Commission on the City Plan
Regular MeetingNorwich, CT · November 16, 2010
Minutes
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MINUTES
COMMISSION ON THE CITY PLAN
Tuesday November 16, 2010 - 7:00 P.M.
23 UNION STREET NORWICH CONNECTICUT
LOWER LEVEL CONFERENCE ROOM
REGULAR MEETING
AGENDA ITEMS A, B & C – CALL TO ORDER, ROLL CALL, DETERMINATION OF
QUORUM:
Art Sharron called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m.
Commission Members Present: Arthur Sharron, Frank Manfredi, P Michael Lahan, Les King,
and John Mathieu. A quorum was present.
Absent: Ralph Page and Jeremy Booty
Also Present: Peter Davis, Director, Michael Schaefer, City Planner and Jacquie Barbarossa,
Recording Secretary
D. APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES:
Upon motion by Les King and second by John Mathieu, the Commission voted unanimously to
APPROVE the minutes of the 10/19/2010 Regular meeting.
E. COMMUNICATIONS: NONE
Motion by Frank Manfredi to suspend rules to take items out of order, second by Les
King – unanimous– RULES SUSPENDED.
F. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
1. SUB #421 – 59.7 acres of land comprised of the following three parcels:
South side White Plains Road, Map 17, Block 1, Lot 9, Norwichtown
Development LLC, owner; 115 Hansen Road, Map 22, Block 1, Lot 10,
Norwichtown Development LLC, owner; West side Scotland Road, Map
23, Block 1, Lots 1-3, Norwichtown Development LLC, owner;– Application
of Norwichtown Development LLC for 16- lot Re-Subdivision in an R-80 zoning
district and owned by the owned by the applicant.
Arthur Sharron opened the hearing. Frank Manfredi and Michael Lahan recused themselves.
Peter Davis entered exhibits “GG” – certified, highlighted sightline plan showing all ledge and
tree removal will be in the City right-of-way and item “HH” an email from the City Engineer
stating he had reviewed the plan and an adequate sightline can be achieved within the right of
way.
Les King asked if the City Engineer had reviewed the drainage report and access drive to
retention basin. Mr. Davis confirmed that he had.
As there were no questions from the Commission, Art Sharron opened the floor to public
comment.
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Speaking in favor was:
Patrick Lafayette from Development Solutions
Mr. Lafayette stated the biggest outstanding item was the Sight Line Plan that has been
certified to A-2 standards and that the City Engineer has accepted. He stated they found
existing pins in the field from the old subdivision and it coincides with what had been previously
presented. Mr. Lafayette asked for a waiver of sidewalks making the road wider and adding a
pedestrian/bike path instead. Peter Davis stated he would prefer the sidewalks remain on one
side since there was no way of knowing how many school children would be in the
neighborhood and where the bus stops would be.
Speaking in opposition was:
Barbara Doherty 111 Hansen Rd.
Ms. Doherty read a letter to the Commission, which was entered as exhibit “II”.
John Mathieu made a motion to close the hearing, seconded by Les King. Frank
Manfredi and Michael Lahan were recused – HEARING CLOSED.
G. OLD BUSINESS:
1. SUB #421 – 59.7 acres of land comprised of the following three parcels:
South side White Plains Road, Map 17, Block 1, Lot 9, Norwichtown
Development LLC, owner; 115 Hansen Road, Map 22, Block 1, Lot 10,
Norwichtown Development LLC, owner; West side Scotland Road, Map
23, Block 1, Lots 1-3, Norwichtown Development LLC, owner;– Application
of Norwichtown Development LLC for 16- lot Re-Subdivision in an R-80 zoning
district and owned by the owned by the applicant.
Art Sharron recommended postponing a vote to the next CCP scheduled meeting
since only 2 members had reviewed the entire record.
Motion by Les King to TABLE – seconded by John Mathieu, Frank Manfredi and
Michael Lahan were recused - approved - TABLED.
H: NEW BUSINESS:
1. SUB#422 – 24 Hammond Ave. – Application of Hammond Ledge, LLC for a 4-lot
Subdivision located in an R-40 zoning district and owned by the applicant.
Normand Thibeault, from Killingly Engineering gave a brief presentation on the site. He stated
the site consists of 14 acres and is steeply sloped. He stated that 109,000 cubic yards of
material will be removed and that no building permits will be issued until the excavation is
completed. The road will be roughed out and there will be temporary sedimentation basins
with benching of the hill and the existing drainage patterns will remain intact. The sites will
have City water and sewer service. He explained that each house would have individual
grinder pumps in place and how they worked. A waiver of sidewalks on the eastern side of the
street was requested, since there will be no homes on that side. Mr. Thibeault stated that 65%
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of the property would remain wooded. He stated that staff’s questions and concerns had been
addressed and reflected on the plans. He requested phasing of the bond with $205,050 being
posted initially with a request of partial release when excavation is complete. Mike Schaefer
stated he had discussed with the City Engineer and he had no objections to handling the bond
in that manner.
Les King questioned the timing of the excavation, the condition of the existing road and
stabilizing of the hill. Mike Schaefer stated that monthly reports during excavation would be
required.
Mr. Schaefer also stated that NPU would need to approve the final sewer/water connections.
He also stated that the subdivision had received IWWCC approval In October.
Motion by Frank Manfredi to approve with sidewalk waiver on east side, phased bond in the
amount of $205,050 and NPU approval of water/sewer connections. Seconded by John
Mathieu – unanimous – APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS.
2. SDP#897C - Modification - 285 Taftville-Occum Road- Hills at Riverview LLC
for construction of residential units located in an MF zoning district and owned
by the applicant.
Mike Schafer stated that several items were outstanding and suggested tabling.
Motion by Les King to TABLE – seconded by John Mathieu, approved - TABLED.
3. Appointment of two CCP members to the Plan of Conversation &
Development Update subcommittee
Peter Davis stated the Chairman had requested a postponement until December since
he wanted to participate in the discussion and was unable to attend tonight’s meeting.
Motion by Les King to TABLE – seconded by John Mathieu, approved - TABLED.
I: EXTENSIONS: NONE
J: BOND RELEASES:
1. SUB #414 – 180 Plain Hill Rd – Request of Roy Fleming for partial release of
bond in the amount of $50,000.00 leaving a balance of $5,350
Mike Schaefer and Barry Ellison had visited the site and the majority of the work had been
completed satisfactorily. However, an as-built survey, monumentation and signage/painting of
stop bar need to be completed.
Les King made a motion for a partial release of bond in the amount of $50,000, John Mathieu
seconded-unanimous- PARTIAL RELEASE OF BOND.
K. ZONING MATTERS: NONE
H. OTHER BUSINESS:
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Presentation by William Champagne, President of The Norwich Historical
Society, “Norwich, Connecticut Neighborhoods”.
Bill Champagne handed out copies of Norwich, Connecticut Historic Neighborhoods prepared
by Rachel Carley, Historic Preservation Consultant. He gave a brief summary of the highlights
and asked the Commission for their support.
M. ADJOURNMENT
Upon motion by Michael Lahan, and seconded by Les King, Commission voted unanimously to
adjourn the meeting at 8:05 pm.
Respectfully submitted,
Jacquie Barbarossa, Recording Secretary
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Agenda
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COMMISSION ON THE CITY PLAN
Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 7:00 P.M.
23 UNION STREET NORWICH CONNECTICUT
LOWER LEVEL CONFERENCE ROOM
REGULAR MEETING
AGENDA
A. CALL TO ORDER
B. ROLL CALL
C. DETERMINATION OF QUORUM
D. APPROVAL OF October 19, 2010 REGULAR MEETING MINUTES
E. COMMUNICATIONS: TBD
F. HEARINGS:
1. SUB #421 – CONTINUED from 10/19/10 - 59.7 acres of land comprised of
the following three parcels: South side White Plains Road, Map 17, Block
1, Lot 9, Norwichtown Development LLC, owner; 115 Hansen Road, Map
22, Block 1, Lot 10, Norwichtown Development LLC, owner; West side
Scotland Road, Map 23, Block 1, Lots 1-3, Norwichtown Development
LLC, owner - Application of Norwichtown Development LLC for 16-lot Re-
Subdivision in an R-80 zoning district and owned by the owned by the
applicant.
G. OLD BUSINESS:
1. SUB #421 – 59.7 acres of land comprised of the following three parcels:
South side White Plains Road, Map 17, Block 1, Lot 9, Norwichtown
Development LLC, owner; 115 Hansen Road, Map 22, Block 1, Lot 10,
Norwichtown Development LLC, owner; West side Scotland Road, Map
23, Block 1, Lots 1-3, Norwichtown Development LLC, owner – Application
of Norwichtown Development LLC for 16-lot Re-Subdivision in an R-80 zoning
district and owned by the owned by the applicant.
H. NEW BUSINESS:
1. SUB#422 – 24 Hammond Ave. – Application of Hammond Ledge, LLC for a 4-
lot Subdivision located in an R-40 zoning district and owned by the applicant.
2. SDP#897C - Modification - 285 Taftville-Occum Road- Hills at Riverview
LLC for construction of residential units located in an MF zoning district and
owned by the applicant.
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3. Appointment of two CCP members to the Plan of Conversation &
Development Update subcommittee
I. EXTENSIONS: NONE
J. BOND RELEASES:
1. SUB #414 – 180 Plain Hill Rd – Request of Roy Fleming for partial release of
bond in the amount of $50,000.00 leaving a balance of $5,350
K. ZONING MATTERS: NONE
L. OTHER BUSINESS:
Presentation by William Champagne, President of The Norwich Historical
Society, “Norwich, Connecticut Neighborhoods”.
M. ADJOURNMENT
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