Public Safety Oversight Committee Meeting
Regular MeetingNorman, OK · February 8, 2018
Minutes
CITIZENS PUBLIC SAFETY OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE MINUTES
February 8, 2018
The Citizens Public Safety Oversight Committee of the City of Norman, Cleveland County, State
of Oklahoma, met at 4 p.m. at Police Department Briefing Room, 201 W. Gray Street, Building
B on the 8th day of February, 2018, and notice and agenda of the meeting were posted at City
Hall located at 201 W. Gray Street 24 hours prior to the beginning of the meeting.
PRESENT: Members Lea Greenleaf, Linda Price, Joan
Goth, Bill Scanlon, Chair Eddie Sims, Jim
Costello, and Melanie Hayes
ABSENT: Members David Wilson and Matthew Leal
COMMITTEE LIAISONS: Robert Wasoski, FOP (absent)
OU (position vacant)
IAFF (position vacant)
STAFF PRESENT: Suzanne Krohmer, Budget Manager
David Shepard, Radio Comm. Technician
Mark Bechtel, Animal Welfare Manager
Major Teuscher, NPD
Captain Hawkins, NPD
Major Foster, NPD
Captain Brent Barbour, NPD
Chief Travis King, NFD
Asst. Chief Wilson, NFD
Jacob McGuire, Norman Transcript
Item 2, being
INTRODUCTION OF STAFF AND GUESTS
Chair Sims called the meeting to order. He welcomed staff and guests to the meeting and asked
them to introduce themselves.
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Item 3, being
APPROVAL OF THE CITIZENS PUBLIC SAFETY OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE MINUTES
OF January 11, 2018.
Citizens Public Safety Oversight Committee Minutes
February 8, 2018
Page 2
Member Price made a motion to approve the Citizens Public Safety Oversight Committee minutes
of the January 11, 2018 meeting, which motion was duly seconded by Member Scanlon; and the
question being to approve the Citizens Public Safety Oversight Committee minutes of January 11,
2018 a vote was taken with the following result:
YEAS: Members Lea Greenleaf, Linda Price, Joan
Goth, Bill Scanlon, Chair Eddie Sims, Jim
Costello, and Melanie Hayes
NAYES: none
Chair Sims declared the motion carried and the Citizens Public Safety Oversight Committee
minutes of January 11, 2018 are approved.
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ITEM 4, being:
MONTHLY UPDATES
Finance Report
Suzanne Krohmer gave the report. She stated that the $162,000 reimbursement was from the
Norman Public Schools for their SRO program. She also pointed out charges for the Radio
System design project to Tusa Consulting in this month’s report, and there were also EOC design
costs to Architect Design Group (ADG).
Member Scanlon asked about the $8,200 in Fire Capital Equipment. Krohmer stated it was for
bunker coats and pants.
Fire Department
Member Scanlon asked about the Fire Apparatus storage project. Chief King stated that he
would go into this later in the meeting.
Police Report
Citizens Public Safety Oversight Committee Minutes
February 8, 2018
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Captain Hawkins gave the report. He stated that there were 560 COP hours for the month, with
116 hours being in relationships. January events included the first month of change up in Coffee
with a Cop, which was moved to Saturday morning. There was a good turnout and the changing
of the dates and times is going well. The Interfaith Breakfast was held on Martin Luther King Jr.
Day, the Police and Fire Chili Supper was held on the 18th, and the Public Safety Awards
Banquet was held on the 25th. The Citizen’s Police Academy had 36 applicants and we took 22
out of the 36.
Member Scanlon asked about the new Communications Officer positions. Major Foster stated
that we are hiring 2 as of right now.
Captain Hawkins stated that the next Coffee with a Cop will be at the new McAlister’s Deli on
24th during lunch time.
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ITEM 5, being:
DISCUSSION REGARDING PHASE III RADIO CONSULTANTS AND RADIO SYSTEM
UPDATE WITH PRESENTATION OF NEW EQUIPMENT
This was moved to the end of the meeting. Major Teuscher stated that all of the different radios
will be on hand to see. He reminded the Committee of the two sites that we are still currently
building. The Animal Welfare site has hit a problem with the height with the FAA. The airport
has concerns for receiving future grants after giving up some of their airspace. We do not have
Goldsby support as of yet. We are doing research with Harris to see if we need the 300’ or if we
can do with the 245’. He also stated that we need to get approval from the Oklahoma
Aeronautical Association. The Northeast project has no issues. One of the water tower sites is
completed and the one on 36th and Tecumseh we are still working on. We do have permission
for soil samples at the other two sites.
Member Greenleaf asked if we are still dealing with approval from the tribes. Major Teuscher
stated that we are still dealing with their approval for the two new sites but the others have been
approved.
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ITEM 6, being
UPDATE ON EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER (EOC) PROJECT
Major Foster gave the report. He stated that we have a contract and are ready to present it to
Council and then bid it out. It will not go to Council next week, but soon.
Citizens Public Safety Oversight Committee Minutes
February 8, 2018
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ITEM 7, being
DISCUSS FIRE APPARATUS REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE
Chief King gave the report. He stated that we have been looking at the department’s equipment
needs over the next three fiscal years. There are some apparatus on the schedule for the next
three fiscal years that we do not believe we need just yet. Due to this, we have put together a
presentation showing the schedule and how we would like to change this. Over the next three
fiscal years we are scheduled to purchase an air supply unit, a command vehicle engine, a tanker,
and a heavy rescue vehicle with a total budget of $2.5 million. The next ISO audit will be in
2019/2020 and over time the needs of the Fire Department change. Our 2-5 rating could be in
jeopardy, so this new plan will seek to address the changes we will need to keep the rating. $1.4
million could be used to purchase 2 pumper tankers, which would be for stations 5 and 6.
Chair Sims asked about road problems with a tanker that big. Chief King stated that Public
Works has repaved a lot of roads out east, and we are going to start responding to medical calls
with our brush pumpers.
Chief King also stated that we would like to purchase a $1 million 107’ ladder on the west side
of town that would fit in station 2. Currently we have 2 tankers at stations 8 and 9 that are both
3,000 gallons. We also currently have 2 engines at stations 5 and 6. In the future we would like
to reassign engines at stations 5 and 6 to other stations, raise the water supply in East Norman,
and open a West Norman ladder company.
Member Greenleaf asked if we only have 1 heavy rescue vehicle. Chief King stated that this was
true, but we do have plans to add another one that should be on the ground in May or June.
Member Scanlon asked about the budget implications of this schedule change. Chief King stated
that some inflation has been built into these costs, but our goal is still to come in under the
proposed budget. Suzanne Krohmer stated that a sheet was handed out with the packets that
showed the budget implications of this plan. The difference between what was originally planned
and the proposed schedule is over $1.8 million. Chief King stated that he would rather wait a
year for the funding to get these items that are actually needed than purchase the already planned
aerial unit.
Member Costello asked when the Public Safety Sales Tax would fall off. Chief King stated that
the second one is permanent, but it does merge with the General Fund 12 years after its
beginning.
Every member of this Committee stated their support of this change to the purchase schedule.
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Citizens Public Safety Oversight Committee Minutes
February 8, 2018
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Item 8, being
ESTABLISH AGENDA TOPICS FOR THE NEXT MARCH 8, 2018 MEETING
Member Greenleaf asked if we needed to discuss the recent death at the jail. Chair Sims stated
that this does not fall into the wheel-house of the PSST Committee.
Next meeting will just include the EOC, Radio update, and the Communications Officer update.
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Item 9, being
MISCELLANEOUS COMMENTS
Major Teuscher introduced Mark Bechtel as the new Animal Welfare Center Manager. Mark
stated that he comes from a zoo background and has been with the OKC zoo for 5 years. He is
glad to be with the City of Norman and is looking forward to putting his background to use here.
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Item 10, being
ADJOURNMENT
Member Price made a motion to adjourn the meeting, which motion was duly seconded by Member
Goth; a vote was taken with the following result:
YEAS: Members Lea Greenleaf, Linda Price, Joan
Goth, Bill Scanlon, Chair Eddie Sims, Jim
Costello, and Melanie Hayes
NAYES: None
Meeting adjourned at 4:53 pm.
Agenda
Citizens Public Safety Oversight Committee
Police Department
Briefing Room
201 W. Gray Street, Building B
February 8, 2018
4:00 p.m.
AGENDA
1. Call to Order
2. Introduction of staff and guests
3. Approval of Minutes of January 11, 2018 Meeting
4. Monthly Updates
Finance
Fire Department
Police Department
5. Discussion regarding Phase III Radio Consultants and radio system
update with presentation of new equipment
6. Update on Emergency Operations Center (EOC) Project
7. Discuss Fire Apparatus Replacement Schedule
8. Establish Agenda Topics for the next March 8th, 2018 Meeting
9. Miscellaneous Comments
10.Adjournment
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