Zoning Board of Appeals
Regular MeetingNorwich, CT · August 9, 2022
Minutes
CITY OF NORWICH ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
August 9, 2022
Regular Meeting Minutes
Hybrid Meeting
ZOOM & Room 335, City Hall, Norwich
The regular meeting of the City of Norwich Zoning Board of Appeals was called to order
at 7:07 p.m. Roll call was taken.
PRESENT: Marc Benjamin, Chairman
David Martin
Robert Phoenix
Dorothy Travers (ZOOM)
Gregory Schlough
ABSENT: None
OTHERS: Richard Shuck, Zoning Enforcement Officer, and Katherine Rose,
Recording Secretary
Marc Benjamin called the meeting to order at 7:03 p.m. Marc Benjamin stated all
members would be voting on all matters.
A. COMMUNICATIONS: None.
B. ACCEPTANCE OF MINUTES: Robert Phoenix made a motion to accept the July
12, 2022 minutes with some corrections. Gregory Schlough seconded. All voted
in favor. The motion passed unanimously.
C. OLD BUSINESS: None.
D. NEW BUSINESS:
Robert Phoenix made a motion to hear application V#22-05 before application
V#22-04 due to attendance. Gregory Schlough seconded. All voted in favor. The
motion passed unanimously.
1. V# 22-04: 1-59 Forest View Drive (AKA 214 Vergason Ave Ext.);
Request for Use Variance to ZR Sec. 4.1.1, Conformity Requirements;
to permit use of the property for development of up to 24 additional
dwelling units in in the existing condominium development within the
Business Park Zone. Property of Forest Land Investment, LLC.
Application of Forest Land Investment, LLC. Assessors Map # 034,
Block # 001 Lots # 038
The applicant was not in attendance.
2. V#22-05: 60 Geer Ave. Request variance of sec.1.1 to increase
maximum lot coverage from 25% to 34.65% and sec. 4.14 to reduce the
side yard setback for an accessory building from 10 feet to 8 feet on
both side yard setbacks to construct a 24 x 24 detached garage.
Property of Mary-Kim LE; Application of Mary-Kim Le, Assessors
Map#117, Block#002, Lot#045
Richard Shuck read Exhibits A - E into the record.
Mary-Kim Le of 60 Geer Avenue stated she currently has a single car
garage and would like to make it a two car garage for the four cars
registered to the property. Mary-Kim Le stated the current garage was built
in the 1920-30s and is designed for smaller cars. Mary-Kim Le stated she
would like the new size to conform to the situate status. Mary-Kim Le stated
the garage has a cement floor that is crumbling so she would like to concrete
over it and enlarge it. Marc Benjamin asked if the current garage extends
beyond the setback line and if the proposed increase size would stay along
the same line. Mary-Kim Le stated she would extend the garage to the set
back line to conform. Richard Shuck explained that the current size of the
garage centered on the plot size is two feet over the side yard setback lines
on either side. Richard Shuck stated the garage currently was over the
setback line by approximately five to seven feet. Marc Benjamin noted there
would be a three foot improvement but a two foot loss. Robert Phoenix
asked what the detriment to the applicant would be if the application was
not approved. Mary Kim-Le stated she would prefer to keep cars housed
within a garage during extreme warm and cold months and that it would
allow for housing larging vehicles. Marc Benjamin asked if, aside from the
floor, the garage was structurally sound or imperative to take down. Mary-
Kim Le responded the garage has a wood interior that was deteriorating.
Robert Phoenix made a motion to close the public hearing Gregory
Schlough seconded. All voted in favor. The motion passed unanimously.
E. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE DECISIONS:
1. V# 22-04: 1-59 Forest View Drive (AKA 214 Vergason Ave Ext.);
Request for Use Variance to ZR Sec. 4.1.1, Conformity Requirements;
to permit use of the property for development of up to 24 additional
dwelling units in in the existing condominium development within the
Business Park Zone. Property of Forest Land Investment, LLC.
Application of Forest Land Investment, LLC. Assessors Map # 034,
Block # 001 Lots # 038
Richard Shuck read a referral letter from the Commission on City Planning
into the record, which recommended against approving the various in a four-
to-one vote.
Marc Benjamin stated the applicant was not in attendance. Marc Benjamin
stated that the ZEO had attempted to reach Attorney Mark Block prior to the
meeting and was unable to. Marc Benjamin stated given no applicant in
attendance he felt compelled to continue the applicant until the next
regularly scheduled meeting, although it may surpass the application’s 60
day window, in which case if the applicant were to reach out to the ZEO a
special meeting could be held pending scheduling. Discussion ensued.
Richard Shuck noted that a decision must be made at the meeting or a
special meeting must be scheduled. Robert Phoenix made a motion to deny
the application based on the recommendation of the Commission on City
Planning. Gregory Schlough seconded. Discussion ensued. Robert
Phoenix withdrew his motion.
Marc Benjamin made a motion to approve the application. Robert Phoenix
seconded. Robert Phoenix stated that in light of the letter received from the
Commission on City Planning and their position to not approve the variance
it felt appropriate to not approve the application. Gregory Schlough agreed.
David Martin noted nothing had been provided as a rationale to go against
the decision of the CCP. Dorothy Travers was in agreement of points made.
Marc Benjamin agreed and stated there was no evidence provided to go
against the decision of the CCP.
Attorney Mark Hoberman spoke in opposition of the variance and agreed
with the decision made by the Board. Attorney Hoberman stated he felt a
non-self-created hardship for the variance had not been presented.
Marc Benjamin added an amendment to his motion that if the applicant were
to re-submit the application that the six-month wait period for re-application
could be waived. Robert Phoenix seconded. All members were in favor of
the amendment to the motion.
All members voted in opposition to approving the variance. The motion
failed.
2. V#22-05: 60 Geer Ave. Request variance of sec.1.1 to increase
maximum lot coverage from 25% to 34.65% and sec. 4.14 to reduce the
side yard setback for an accessory building from 10 feet to 8 feet on
both side yard setbacks to construct a 24 x 24 detached garage.
Property of Mary-Kim LE; Application of Mary-Kim Le, Assessors
Map#117, Block#002, Lot#045
Robert Phoenix made a motion to approve the application. Gregory
Schlough seconded. All members voted in favor. The motion passed
unanimously. Robert Phoenix stated that whether or not garages were in
conformity he did not see the increased size and functionality of the existing
garage being a detriment to property. Robert Phoenix stated there was a
hardship of the existing building not likely to be viable and in need of
improvement regardless of the increased size. Robert Phoenxis stated
there were various non-conforming parts of the property and improvements
are not uncharaterisc of the neighborhood. Discussion ensued David Martin
stated there was a hardship of the lot size and shape. David Martin stated
that it was a small narrow lot and the variance would make it less of a non-
conforming condition on one side. David Martin added the two car garage
size was consistent with the neighborhood and that he felt not granting the
variance would be denying a reasonable use of the property. Dorothy
Travers was in agreement with David Travers and that the current condition
of the garage was a liability. Marc Benjamin was in agreement with the
points made.
F. STAFF UPDATES: None.
G. ADJOURNMENT: A motion was made by Greg to adjourn at 7:37 PM. Robert
Phoenix seconded. All voted in favor. The motion passed unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Katherine Rose
Recording Secretary
Agenda
AGENDA REGULAR MEETING
City of Norwich
Zoning Board of Appeals
Tuesday August 9, 2022
7:00 pm
Hybrid Meeting
(Room 335 and Online)
A. Call to Order
B. Roll Call and Seating of Alternates
D. Communications:
E. Acceptance of July 12, 2022 meeting minutes
F. Old Business:
G. New Business:
V# 22-04: 1-59 Forest View Drive (AKA 214 Vergason Ave Ext.); Request for Use
Variance to ZR Sec. 4.1.1, Conformity Requirements; to permit use of the
property for development of up to 24 additional dwelling units in in the existing
condominium development within the Business Park Zone. Property of Forest
Land Investment, LLC. Application of Forest Land Investment, LLC. Assessors Map
# 034, Block # 001 Lots # 038
V#22-05: 60 Geer Ave. Request variance of sec.1.1 to increase maximum lot
coverage from 25% to 34.65% and sec. 4.14 to reduce the side yard setback for
an accessory building from 10 feet to 8 feet on both side yard setbacks to
construct a 24 x 24 detached garage. Property of Mary-Kim LE; Application of
Mary-Kim Le, Assessors Map#117, Block#002, Lot#045
H. Discussion and Possible Decisions:
V# 22-04: 1-59 Forest View Drive (AKA 214 Vergason Ave Ext.); Request for Use
Variance to ZR Sec. 4.1.1, Conformity Requirements; to permit use of the property
for development of up to 24 additional dwelling units in in the existing
condominium development within the Business Park Zone. Property of Forest
Land Investment, LLC. Application of Forest Land Investment, LLC. Assessors Map
# 034, Block # 001 Lots # 038
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V#22-05: 60 Geer Ave. Request variance of sec.1.1 to increase maximum lot
coverage from 25% to 34.65% and sec. 4.14 to reduce the side yard setback for an
accessory building from 10 feet to 8 feet on both side yard setbacks to construct
a 24 x 24 detached garage. Property of Mary-Kim LE; Application of Mary-Kim Le,
Assessors Map#117, Block#002, Lot#045
I. Staff Updates
J. Adjournment
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