment is not needed as with the experience of Town Council, they would
be able to make a reasonable determination on the number of seats.
Mr. Chapman called for a vote on the amendment. Amendment failed on a 1 to
4 vote with Ms. Gregg in favor; Ms. Campaigne, Mr. Chapman, Ms. Smith, and
Mr. Millet opposed.
Ms. Campaigne moved to amend the motion to recommend that the members
appointed should include those with a demonstrated commitment to or interest
in livability, mobility and resilience. Mr. Millet seconded the amendment.
Ms. Smith agreed that this should be included with the recommendation.
Ms. Gregg asked for clarification on what is meant by resilience. Ms. Campaigne
answered that it is resilience in preparedness for emergency events, economic
development, etc.
Mr. Chapman called for a vote on the amendment. All in favor.
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Ms. Gregg asked if further clarification is needed regarding grouping some of
the agencies together. Mr. Chapman answered that the government agencies
are included as ex-officio members. Ms. Boyles suggested that more specific
entities to be included as ex-officio members should be considered in a separate
motion.
Ms. Farrell suggested that clarification on Boards and Commission members
should be provided.
Mr. Chapman called for a vote on the motion as amended. All in favor.
Ms. Campaigne suggested that some of the Boards and Commission member
seats might not necessarily need to be voting members. She suggested that
they might not need to be in attendance at all of the meetings, particularly with
the Planning Commission that will be receiving information from the forum.
Mr. Millet suggested that more discussion on what Boards and Commissions
should be included for consideration. He asked if someone is appointed, would
they vote as a representative of that particular Board and Commission or as an
individual. Ms. Farrell answered that it would be a vote from that the individual
that would have a particular expertise.
Ms. Gregg suggested that some Boards and Commissions should be included in
the process.
Ms. Farrell clarified that staff’s intent on inclusion of the Boards and
Commissions was to provide continuity with the process, particularly with
having a Planning Commission representative. She stated that the Historical
Commission has a role particularly with the cultural element aspect of the
Comprehensive Plan.
Mr. Millet suggested that they have covered the recommendations from staff.
Ms. Smith suggested that the voting members should be left to Town Council.
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Ms. Campaigne suggested that it is not necessary to specify members from the
Boards and Commissions. She suggested that the seats should not be
specifically filled with Boards and Commission members, but representatives
from residents.
Ms. Gregg suggested that the discussion on what entities and groups to be
included should be provided to the Committee as recommendations. Ms.
Boyles asked for clarification and if there should be some specific
recommendations on ex-officio members. Mr. Chapman reviewed the motion
with the Commission. He stated that their recommendation is not exclusive and
would be sufficient direction to the Planning Committee and Town Council.
Ms. Boyles asked for clarification on the ex-officio members.
Mr. Millet suggested that those entities and organizations previously mentioned
should be included in the list such as CARTA, Chamber of Commerce, Habitat for
Humanity, etc. Ms. Boyles suggested that advocacy groups would not be an ex-
officio member.
Ms. Smith suggested that the motion should stand.
Mr. Millet asked if advocacy entities would fall into the voting member group.
Ms. Boyles answered in the affirmative.
Ms. Campaigne suggested that Ms. Gregg’s recommendation on having
someone from economic development should be included.
Ms. Campaigne moved to recommend to Town Council that at least one member
of the forum be appointed to represent ages 21-35. Ms. Smith seconded the
motion.
Ms. Smith asked if age diversity should be included as opposed to a specific age
group. Ms. Campaigne answered that her motion was for a specific age group
as this range is typically not represented.
Ms. Gregg moved to amend the motion to include representation for ages 18-
35. Amendment failed due to the lack of a second.
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Ms. Smith suggested that this would be too specific and would mean that other
age groups should be specified. She stated that she is not supportive of the
motion.
Mr. Millet noted that age diversity was not part of the original motion and
suggested that this should be included as part of the recommendation.
Ms. Campaigne suggested that it is often hard to fill this particular sector of
representation.
Mr. Chapman called for a vote on the motion. All in favor.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 11:40 am.
Submitted by,
L. Lynes
SpPlanComsn06272017
Attachment 1: June 27, 2017
Special Planning Commission
Meeting Minutes
2018 Comprehensive Plan – Plan Forum Membership and Criteria
As part of the 2017-2018 comprehensive planning process, the Town’s consultants have recommended
the creation of a “Plan Forum” - a group of stakeholders who will participate in the technical
development of the Plan, as well as serve as it’s champions through the approval process, and,
hopefully, beyond. This group will serve as a sounding board and will meet about 10 times through the
development of the Plan (starting in September) to provide input and feedback to the consultants.
The anticipated size of the Plan Forum would be between 20-30 members whose selection should be
based upon their interest in creating and maintaining a healthy, viable, thriving Mount Pleasant
Community. The participants should represent diverse interests linked to the required elements of the
Plan (Population, Economic Development, Natural Resources, Cultural Resources, Community Facilities,
Housing, Land Use, Transportation, and Priority Investment). While Town Council will appoint the
individuals to sit on the Forum, the expectation is that the Planning Commission will provide guidance
in the form of a “seating plan” for which entities and interests should be represented.
Groups that could be considered for membership might include:
Planning Commission
Historical Commission
Other Town Boards or Commissions
Charleston County Parks and Recreation
Charleston County School District
Mount Pleasant Waterworks
SCANA
Charleston County
Berkeley County
US Forest Service/DHEC-OCRM/similar agency
SC Ports Authority
BCDCOG/CHATS
Town Residents
Planning Area Residents
Realtors/Developers/Contractors
Tourism/Hotels/Restaurants
Hospitals/Medical
Business/Retail – large and/or small business owners
Tech/Manufacturing
Fishing Industry
Agricultural Interests
Advocacy Groups
Higher Education
6/19/17
Also, as part of their deliberation, the Planning Commission could consider recommending to Council
conditions for the Forum, such as:
20-30 members total,
a preference for Mount Pleasant residents to fill any seats possible,
neighborhood/age/area of town requirements for residents, or
members from other governmental/quasi-governmental agencies might be considered ex-
officio members.
Upon deciding upon the composition of the Plan Forum, and any recommendations pertaining to its
make-up, the Planning Commission will send the outline to Town Council for them to select individuals
to fill the various seats. The hope is that Council will be able to fill the seats by August, so that the Plan
Forum will be in place for their first meeting in September.
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