Mayor and City Council
Regular MeetingNew Carrollton, MD · April 5, 2023
Minutes
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CITY OF NEW CARROLLTON MINUTES
COUNCIL WORKSHOP MEETING
WEDNESDAY, APRIL 5, 2023, 7:00 P.M.
The Council Workshop Meeting was held at 7:00 p.m., on Wednesday, April 5, 2023, as a virtual
meeting. Attending were Councilmembers Cynthia DB Mills; Lincoln H.G. Lashley, Katrina R.
Dodro, Allyne Hooks and Briana Urbina; Mayor Phelecia Nembhard; Chief David G. Rice;
Information Technology Administrator Andrew Facey; Lorna Grant-Charles, Director of Finance
& Accounting and City Clerk Araceli Guzman-Benitez.
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Mills called the meeting to order at 7:04 p.m.
2. PUBLIC HEARING: CITY OF NEW CARROLLTON, SEEKS PUBLIC INPUT FOR THE
PROCESS OF THE BUDGET FOR FY2024, FEES FINES AND CIP
Chairperson Mills open the floor for the public hearing.
Lorna Grant-Charles, Director of Finance & Accounting presented the topic and opened the floor
for comments and question.
Councilmember Dodro read the comment provided by resident Craig McLane via email:
Item 2. Regarding the proposed 2024 budget: Overall, the budget is sound but it reflects two
important facts about the government of New Carrollton that have shaped the community for the
past twenty years.
The first of these is that the budget of the police department continues to be enlarged while the
budgets of Public Works and Administration continue to be whittled away. As a result, both the
physical plant of the community and its sense of itself as a community must slowly contract and
deteriorate. That causes property values and rents to stagnate, then fall. Crime then increases.
Urban planners, sociologists, psychologists, social workers, and criminologists are unanimous that
to prevent failed, dangerous neighborhoods, the government should invest in a healthy and vibrant
physical community before things get bad – because it will prevent them from getting bad.
Draining Public Works and Administration to feed the Police Department is a case of placing the
cart before the horse.
The second of these is that New Carrollton's government has had no plan for the community since
Albert Turner was mayor, but instead works to keep things as they are. It has no plan beyond
simply preserving what can be preserved from falling apart, and replacing only those things that
must be replaced, and meeting all legal and financial obligations in the meantime. Suitable plans
for a healthy, vibrant community are grown from a vision of what the community might become,
and it is unfortunately true that our elected officials do not typically share their visions of what
New Carrollton could become when they speak to residents. This could be called “community
development”. Significantly, even the far less encompassing idea of “economic development” is
essentially zeroed out in this budget – barely a seventh of what the government would spend on
gifts and events for its employees.
As a result, the 2024 budget proposal, while generally sound, is a caretaker budget that appears
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likely to meet all legal and financial obligations, but will leave the city just a little less well-off
than it was the year prior.
Those generalities said, there are a few items that bear closer examination:
The increase in expected revenue from Red Light Camera seems optimistic
Why is the street repair budget zeroed out and the sidewalk repair budget cut in half?
Why no earmark for bridge repair when the Powhatan/Westbrook bridges need work?
Why is Workers' Comp cut by a third in Police Support but increased over historical levels in
Code Enforcement?
Does the Speed Camera require a $75K employee as well as overtime for police officers, in
addition to the $280K in fees paid to the vendor?
Is it wise to cut Police Admin General Liability expenditures in half?
The decrease in Admin Cable TV Operation expense is dramatic - maybe optimistic
Franchise fees for Comcast and Verizon seem awfully low, for the revenue they collect here
Are other municipalities paying a half million dollars to service the same number of Red Light
Cameras?
Are we really planning on spending $35K on gifts and events for employees, over and above
the $2K for gifts and special occasions in Admin and $7K for awards to Police?
Items 3 & 14. Strictly speaking, neither of these items could reasonably be described as
addressing an impact of the pandemic on the community. The use of ARPA funds is probably not
appropriate.
Items 3, 10, 13 & 14. All of these proposed expenditures are complicated and technical in nature,
and many other organizations refer such contracting issues to a specially-constituted Source
Selection Authority (normally a committee) so officials who lack the technical knowledge aren't
confronted with a choice that unavoidably have long-term implications they can't imagine. The
Source Selection Authority agrees upon criteria that they will use to evaluate the vendors'
proposals and after doing so provides a recommendation to the decision-makers, along with any
explanations or information they might require. Council should think about developing a similar
process for the City.
Item 3. Software purchases should be approached with caution. Typically, the vendor downplays
the difficulty of migrating existing data, designing and populating databases, and carrying out
training of City employees to use the new system while those employees are supposed to be
performing the duties they were hired to do. This training is critically important. Also, vendors
often understate the cost of the ongoing technical support for the users of their product, as well as
how often the users will need to request such support. Failing to obtain a realistic estimate will
lead to finger-pointing, and sour the relationship between vendor and customer, leading to a poor
return on investment.
Item 4. Regarding the proposed Schedule of Fees: In general, the Schedule contains many format
errors and is not yet in acceptable shape to be approved as an official document. Further, the final
item on the Schedule seems to suggest that all single family households will be subject to a $19/yr
assessment for trash pickup. The wording should be adjusted to clarify the actual meaning, since
such an assessment has not been publicly discussed and would upset residents.
Item 14. Unfortunately, Tasers have been implicated in a small but statistically significant number
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of deaths. Phazzer claims its device has a better safety record than the Taser. However, the
company lost out to Axon, the makers of Taser, in a patent dispute that forced Phazzer into
bankruptcy, and out of business. Phazzer seems to have made adjustments to its product and re-
entered the market in 2021, but it might be a bit early to be confident that they'll be able to stand
behind their product for the foreseeable future – which Axon certainly will. This is not a simple
matter.
Item 19. City government meetings should return to the in-person format and should be opened to
the public.
Grant-Charles thanked the resident for his input and provided a brief response. There will be a
second review of the budget before finalizing it.
3. PRESENTATION: PROPOSED BUDGETING SOFTWARE PURCHASE THROUGH
ARPA FUNDS
Chairperson Mills open the floor for the topic.
Steve Layne and Scott from Opengov to speak and explain the topic of a proposed budgeting &
planning.
Councilmember Lashley had a question about the work of Opengov; Chairperson Mills asked a
question about how to archive current file; Councilmember Dodro asked a question on how to
handle cyber security or cyber-attack and contracting questions; resident Alarcon had a question
about long-term services.
4. PRESENTATION OF THE SCHEDULE OF FEES FY2024
Chairperson Mills open the floor for the topic.
Ms. Grant-Charles explained the topic and updates made to the schedule of fees.
Councilmember Lashley asked if this will include Airbnb’s, and updating wording on certain
language, and removal & disposal of trash clarification; Councilmember Dodro clarified that $19 is
the fee for recycling single-family dwellings, trash $120 for single-family dwellings, condominiums
are $60, which goes to the tonnage to Prince George’s County, she requested housing rental, Airbnb
fees should be added to the schedule of fees now, that copy of financial statements and copy of
lobbying registration to clarify that is free by retrieving it online but it should not cost $50, she had a
question about the meaning of a temporary license and filing fee for departure.
5. 2023 GENERAL ELECTION UPDATE
Chairperson Mills open the floor for the topic.
Mr. Charles Davis, Chair of the New Carrollton Board of Elections and Araceli Guzman-
Benitez, City Clerk presents elections update
A list of Certified Candidates was provided
A Candidate’s Forum will take place in-person and via Zoom, Thursday, April 20, 2023 at
7:00 pm, at the New Carrollton Municipal Center and Via Zoom. The League of Women
Voters will contact the candidates directly. The candidate’s forum is independent from the
City of New Carrollton and the New Carrollton Board of Elections
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Monday, April 3 was the DEADLINE to register with Prince George’s County Board of
Elections in order to vote in the City’s General Election
Absentee Ballots also known as "mail-in ballots" are available via request
The DEADLINE to submit an Absentee Ballot request form is Friday, April 28 (5:00 p.m.)
or (Contact the City Clerk at aguzman@newcarroltonmd.gov). We ask residents who have
turned in an absentee ballot request form, to be patient as ballots have not been processed.
A Ballot Drop Box is in front of the Municipal Center (Any resident who would like to
drop-off an absentee ballot request form and eventually an absentee ballot will be able to do
so at any time)
EARLY VOTING – Saturday, April 22, 2023. Polls will open 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m., New
Carrollton Municipal Center – Multipurpose Room. (6016 Princess Garden Pkwy)
ELECTION DAY – Monday, May 1, 2023. Polls will open 7:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m., New
Carrollton Municipal Center. – Multipurpose Room. (6016 Princess Garden Pkwy)
Councilmember Dodro provided suggestions on how to word absentee ballots in order to follow
updated language from the State of Maryland; Councilmember Lashley had a question about
LWV; Ms. Araceli provided further information about the topic.
6. COMMENTS FROM THE CHAIRMAN
Chairperson Mills stated that the Av room is ready. She perhaps the next meeting might be in
person.
7. REPORT OF THE MAYOR AND ADMINISTRATION
Chairperson Mills open the floor for the topic.
Mayor Nembhard called the Chief of Police to provide his report; March 2023 statistics: 913
calls for service, 127 (911 disconnects), 25 vehicle accidents, 7 assaults, 5 burglaries, 48
disorderly, 31 domestics, 13 family disputes, 14 hit-run, 2 citizen robberies, 8 TA robberies, 11
theft from auto, 6 stolen vehicles, 2 CDS, 8 suspicious persons, 27 suspicious vehicles, 83
traffic stops, 51 quality of life intervention, 122 State citations, 40 SCRO, 52 parking citations,
88 warning citations, 3 of a total 305 citations.
Mayor Nembhard provided an update about the Department of Public Works and the trash
totters; trash regulations needs to be updated; she provided an update on the contract for
recycling; she mentioned that she is in contact with Prince George’s County in reference to the
bridge on Westbrook Drive; Jodie Street road work update; a water truck for DPW, will be one
topic to present to the council in the next meeting; she thanked the council for approving the
purchase of the new police vehicle; old vehicles were placed on Gov-deals; the topic of the new
website was addressed; she addressed the Chief and councilmembers to clarify that in the City
of New Carrollton the spokesperson is the Mayor or the City Attorney, about an incident that
occurred at Foodway, and an incident with a police officer; employment interviews; pushing
forward to build a community center to engage the youth and senior citizens; green initiatives
and economic development; she has completed an audit and inventory of assets since 2020; she
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mentioned the first multi-cultural event coming up to highlight black history month; they
rolling over the fleet management software; an update on Clear Water Partnership project will
be provided; the Frenchman’s Creek playground has been renovated; she applied for grants to
help with road repairs; trying to attract more businesses through economic development through
Prince George’s County, she is economic development certified; the state of Maryland Secretary
of Small Business made a visit to the City of New Carrollton; she thanked the council for
approving the Covid-19 utility/rental assistance and home improvement programs; she is
constantly searching for food resources and suitcases were collected to provide to children in
foster care, she thanked Council Chairperson Mills for providing suitcases through her church as
well as Ella-kids for donating toys; repairs are required in different places in the municipal
center, some bathrooms were renovated; planning more green initiatives such as solar and
electric car purchases in order to maintain Sustainable Maryland certification; preparing to clear
up the Harland Street property; working on school initiatives to help the parents; she applied for
solar grants from the State; she received the trail blazers award from the Academy for
Excellence in Local Governance at the University of Maryland, and some employees were
certified; she provided many proclamations through a committee; five staff members were
CERT certified; the local fire department need resources that maybe the city may provide
through ARPA funds; she invites everyone to the first multi-cultural event in the City of New
Carrollton; she wished all the women in the city a happy belated women’s month.
8. COUNCIL QUESTIONS PERTAINING TO REPORT GIVEN BY MAYOR AND
ADMINISTRATION
Chairperson Mills open the floor for the topic.
Councilmember Dodro thanked the Mayor for visiting her website and implementing her ideas;
she asked the Chief about an incident that happened in Foodway; Chief Rice stated that there is
an ongoing investigation and provided a brief explanation; she requested information about a
staff member who was found guilty of assault and was put in a position from the budget that is
$0; Councilmember Lashley had questions about the budget and he welcomes everyone to the
multi-cultural events; Ms. Grant-Charles responded to those questions; Councilmember Hooks did not
have any questions; Councilmember Urbina had questions about the budget, and what funds are being
used to pay Mr. Harris who is now the Fleet Manager, who does HR reports to in order to make those
types of hires.
9. 6000 HARLAND STREET CLEAN-UP
Chairperson Mills discussed the topic, and stated that they are going to clean the property due to
the condition that the property is in.
Chairperson Mills explained further that the council needs to contact the administration about
certain topics.
10. MUNICIPAL CENTER SOLAR PANEL INSTALLATION PROPOSAL
Chairperson Mills open the floor for the topic.
Andrew Facey discussed the topic and explained the need for solar panels at the municipal
center to qualify for the next Sustainable Maryland certification.
Councilmember Dodro stated that she does not agreed to install solar panels due to the
stipulation that the building has, perhaps the maybe putting solar panel at the Hank Building;
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Councilmember Lashley felt that it is not an urgent matter to place solar panels at this time and
questioned the pricing of the proposals; Mr. Facey further explained; Councilmember Hooks did
not have questions; Councilmember Urbina asked when will this start paying for itself; the
response was the 11th year.
11. DISCUSSION PETITION REQUEST: RESTRICT PARKING TO PERMIT HOLDERS
AT QUENTIN CT
Chairperson Mills discussed the topic of the cul-de-sac to enforce to permit parking; residents of
that area gathered to sign a petition to the city; Mayor Nembhard stated that parking is a
problem throughout the city but Code Enforcement Department stop working at 5:00 pm
however after hours the police department write tickets; Chief Rice explained that they can
work on a solution; Councilmember Urbina supports helping those residents to find a solution;
Councilmember Lashley feels that emergency vehicles can have issues getting access to the cul-
de-sac; Councilmember Dodro explained that in the past there was a criteria to request parking
permits at a specific section, that it can be good to create a group facilitator to work with the
community to create solutions on how to deal with parking.
12. EMERGENCY REPLACEMENT OF THE COOLING TOWER AT THE MUNICIPAL
CENTER
Chairperson Mills open the floor for the topic.
Mayor Nembhard explained the situation with the cooling tower and the need to replace it. She
explained that the ceiling is falling apart.
Councilmember Urbina explained that she set forth the terms in which she will be willing to
vote on things that cost money but that she is not in control of things that she requested but does
not get a response to.
13. DISCUSSION FUEL TANK REPLACEMENT
Chairperson Mills open the floor for the topic.
Mayor Nembhard stated that since the time Latasha was here she had brought up the topic of the
fuel tank being past its age, that she will provide information about the underground tank which
can be piggy-back from two state bid contracts and that one company will bring a 500 gallon
tank during the replacement of the new tank; she further explain the topic.
14. PHAZZER vs TAZER POLICE EQUIPMENT PURCHASE
Chairperson Mills open the floor for the topic.
Chief Rice explained that the equipment has come to their end life; they are not able to fix them;
brought a proposal to replace them; the options are Phazzer or Tazer but that the Phazzer is
cheaper to the other.
Councilmember Lashley requested explanation in the quality and safety of the equipment
deployment; Ms. Grant-Charles stated that the cost of the Phazzer is $24,775.30 as compare
$64.898.70, the purchase will be using ARPA funds; Councilmember Urbina requested
explanation about the safety of the equipment and is it approved to be paid by ARPA funds;
Chief Rice answered the questions; Mayor Nembhard thanked Capt. Butler for putting this topic
together, that the ARPA consultant was called for small equipment; LPRs was another small
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equipment to incorporate in the future.
15. FY2024 BUDGET ORDINANCE
Chairperson Mills open the floor for the topic.
Ms. Grant-Charles requested to discuss the budget ordinance next meeting to be able to make
changes and prepared the final draft.
16. PROCLAMATIONS
Chairperson Mills discussed the topic of proclamations for next meeting.
a) Municipal Clerks Week
b) Municipal Police Week
c) National Public Works Week
17. MEETING MINUTES
Chairperson Mills requested that the Council review the following meeting minutes.
a.)Council Workshop/Special Legislative Meeting Minutes (February 1,2023)
b.) Council Special Workshop Meeting Minutes (February 8, 2023)
c.) Council Legislative Meeting Minutes (February 15, 2023)
d.) Council Workshop/Special Legislative Meeting (March 1, 2023)
e.) Council Special Workshop Meeting (March 8, 2023)
f.) Council Legislative Meeting (March 15, 2023)
18. REVIEW LIST OF PAID BILLS
Chairperson Mills requested that the Council review the following the list of bills.
Batch #1 (March 3, 2023); Batch #2 (March 13, 2023); Batch #3 (March
17, 2023); Batch #4 (March 24, 2023).
19. PUBLIC COMMENT- RESIDENTS’ CONCERNS, AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION
AND, PHONE CALLS
Chairperson Mills open the floor for the audience participation.
Resident- David spoke about the parking issues and the GVWR from the city’s charter; he was
born in 1953 and brought up the position of the City Council Chair has her position only
because she can adjourn meetings and is not acceptable, calling all citizens to come to their
senses May 1st.
Ce-Ce addressed Councilmembers Dodro and Urbina provided comments not very clear.
5813 Lamont Dr.- Pat Jackman: Explained that Sustainable Maryland requires a Green Team
but the Green Team has not met; April is Earth month, what has the city initiated to celebrate
earth month; she had a question about kitchen waste composting.
Mayor Nembhard stated that the composting will be revisited; past Saturday they held a
shredding event but will not be able to do a clean-up day due to early voting; the city will plant
100 trees; a tree will be planted.
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Angela Alarcon – provide a comment about footage being beat by police officers; she requested
an explanation about the officer who was given a position that was not advertised; she is
questioning the transparency of the Mayor, the council and the police; she wants to know how
will the Chief addressed this type of behaviors; Chief Rice stated that he cannot get into the
topic.
20. REQUEST FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS NOT ALREADY SUBMITTED
Chairperson Mills stated that she would not request future agenda items.
Councilmember Urbina requested to put forward an Ordinance that makes it impossible for
someone who was convicted of a crime that they conducted while they were employed by the
city to be rehire by the city.
Mayor Nembhard addressed Ms. Alarcon that it was the first time that she viewed those videos
herself was when those videos surface through the media; Mr. Jeffery Harris was not fired by
the Police Department and he was not re-hired; she stated that the information that they
received is false information.
21. ADJOURNMENT
Chairperson Mills called the adjournment.
There being no further business, Chairperson Mills moved to adjourn the Council Workshop
Meeting for Wednesday, April 5, 2023. No one seconded the motion. Not everyone were in
favor. (1-3-0).
Chairperson Mills adjourned the meeting at 10:09 pm.
The meeting ended at 10:09 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Araceli Guzman-Benitez
Araceli Guzman Benitez
City Clerk
Adopted by the City Council on August 16, 2023.
Note: The official recording of the City of New Carrollton’s Council Workshop Meeting of
Wednesday, April 5, 2023, has been posted to the City of New Carrollton’s website:
www.newcarrolltonmd.gov.
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