Architectural Commission & Historic Preservation Commission
Regular MeetingOconomowoc, WI · November 3, 2021
Minutes
City of Oconomowoc
Architectural Commission Meeting Minutes
November 3, 2021
Chairman Flint called the meeting to order at 4:31 pm.
Members Present: Flint, Krogstad, Schultz, Schrang and Johnson
Staff Present: Weber, Gallo and Dehnert
2. Approve the October 6, 2021 Minutes: Motion by Johnson to approve the October 6, 2021 minutes; second
by Schrang. Motion carried 5-0.
3. TownPlace Suites by Marriott – Consider/approve a Special Exception for Signage at 1242 Corporate
Center Drive: Weber explained this applicant is requesting special exceptions for both their wall and ground
signs. The (2) wall signs will consist of channel letters and located on the upper levels of the south and east
walls. They will each be 82.82 sf which exceeds the max 50 square feet code requirement and requires a special
exception. Weber noted while the proposed signage exceeds code, it wouldn’t be legible if it was any smaller, and
the signage at its proposed size will be very visible and a great identifier. The ground sign will be located at the
intersection of Oconomowoc Drive and Corporate Center Drive and include signage for both the hotel and
restaurant on a single monument base. It will be located on the hotel’s property which makes the restaurant sign
off-premises and requires a special exception. The sign will consist of the same brick as the hotel with an opaque
background and includes address numbers. There was no landscaping shown originally on the plan but was later
added by the applicant. Weber explained code requires landscaping to go around the base and suggested the
members allow the applicant to work with staff on proper landscaping for the sign. Weber recommended approval
of the special exceptions for the wall and ground signs with consideration to allow staff to work with the applicant
on landscaping. Don Nummerdor of Sign Effectz Inc. said he will follow through with proper landscaping for
around the base of the ground sign. Members questioned if there is a minimum size for address numbers on signs
because the numbers shown were very small and hard to see. Nummerdor explained there is only 16” under the
main sign, and he was concerned the numbers would not be visible because of the landscaping. The members
discussed other locations for the numbers and decided they should remain where proposed but they should be
bigger. Motion by Schultz to approve special exceptions for the wall and ground sign for TownPlace Suites by
Marriott, 1242 Corporate Center Drive subject to the address numbers being increased to be 4” tall minimum and
the landscaping around the sign to be administratively reviewed and approved by staff; second by Krogstad.
Motion carried 5-0.
4. Reports and comments from the City Planner: Weber explained staff has worked with the developer of the
Jiffy Lube on several items on their building including the color of the bollards, the trash enclosure has been made
smaller, and a change in the color of the brick and roof shingles. All changes were reviewed by staff and approved
by Pabst Farms. Lastly, there is a new tenant in the other side of the Starbucks building who is adding additional
square footage onto the building to accommodate their business. All changes to the building match the
architecture as approved by the members, and the additional size compliments the building and works with the
drive-thru for the Starbucks.
5. Reports and comments from the Architectural Commissioners: None.
6. Adjourn: Motion by Flint to adjourn at 4:52 pm; second by Johnson. Motion carried 5-0.
Chris Dehnert, Deputy City Clerk
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Agenda
City of Oconomowoc
ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSION MEETING
Wednesday, November 3, 2021 @ 4:30 PM @ City Hall, Conference Room #3
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AGENDA:
1. Roll Call and Confirmation of appropriate meeting notification.
2. Approve Minutes of October 6, 2021.
3. TownPlace Suites by Marriot – Consider/approve a Special Exception for signage at 1242
Corporate Center Drive.
4. Reports and comments from the City Planning Department.
5. Reports and comments from the Architectural Commissioners.
6. Adjourn.
Members of other City governmental bodies (boards, commission, committees, council, etc.) may attend the above
noticed meeting of the Architectural Commission in order to gather information. The only action to be taken at the
above noticed meeting will be action by the Architectural Commission. Architectural Commissioners should notify the
City Clerk's Office at 262-569-3236 if they are unable to attend.
City of Oconomowoc
Architectural Commission Meeting Minutes
October 6, 2021
Chairman Flint called the meeting to order at 4:30 pm.
Members Present: Johnson, Flint, Krogstad, Schultz and Schrang
Staff Present: Weber, Gallo and Dehnert
2. Approve the September 8, 2021 Minutes: Motion by Johnson to approve the September 8, 2021 minutes;
second by Krogstad. Flint pointed out an email was sent to the members by Dehnert on 10/4/21 with updated
minutes. Motion carried 5-0.
3. SteelTank Brewing Company – Consider/approve a Special Exception to update the Ground Sign and
Electronic Message Center at 1225 Robruck Drive: Weber explained the applicant is requesting a special
exception for a monument sign with an electronic message center (EMC). Previous owners had a ground sign on
a base with an EMC which has been removed. The new owners want to keep the existing base and add a sign
with an EMC. The sign and EMC are 74” tall and with the 37” tall base the overall sign height is taller (9.5’) than
the maximum height (8’) allowed per code. The applicant is requesting a special exception to allow the additional
1.5’ height which they feel is warranted as it will help motorists be able to see their sign better. Weber noted the
applicant already added landscaping around the base which compliments the plantings around the building, and
they have 4 temporary off-premises signs at the intersection of Robruck Drive and WIS 67/Summit Avenue which
should be removed. Weber recommended approval of the request for a special exception. Ramona Marenda of
Signs & Lines by Stretch explained the base of the sign is sturdy and the design is simple. Members agreed with
keeping the base and the request for the additional height. Gallo noted the additional height will help with the
visibility of the business. Motion by Johnson to approve a special exception for the updated monument sign and
electronic message center at SteelTank Brewing, 1225 Robruck Drive; second by Schrang. Motion carried 5-0.
4. Thirst Church - Consider/approve a Special Exception to update the Ground Sign and Electronic
Message Center at 1260 Brown Street: Weber explained the applicant is requesting a special exception for a
monument sign with an electronic message center (EMC). They received approval of their master sign plan at last
month’s Architectural Commission meeting but action on the monument sign was postponed because they were
not ready with the sign design. They now have updated plans for the monument sign which includes keeping the
same base (98” wide) and adding a 31” tall color EMC which is larger due to the size of the base. The overall
height of the sign is taller (10.4’) than the maximum height (8’) allowed per code requirements. The applicant is
requesting a special exception to allow the additional 2.4’ height to help motorists be able to see their sign from a
distance. Weber said the sign design has been simplified and follows the master sign plan. Weber did a site visit
and noted the sign will be located directly beneath a sizable tree. There was discussion on the tree, and instead of
moving the monument sign the applicant indicated their preference to remove the tree. Weber explained it has
been City policy to refrain from taking down healthy trees but if the applicant insists on removal of the tree, City
code requires that in its place they are to plant (4) 3” caliper trees. Weber recommended approval of the request
for a special exception with consideration to keep the tree or replace it with (4) 3” caliper trees. Brad Hubbard of
Innovative Signs Inc. provided details on the EMC and its abilities. He thought if the tree had its lower 3 branches
cut that would help the visibility of the sign and believes the tenant will be willing to trim the tree instead of cutting
it down. Members suggested a good arborist could make suggestions on how to properly trim the tree; suggested
moving the address numbers up above the brick; and consider adding landscaping around the base. Motion by
Krogstad to approve a special exception for the updated ground sign and electronic message center; second by
Johnson. Motion amended by Krogstad for staff to work with the applicant on the tree situation whether to keep or
remove it and replace with (4) 3” caliper trees; second by Johnson. Motion carried 5-0.
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5. Historic Preservation Ordinance - Review/recommendation to create Chapter 29 in the City Municipal
Code: Gallo thanked the members for postponing action on this item at last month’s meeting as he found several
items in another community’s historic preservation ordinance that should also be included in the City’s. Gallo
explained the changes which included: a new section on certificate of appropriateness; added historic landmarks
to the items that could be preserved; removed references that requests also had to go to Plan Commission; added
more detail on what is expected with an application; and a new section on demolition of buildings. Members
comments included: Council should be involved in designating historic structures; ordinance doesn’t have teeth or
address the issue of protecting historic buildings in the City; thinks the ordinance should change the requirement
from 100% of home owners that must approve the creation of a historic district which would really help;
questioned what was the intent of the Wisconsin statute which required the creation of a historic preservation
ordinance; think Council should re-evaluate this ordinance and their intent – if it is to save buildings, this ordinance
doesn’t do it; if a historic property is sold, does the designation go with the property and what if the new owner
doesn’t want it; is a historic preservation designation more challenging for property owners when they want to sell
the property; and not ready to vote for approval of the proposed ordinance tonight. Gallo explained a previous
draft of this ordinance included the historic preservation commission to be able to request a historic district for a
group of homes but the COTW took the commission out and made it that only Council or the property owners can
request to be part of a historic district; not sure if a historic building designation can be removed from a property
once granted; would like to move this ordinance on to COTW or Council; and will talk to the Interim City
Administrator for further direction. Motion by Flint based on the discussion this evening that the Historic
Preservation Ordinance is to go back for further review by the Committee-of-the-Whole or Common Council;
second by Johnson. Motion carried 5-0.
6. Reports and comments from the City Planner: None.
7. Reports and comments from the Architectural Commissioners: It was pointed out that temporary
signage around the City seems to be out of control and suggested that at some point, once businesses are back
to normal, staff will have to address it. Gallo and Weber agreed.
8. Adjourn: Motion by Schrang to adjourn at 5:52 pm; second by Johnson. Motion carried 5-0.
Chris Dehnert, Deputy City Clerk
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Department of City Planning
Kristi Weber | 262.569.2173
oconomowoc-wi.gov/planning
Architectural Commission Background
November 3rd 2021 : 4:30 pm at City Hall in Conference Room #3
Item #3 – TownePlace Suites by Marriott; Special Exception for Signage
The Applicant is requesting approval (2) two special exceptions for signage for the TownePlace
Suites by Marriott hotel located at 1242 Corporate Center Drive. Building plans for the hotel were
previously reviewed and approved at the February 3rd 2021 Architectural Commission. Signage
was shown in the application, but no specifics or rationales were noted; thus, no action was taken.
Wall Signs – Special Exception
The application shows (2) two identical channel letter wall signs on the south and east elevation.
Each sign is 82.82 SF. Per Code, the max square footage per sign is 50 SF. The Applicant has
provided rationale for the special exception request based on height and legibility of their brand.
Planning Staff supports, the sign design, size, and special exception as it complements the
architecture of the building.
Ground Sign – Special Exception
In the early stages of developing this property, it initially was one (1) large property with (2)
individual proposals (the hotel and restaurant). The property was master planned for building
location, parking, ingress / egress, and signage. The ground sign is located at the intersection of
Oconomowoc Drive and Corporate Center Drive offering high visibility for both properties. The
ground sign has both the hotel and restaurant sign on the single monument base. Technically the
ground sign is located on the TownePlace Suites property, making the restaurant sign off-premise;
that is why they are requesting the special exception. The Applicant has provided rationale for the
request.
The ground sign is within City Code for size and design. It incorporates the stone building material
of the TownePlace Suites, has opaque backgrounds, and address numbers. Planning Staff supports
the sign design and the special exception.
Landscaping
Per code, ground signs have to have landscaping around the entire base of the sign. The application
shows some landscaping at the base of the sign, but the plants are not identified and no site plan
was included. The Applicant to provide additional information about the sign’s landscaping.
Corporate Center Park
The application has been reviewed and approved by the Corporate Center Park Board.
Recommendation:
Approve the Special Exception for signage for TownePlace Suites by Marriott, located at 1242
Corporate Center Drive with the following considerations:
• Landscaping – Applicant to provide additional information.
Department of City Planning
174 E. Wisconsin Avenue Oconomowoc, WI
Sign Application www.oconomowoc-wi.gov | 262.569.2166
The following information is required to be included and explained in your submittal. The submittal shall be
12 copies (no larger than 11”x17”) and collated:
This Application and $75 Application Fee
Color renderings of proposed signs and signage on building
A letter/email of approval signed by the property owner
Sign landscaping plan and plant list
Sign site plan showing setbacks from property line
To scale, drawing of sign(s) with area calculations and dimensions
[Free-standing signs only] Sign plan showing height above grade
[For building signs only] Rendition of building showing sign placement on the building
Signs not conforming to the Sign Ordinance requirements such as size, number, location or other
regulations listed in Subchapter 17-6, may apply for a special exception per § 17.602(5). Applicant shall
provide written justification for why a special exception is needed.
[Email] All of the above in .pdf format (under 5MB) to Planning Staff
o Jason Gallo, City Planner: JGallo@oconomowoc-wi.gov | phone: 262-569-2166
o Kristi Weber, Planner: KWeber@oconomowoc-wi.gov | phone: 262-569-2173
Name of Applicant requesting the sign: Eric Rohs - Sign Effectz, Inc.
Applicant’s Address (include city, state and zip code): 1827 W Glendale Ave., Milwaukee, WI 53209
Applicant’s telephone number: 262-220-9220
Applicant’s email address: ericr@signeffectz.com
Name of Establishment requesting the sign: TownePlace by Marriott
Address of Establishment (include city, state and zip code): 1242 Corporate Center Dr., Oconomowoc, WI 53066
Name of Establishment’s primary contact:
Primary contact’s telephone number:
Primary contact’s email address:
Property Owner of establishment requesting the sign: Kinseth Hospitality Company Inc,. - Les Kinseth
Property Owner’s Address (include city, state and zip code): 2023 7th Ave., Clear Lake, IA 50428
Property Owner’s telephone number: 641-357-4550
Property Owner’s email address: Lkinseth@kinseth.com
Zoning of Property: GC In the Downtown District? (yes/no) No -OR- on the Isthmus? (yes/no) No
Are you creating / amending a Master Sign Plan? (yes/no)
*****
Administrative filing fees are due at the time an application is filed with the City Clerk’s Office and are not refundable. In addition to
the Administrative fees, City Planning Staff time will be charged back to the applicant. The Applicant will receive monthly invoices of
payments due.
As Applicant/Agent/Property Owner, I agree to pay all chargebacks and to conform to the approval given by the City Planning
Department / Architectural Commission.
Eric Rohs Eric Rohs - Sign Effectz, Inc. October 11th, 2021
Signature Date
T:\Forms\Sign_Application_2020.docx June 2020
Ashley Roberts
Expediter
Persona Signs
700 21st Street SW
Watertown, SD 57201
12 October 2021
Kristi Weber, CNUa
Planner / Community Development Specialist
Oconomowoc City Hall
174 E. Wisconsin Avenue
Oconomowoc, WI 53066
Dear Kristi and members of the Architectural Commission
I am writing to you in regarding the signage proposed for the TownePlace Suites in Oconomowoc,
Wisconsin, which includes two channel letter sets and a shared monument.
The shared monument sign located between the T intersection between the entrances for the
TownePlace Suites and Dairy Queen displays signage for both brands. The area was originally one site, as
reflected previously in the proposed drawings. This premise was subsequently split into two, which
made the Dairy Queen sign then considered off premises. While off premise signage is not typically
permitted, the shared monument would allow for one ground sign and allow the continued partnership
of these brands.
In addition, the TownePlace suites signs exceed the typical fifty square foot limit for signs of their design
at their height; however, the signs, as proposed, make the brand copy legible to visitors and compliment
the overall design of the building.
Please consider these important factors in your evaluation of the proposed signs.
Thank you,
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Ashley Roberts
Expediter
Persona Signs
TOWNEPLACE SUITES
OCONOMOWOC, WI 53066
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NEW CONSTRUCTION /
NO EXISTING SIGNS
1
PROPOSED SIGNS:
2
1 24” CHANNEL LETTER SET
2 24” CHANNEL LETTER SET
3 2’-11 1/2” X 4’-6” SHARED MONUMENT
AT 5’-0” OAH
3
APPROVAL BOX - PLEASE INITIAL
CUSTOMER APPROVAL Date
NOTE: Elevation drawings are for customer approval only, drawings are not to be used as any installation guide, all dimensions must be verified before installation.
Customer: Date: Prepared By: Note: Color output may not be exact when viewing or printing this drawing. All colors used are PMS or the closest CMYK DISTRIBUTED BY SIGN UP COMPANY
TOWNEPLACE SUITES 08/23/21 TJ/KH equivalent. If these colors are incorrect, please provide the correct PMS match and a revision to this drawing will be made. 700 21st Street Southwest
PO Box 210
Location: File Name: Eng:
Watertown, SD 57201-0210
OCONOMOWOC, WI 270748 - R8 - OCONOMOWOC, WI – 1 .800.843.9888 • www.personasigns.com
1 CHANNEL LETTERS SHOWN ON EXISTING WALL COLOR OR AS NOTED ON ELEVATIONS.
CUSTOMER TO VERIFY WALL COLOR PRIOR TO PRODUCTION
EAST ELEVATION
SCALE: 1/16” = 1’-0”
31'-9 5/8"
24"
15"
15'-4 1/2"
CHANNEL LETTER DETAIL
SCALE: 1/4” = 1’-0”
APPROVAL BOX - PLEASE INITIAL
CUSTOMER APPROVAL Date
NOTE: Elevation drawings are for customer approval only, drawings are not to be used as any installation guide, all dimensions must be verified before installation.
Customer: Date: Prepared By: Note: Color output may not be exact when viewing or printing this drawing. All colors used are PMS or the closest CMYK DISTRIBUTED BY SIGN UP COMPANY
TOWNEPLACE SUITES 06/14/21 JS/CM/CD equivalent. If these colors are incorrect, please provide the correct PMS match and a revision to this drawing will be made. 700 21st Street Southwest
PO Box 210
Location: File Name: Eng:
Watertown, SD 57201-0210
OCONOMOWOC, WI 270748 - R8 - OCONOMOWOC, WI – 1 .800.843.9888 • www.personasigns.com
2 CHANNEL LETTERS SHOWN ON EXISTING WALL COLOR OR AS NOTED ON ELEVATIONS.
CUSTOMER TO VERIFY WALL COLOR PRIOR TO PRODUCTION
SOUTH ELEVATION
SCALE: 1/32” = 1’-0”
31'-9 5/8"
24"
15"
15'-4 1/2"
CHANNEL LETTER DETAIL
SCALE: 1/4” = 1’-0”
APPROVAL BOX - PLEASE INITIAL
CUSTOMER APPROVAL Date
NOTE: Elevation drawings are for customer approval only, drawings are not to be used as any installation guide, all dimensions must be verified before installation.
Customer: Date: Prepared By: Note: Color output may not be exact when viewing or printing this drawing. All colors used are PMS or the closest CMYK DISTRIBUTED BY SIGN UP COMPANY
TOWNEPLACE SUITES 06/14/21 JS/CM/CD equivalent. If these colors are incorrect, please provide the correct PMS match and a revision to this drawing will be made. 700 21st Street Southwest
PO Box 210
Location: File Name: Eng:
Watertown, SD 57201-0210
OCONOMOWOC, WI 270748 - R8 - OCONOMOWOC, WI – 1 .800.843.9888 • www.personasigns.com
3
9’-10”
10" BOXED SQ FT: 49.17
4’-8” 4’-8”
4’-6” 6" 4’-6”
2 1/2" 2’-9 3/16”
2 1/2"
2’-11 1/2”
1’-10 3/8”
5’-0”
5”
3'-7 1/4"
2 1/2"
1232 1242
1’-4”
9’-6”
MONUMENT CABINET / POLE COVER PAINTED TO MATCH
MONUMENT SIGN BUILDING EXTERIOR EX-4 BOULDER CREEK WEATHERED EDGE
SCALE: 1/2” = 1’-0”
FON-CU-LAC W/ DELOREAN GRAY MOTOR
APPROVAL BOX - PLEASE INITIAL
CUSTOMER APPROVAL Date
NOTE: Elevation drawings are for customer approval only, drawings are not to be used as any installation guide, all dimensions must be verified before installation.
Customer: Date: Prepared By: Note: Color output may not be exact when viewing or printing this drawing. All colors used are PMS or the closest CMYK DISTRIBUTED BY SIGN UP COMPANY
TOWNEPLACE SUITES 8/31/21 JS/CM/SC/KH/JS/KH/TJ equivalent. If these colors are incorrect, please provide the correct PMS match and a revision to this drawing will be made. 700 21st Street Southwest
PO Box 210
Location: File Name: Eng:
Watertown, SD 57201-0210
OCONOMOWOC, WI 270748 - R8 - OCONOMOWOC, WI – 1 .800.843.9888 • www.personasigns.com
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