City Council Finance Committee Meeting
Regular MeetingNorman, OK · October 19, 2023
Minutes
CITY OF NORMAN, OK
CITY COUNCIL FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING
Municipal Building, Council Chambers, 201 West Gray, Norman, OK 73069
Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 4:00 PM
MINUTES
The City Council Finance Committee of the City of Norman, Cleveland County, State of Oklahoma, met
at 4:00 pm in the Municipal Building Executive Conference Room on the 19th day of October, 2023, and
notice of agenda of the meeting were posted in the Municipal Building at 201 West Gray, 24 hours prior
to the beginning of the meeting.
CALL TO ORDER
PRESENT
Mayor Larry Heikkila
Councilmember Ward 3 Bree Montoya
ABSENT
Councilmember Ward 6 Elizabeth Foreman
OTHERS
Councilmember Helen Grant
Councilmember Stephen Holman
Councilmember Michael Nash
Councilmember Lauren Schueler
Anthony Francisco, Director of Finance
Kim Coffman, Budget Manager
Jacob Huckabaa, Budget Technician
Dannielle Risenhoover, Admin. Tech IV
Shawn O'Leary, Director of Public Works
Olivia McCourry, Norman Transcript
Mayor Heikkila called the meeting to order at approximately 4:00 PM.
AGENDA ITEMS
1. DISCUSSION REGARDING MONTHLY REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE REPORTS
Director of Finance, Anthony Francisco gave the report. Francisco stated that the tax revenue
for October was "flat" and the City is "a bit below" their projected revenue. Francisco stated that
he would continue to monitor this.
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Francisco asked for direction regarding the School Resource Officer (SRO) program.
Francisco's understanding is that Council would like to proceed with adding an agenda item to
the November 14 Council meeting agenda. This item would relate to the consent to add the four
SROs that are mandated by the Public Safety Sales Tax Two ordinance with no additional
contribution from the Norman Public School (NPS) District.
Councilmember Schueler stated, "I would like to see in conversations that we are going to
negotiate with them (NPS) about the additional officers that we bring on. I don't want to get into
a positions where we've said, 'Well, because the school district can't fund it, we're going to
continue to fund those four without a cost share in perpetuity,' so I would like us to have those
negotiating opportunities."
Councilmember Grant stated, "I am uncomfortable with just getting this funded without having
that MOU (Memorandum of Understanding) negotiated. There are some questions around the
program that I feel maybe we could address in the MOU regarding things that I don't want to
sweep under the rug which have come out from our community around some of the negative
impacts with some SROs. I remember the school board talking about all of the positive ones,
but it's really the negative ones that we should be looking to improve upon." Grant asked if the
MOU could be negotiated before trying to fund the four additional SROs.
Francisco replied, "In the renegotiation of the MOU for next fiscal year, we can certainly include
that. It's basically every five years or so that we renegotiate the terms of what's in the MOU. On
an annual basis we just talk about the amount of money, but we can certainly include that sort
of concern this coming April for next fiscal year."
Councilmember Holman stated, "I am still in the same position where I'd like to get the voter
approved obligation taken care of, I'd like to not be paying overtime for having our existing SROs
going around. If we were to approve going ahead with the four positions, I definitely would want
that to be part of the yearly negotiation we have with NPS about the joint funding. I think when
it comes to expanding the program, what I said to NPS was, 'I think that would take a voter
approved expansion of the Public Safety Sales Tax (PSST). And if that's what people want then
that's what they could vote on. I don't think there would be concern about it repealing the existing
PSST. I would like to get these positions settled before next school year."
Francisco advised the Committee, "Just remember if you add 13 or 23 additional police cars
you're going to need one or two additional mechanics. There are other costs related to growing
personnel. Just know that."
Councilmember Grant and Councilmember Holman raised the question of if the additional SROs
would each have to have a "take home," individually assigned, police car. Francisco stated,
"Conceptually speaking, if the four (additional SROs) are supposed to be floating between 17
schools, they need a car. That's the concept anyway."
Mayor Heikkila also replied with, "The way I've had it explained to me in the past is the reason
police officers have to have a vehicle or unit with them is if they need to respond. If we had
some kind of emergency where we were pulling everyone from everywhere, go back to the
swatting incident at OU, they have to have a (police) vehicle."
Shawn O'Leary stated, "I would look to the Police Chief to guide us on where they think they are
with the current assignment of (police) vehicles. There's been extras in recent years because
they've been down so many officers, but as they're filling back up, my understanding is that we're
at the vehicle quota."
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Items for the record:
Monthly Financial Reports
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Heikkila adjourned the meeting at 4:30 PM.
ATTEST:
______________________________ ______________________________
City Clerk Mayor
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Agenda
CITY OF NORMAN, OK
CITY COUNCIL FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING
Municipal Building, Council Chambers, 201 West Gray, Norman, OK 73069
Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 4:00 PM
AGENDA
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CALL TO ORDER
AGENDA ITEMS
1. DISCUSSION REGARDING MONTHLY REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE REPORTS
ADJOURNMENT
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