Historic District Commission
Regular MeetingNorwich, CT · August 18, 2011
Minutes
HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION, NORWICH, CONNECTICUT
18 August 2011
The regular meeting of the Norwich Historic District Commission was held on 18 August 2011
in Room 335, Norwich City Hall at 5 p.m.
Members Present:
Malcolm Edgar, Chairman
Robert Champagne
Judith Hamblen
Gideon Loewenstein
Pam Muccilli
Cort Murphy
Absent: Marco Middleton
Nancy O’Neil
Other Attendees: Dion DeVega - Contractor
Sue Caplet – Reliance House Property Manager
The public hearing was convened at 5:00.
I. HEARING – COA # 278 – Reliance House
81 Union Street
Replacement of windows
Mr. Deon DeVega advised the commission that his presentation would be based on his original
COA application #278 which had not previously been presented. The board agreed to
accommodate the request, thereby nullifying COA #278.
DeVega then made his presentation for the replacement of windows at 81 Union Street,
providing photographs of the structure and examples of the windows to be used in the project.
He advised that he does not yet have a complete cost comparison for the choices available.
The group discussed their preference for six-over-six windows rather than the proposed one-
over-one. They agreed that six-over sixes would be more aesthetically appropriate for the
structure. They concurred that aluminum clad windows with wooden sashes and interior muntins
would be a reasonable alternative. Mr. DeVega again said he had no data on the costs for the
alternatives, but would try to get the information as quickly as possible with the hope of moving
ahead with the project.
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II. REGULAR MEETING
The regular meeting convened following the COA presentation.
A. Vote on COA #278
The commission reviewed the alternatives presented with COA # 278 and concurred
that it was important that all windows visible from the street would have the same
appearance as those on the front of the structure.
Motion was made by P. Muccilli and seconded by G. Loewenstein that COA # 278 be
approved with the following provisions:
The windows installed on the sides and rear of the house will be equal to the
standards and appearance of those installed at the front of the house, wooden
sashed, aluminum clad, six-over-six windows with interior grids and half screens.
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In discussion prior to vote, the details of Mr. DeVega’s presentation were reviewed
again, particularly the financial restrictions of the non-profit organization. Also, the
consideration of residential factors such as the use of window air conditioners. The
group ultimately agreed that the motion made was too restrictive. Ms Muccilli moved
to rescind the motion; J. Hamblen seconded. Motion to rescind was approved
unanimously.
Motion was then made by P. Muccilli, seconded by G. Loewenstein that COA #278
be approved as follows:
That COA #278 be approved with the preferred choice for replacement being
wooden sashed, aluminum clad, six-over-six windows with interior grids and half
screens.
The second choice to be all vinyl six-over-six windows with interior grids and
half screens.
If extreme financial hardship is proven, the last choice would be one-over-one all
aluminum windows with half screens.
In discussion prior to vote, members stated clearly that the inclusion of three options
was to accommodate the financial challenges particular to Reliance House, a non-
profit organization. The structure of the motion is not intended to set precedent for
non-profit organizations or consideration of financial restrictions.
With Mr. Murphy recusing himself from the vote, the motion was passed
unanimously.
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Mr. DeVega said he would obtain costs of the desired windows and contact Chairman
Edgar as soon as he had the information. Edgar agreed to keep the members
informed of any decision regarding final approval of this application.
B. Minutes
The minutes of the July meeting were approved as presented by unanimous vote.
C. Chairman’s Report
Edgar advised that the contractor completing the renovations at 202 Broadway wants
to add an apartment at the back of the building and is required by building codes to
install a window in a rear wall. Because the window is not visible from the street, it
would not be an issue for the commission. However, Edgar pointed out, this is an
example of a case when building code issues trump the Historic District Commission.
The owner of a house at 415 Washington Street asked Edgar about removing parts of
a deteriorated greenhouse at the rear of the structure, replacing them with two walls,
thereby creating a room. The consensus of the group was that the owner should
submit a COA for the work.
D. Old Business
Edgar met with the city zoning officer, Tianne Curtis. She has indicated that she is
willing to work with the commission, particularly in matters of signage and fences in
the historic districts.
On a related signage issue, Edgar met with the proprietor of the business at the corner
of Elm Avenue and Town Street where large and brightly colored signs had been
erected. The proprietor agreed to change both color and size of the signs.
A discussion followed concerning deteriorating real estate abutting historic districts.
Ms Muccilli said that it appears that windows are being replaced at the property at
193 Broadway. The COA previously submitted by the owners of the building did not
address any changes to windows. Dr. Edgar agreed to address the issue and advise of
the need for another COA application.
E. Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned at 5:50 p.m.
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On August 19, Mr. DeVega contacted Dr. Edgar by phone, reporting that he had
received cost estimates for the windows as detailed in the first option of COA #278.
Based on the estimates, the project can be completed with the preferred choice for
replacement being wooden sashed, aluminum clad, six-over-six windows with
interior grids and half screens.
The same day Dr. Edgar contacted all members in attendance at the meeting of
August 18, advising them of Mr. DeVega’s information. All confirmed that the
preferred choice was agreed to by the applicant. Thus, COA #278 is approved.
Dr. Edgar advised Mr. DeVega by phone that the project could be completed.
Respectfully submitted,
Malcolm S. Edgar, Chairman
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Agenda
NORWICH mSTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
AGENDA
Regular Meeting 5:00 p.m.
August 18, 2100
City Hall
Unrion Square
Room 319
I. Public Hearing COA # :190 Reliance House, Inc.
81 Union Street
Replacement of windows
II. Regular Meeting
A. Action on COA# 290
B. Minutes of the July Meeting
C. Old Business
D. New Business
E. Adjournment
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