City Council & Board of Education Ad Hoc Committee
Regular MeetingNorwich, CT · March 13, 2020
Minutes
SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES
CITY COUNCIL AND BOARD OF EDUCATION
AD HOC COMMITTEE
Friday, March 13, 2020
Norwich City Hall - Room 335
100 Broadway, Norwich
6:15 PM
Committee members present:
Norwich City Council: Alderman Mark M. Bettencourt, Alderman Joseph A.
DeLucia, Alderwoman Stacy Gould
Norwich Board of Education: Swarnjit Singh Bhatia, Carline Charmelus,
Christine DiStasio, Yvette Jacaruso, Mark Kulos, Heather Romanski @ 6:34 PM,
Patricia Staley
Committee members absent: none
Ex-officio members and Staff present: John Salomone – Norwich City Manager,
Josh Pothier – Comptroller
Citizens and Others Present: Claire Bessette-New London Day paper, Bill
Kenny-Bulletin paper, Alderman Derell Q. Wilson.
1. Call to Order and Quorum: Alderman DeLucia called the meeting to order at
6:17 PM. There was a quorum present.
2. Introductions: Alderman DeLucia asked for introductions. The committee
members introduced themselves for the record.
3. Election of a Chairperson: Alderman DeLucia asked for nominations of a
committee chairperson. Mr. Kulos nominated Alderman DeLucia. The nomination
was seconded by Alderman Bettencourt. There were no other nominations.
Alderman DeLucia called for a vote on the nomination which was unanimously
approved.
4. Election of a Vice-Chairperson: Alderman DeLucia asked for nominations of a
committee vice-chairperson. Ms. Staley nominated Alderwoman Gould. The
nomination was seconded by Ms. DiStasio. There were no other nominations.
Alderman DeLucia called for a vote on the nomination which was unanimously
approved.
5. Election of a Recording Secretary: Alderman DeLucia asked for nominations of
a recording secretary. Ms. Gould nominated Ms. DiStasio. The nomination was
seconded by Alderman DeLucia. There were no other nominations. Alderman
DeLucia called for a vote on the nomination which was unanimously approved.
6. Citizen Comment-1: Alderman DeLucia called for citizen comment. There was
none offered.
7. New Business:
a. Review of the Purpose and Scope of Ad Hoc Committee: Alderman
DeLucia stated the city’s Corporation Counsel, Atty. Michael Driscoll had
made it clear that this committee cannot set mandates for the Board of
Education, heretofore known as the BOE. The committee’s purpose is for an
open discussion re: the budget for the Norwich Public Schools, heretofore
referred to as NPS. Mr. Kulos commented that he is in favor of the
formation of the committee, as did Mr. Singh, and Ms. Jacaruso, saying that
it will encourage open lines of communication between the BOE and City
Council, hence transparency. Mr. Bettencourt expressed that he was in
agreement and mentioned an article written by Ms. Bessette regarding the
BOE acknowledging budget limits and still meeting the needs of our NPS.
Ms. Gould was also in agreement that the new BOE leadership, including
our Superintendent, Dr. Kristen Stringfellow, heretofore referred to as SOS,
is making things more transparent. Ms. Romanski said that she knows the
SOS is putting great effort into creating a budget that works. Ms. Staley
commented; “it won’t be fixed in one year.”
b. Review of 2020-21 Education Budget Draft and Related Documents: Mr.
Kulos reviewed the Long-Term Plan that the SOS presented to the BOE at
their last meeting on 3/10/20. Discussion followed. Mr. DeLucia and Mr.
Kulos then reviewed all remaining forms that had been given to the BOE by
the SOS that contained information relevant to the budget. Mr. DeLucia
wants to ensure that all members of the Council have the most recent
information and will have copies made.
There was more discussion re: the feasibility of the increase requested and
how it would affect the city budget and taxpayers as a whole. Mr. DeLucia
said that the 9.34% increase requested is actually much more. He would like
to know how many dollars this is equal to and what that figure represents.
Mr. Kulos reviewed the grants, the ESC contribution and funding. There was
discussion re: when the grants expire and the need to know that information
for budget purposes. Ms. Gould stressed the need to know the expiration
dates for the grants NPS has received. She also discussed the timeline for
when we receive the state’s contribution verses when the budget is due for
submission to the City Council.
Ms. Romanski was charged with having all documents received from the
SOS dated and forwarded to Mr. DeLucia for dispersal to the City Council.
Alderman DeLucia began a discussion regarding the ten questions he
submitted to the SOS that reference the budget documents. In reference to
questions #8, #9 and #10, Mr. DeLucia, as well as Ms. Gould questioned the
hiring of a new Payroll Manager and Human Resource Manager for the NPS
Central Office, and whether there was a true need for these positions. Mr.
DeLucia asked the City Manager, Mr. Salomone, who was in the audience,
if any discussion had been had with him prior to these hirings. He responded
in the negative. At this time, several members reiterated that the SOS does
not have to consult with anyone else when making hiring decisions within
her department. Also mentioned by several members of the BOE was the
need to update the antiquated systems, within the Central Office, that this
SOS inherited, with the hope that the improvements and new hires would
increase the overall efficiency of said department. One such system is the
Munis system that was installed months ago, but continues to have glitches.
When Ms. DiStasio stated that Munis representatives were actually here this
week to work on the system, Mr. Joshua Pothier, who was in the audience,
concurred.
Both Mr. DeLucia and Ms. Gould both suggested that the possibility of job
sharing might have occurred in reference to the new hires, or the placement
of a payroll clerk position in City Hall dedicated to NPS. Mr. Kulos stated
that with the new hires, overtime that was being worked by Central Office
staff to fulfill the HR and Payroll duties was eradicated, and costly mistakes
eliminated, hopefully culminating in savings in the long run. Ms. Gould
questioned whether the savings equal the pay and benefits of the new hires.
In reference to question #1 re: an early retirement incentive being offered to
NPS teachers, Ms. Romanski stated that because of the low number of
teachers likely to qualify, the SOS felt she would look for savings elsewhere
at this time.
Discussion on shared services throughout the city when it comes to
maintenance. Mr. DeLucia commented that there would be difficulty with
that proposal because of the various unions that represent the city’s
employees.
Discussion on question #6: The Transportation Coordinator position the
SOS has included in the budget. Ms. DiStasio explained that one of the
responsibilities of this position, which is now carried out by the NPS
Business Manager, Athena Nagel, and the SOS, would be responding to
incidents of disruptive behavior on the buses, occurring when students are
being transported to and from school. The SOS has mentioned that there
may exist a possibility of sharing buses, for our students that attend
programs out of district, with neighboring towns. She has already been
approached by at least two. If this occurs, the sharing would have to be
coordinated and this would be another duty that the new hire would perform
and could also result in a cost savings.
c. Discussion of Next Steps: Mr. DeLucia proposed that the questions he
compiled be forwarded to the SOS, who along with Ms. Nagel, will be
present at the next meeting on 3/20, to enable her to give more in depth
answers.
8. Items for Next Meeting Agenda:
a. Discussion of submitted questions.
b. Discussion and possible action on recommendations for March 23rd BOE
Budget meeting.
9. Citizen Comment-2: Mr. DeLucia called for citizen comment.
Bill Kenny, of Lincoln Ave., asked that the committee please keep in mind that
what we are doing now, sets the tone and direction for the “reincarnation of the
city”.
10.Schedule of Future Meeting(s): The committee then discussed the timing for the
next meeting in relation to when the budget needs to be submitted to the City
Council and reached a consensus that the meeting would be held Friday, March 20
at 6:30 PM in room 335 in City Hall.
11.Adjournment: Upon a motion by Alderman Bettencourt and seconded by
Alderwoman Gould, the committee unanimously voted to adjourn at 7:58 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Christine DiStasio
Recording Secretary
Agenda
SPECIAL MEETING AGENDA
CITY COUNCIL AND BOARD OF EDUCATION
AD HOC COMMITTEE
Friday, March 13, 2020
**Norwich City Hall (new location)
**Room 335
**100 Broadway, Norwich
**6:15pm (new time)
**change of location and time
1. Call to Order - Quorum (5)
2. Introductions
3. Election of a Chairperson
4. Election of a Vice-Chairperson
5. Election of a Recording Secretary
6. Citizen Comment - 1
7. New Business
a. Review of Purpose and Scope of Ad Hoc Committee
b. Review of 2020-21 Education Budget Draft & Related Documents
c. Discussion of Next Steps
8. Items for next meeting agenda
9. Citizen Comment - 2
10. Schedule of future meeting(s)
11. Adjournment
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