City Council Workshop
Regular MeetingOakdale, MN · July 25, 2023
Minutes
WORKSHOP MINUTES
OAKDALE CITY COUNCIL
JULY 25, 2023
The City Council held a workshop on Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at Oakdale City Hall, 1584 Hadley
Avenue North, Oakdale, Minnesota. The meeting began at 5:01 PM.
Present: Mayor Kevin Zabel
Council Members: Noah Her
Jake Ingebrigtson
Andy Morcomb
Susan Willenbring
City Staff Members: Christina Volkers, City Administrator
Sara Ludwig, City Clerk
Jesse Farrell, City Engineer
Andrew Gitzlaff, Community Development Director
Melanie Lee, Human Resources Director
Max Lohse, Community Development Specialist
Nick Newton, Police Chief
Lori Pulkrabek, Communications Manager
Jim Romanik, Public Works Manager
Ryan Stuart, Police Sergeant
Julie Williams, Recreation Superintendent
Kevin Wold, Fire Chief
Jason Zimmerman, Finance Director
Kevin Zittel, Facilities Manager
AUTO THEFT PREVENTION GRANT
Police Chief Nick Newton provided a brief overview of the Auto Theft Prevention Program. He
explained that the City is facing an uptick in auto thefts, and this grant would help cover the
costs associated with theft prevention and recovery of stolen vehicles. The technology sought
in the grant request are two Starchase units and automated license plate readers (ALPR).
Starchase is a vehicle mounted system that allows officers to deploy a GPS tracking device to
a vehicle that is fleeing police or committing crimes in transit. This allows the officer to back
off and follow the vehicle via GPS until it comes to a stop and provides a safe opportunity to
arrest offenders with no high-speed chase involved. The request for funding related to ALPR’s
would enable the ALPR features on the current Motorola squad cameras that are mounted in
all patrol vehicles, along with the purchase of two portable ALPR units. These items were
requested to allow for early detection of stolen vehicles entering an area. This would allow
officers to respond to the alert and potentially apprehend the offender before they commit
additional crimes.
In response to Council Member Willenbring’s question about the Starchase technology, Police
Sergeant Ryan Stuart said that the GPS tracker releases from the front bumper of the squad
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car. Council Member Willenbring asked a follow up question about the guidelines around the
use of Starchase. Sergeant Stuart explained that the Police Department would create an
internal policy for its use. He added that there would be no long-term tracking as it only works
for eight consecutive hours. Council Member Willenbring asked if the tracked data would be
saved. Sergeant Stuart informed her that it would only be downloaded and saved for each
specific case, but not kept indefinitely.
City Administrator Chris Volkers asked if the Police Department would follow a sample policy
provided by LMC or their association for their internal policy. Sergeant Stuart stated that other
cities have a similar policy, as well as the League of Minnesota Cities is likely working on a
model policy for departments to follow. He added that State statute has guidelines around
situations in which the Starchase technology can be deployed and yes, Oakdale police would
follow those model policies.
Council Member Her recapped his understanding of the ALPR technology and asked when a
police officer would be deployed after the ALPR provides a hit on a vehicle in the vicinity.
Sergeant Stuart explained that the ALPR technology can be programmed to only alert the
police officer to things such as stolen vehicles, outstanding warrants, amber alerts, missing
persons, etc. Additionally, the two requested mobile ALPR systems would be placed in retail
areas and could be moved around as hot spots are identified.
In response to Council Member Morcomb’s question about this being a one-time grant,
Sergeant Stuart explained that if the City can show positive results during the Auto Theft
Prevention Program’s biennial audit, the grant will be a continued funding source for the auto
theft prevention technology.
The Council was supportive of the Police Department accepting the awarded funds and
implementing the Auto Theft Prevention Program. This will go to the next Council meeting for
final grant acceptance.
Ms. Volkers stated that she would send the KSTP-Woodbury Police Department news story
about Starchase to the Council.
In response to Council Member Her’s question about the effective range of Starchase,
Sergeant Stuart said it is 50-60 feet.
In response to Council Member Willenbring’s question about the reusability of the GPS
trackers, Sergeant Stuart stated that Starchase will replace trackers as needed.
BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN DRAFT PLAN REVIEW
Mayor Zabel asked Community Development Director Andy Gitzlaff and Community
Development Specialist Max Lohse to focus on any changes that have taken place since the
last time this item was brought to Council.
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Mr. Lohse explained that this is a complete draft of the Bicycle and Pedestrian Plan which
includes all chapters and figures, but does not include the graphic design process. He
reviewed the changes that have been made including an introduction within Chapter 1, the
inclusion of Chapter 2 and Chapter 5 in their entirety, and new figures scattered throughout
the Plan.
Mayor Zabel suggested that staff cite and link to the City’s 2040 Comprehensive Plan in
reference to the Vision section on Page 4.
Council Member Her suggested quantifying the near-term and long-term phasing in the
Implementation of the Future Network graph in Chapter 5. Mr. Lohse added that near-term is
likely 1-5 years, but he will discuss with the consultant.
In response to Mayor Zabel asking about how the timeframes are crafted in a way that
indicates suggestions versus firm commitments, Mr. Lohse stated that there is language
throughout the Plan like ‘recommended’ and ‘possible timeline’, but he said staff can check
the document again to ensure the language aligns with Council’s intent.
Mayor Zabel asked about adding City and County responsibility distinction on the snowplow
trail maps. Mr. Lohse indicated that not all of the proposed changes to the maps have been
made yet, but this change is one on the list to be made.
Council Member Ingebrigtson expressed safety concerns about the ‘road diet’ roadway
reconfiguration option as referenced on page 27. Mayor Zabel asked if there were any specific
routes identified for this type of reconfiguration. Mr. Lohse said there are none identified in
the current Plan. Mr. Gitzlaff referenced the Implementation of the Future Network graphs in
Chapter 5 and explained how a ‘road diet’ may be a way to obtain right-of-way.
Council Member Ingebrigtson was pleased to see that there was not a strong push within the
Plan for bike lanes on the roadways.
Mayor Zabel asked if the Plan will be updated as sidewalks and trails are updated and
completed outside of the Plan, specifically referencing the Willowbrooke Development Plan.
Mr. Gitzlaff noted that GIS layering will address this.
Ms. Volkers and Mayor Zabel suggested establishing a timeline for future review of the Plan.
Council Member Her followed up, clarifying that the Plan is used to take action. Mayor Zabel
stated that it is when the opportunities present themselves.
Mr. Lohse concluded that the revisions provided by Council will be incorporated in the final
document which will be posted to the City’s website for public review. The Plan will then be
brought back to City Council for formal adoption.
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PROPOSED UPDATES TO CITY POLICY EPB-022: OAKDALE FIRST
Mr. Gitzlaff explained that the City is updating its internal policies and identified EPB-022:
Oakdale First as one that needed review. The current policy seeks to improve employment
outcomes for residents of Oakdale and Washington County by requiring businesses that
receive financial assistance from the City to utilize Washington County Workforce Center
services when filling new positions and encouraging the prioritization of hiring Oakdale
candidates. He then reviewed staff’s proposed policy changes as indicated by tracked
changes.
Mayor Zabel suggested repealing the policy in its entirety as the City has scaled back its loan
programs in recent years. It was also mentioned that given the low unemployment currently,
the Council is not interested in these types of mandates to our businesses in Oakdale. Council
was in agreement.
Mr. Gitzlaff noted that it is not required for the City to have a preferential hiring policy.
COUNTY STATE AID HIGHWAY 13 (50TH STREET NORTH) CONSTRUCTION PROJECT: TRAIL
CONNECTION PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITY WITH WASHINGTON COUNTY
City Engineer Jesse Farrell explained that Washington County is planning to do infrastructure
improvements in 2024, from the Hadley Interchange to Olson Lake Trail, which includes
pavement resurfacing, existing trail replacement, guardrail replacement, concrete work, and
signing/striping replacement. The County has discussed extending the existing bituminous
trail along the south side of County State Aid Highway 13 from Helmo Avenue North to Olson
Lake Trail, which covers about 1,000 feet. Per the County’s Cost Participation Policy,
Washington County is willing to fund half of the new trail construction, and would look for the
remainder to come from the City of Oakdale. The County is estimating the total cost to be
around $150,000. Mr. Farrell noted that the City would not have to begin payments until
2025.
Mayor Zabel was opposed to the project and was unclear about the origins of the Washington
County Cost Participation Policy. Mr. Farrell referenced his work with Ramsey County noting
that they have a similar policy.
Council Member Willenbring asked if Washington County will only complete the project if the
City agrees to fund half of it. It was unclear if that is the case.
In reference to a comment made by Mr. Farrell about Washington County having limited funds
to complete all the necessary and/or desired cities’ and County projects, Mayor Zabel stated
that the County has the ability to raise its tax levy just like a city might have to do in order to
participate in a cost-share project.
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Council Member Willenbring clarified that it is a County trail and therefore the County is
required to maintain it. Council Member Ingebrigtson was in agreement.
Council Member Morcomb asked for background information regarding the previous trail
improvement project along County Road 14. Mayor Zabel explained that the City participated
in a cost-share with the County, however, the original estimate for the project doubled from
the time the City agreed to fund half the project to the time the improvements were actually
completed.
Mr. Farrell stated that staff’s recommendation is to proceed with this project to close the trail
system gap within the City, and evaluate future cost-share projects in regards to the City’s
right to not participate. In response, Mayor Zabel asked where the City might draw the line
with the County in terms of future cost-share projects or City versus County responsibilities.
Council Member Willenbring asked about the specific advantage to closing the gap in the trail
system. Mr. Farrell stated that this trail would add value to the City.
Council Member Her was supportive of moving forward with the cost-share project as there is
a benefit that Oakdale residents receive from the completion of this trail. He added that the
City always has the option to decline if the County asks to turn the trail maintenance over to
the City in the future.
Council Member Ingebrigtson expressed concern with accepting this project and how that may
affect future cost-share requests from the County.
Mayor Zabel pointed out that there have been past opportunities for the County to complete
this portion of the trail.
In response to Council Member Her’s question about the City’s option to turn down the County
if they request to turn over the trail maintenance back to the City, Mayor Zabel said it is
ultimately up to the City. Council Member Her reiterated his support to move forward with the
cost-share project as presented.
Council Member Morcomb noted that there are several other trails in the City that are in
despair that are owned by the County. He was not supportive of this cost-share project.
Ms. Volkers asked Mr. Farrell if the County will continue with the trail improvement project if
the City declines to help fund it. Mr. Farrell said that he has gotten the indication the County
will re-evaluate the project for implementation in a future year. It was also noted that Lake
Elmo may have a role in this trail segment.
Council Member Willenbring asked about resident feedback in regards to closing this gap in
the trail system. Mr. Farrell stated he only saw one resident response in support of this on a
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City social media post. Mr. Gitzlaff added that there were comments received about this gap
as part of the Bicycle and Pedestrian Plan community engagement effort.
Council Member Ingebrigtson commented that looking beyond this specific request, is it
prudent to spend $75,000-$80,000 on any projects right now?
Mayor Zabel suggested declining the cost-share request, but adopting a resolution that
encourages Washington County to move forward with the trail improvement project.
Council Member Willenbring was not supportive of moving forward with the cost-share project,
but was supportive of Mayor Zabel’s suggestion of a resolution.
Council Member Her was not supportive of adopting the suggested resolution.
Mr. Farrell brought up a question about how trail dollars are being spent by the County in
terms of equity among the cities within the County. Council Member Willenbring and Ms.
Volkers were also interested in this information.
In conclusion, the majority of the Council was not supportive of the cost-share project, but
directed staff to put the resolution under the Engineering Department on a future Council
agenda.
ADMINISTRATOR UPDATE
Ms. Volkers reminded the Council about Night to Unite happening on Tuesday, August 1st. The
Police Department will provide the list of registered neighborhood organizers internally this
week so Council and staff are able to plan their visits to the parties accordingly. The
neighborhood organizers will receive a City swag bag with party supplies.
COUNCIL TOPICS
Council Member Ingebrigtson indicated that he will likely wear a polo with dress pants and a
nice pair of tennis shoes to future Council workshops and regular meetings after finding out
there is not a dress code. He also noted that it may be less intimidating for residents to
approach them if they are dressed in business casual versus business formal.
Council Member Her stated that when he was at Tanners Lake over the weekend he noticed
motor vehicles driving on the sidewalk from the boat launch to the shelter area. He also noted
a lot of trash that was in the tall grass in the park. Mayor Zabel asked if there is anything that
can be done to deter cars from driving on the sidewalks. Staff will look into this.
Council Member Her brought up the possibility of passing a moratorium on the public use of
cannabis until the State has established the Office of Cannabis Management and provided
the cities with more guidelines.
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Mayor Zabel noted that most cities are focusing on three main areas surrounding the
legalization of recreational marijuana beginning August 1st. The first being restricting cannabis
use in public, with public being defined as City sidewalks or in front of businesses that are
subject to public accommodation laws. He added that a local business owner has already
reached out and expressed support for the City restricting cannabis use in front of businesses.
Council Member Her asked if smoking is allowed in these businesses that are subject to public
accommodation laws. Mayor Zabel responded that it is up to each business whether they
allow smoking on their outdoor patio, but they will be subject to restrictions regarding the
number of feet smoking is allowed away from the door.
Mayor Zabel clarified that the law recently passed by the legislature leaves it up to cities to
regulate the public use of cannabis. Council Member Her asked about the current restrictions
on tobacco smoking in public. It was noted that the City Code prohibits this within twenty-five
feet of a public doorway.
Mayor Zabel asked the group if they would like to restrict the use of cannabis, including edibles
or solely focus on smoking. Council Member Willenbring stated there is not enough
information to make these decisions at this time. Mayor Zabel said the goal of the discussion
tonight is to get a general sense of Council intent so that staff can look into other cities’
examples and bring ordinance language back to a future workshop to continue the discussion
in more depth. Mayor Zabel asked the Council if there was support for staff to devote time to
this research. Council Member Her was in support of this suggestion, and said cannabis and
tobacco should be regulated the same except for use while driving. Council Member
Ingebrigtson agreed with Council Member Her’s suggestion stating the current regulations for
tobacco should be applied to cannabis as well, if it is Council’s intent to regulate the public
use of cannabis at all. Mayor Zabel clarified that the moratorium he mentioned earlier was in
reference to licensing, while the regulation of public use would involve a City Code
amendment.
Council Member Her would like more information about the State law and hear staff’s
recommendation on the regulation of cannabis in public. Council Member Morcomb would
also like more information before making a decision on the public use of cannabis, but is in
favor of a moratorium on the business aspect.
Mayor Zabel asked if there was Council support for staff to research banning the public use
of cannabis in public settings. Council Member Willenbring was not supportive of banning the
substance. Council Members Morcomb and Ingebrigtson were in favor, while Mayor Zabel and
Council Member Her would like more information and sample language.
The second item that Mayor Zabel brought forward for discussion was smoking cannabis in
public parks. Council Members Ingebrigtson and Morcomb would not support the use of
cannabis in public parks. Council Member Willenbring would support the use of cannabis in
public parks as it is a legal substance. Mayor Zabel and Council Member Her would like to see
sample language before making a decision.
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The third item that Mayor Zabel brought forward was discussion about a moratorium on
cannabis businesses. The Council was supportive of a moratorium with a specific end date.
Ms. Volkers provided information regarding a business whose THC consumable products
license application was denied and whose appealing this denial to the Council. She will
provide any necessary background information to Council Members Her and Morcomb prior
to this appeal.
Mayor Zabel informed the group that a lobbyist reached out about the City changing the THC
consumable products City Code to allow exclusive liquor stores to sell THC, specifically THC-
infused seltzers. Ms. Volkers pointed out that numerous exclusive liquor stores in the City are
selling this product despite the current City Code which does not allow this type of license to
be issued to these establishments. Mayor Zabel asked if there is Council intent to change the
City Code language now or wait until the State provides clarity. The general consensus from
Council was to wait for the State to issue guidelines.
Council Member Morcomb brought up the Arts and Culture Commission within the City of
North St. Paul, in reference to the possibilities of the City’s own commissions. He suggested
an Oakdale History Commission. Ms. Volkers stated that there has been an Oakdale Historical
Society that focused on capturing the history of Oakdale. Mayor Zabel said he would be
curious to know what the North St. Paul Arts and Culture Commission does.
Ms. Volkers asked the Council for their guidance on a current Economic Development
Commissioner who does not reside in Oakdale, and who recently took a job outside of the City.
The Council agreed that per the current City Code and City Policy MIS-013, the commissioner
can no longer serve. If there is a desire to have a banking representative on the Economic
Development Commission, staff can solicit recommendations.
Council Member Morcomb mentioned that he met with the Skyview Middle School principal
and he is interested in looking for ways to engage with the City.
Council Member Morcomb reiterated his point from the last workshop about remaining
respectful if Independent School District 622 Superintendent Christine Tucci Osorio attends
a future workshop. Discussion continued about expectations for and Council intent on this
topic. In conclusion, this item was tabled for another time.
Council Member Willenbring brought up several questions about the current Acorn Award
process and suggested a discussion be had before the 2024 process begins, being that she
and staff are new to the Committee.
Council Member Willenbring asked for clarity on the role of the council members in terms of
bringing forth ideas and initiatives and seeking Council’s intent. She stated that her
understanding of the process is that ideas and initiatives are brought up during Council Topics
at workshop, and if there is Council intent then staff is directed to move forward. Mayor Zabel
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indicated that there are times he will ask staff for input prior to bringing the item to workshop
to ensure that the information needed by staff is obtained at the time of Council’s discussion.
Ms. Volkers also noted that she has asked the Council to inform her of their council topics
beforehand so she has a slight heads up going into the workshop. Council Member Her offered
his understanding of the current process. Council Member Ingebrigtson thanked Council
Member Willenbring for bringing forth that reminder. The consensus was to follow the process
as outlined by Council Member Willenbring.
RECESS FOR REGULAR MEETING AT 6:58 PM
WORKSHOP RECONVENED AT 7:36 PM after the Regular Council Meeting
DEPARTMENT REQUESTED 2024 GENERAL FUND, SPECIAL REVENUE FUND, AND DEBT
SERVICE FUND BUDGETS AND PROPERTY TAX LEVY
Finance Director Jason Zimmerman noted that the discussion would focus on the 2024
General Fund, Special Revenue Fund, and Debt Service Fund. He recapped prior workshop
discussions which included a conceptual 2024 budget, the proposed 2024-2033 Vehicle &
Equipment Replacement Plan, and the 2024-2028 Capital Improvement Plan (CIP). Between
the May 23, 2023 and June 27, 2023 workshops, each department submitted completed
budgets which have since been reviewed by Mr. Zimmerman and Ms. Volkers. He stated that
the department requested draft budget is being presented to continue the dialog about the
use of City resources and the alignment of these resources with current initiatives.
Mr. Zimmerman shifted to discuss the levy components and budget drivers via the Levy
Summary in OpenGov. The components of the levy include the General Fund, Debt Service
Fund, and Capital Project Fund. In comparison to the 2023 levy, the 2024 currently proposed
levy reflects a 13.8% increase. The Debt Service Fund is projected to go down while the Capital
Project Fund is projected to go up. The primary components of the General Fund increase
include things like salaries, personnel cost-of-living, health insurance, supplies and equipment
for various departments, software improvements, and election costs, however this is not an
exhaustive list.
Mayor Zabel asked about the Washington County election fees as far as spreading them over
two years instead of paying the entire cost every other year. Ms. Volkers indicated she has
been advocating to Washington County for this model to offset these budget extremes. She
was hopeful the County will move forward with this proposed model.
Mr. Zimmerman continued with an overview of the revenue components within the General
Fund. Mayor Zabel asked for clarification on the three proposed police officer positions. Mr.
Zimmerman stated this does not include the officer whose salary was covered by the Sex
Trafficking Grant through Washington County. Council Member Her asked if the City has to
make up for the loss of the grant. Ms. Volkers confirmed. Mayor Zabel questioned if one officer
position should be pushed out an additional year. Council Members Willenbring and
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Ingebrigtson were supportive of keeping the proposed Police Department positions during this
budget cycle.
In response to Mayor Zabel asking about projected full-time employee requests for 2025, Ms.
Volkers indicated with the growing development there is a known need for more Public Works
employees, likely three, and then one employee within the Fire Department.
Council Member Her asked if there are positions accounted for to help support the
Administrative Department as he wanted to ensure this department was sufficiently
supported. Ms. Volkers responded that based on recent conversations with the Mayor and
Council Members, one new administrative position similar to an Assistant City Administrator
will be added as proposed.
Council Member Morcomb pointed out that the Debt Service Fund is decreasing over time,
but asked if this fund is used to even out budget increases over time. Mayor Zabel noted that
historically this has been a practice of the City. Council Member Morcomb followed up to ask
if the debt service is still experiencing higher interest rates. Mr. Zimmerman stated that
despite this, the City’s amortization is exemplary.
Mayor Zabel asked for the tax capacity rate at the 13.8% levy increase. Mr. Zimmerman
responded that he does not have that information yet due to not having the fiscal disparities
information from Washington County. Mayor Zabel stated it is hard to give feedback without
the numbers from the County. Mr. Zimmerman said the County has until the end of August to
provide the fiscal disparities information to its cities. Ms. Volkers reminded the Council that
the 13.8% number is an indicator, but the real number to reference is the tax capacity rate.
Ms. Volkers noted that a few of the budget requests could be covered using one-time funds.
Mayor Zabel asked of the 13.8% proposed levy, how much of that is one-time expenses. Mr.
Zimmerman and Ms. Volkers noted there are ways to turn some of the budgeted items into
one-time expenses. Mr. Zimmerman stated that the fund balance at the end of the year was
at 53% of the following year’s expenditures; and that the Office of the State Auditor
recommends 35-50% of the subsequent year’s expenses. He noted that the current City Policy
FR-019: Fund Balances, will need to be revised to conform to the auditor’s standards.
Council Member Morcomb expressed support for adding an administrative position. He also
brought up the increase in the Charitable Gambling Fund over the years as a source of one-
time funding if needed. Mr. Zimmerman reviewed the lawful expenditures permitted for that
fund as provided by the State of Minnesota, and also noted that the balance will depend on
the funding requested by the Oakdale Summerfest Community Organization (OSCO). Mayor
Zabel said in terms of funds to address one-time expenses, there is the Charitable Gambling
Fund and the Special Projects Fund.
Chief Newton was asked to speak to the Police Department vehicle requests. He indicated
that the current VERF request for 2024 (Mobile Field Force / SWAT Vehicle) and 2025 (Jeep
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Grand Cherokee intended for the addition of the Police Commander position) could be
swapped, with the command vehicle being purchased using the Charitable Gambling Fund.
Mayor Zabel did not want to use the General Fund balance as it allows the City to fund
operations for roughly nine months without tax revenue. Ms. Volkers suggested using the
residual fund balance from 2023 to cover one-time expenses, particularly the administrative
personnel discussed earlier. The Council was supportive of allowing staff to update the budget
based on the conversations had thus far.
In response to Council Member Morcomb’s question about setting a minimum balance for the
Charitable Gambling Fund, Mayor Zabel said this has not been done in the past. Council
Member Willenbring asked if the Fire Department’s one-time expenditures have been
included in the budget. Ms. Volkers said the Charitable Gambling Fund is a good source for
those expenses.
Mayor Zabel suggested that staff bring back a full list of one-time expenses including things
that are currently budgeted but can be shifted out, as well as new one-time items that are not
part of the budget, and identify potential funds for these one-time expenses.
Mr. Zimmerman asked about Council’s intent regarding the proposed number of personnel
positions. Council was supportive.
To wrap up, Mr. Zimmerman noted that the revised CIP will be reviewed at the August 8, 2023
workshop meeting. Council Member Morcomb stated that the Parks and Recreation
Commission Chair suggested moving up the Tanners Lake Playground improvement to an
earlier date within the CIP. Ms. Volkers advised that the other Tanners Lake items within the
CIP be considered within this same timeline to ensure efficiency.
ADJOURNMENT
The workshop was adjourned at 8:38 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Sara Ludwig, City Clerk
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