Inland Wetlands, Water Courses & Conservation Commission
Regular MeetingNorwich, CT · February 7, 2008
Minutes
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CITY OF NORWICH
INLAND WETLANDS, WATERCOURSES AND
CONSERVATION COMMISSION
February 7, 2008 REGULAR MEETING MINUTES
Minutes of the regular meeting of the City of Norwich Inland Wetlands, Watercourses
and Conservation Commission held in the conference room at 23 Union Street,
Norwich, CT. on February 7, 2008.
Agenda Items A, B & C – Call To Order, Roll Call, Determination Of Quorum:
Chairman Raymond Baribeault called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
Present: Raymond Baribeault, Chairman Barbara Rothstein
Ralph Page Arthur Sharron, Alt.
Robert McCoy, Alt.
Absent with notification: Richard Morell, Vice Chairman, Douglas Lee, Jeremiah
Lowney, Brandon Hyde, Alt.
Also Present: Michael Schaefer, City Planner
Roberta Lane, Recording Secretary
A quorum was present and all members voted.
D. Minutes:
Upon motion by Barbara Rothstein and second by Ralph Page, the Commission
voted unanimously to APPROVE the minutes of the January 3, 2008 regular
meeting.
E. Communications:
1. Memo from State of CT DEP dated February 1, 2008 regarding aquatic
pesticide permit applications.
The Commission voted unanimously to ACCEPT the memo from the State of CT
DEP.
F. Public Hearings: None
G. Old Business:
1. IWWCC-07-09 – 88 Palmer Street – John Aldi – 27-condo units with
access driveways and associated site improvements.
Mr. Schaefer presented the proposed 27-unit condominium application and
explained that there is a manmade pond of approximately 3,500 square feet situated
within the wetlands near the center of the property. There are 11 units on the
eastern half of the site to the rear of the wetland and that a wetland/ watercourse
crossing is necessary to access them. A paved driveway of approximately 700 feet
in length, and ending in a looped turnaround, will provide for ingress and egress.
The applicant plans to span the crossing with a bridge and a bottomless arch culvert
will span the stream south of the pond. The proposed crossing will encumber
approximately 2,500 square feet of wetlands. This figure includes the area spanned
by the arch, which will not actually be disturbed, and will remain largely intact
(according to the applicant) to satisfy the design parameters acceptable to the US
Army Corps of Engineers under the PGP I level of permitting. Considerable
disturbance would take place in the upland review area. According to the report from
John Ianni, soil scientist, the pond is deep enough to support a warm water fish
population and it is not a viable vernal pool. The applicant has provided a
stormwater drainage system that includes a detention basin with riprap and crushed
stone and a pipe to prevent mosquito breeding. Mr. Schaefer advised that the site
would be served by municipal water and sewer. He advised that the applicant has
provided an erosion & sediment control plan that includes a construction entrance,
sediment basins, and perimeter sediment barriers. The stormwater management
planning was done in conference with the City Engineer. Most of the City Engineer’s
concerns were met. He advised that there is a landscaping plan with adequate
plantings and that some clearing will be done, since there is some heavily wooded
areas as well as lightly wooded areas. The Commission raised a concern about the
maintenance plan for post development. Mr. Schaefer advised that the erosion &
sediment plan stated that the condominium association would be responsible for the
maintenance after the project was completed. The plan indicated that the driveways
would be swept twice a year.
The Commission discussed the plan and upon motion by Arthur Sharron and second
by Ralph Page, the Commission voted unanimously to APPROVE the application
with the following conditions:
1. The applicant adhere to the underscored note on sheet 6 of 14- A
Professional Engineer To Be On Site For All Activity Pertaining To The
Wetland Crossing Construction and that the professional engineer
must certify to the Planning Department that the wetland crossing was
constructed to the design specifications.
2. All recommendations from the site plan review of Norwich Public
Utilities be implemented.
2. IWWCC – 07-11 – 111 Corning Road – FW Brown LLC – filling and
drainage to establish a small back yard.
Patrick Lafayette, P.E. of Development Solutions, LLC, representative for the
applicant, gave the drainage analysis report to Staff at the start of the meeting.
Mr. Schaefer presented this plan for a proposed 50-foot culvert installation on a
residential property to establish a small backyard for an existing house that has had
limited use of the back yard since the house was built in the 1970’s. Mr. Schaefer
presented pictures of the site to the Commission and advised that the applicant has
cleaned up much of the refuse, including a swimming pool and approximately 37
tires. Staff and the City Engineer had discussions with the applicant as to the
appropriate size of the HDPE pipe and suggested that instead of using a 24-inch
pipe, that a 30-inch or 36-inch pipe may be more suited for this plan. According to
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his report, Joseph R.Theroux, soil scientist, recommended the use of hay bales and
a silt fence along with proper erosion & sediment controls to minimize the wetlands
impact. Mr. Schaefer advised that the project should take place during the summer
season when water will be at its lowest to minimize the impact.
After much discussion and upon motion by Barbara Rothstein and second by Ralph
Page, the Commission voted unanimously to APPROVE the application with the
following conditions:
1. Work to be done during the summer months to minimize wetlands
impact.
2. Applicant to work with Staff on the pipe configuration.
3. No raised berm will be allowed over the pipe.
3. IWWCC- 07-13 – 180 Plain Hill Rd – Roy B Fleming - 4-lot
resubdivision with cul de sac.
Susan Camp, L.S. of Camp Land Surveyors, LLC, gave the Wetlands Impact
Assessment report from the project soil scientist to Staff at the start of the meeting.
Mr. Schaefer presented the plan for the proposed 4-lot resubdivision on a 21.33-acre
parcel with a wetland/watercourse crossing. There is one existing house on the site
and the crossing would allow for access to the 3 lots in the rear portion of the
property. Mr. Schaefer advised that he is waiting for more information regarding the
limits of clearing and more field data on the grading plan. He also has to review the
Wetlands Impact Assessment that was just handed out at the start of the meeting.
Mr. Schaefer also presented the comments from the City Engineer with regards to
the proposed location of the water quality basin in relation to the house on Lot #1.
The City Engineer suggested that the basin be moved closer to the wetlands and as
far away from any house site to minimize disruption to residents, since Public Works
will maintain this basin after the development is completed.
Susan Camp, L.S. of Camp Land Surveyors, LLC and Chuck Eaton, P.E. of CME
Associates addressed the Commission and advised that they would work with Staff
and the City Engineer regarding the concerns about narrowing the crossing and the
location of the stormwater basin.
The Commission discussed the unresolved issues of the plan and asked that the
representatives for the applicant return next month to present their updated plan.
Upon motion by Arthur Sharron and second by Ralph Page, the Commission voted
unanimously to TABLE the application until the March 6, 2008 meeting.
H. New Business: None
I. New Business items submitted after agenda preparation and prior to the
submission deadline:
1. IW-URA-08-03 – 9 Beckwith Street – Sheri Speer – construction of
multifamily dwelling and associated site improvements.
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Upon motion by Ralph Page and second by Barbara Rothstein, the Commission
voted unanimously to TABLE this application until the March 6, 2008 meeting.
J. Other Business:
1. Administrative Permits Issued:
1. IW-URA-08-01 (A)- 252 Old Canterbury Tpke
Mr. Schaefer informed the Commission that this permit was issued to move 6 mobile
homes at the Sunny Waters Park as they became available to do so.
2. IW-URA-08-02 (A)- Sub#326-Lot#5 Roaring Brook Estates
Subdivision –Rogers Rd
Mr. Schaefer informed the Commission that this permit was a reissuance of an
expired permit for a driveway.
K. Violations:
1. Kudlach - Cease and Desist Order - update
Mr. Schaefer advised the Commission that he has contacted the Army Corps of
Engineers regarding this violation.
2. 44 Yantic Flats Rd – new violation
Mr. Schaefer advised the Commission that he had received a complaint relating to
the deposition of fill that may be within the wetlands and/or floodplain area. He sent
a letter to the owner requesting permission to conduct a site examination and is
waiting for a response.
3. 285 Taftville Occum Rd- Cease and Desist Order
Mr. Schaefer informed the Commission that he had sent a cease and desist order to
the developers following a complaint from CT DOT. It is not known at this time if the
violations affect the wetlands area.
L. Adjournment:
Upon motion by Arthur Sharron & second by Ralph Page, the Commission voted
unanimously to adjourn at 7:50pm.
Respectfully submitted,
Roberta Lane
Recording Secretary
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Agenda
Revised
CITY OF NORWICH
INLAND WETLANDS, WATERCOURSES & CONSERVATION COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING – 23 UNION STREET – CONFERENCE ROOM
February 7, 2008 – 7:00 P.M.
AGENDA
A. Call to Order
B. Roll Call
C. Determination of Quorum
D. Approval of January 3, 2008 regular meeting minutes
E. Communications:
1. Memo from State of CT DEP dated February 1, 2008 regarding
aquatic pesticide permit applications
F. Public Hearings: None
G. Old Business:
1. IWWCC-07-09 – 88 Palmer Street – John Aldi – 27-condo units
with access driveways and associated site improvements.
2. IWWCC – 07-11 – 111 Corning Road – FW Brown LLC – filling and
drainage to establish a small back yard.
3. IWWCC- 07-13 – 180 Plain Hill Rd – Roy B Fleming - 4-lot
resubdivision with cul de sac.
H. New Business: None
I. New Business items submitted after agenda preparation and prior to
the submission deadline.
1. IW-URA-08-03 – 9 Beckwith Street – Sheri Speer – construction
of multifamily dwelling and associated site improvements.
J. Other Business:
1. Administrative Permits Issued:
1. IW-URA-08-01 (A)- 252 Old Canterbury Tpke
2. IW-URA-08-02 (A)- Sub#326-Lot#5 Roaring Brook Estates
Subdivision –Rogers Rd
K. Violations:
1. Updates
L. Adjournment
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