Floodplain Permit Committee Meeting
Regular MeetingNorman, OK · September 8, 2020
Minutes
FLOODPLAIN PERMIT COMMITTEE MEETING
201 West Gray, Building A, Conference Room D
Virtual Meeting via Video Conference
Tuesday, September 8, 2020
3:30 p.m.
Minutes
PRESENT: Shawn O’Leary, Director of Public Works
Ken Danner, Subdivision Development Manager
Jane Hudson, Director of Planning and Community Development
Lora Hoggatt, Planning Services Manager
Sherri Stansel, Citizen Member
Neil Suneson, Citizen Member
OTHERS PRESENT: Carrie Evenson, Stormwater Program Manager
Todd McLellan, Development Engineer
Kathryn Walker, City Attorney
Amy Shepard, Staff
Gary Farris, Resident
Leonard Billingsley, Resident
J.W. Dansby, Dansby Engineering
Ryan Loosley, Dansby Engineering
Jeremy Stahle, Western Farmers Electric Cooperative
Yohannes Brown, Western Farmers Electric Cooperative
Shawn O’Leary welcomed the committee and introduced the newest member of the Floodplain
Committee the Planning Services Manager, Lora Hoggatt. The meeting was called to order by
Shawn O’Leary at 3:30 p.m.
Item No. 1, Approval of Minutes:
Six members of the committee were present, and a quorum was established. Scott Sturtz was
absent. Mr. O’Leary called for a motion to approve the minutes from the meeting of June 1,
2020. A motion was made to approve the minutes by Sherri Stansel. The motion was seconded
by Neil Suneson. The minutes were approved 5-0.
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Item No. 2, Floodplain Permit Application No. 615:
Mr. O’Leary said this application was for the replacement of utility transmission poles on
property located on the west side of I-35 south of West Lindsey Street in the Canadian River
Floodplain. Dr. Carrie Evenson gave the staff report for Floodplain Permit Application No. 615.
Dr. Evenson introduced the applicant as Western Farmers Electric Cooperative/CEC
represented by Jeremy Stahle and Yohannes Brown. Dr. Evenson said the applicant plans to
remove 11 existing wood transmission line poles and replace them with 6 steel poles in order
to reduce the number of poles in the floodplain and increase the reliability of the transmission
line. Dr. Evenson said existing wood poles to be removed will be cut at grade and the remaining
material below grade will be left in the ground to limit disturbance to the floodplain. Dr.
Evenson said the new steel structures, Structures 25, 26, 28, and 29, will consist of steel poles
on each of two (2) 7-foot diameter foundations and four (4) 6-foot diameter foundations. The
foundations for each pole will extend two (2) feet above grade. Dr. Evenson said Structures 25,
26, and 28 are located within Norman city limits, with Structure 29 located on the south side of
the Canadian River in McClain County outside of the city limits. Dr. Evenson reviewed maps
of the current location, the proposed location, and the location within the floodplain. Dr.
Evenson reviewed photos of the existing structures and plans for the proposed new structures
as well as photographs of the property. Dr. Evenson verified the application met all applicable
ordinances and said that staff recommends approval of Floodplain Permit Application No. 615.
Mr. O’Leary asked for comments or questions on behalf of the applicant. Hearing none, he
asked if there were any questions from the committee. Ms. Stansel asked about the location of
access for the project. Mr. Yohannes Brown said they were working with property owners to
access the poles at the south end. Mr. Brown said the sites at the north end could be accessed
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using an easement on W. Lindsey Street which may require temporary removal of fence and
traffic control. Mr. Brown said the other location of access would be on Shadowcrest Court.
Ms. Stansel inquired about the construction timeline and materials. Mr. Brown said the
construction of the concrete foundations is planned by February 2021, with the line contractor
to begin between March and April 2021. Ms. Stansel asked if the traffic disturbance would
extend the entire period or just during active construction. Mr. Brown said the fence would be
secured between phases. Mr. Ken Danner recommended approval of Floodplain Permit
Application No. 615. Mr. Suneson seconded the motion. The committee voted to approve the
application 6-0.
Item No. 3, Floodplain Permit Application No. 616:
Mr. O’Leary said Floodplain Permit Application No. 616 was for the construction of a carport
on the property located at 401 Thorton Drive in the Merkle Creek floodplain. Dr. Evenson gave
the staff report for Floodplain Permit Application No. 616. Dr. Evenson said the applicant is
Gary Farris and the engineer for the project is J.W. Dansby. Dr. Evenson said the applicant
owns an approximately 0.35 acre tract at 401 Thorton Drive, which is located in the Merkle
Creek floodplain. Dr. Evenson said there is an existing house currently on the property, and the
applicant is proposing to build a 16 ft. by 20 ft. carport located north of the existing house on
the existing concrete drive. Dr. Evenson said the carport will be open on all sides so as not to
restrict the flow of floodwaters. Dr. Evenson said the posts will be 2.5 inch square posts that
will be anchored to the existing concrete using ½” x 6 ¾” wedge anchors embedded a minimum
of 3 ¼” deep. Dr. Evenson said the proposed structure will be located partially within the
floodplain and that the applicable ordinance section 429.1 4(b) (5) allows the placement of fill
to elevate residential and non-residential structures if compensatory storage is provided. Dr.
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Evenson said according to the applicant’s engineer, approximately 1.32 cubic feet will be
brought into the floodplain as part of this project; however, he does not recommend
compensatory storage for this project. Dr. Evenson said staff recommends that at least 1.32
cubic feet of compensatory storage be provided to meet this ordinance requirement. Dr.
Evenson reviewed plans and photographs of the property and confirmed all other ordinance
requirements have been met. Dr. Evenson said staff recommends that Floodplain Permit
Application #616 be approved with the condition that compensatory storage be provided. Mr.
O’Leary asked for comments or questions from the applicant or engineer. Mr. Dansby said the
reason he recommended no compensatory storage is due to the location of the floodplain on the
property and the small amount required. Mr. Dansby said to be in compliance the applicant will
have to dig a hole in his front yard to meet the requirement and since it is such a small amount
he recommended not to provide it. Mr. O’Leary said staff explored the current Floodplain
Ordinance and found that it does not currently have a provision or variance for a de minimis
amount regarding compensatory storage but that if the Committee would like to explore
defining that then it could be considered for future updates. Mr. O’Leary said, as the ordinance
is written today, there is not a way to approve the application without compensatory storage
being provided. Mr. O’Leary asked for questions or comments from the committee. Mr.
Suneson recommended approval of Floodplain Permit Application No. 616 with the condition
that the applicant work with City staff to find a reasonable alternative/location for compensatory
storage. Ms. Sherri Stansel asked for clarification about the amount of soil that would need to
be removed. Mr. Dansby stated the volume is about the contents of one wheelbarrow. Ms.
Stansel asked the applicant for his thoughts. Mr. Farris said he would prefer not to place a hole
in his front yard but understands the ordinance may require it. Mr. O’Leary clarified the motion
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by Mr. Suneson that the applicant will work with staff to find a practical application to provide
compensatory storage. Jane Hudson seconded the motion. The committee voted to approve the
application 6-0.
Item No. 4, Approval of Floodplain Ordinance Revisions:
Mr. O’Leary said the next item was the review and approval of the floodplain ordinance revision
to adopt the new Flood Insurance Study (FIS) and Flood Insurance Rate Maps (FIRMs) that
will become effective on January 15, 2021. Dr. Evenson gave the staff report for the ordinance
revisions. Dr. Evenson introduced the City Attorney, Mrs. Kathryn Walker, who has been
assisting in oversight of the ordinance updates. Dr. Evenson gave a review of the history of the
City of Norman’s floodplain ordinance, the method and process that occurred to bring these
revisions forward, and the public input and meetings to bring it before the committee. Dr.
Evenson said the 10 Mile Flat Creek watershed will be impacted by the study by removing 18
properties from the floodplain and adding 28 properties to the floodplain. Dr. Evenson said the
Brookhaven Creek watershed will be impacted by removing 42 properties from the floodplain
and adding 39 properties to the floodplain. Dr. Evenson said all property owners had been
notificed and were given two opportunities to discuss the map changes. Dr. Evenson said that
representatives from all participating agencies, including Federal Emergency Management
Agency (FEMA), Oklahoma Water Resources Board (OWRB) and Meshek & Associates, were
available to assist property owners and answer questions. Dr. Evenson said some of the benefits
of the new FIRMs included more detailed and accurate maps with Base Flood Elevation (BFE)
data, mapping and BFE data integrated in the City’s Geographical Information System (GIS),
and more accurate data available to stakeholders when applying for Letters of Map Revision
(LOMR) and Letters of Map Amendment (LOMA). Dr. Evenson said part of the map revision
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process requires the update and adoption of the City’s revised floodplain ordinance prior to
January 15, 2021. Dr. Evenson said that if approved by the Floodplain Permit Committee, the
revisions would be sent to OWRB and brought before the Planning Commission and City
Council for adoption. Dr. Evenson said the revisions will correct minor typographical errors,
adjust the definition of “manufactured home”, reference the FEMA FIRM Panels and FIS,
update the titles of Floodplain Permit Committee members, and add the use of FEMA’s Base
Level Engineering data as approved data to be used for determining BFEs in “A” Zones. Dr.
Evenson said staff recommends that the Floodplain Permit Committee, Planning Commission,
and City Council approve the floodplain ordinance revisions. Mr. O’Leary thanked staff for
the work to bring this forward and noted the significance of this study and these updates to both
the 10 Mile Flat and Brookhaven Creek floodplains. Mr. O’Leary asked for comments or
discussion on the item. Hearing none, he asked for a motion. Mr. Danner motioned to approve
the Floodplain Ordinance Revisions. Mr. Suneson seconded the motion. The committee voted
to approve the revision 6-0.
Item No. 5, Miscellaneous Discussion:
a) Mr. O’Leary said the September 21, 2020, meeting has been cancelled due to lack of
applications.
b) Mr. O’Leary said the deadline for the October 5, 2020, meeting is coming up on
September 16, 2020.
c) Mr. O’Leary said that this would be Mr. Suneson’s last meeting with the Floodplain
Permit Committee and thanked him for his many years of service to the community and
the committee.
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d) Mr. Danner said he had received a citizen request for an update on the floodplain
violation at 535 S. Pickard Avenue. Mr. O’Leary asked City Attorney Kathryn Walker
to update the committee. Mrs. Walker said she would research the status and send it to
the committee.
Item No. 5, Adjournment:
Mr. O’Leary called for a motion to adjourn. Ms. Stansel motioned to adjourn and was seconded
by Mr. Danner. Motion was approved 6-0. Meeting adjourned at 4:08 p.m.
Agenda
FLOODPLAIN PERMIT COMMITTEE
AGENDA
VIA VIDEO CONFERENCE
Tuesday, September 8, 2020
MEETING TIME: 3:30 p.m.
MEETING PLACE: This is a Virtual Meeting hosted at 201 West Gray, Building A, Conference
Room D.
Committee Members Shawn O’Leary, Jane Hudson, Lora Hoggatt, Scott Sturtz, Ken Danner, Sheri
Stansel, and Neil Suneson are all appearing via video conference.
1. Approval of Minutes from the June 1, 2020, meeting.
2. Floodplain Permit No. 615: This application is for the replacement of utility transmission poles on
property located west side of I-35 south of West Lindsey Street in the Canadian River Floodplain.
3. Floodplain Permit No. 616: This application is to construct a carport on the property located at 401
Thorton Drive in the Merkle Creek floodplain.
4. Approval of Floodplain Ordinance Revisions: Revision to Floodplain Ordinance to adopt the new
Flood Insurance Study (FIS) and Flood Insurance Rate Maps (FIRMs) that become effective January
15, 2021.
5. Miscellaneous Discussion:
a. The filing deadline for application submittals for the September 21, 2020 meeting is Wednesday,
September 2, 2020. Currently, there are no pending applications.
b. The filing deadline for application submittals for the October 5, 2020 meeting is Wednesday,
September 16, 2020. Currently, there are no pending applications.
6. Adjournment.
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