City Council Conference
Regular MeetingNorman, OK · October 22, 2019
Minutes
CITY COUNCIL CONFERENCE MINUTES
October 22, 2019
The C ity Counci l of the City of Norman, Cleveland County, State of Oklahoma, met in a
conference at 5:30 p.m. in the Municipal Building Conference Room on the 22nd day of October,
20 19, and notice and agenda of the meeting were posted at the Municipal Building at 20 I West
Gray and the Norman Public Library at 225 North Webster 48 hours prior to the beginning of the
meeting.
PRESENT: Councilmembers Bierman, Carter,
Hickman, Holman, Petrone, Scanlon,
Scott, Wilson, Mayor C lark
ABSENT: None
Item I, being:
UPDATE FROM MARION HUTCHJSON, THE CITY OF NORMAN ' S REPRESENTATIVE
TO THE REGJONAL TRANSPORTATION AUTHOR ITY OF CENTRAL OKLAHOMA
REGARDING THE STATUS OF THE PROJECT(S).
Mayor Clark introduced Mr. Marion Hutchison, the City of Norman 's Representative to the
Regional Transpo1tation Authority of Central Oklahoma (RTACO). Mr. Hutchison said he has
been working on a Regional Transit System (RTS) for over 12 years and Norman is c loser than it
has ever been to creating a RTS. He sa id Norman has led the way from the beginning and the
other participating cities have fo llowed that lead.
Mr. Hutchison said many cities already have an intermodal regio nal rail trans it system in place,
such as Dallas, Texas; Denver, Colorado; Salt Lake City, Utah , etc. He sa id the City of Nonnan
can review a ll of these systems to determine what works and what does not work. He said an RTS
is essentially a comprehensive transit system to serve the mo bility of an entire region that includes
light rail, commute r ra il , modern streetcar, enhanced bus, and rapid bus transit. He said an
lntermodal Hub provides a centra l connection between modes and the transit system is typically
operated by a Regional Transit Authori ty (RTA) created by participating local governments.
Mr. Hutchison said intermodal transit is the seam less movement of passengers from one mode to
another through a central hu b. The whole purpose is to provide efficient transportation options for
the public because people w ill ride the systems if it is effective and will get them to their locations
faster than what they can drive. He said one of the biggest factors is transferring from one mode
to another offering connection between a set of origins and destinations and although intermodal
transportation is possible, it does not necessaril y occur. Intermoda l transit is the movement of
passengers or fre ight from one mode of transport to another, commonly taking p lace at a termi na l
specifically des igned for such a purpose. Mr. Hutchison sai d intermodal hubs provide a centra l
link for a RTS connecting with commuter rail, light rail, modern streetcar, and bus systems to
provide efficient passenger transfer between transit modes.
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Light rai I is a smaller, lighter rai I vehicle with faster acceleration and electric powered motors
using overhead wire systems. Light rail operates within its own grade-separated right-of-way (not
Federal Transit Authority approved for use in mixed rail traffic) in the street and has a shorter
distance operation with more stations closer together and less passenger seating capacity with no
restrooms or work tables. Light rail systems can cost $100 to $200 million per mile.
Commuter rail is a larger, heavier rail vehicle typically with a separate locomotive engine and
passenger coach vehicles. Commuter rail has a diesel/electric powered motor with slower
acceleration, but higher speeds. Commuter rail operates in existing freight rail right-of-way on
existing at-grade tracks with longer distance operations and fewer stations spaced further apa11.
Commuter rail provides more passenger seating capacity, restrooms, and work tables. Commuter
rail systems can cost $25 to $50 million per mile.
Mr. Hutchison sa id street cars are now in operation in Oklahoma City and it is important to
consider how these street cars will serve the regional system . He said in a regional system, a
person should be able to step off the train and step onto street car that will be going to that person's
destination. He said this is known as the " last mile" component where a person may have to walk
a block or two to their final destination, but the transit system should be able to get a person as
close as possible.
Benefits of rail transit include providing a safe, energy efficient transportation system; generating
economic growth; enhancing quality of life; reducing Carbon Dioxide (CO2) and ozone emissions;
ensuring economic competitiveness with peer cities in attracting and retaining businesses, jobs,
and residents; and protecting our economic and transpo11ation future with high fuel costs and time
wasted in traffic. Mr. Hutchison said there has been strong public support for a rail system over
the last eight years.
Quality of life benefits include providing affordab le, efficient transportation options for traveling
to work, schoo l, entertainment, medical offices, civic facilities, and other public destinations;
improving personal mobility and freedom for all citizens; savi ng on fu el and maintenance costs by
lowering vehicle miles traveled; reducing time spent in traffic ; allowing more time for work,
personal interests, or relaxation; promoting better health by encouraging walking, biking, and daily
exercise; easing traffic and congestion; improving air quality, hea lth, and the environment by
lowering emiss ions; and reducing stress related to transportation.
Economic benefits include stimulating transit oriented development; generating economic activity;
raising property values; increas ing loca l and state tax revenues; enhancing business, retail, and
entertainment districts; accelerating urban renewal and core area revitalization; attracting new
residents and businesses; and providing valuable cost sav ings for transit users. Transit oriented
development increases business revenue, property value, and tax revenue, and improves quality of
life.
Mr. Hutchison said econom ic development is about people. The better we move people, the more
business we generate and economic success in the 2 1st Century requires making our region
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attractive to an educated workforce. He said corporations have discovered that a good transit
system is essential to recruiting such talent.
National trends on housing and transit project that over the next 20 years, the housing market wi II
be dominated by retiring Baby Boomers and a younger labor force with a preference for smaller
households and access to transit. Transit system availability will become increasingly important
in meeting the mobility needs for aging Baby Boomers and Generation Y and Millennials have
lower rates of car ownership and show a strong preference for urban style housing served by an
effective transit system. As the United States labor force shrinks with the retirement of the Baby
Boomers, availability of transit will be an important factor in retaining and attracting this young
labor force, which will be critical to the economic success of businesses and cities.
Mr. Hutchison said public transportation saves people time and money. The American Public
Transportation Association studied urban areas where both bus and rail service are available to
commuters and they observed that, per year, riders saved 4,400 miles of driving, 223 gallons of
gas, 273 hours stuck in traffic, and $ I 0,000 in fuel and maintenance costs.
Transportation system benefits provide valuable transportation options, and improves mobility,
and increases transportation system capacity without creating additional traffic and congest. It
does not replace automobiles and roadways, but is an effective means to address traffic and
congestion issues related to population growth. He said growing cities with premium transit have
slower rates of growth in vehicle miles traveled (VMT), especially during peak travel periods. He
said reduced VMT growth translates into more efficient use of transpo11ation modes.
Mr. Hutchison said a model system is the Salt Lake City Utah Transit Authority (UTA), which is
a similar, western type geographic location and size of the proposed RTACO. He said the UTA
was created in 1970 with a 15-member board appointed by municipal and county officials. They
have a dedicated trans it sales tax of 0.68375%. Their transit system consists of 131 bus routes;
one bus rapid transit line; 373 buses; three light rail lines; 16 light rail trains; and one commuter
rail system (88 miles from Ogden to Salt Lake City to Provo). The system has an intermodal hub
in downtown Salt Lake City and directly serves Hill Air Force Base with annual ridership of
42,806.000 million riders.
Mr. Hutchison said in 2012, Mayor Mick Cornett of Oklahoma City brought Mayor Ralph Becker
of Salt Lake City to give a keynote speech for the Mayor's Round Table and Mayor Becker said
Salt Lake City's light rail streetcar and its integration with a commuter rail system serving outlying
areas of the City and suburbs was particularly important to spurring private development. The
linked rail and streetcar system helped inspire growth that also included people moving to
downtown Salt Lake City about as fast as the City could handle. The ridership projections doubled
and rail transit is making a huge difference in where people concentrate their economic
investments, but also by relieving congestion and providing a pretty clear path to what the future
of surface transportation wi II be.
Mr. Hutchison said public support continues to grow for all modes of transportation. He said
studies show that business locations near high quality urban settings with clean, efficient rail are a
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priority for the young workers. He said Oklahoma is ranked last out of 50 largest metropolitan
areas as best prepared for $4 per gallon gasoline and ranked 84th out of I 00 metropolitan cities in
serving the transit needs of its workforce and the reason is the lack of a RTS.
Mr. Hutchison said to make the RTS work, public, political, and business support is needed, an
RTA needs to be established (completed), a regional transit district needs to be defined, and a
dedicated funding source is needed to develop an intermodal hub, community rail, streetcar, and
bus systems.
Councilmember Wilson asked if the RTACO envisioned how the driverless car will impact the
RTS and Mr. Hutchison said the technology is there, but do people really think that everyone will
be in driverless cars in our lifetime? He said it is more likely that driverless vehicles can assist in
the last mile m ode. Councilmember Holman sa id driverless cars do not so lve the problem of
congestion so the same number of cars will still be on the street, if not more.
Mr. Hutchison said one of the challenges is density, because the Central Oklahoma region is spread
out; however, the primary transit corridors will be in much more highly dense areas. He said
Oklahoma has a spoke type system where existing rail corridors pass through Central Oklahoma
and can be easily connected to a central hub. He sa id Oklahoma is fortunate to have these existing
corridors that will hopefully be accessible.
Mr. Hutchison said transit is not a ll about trains. He said a comprehensive bus system is the
backbone of the RTS and a bus system expansion will be required first to provide connecting
serv ice when rail transit operations begin. He said buses have to be at the rail stations on time and
it is easier if one operational entity is coordinating all of that.
In 2005, the Central Oklahoma Trans portation and Parking Authority (COPTA) with Oklahoma
City did the very first fixed gu ideway study where commuter rail corridors were identified.
Mr. Hutchison said light rail is very expensive so at that time commuter rail was deemed the best
transit solution; however, since that time huge strides have been made. He said in 2009-20 I 0, the
Association of Central Oklahoma Governments (ACOG) developed framework for a RTA and
Regio nal Transit District; in 20 11 , ACOG completed an lntermodal Hub Study; in 2014,
Oklahoma City acquired Santa Fe Station for a hub; in 2014, ACOG completed the Commuter
Corridor Analysis; in 2014, House Bill 2480 signed by the Governor allowed for RTAs; in 2015,
Oklahoma metro area cities authorized a RTA Task Force to develop a RTA; in 2017, Oklahoma
City developed 6.9 miles of a downtown modern street car system ; and in 2019, Oklahoma City,
Norman, Moore, Midwest C ity, and Del City created the Regional Transportation Authority o f
Central Oklahoma.
Mr. Hutchison hi ghlighted benefits of creating an RTA as creating single government structure for
managing development and operation of RTS; formalizing collaboration among cities in regional
transit decisions, funding, operations, and maintenance; providing transit services in an efficient,
seamless manner; focusing on regional transit perspective, rather than city by city, for a robust
metropolitan-wide system. Facilitating the implementation of a regio nal dedicated funding source
for transit; improving ability to successfu lly compete for federal transit funding; coordinating
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planning for development near transit stations; and providing single point of contact to work with
large business, developers, universities, spo11s teams, and other major activity generators to
enhance visitor experience with additional mode options.
The Santa Fe lntermodal Station in Oklahoma City is ready to service a RTS. The Oklahoma City
streetcar system is the first modern rail transit system in Oklahoma and connects to housing;
employment; retail; entertainment; and public facilities. The streetcar system services Deep
Deuce; Bricktown; Santa Fe Station; Scissortail Park; Chesapeake Arena; the Convention Center;
Myriad Gardens; Oklahoma Memorial; St. Anthony Hospital; Central Business Di strict (CBD);
Heritage Hills; and Automobile Alley.
Mr. Hutchison highlighted RTACO activities as follows:
• The RTA is a seven-member board (includes a member from each participating city) with
former Governor Brad Henry as the Chair;
• RTS is currently funded through 2021 by member cities contributi ons;
• ACOG is providing staff support until permanent funding is established;
• Legal and Planning consultant is under contract with RTA;
• Working with Federal Transit Administration to qualify RTA to receive federal funding
grants;
• Di scussions are taking place with the Burlington, Northern, Santa Fe Railroad regarding
commuter rail options;
• Preparing to update RTS plans and cost analysis;
• Coordinating with member cities and chambers of commerce about funding initiative; and
• Possible vote on dedicated RT A funding source to be held in two to three years.
Council member Bierman asked if the transit vehicle will be Americans with Disabilities (ADA)
accessible and Mr. Hutchison sa id yes, that is required under federal regu lations. Councilmember
Bierman said the need for paratrans it service could be reduced if a comprehensive intermodal
system provides services needed by ADA citizens. Mr. Hutchison said the goal is to have really
good equipment that serves the entire public.
Councilmember Petrone asked how much sales tax would be needed and Mr. Hutchi son said that
is still being considered, but at least one half of one cent is anticipated.
Mayor Clark said this program is very exciting and this is an excellent opportunity if the proposed
one-eighth percent sales tax in Norman is passed to commit early on to regional transit, which
would be a game changer for Norman. She said this will also be an economic driver for the
community.
Items submitted for the record
I. PowerPoint presentation entitled, " Regional lntermodal Rail Transit Systems,
Ensuring Our Economic and Transportation Future"
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The meeting was adjourned at 6:25 p.m.
ATTEST:
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