Water Supply and Resources Committee
Regular MeetingMount Pleasant, SC · June 29, 2017
Minutes
TOWN OF MOUNT PLEASANT, SOUTH CAROLINA
WATER SUPPLY COMMITTEE
Thursday, June 29, 2017
(July Committee Meeting)
Municipal Complex, Building A, Public Meeting Room 1
100 Ann Edwards Lane
Mount Pleasant, SC 29464
Minutes
Members Present: Mark Smith, Chair, Gary Santos and Joe Bustos
Staff: Eric DeMoura, Town Administrator
Also Present: Clay Duffie, General Manager, Mount Pleasant
Waterworks; Nicole Bates, Customer
Communications Manager; Dionna Ebeling,
Community Engagement & Communications Director
Mr. Smith called the meeting to order at 10:10 a.m.
1. Approval of Minutes from the June 5, 2017 meeting
Mr. Santos moved for approval; seconded by Mr. Bustos. All present voted
in favor.
2. Public Comments
3. Shem Creek water quality discussion
Mr. Smith mentioned that there have been some water quality issues
that have been long standing that the Town would like to continue to
discuss ways to improve water quality, not only in Shem Creek, but
around the State. He stated that he would be remiss not to mention the
most recent discussion within the Town regarding the quality of water as
it relates to some very legitimate concerns from mothers who have
children that have had some cancer issues. He stated that we will briefly
discuss those issues as well, as these are important matters to all.
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Mr. Duffie stated that he would first like to announce that MPW was just
recognized as being one of the best places to work in South Carolina for
the second year in a row. He recognized John Burn and Diane Lauritsen,
both MPW Commission members.
Mr. Duffie continued and stated that most have seen David Slade’s (Post
& Courier) article regarding the creeks and rivers posing health threats
following rainfall and it encouraged him to circle back with water supply
and where MPW is and keep this item as a forefront of their strategies.
He stated that in the report there was interesting information. He said
that Waterkeepers, the Town of Mount Pleasant and MPW are
cooperatively working together doing sampling in Shem Creek. He stated
that three samples have been taken. MPW has run one of them, Trident
Labs have run one and Waterkeepers has also had one done. He stated
that Water Keepers samples the water every Wednesday. He stated that
water quality standards are approximately 104 bacteria colonies per 100
milliliters and on June 14th, there was no rainfall and Shem Creek boat
landing at Mill Street and the sample results were well below the water
quality standard. He stated that the water quality was very good that day.
However, a week later, following a half-inch rainfall, Shem Creek Boat
Landing exceeded the maximum level by nearly 4,000 bacteria colonies.
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He stated that it is obvious that rainfall does spike bacterial count within
Shem Creek and lack of rainfall, the water quality is good.
Mr. Duffie stated that the good news about what Andrew Wunderly is
doing with Waterkeepers is they post this information every Friday on
their website.
Mr. Santos stated that it appears that it is runoff that is causing the
bacteria, not the septic tanks.
Mr. Duffie stated that it does both. He stated that the source of pollution
is multi-dimensional and more in-depth studies with DNA are being done
to determine whether it is animal, human, bacteria, etc. He stated that
Ms. Repik in Stormwater will be providing more information next month
as the report becomes more finalized. He stated that there is more
information coming on this. He stated that the rainfall brings all the
bacteria to the Creek; however, it comes from multiple sources
He stated that there were discussions about providing wastewater
service within the Shem Creek watershed. He stated that all the red dots
and red spaces shown on the map are properties without wastewater
service. He stated that they are either undeveloped or on septic systems.
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He stated that the next illustration indicates the stormwater outfalls for
the Town, which is where the stormwater pipes empty into the Shem
Creek area. He stated that the yellow line is the ridge line that they refer
to as the watershed. He stated that when it rains and all the water that
hits the ground within the yellow line flows into one of these outfalls into
Shem Creek.
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Mr. Duffie stated that MPW previously presented the program they
developed in setting priorities for removing septic tanks from the system.
He stated that this was mentioned in David Slade’s article in the Post and
Courier as one of the solutions, which is to eliminate septic tanks. He
stated that one of the barriers to removing septic tanks is the cost. He
stated that MPW’s priority is a six ranking priority as shown.
He stated that the next illustration shows the boundary and many of the
properties within this area are within the priorities MPW has set.
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He stated that the in town properties within Shem Creek would be
approximately 63 properties. He stated that the following are MPW’s
recommendations:
Mr. Duffie also indicated that they would further recommend the
following items:
Mr. Duffie stated that the biggest barrier to tie into the wastewater
system is the cost. He stated that MPW is very interested in finding a
solution to the funding issue to help ease this burden on the Town
citizens. He stated that MPW would like to ask the County to partner with
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them and possibly providing funding for the County properties that need
financial assistance to connect to the system.
Mr. Smith asked about the solution. He stated that it is multi-faceted and
complex, but have not seen significant movement and action toward the
end result. He stated that the Town has taken a lead on this in regards to
stormwater runoff. He asked Mr. DeMoura for the dollar amount for the
entire stormwater project along Coleman Boulevard.
Mr. DeMoura stated that approximately half of the entire Coleman
Boulevard project is stormwater related, and that cost alone is
approximately $7 million dollars. He stated that in addition, there were
dozens of acres of land where the water was untreated and is now
captured and treated before it is released. He stated that in mid-July,
staff will receive the report that Council authorized in reference to water
quality in the watershed area. He stated that MPW is a partner. He stated
that the report will be analyzed and prepared for the August Committee
meetings. He stated that it is a serious matter for the Town.
Mr. Smith recommended that rather than having that report presented at
the August Committee meeting, to instead set up a special Stakeholder
meeting for a roundtable discussion to share the results of that report
with the Town’s partners. He stated that learning from the significant
amount of data, they were able to have a conversation with officials from
DHEC (Department of Health and Environmental Control), prior to a
recent COG (Council of Governments) meeting. He stated that there is a
wealth of information that is available, as well as historical data that
Waterkeepers has. He asked Committee members if DHEC should be
invited to the special Stakeholders meeting if discussing water quality.
Mr. DeMoura stated that this would be a very important invitation. He
stated that DHEC permits septic tanks; however, he is unclear as to follow
ups once they have been permitted.
Mr. Smith stated that he is anxious to hear feedback from Committee
members as we discuss DHEC, Charleston Waterkeepers, as well as the
County who should also be present. As discussed, there are significant
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opportunities to discuss the County properties that are in Mount Pleasant
as well. He stated that he would like to take a leadership position on
being proactive.
Mr. Santos stated that he was very interested in the slide indicating that
when there is no rainfall or runoff into Shem Creek, the water level was
good, but runoff creates poor water quality. He stated that he mentioned
previously that Isle of Palms found that their water quality issues were
coming from animals. He feels that this is also the issue with the runoff
going into Shem Creek. He stated that he is looking forward to the report.
Mr. Bustos asked if this was an engineering report.
Mr. DeMoura stated that this is a data report that is focused on the Shem
Creek watershed area regarding water quality.
Mr. Bustos stated that he is fine with the meeting; however, a meeting
should be held prior to the Special Stakeholders meeting so that the
Committee is knowledgeable about what is being discussed before
stakeholders are brought in for more discussions.
Mr. Smith stated that to reiterate, this is solely based on Shem Creek
water quality and how it can be improved. He stated that all of the
Stakeholders would have information the Committee could be reviewing
and evaluating from this process. He stated that it is multi-faceted;
however the Town may take action to move forward in doing their part.
Elton Carrier, 313 King Street, stated that he goes to Shem Creek almost
daily and asked if there is any way a warning system could be put up for
the paddle boarders and kayakers, as well as companies in the area.
Mr. Duffie stated that Waterkeeper’s post their Wednesday sampling on
Friday morning. He stated that there is currently no warning system set
up other than to post all of the sample results. He stated that this was
discussed early today as to what can be done, in addition to their
website, is there a system that could be tied into the Town’s website on
the “Notify Me” App, as well as MPW’s “Notify Me” App in order to push
information out. He stated that it would be up to the individual to make
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the decision whether to go into the water or not, or to perhaps take
additional precautions, such as ear and nose plugs, etc.
Mr. Carrier stated that the fishermen that fish off the dock have seen,
during incoming high tide, debris coming into the Creek and are assuming
it is discharge from a ship.
Mr. Duffie stated that there is a three mile limit on any type of discharge.
He stated that what Mr. Wunderly of Charleston Waterkeeper’s was
relaying to MPW this morning is that their statistics show that the
incoming water appears to be better than the outgoing. He said that they
want to do more correlations about incoming tides.
Mr. Santos stated that he believes it will be easier if the Waterkeeper’s
put up a red flag if the levels are higher and if the levels are good, put a
green flag. He stated that this would be simple and not costly.
Mr. Duffie stated that this is the question he was discussing with Mr.
Wunderly of Charleston Waterkeeper’s as to what kind of a warning
system is in place. Waterkeeper’s only have the website for warnings. He
stated that this conversation just began earlier this morning. He stated
that as per Mr. Carrier’s comments, perhaps the Town and MPW can
expand on this.
Diane Lauritsen, 705 Bradburn Drive, stated that there are scientists at
DNR (Department of Natural Resources), who have studied tidal creeks
and she should be happy to provide their information. She stated that
there is a great deal of information available and it is pollutants, in
addition to fecal bacteria that the Town needs to be concerned about.
She stated that there is the possibility of developing simple applications
that tie rainfall to warning systems. She stated with respect to MPW, they
would like to tie people on who are in the Town that have sewer
available. She stated that there are properties in Shem Creek, but there
are also properties all around the Town. She stated that having the
rebate from the Town would allow MPW to offer a rebate to the
customers who do tie into the sewer system, because they do recognize
that it is expensive. She stated that there are residents in Snowden that
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are not tied on who would like to tie on and MPW would like to help
them this year.
Mr. Smith stated that it appears that this Committee is interested in
moving forward and will schedule that discussion as quickly as possible.
As Mr. DeMoura indicated, perhaps August or as early as next month. He
stated that within thirty days, we will move forward with gathering
information from all the stakeholders and then will be in a position to
move forward, which would include addressing all facets of cleaning up
the water.
Mr. Bustos asked if there is any data of people who have become ill or
suffered from the ill effects of the water in Shem Creek.
Mr. Duffie stated that he does not have any information relative to
people who have become ill. He stated that the standard of 104 bacteria
colonies per 100 milliliters is based on studies done in the 1970’s where
epidemiologists would look at no more than 19 cases of swimmers ear,
etc., per thousand citizens was the number they used and how they
relate. He stated that they are old studies, but that is the basis of the 104
bacteria colonies. If you kept it below 104, you would have less than 19
people become ill.
Mr. Bustos stated in the early 2000’s there was a study done where they
found the flushing action of Shem Creek in the upper reaches was so
little.
Mr. Duffie stated that it took forty days.
Mr. Bustos asked if this was still a part of this.
Mr. Duffie stated that it is. He stated that there are hydrology issues,
stormwater issues, purging issues, runoff, etc.
Mr. Smith stated as more of the properties tie into the stormwater
system, that water is then treated and then put back out into the
community. How is this part of the solution for water quality?
Mr. DeMoura stated that as it relates to stormwater, it is processed
through a cleaning mechanism and that the water being discharged is
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clean. He stated that this has been a requirement for a while. He stated
that the water coming from the Coleman area is likely to have
contributed to some of the water quality issues in Shem Creek. He stated
that all of this is not being cleaned. He stated that it will certainly have
some impact on the water quality.
Ms. Repik stated that all new land development and redevelopment must
come up to stormwater standards, both for flood control and water
quality. She stated that they are seeing, especially in redevelopment sites
that used to be 100% untreated runoff, now install management systems.
Mr. Duffie stated that at some point they will be setting TMDL (total
maximum daily load) in the Creek and there will be goals set to try and
meet that maximum load to keep it below a certain level at all times.
Mr. Bustos stated that he believes something is being missed, because he
was in Shemwood Lakes that overflows, because the capacity of the drain
there which goes to a pipe that goes to Shem Creek is apparently too
small or maybe clogged. He stated that this water actually flows over a
backyard and into the marsh of Shem Creek and would pick up everything
in that backyard which could be fertilizer, dog feces, etc. He asked how
this is being addressed.
Mr. DeMoura stated that the Town is pushing for more regulatory
priority over privately owned ponds. He stated that it would have to
come from the State, not from Town Council. He stated that there are
ponds in Town that are owned and maintained by the Town to ensure
they are operating properly, so we do not have this type of situation. He
stated that when it comes to privately owned ponds, it is much more
difficult and the Town’s authority is limited.
Mr. Bustos stated that the Town cannot go to the owner and request that
they need to do something about it.
Mr. DeMoura stated that they have done so on a number of occasions to
several privately owned ponds and some have complied and some have
not.
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Mr. Bustos stated that when this happens, the Town owns the pollution,
but not the cause.
Mr. Smith stated that if there is any positive light, as we continue to take
incremental steps in this multi-faceted issue, the education in the
community, and Mr. Slade will continue to write good stories in the “Post
and Courier” we can continue to educate the residents towards a
common goal.
Mr. DeMoura stated that one great thing that will come out of this
report, other than providing a great deal of data to develop public policy,
it will provide more tools to be able to fight this fight. He stated that Mr.
Duffie mentioned in his presentation requesting from the County the
ability to require, and the Town sees the same thing, in particular, when
it addresses private ponds. He stated that it provides more authority and
ability to help make sure the water is cleaned as it should be.
Mr. Smith asked Mr. Duffie to spend a few moments on the response to
the mother’s concern about water quality.
Mr. Duffie stated that there has been significant social media and some
national media attention that began approximately three days ago in
reference to a very sad situation where a mother lost a young child from
a brain tumor. He stated that there was another mother that had a son
who has actually recovered from a brain tumor. He stated that there is a
great deal of social media driving this issue. He stated that obviously one
of the first things that citizens began pointing to is if it is in the water.
What the commonality is amongst those affected. He stated that he has
been in close contact with the Mayor and SCDHEC to ensure MPW’s
water quality meets all the standards. He stated that MPW was in contact
with DHEC and received affirmation this morning. He said that all drinking
water in the United States is regulated by the States and EPA
(Environmental Protection Agency). EPA sets the water quality standards
and set the sampling requirement and the reporting requirements. He
said that the good news is that Charleston Water Systems and MPW are
in full compliance with all the State and Federal regulations relative to
water quality. He stated that they have no reason to believe that the
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drinking water in Mount Pleasant is attributable to any of these diseases.
He stated that he hopes that this will educate the public. He stated that
on social media, information and opinions are thrown around that are
not based on facts. He stated that this is unfortunate. He stated that
DHEC has been in contact with the CDC (The Centers for Disease Control
and Prevention) in Atlanta and reviewed how cluster diseases that may
have a common cause and commonalities, are declared. He stated that
DHEC was working on this and he was made aware this morning that they
will not be declaring this a cluster. He stated that MPW’s water quality
reports are on their website. He stated that there is some information in
their 2015 water quality report relative to sampling done on their
chromium which has been noted as a source of a cancer causing agent.
He stated that MPW participated in a survey of unregulated
contaminates (chromium, hexavalent chromium) is an unregulated
contaminate and there is no maximum. He stated that they did sample
their water, as well as Charleston Water Systems and there was none
detected in the MPW reverse osmosis water, and an extremely minor
amount, just slightly above detection in the Charleston Water System,
which puts them well below any limits that would be set. He stated that
there is no standard set for hexavalent chromium, but MPW participated
in the survey to help DHEC gather information about these unregulated
contaminates and the possibility that they may exist in public water. He
stated that the good news is that this is not a constituent concern for
MPW or the Health Department.
Mr. Smith thanked MPW for being pro-active and thanked Mayor Page
for immediately responding and taking a leadership position on this issue
as well. He asked Mayor Page to provide a quick update.
Mayor Page stated that Mr. Duffie covered it well and they have stayed in
close contact. She stated that on the first day, she was in contact with
DHEC and they have finished the reports and she did have a conference
call with the scientist involved and reviewing what the CDC required. She
stated that she also received notice that there is no identifiable cluster.
She stated that as a Town we are devastated by any changes in any
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child’s health and will continue to pray for families and do what we can to
ensure that there are no contaminants affecting children.
Jim Owens, 1197 Island View Drive, stated that there is a feed off of
Highway 41 that comes directly from Charleston Water Systems. He
asked if this was a direct feed to the area in question and is it treated.
Mr. Duffie stated that there is a meter on Highway 41 and that area along
Highway 41 is directly from Charleston Water Systems. He stated that
there are two directly from Charleston Water Systems and the other is on
I-526.
Mr. Owens asked if there were samples taken from any of the families
that were involved.
Mr. Duffie stated that they have not sampled the homes where the
children were affected. He stated that MPW does all the sampling that is
required. He stated that they do 40 samples per month throughout the
system; however, there has been no direct samplings of those homes. He
stated that MPW would be happy to do so if requested.
4. DHEC Regional Water Plan update
Mr. Duffie stated that the Technical Advisory Committee of the COG met
recently to review three permits for withdrawal in the Trident Area. He
stated that there are approximately 28 Committee Members. He stated
that the Water Quality Management Plan (WQMP) is a new document
and the Committee stated that the permit requests for withdrawal were
reasonable and will be referred back to DHEC. He stated that the first one
was a farmer, the second was a cement manufacturer and the third was
Dorchester County Water and Sewer. He stated that all of these wells are
in the 400 feet depth and do not interfere with the aquifer which is 1,800
to 2,000 feet deep. He stated that the Committee felt that was
acceptable to permit those requests. He stated that in reference to the
Maguro (Google) application. He stated that they are revising their
permit request and will be reviewing that application later in the
summer. He said that the Technical Advisory Committee is going to meet
again on July 13th and at that meeting, they will review more closely the
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criteria in the plan and come to some common agreement as to the
criteria they use as a committee to make a recommendation to approve
or deny.
Mr. Smith stated that the action will be to schedule a Stakeholder
meeting after the report is made available, with the stakeholders and any
others deemed necessary as a follow up.
5. Adjourn
There being no further business, meeting was adjourned at 10:52 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Barbara Ashe
June 29, 2017
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