Community Development Advisory Committee
Regular MeetingNorwich, CT · May 20, 2009
Minutes
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING
MAY 20, 2009
3:00 P.M.
Members Present: Vice-Chairperson Les King, Red McKeon, John Mathieu, Lynn
Norris, and Tamara Lanier
Others Present: Fire Chief Scandariato, YMCA Board Chairperson Denise
Magario and member Ross Anderson
Vice-Chairperson Les King called the CDAC meeting to order at 3:08 p.m.
Red McKeon made a motion seconded by John Mathieu to accept the May 6,
2009 minutes. Motion carried unanimously.
Greeneville Fire Station
Fire Chief Scandariato gave a presentation to the committee for the $115,000
funds he had requested to rehab the Greeneville Fire Station from CDBG PY 35.
His application had been withdrawn due to the fact that the items on it had been
funded through CDBG and the capital budget. The chief wanted an application
for Greeneville Fire Station, with new activity items, to be active. He handed out
an Action Plan with a priority list of items for which he requests funding To date
from CDBG and other sources the City has invested over $200,000 on
renovations. (Note: The $200,000 referenced is since Chief Scandariato’s tenure,
an additional amount funded a roof project at the building prior to the Chief’s
tenure)
An analysis of the building has been done and the previous request was made
for $115,000 for a boiler replacement and continuation and completion of the
exterior repointing of the firehouse. The application was made and between the
application time and the current time, the boiler became non-operational and a
replacement was funded through CDBG on an emergency basis. The masonry
was funded in the City’s Capital budget.
Chief Scandariato brought photographs to show the committee the poor
conditions present at the Greeneville Fire Station.
The Chief requests roughly $453,000 for various activities. Evidence of moisture
damage has impacted the walls on the first floor and the basement. The plaster
is crumbling off the interior walls. The required rear exit basement door doesn’t
operate properly.
With their present heating system it was costing $7,000 - $8,000 a month in the
winter to heat. Chief Scandariato would like to cut this system down and put a
high single gas fired furnace in the corner. Replacing this unit on the first floor
because the boiler doesn’t service the first floor. To run a hot water system
throughout the entire structure is not cost effective. A gas furnace would raise
the temperature faster downstairs.
Upstairs the renovated kitchen has a stain on the ceiling.
The new fire trucks are much heavier than the older ones and consequently the
floor needs reinforcement. The building has been evaluated and the floor refitted
for the heavier weights.
Tamara Lanier asked what the structural integrity of the building was. The fire
station needs to be reinforced under the floor.
On an issue related to the façade and future use, the Chief noted that the front
opening is small for modern trucks and he may later propose to alter the opening.
Jennifer Gottlieb said that in reference to the façade, a preservation restriction
will be placed on the façade due to a recent state grant for the structure from the
Department of Culture and Tourism. Jennifer Gottlieb said that the City may be
able to remove the restriction by paying back the State $50,000, but is not certain
that the restriction could be removed.
The Fire Dept. anticipates having a balance of $34,000 on the books after the
completion of the rehab because he came in under budget from the Rehab and
the lighting projects.
YMCA
Ross Anderson and Denise Magario represented the YMCA. Ross Anderson
brought the committee up to date. The YMCA has closed. A working committee
of the Board that is trying to reopen the YMCA met yesterday with the Ocean
Community YMCA in Westerly that rehabbed the Mystic Community Center.
They manage other operations for other organizations such as Fisher Island
Community Center. They are exploring the possibility of a partnership with this
organization that would save administrative funds and offer capable
management. The YMCA will still be responsible for their own debt and will not
benefit from a merger. The YMCA would pay a fee for managing the Center,
hiring a director and a branch officer.
In regard to other partnerships, TVCCA may be interested in renting the daycare
space. NFA is willing to negotiate paying higher fees for the pool use, based on
what they would have to pay to use another pool, such as the one at Avery Point.
The YMCA pool is the only local pool. Opening the building for community space
is very critical. They will need to have a positive fundraising campaign to open.
The YMCA is interested in selling the camp in North Stonington and has a party
interested, even before they have advertised publicly. This would alleviate some
of their debt.
The YMCA would like to be considered for the $128,000 from PY 35 for the
heating system. Both boilers are shut off. They can’t reopen without the boiler.
They have a committed private donor $50,000 to contribute to this project.
The Board is meeting weekly. They need the support from the City that would
make a significant positive impact in their efforts to reopen. They’ve been
working towards a June 5th deadline for a report.
Jennifer said that the CDAC could conditionally approve it but the project
wouldn’t be put out to bid. The CDAC would reserve the right to not put the
project out to bid until an acceptable and guaranteed plan for reopening was
approved. The project could not be done in a building that may not reopen. The
Committee would like to see legal agreements with Ocean Community YMCA
and/or other partners proposed.
Jennifer Gottlieb said that the CDBG regulations dictate that to eligible, an
activity must benefits at least 51% low –moderate-income people. Recreational
facilities that benefit a majority that is other than that group are not eligible.
Childcare and homeless rooms would be eligible and these were considered by
the committee as essential services. She found it concerning that the YMCA’s
current plan neglected the Childcare Center and the SRO rooms because the
importance of those activities were the reason the committee entertained the
application, not for a pool or gym. Ross Anderson said that the YMCA could
document who have been using the facility through membership as well as
programs and it would be well above 50% low to moderate individuals. (Note:
this documentation could only take place after the fact since there is no program
operational). The committee minutes reflect that the committee only entertained
the application due to the importance of “essential services” and they did not
consider the pool to be the essential service. The Childcare Center and SRO
rooms were the essential services. It is an open question if that motion is still
valid if the pool is the only thing proposed.
Ross said that the YMCA needed to rebuild the organization based upon
sustainability and not based around the requirements for CDBG. Jennifer replied
that this was true but to access the CDBG funds, you must comply with the
requirements of the grant.
The Friends of the Y are working on a pledge of membership. Ross Anderson
said that he didn’t think he could come up with an agreement with the Ocean
Community Y within the next two weeks. They also don’t have anything signed
with NFA. Ross Anderson will ask if they can get a written commitment. They
have $50,000 committed and $15,000 from another foundation that continuously
give funding to the summer camp and they don’t want it back this year.
The Council will have to vote on the PY 35 recommendations no later than the
second Council meeting in June 15, 2009.
Motion was made by John Mathieu, seconded by Red McKeon that the
funding that they provisional had set aside to look at the YMCA be
rescinded because of ineligible funding and restrictions on the CDBG-R
Stimulus funds. Motion carried unanimously. Because it doesn’t meet the
timing that is required the committee would like to consider the YMCA
under the PY 35 requests.
Norwich Housing Authority
Charles Whitty sent a letter stating that he wanted funds for the bathroom
considered for CDBG-R Stimulus funds. Jennifer Gottlieb sent him a letter
informing him that his application would also be considered for PY 35 as well as
CDBG-R Stimulus funds.
Norwich Public Works - Thamesville Sidewalks
John Mathieu said that if they don’t do the sidewalks in the City the people
wouldn’t be able to walk on them. Les King stated that they’ve funded
Thamesville sidewalks in the past. They did Greeneville and then running up and
down Thamesville. There also are the car dealerships in the vicinity. With a
request for $200,000 the committee felt they didn’t have enough funds to do the
job completely and the committee didn’t want to give a limited amount of money
to a large number of applicants.
SCADD
Tamara Lanier said there was previous stated concerns on SCADD’s application
on eligibility. They should they have applied to the Property Rehab Program.
There is no written rule on this but the CD office has a Property Rehab Program
and they should go through that to avoid inconsistent rules applied to other
investor owners who comply with the share requirement of eth Rehab program.
The committee asked the staff to come up with a written rule so this type of
application did not come up again.
Motion was made by John Mathieu and seconded by Lynn Norris not to
fund the SCADD Liberty House Roof Replacement for CDBG PY 35 or
CDBG-R Stimulus funds, and they could apply to the Rehab Program.
Motion carried unanimously.
TODAP
They were requesting funding for the exhaust at TODAP for their food pantry so
they could provide hot foods. When asked if they could use less funds they had
said they needed all of the funds.
CD 26 Shipping Street
The original amount requested was $87,000 and this amount could be reduced to
$30,000 for the roof. The application is changing from masonry to add more
money to finish the roof. This is an empty city owned building not being used
now.
Reliance House
The Reliance House is requesting roughly $50,000, rather than the amount
originally listed because that is the price estimate given by their consultant for
what it will cost to do all the lead stabilization work necessary. Last year, they
were given funds for a window replacement job they could not complete because
they must address the lead hazard at the property while doing the windows due
to HUD’s “lead safe” rule. They can still run their program without completing this
work but if they use any HUD funds, they have to do the whole project, due the
requirements of the lead safe rule.
Stimulus Funds
The City has received $269,000 in CDBG-R Stimulus funds, and will use
$26,000 of those funds for Administration. The Action Plan for these funds is due
to HUD by June 5, 2009. The CDBG-R Stimulus funds Act does not allow
funding recreational projects or pools. The Act encourages funding projects that
will create or maintain jobs (temporary jobs are acceptable), promote energy
efficiency, help those people most affected by the recession and foster economic
independence.
John Mathieu made a motion seconded by Lynn Norris to fund the Norwich
Public Schools Energy Efficiency $33,250, Greeneville Firehouse Rehab
$147,000, Norwich Housing Authority $62,750, and administration $26,000
from the CDBG-R Stimulus funds. Motion carried unanimously.
Motion was by John Mathieu and seconded by Tamara Lanier to reallocate
$25,000 from PY 32 Greeneville Fire Rehab to Greeneville Fire Dept. and
$9,000 from the Fire Dept. Lighting Efficiency job balance to the Greeneville
Fire Dept. Rehab to do C1 Structural Repairs/upgrades to flooring & 2
Epoxy concrete floor.
The next CDAC meeting is scheduled for Wednesday, May 27, 2009 3:00 p.m.
Motion was made by John Mathieu seconded by Red McKeon to adjourn.
Motion carried unanimously. The meeting ended at 4:57 p.m.
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