Architectural Review Board
Regular MeetingPetersburg, VA · January 9, 2019
Minutes
Architectural Review Board
City of Petersburg, Virginia
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
January 9, 2019 6:00 p.m.
Council Chambers, City Hall
135 N. Union Street, Petersburg VA 23803
Members Present:
Chair, Joe Battiston
Celeste Wynn
Larry Murphy
Mitchell Pradia
Vice-Chair, Isaac Ward
Dino Lunsford
Staff:
Secretary to the ARB, Kate Sangregorio
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Joe Battiston called to order a regular meeting of the City of Petersburg
Architectural Review Board on Wednesday, January 9, 2019 at 6:00 p.m. at Council
Chambers, City Hall, 135 N. Union Street, Petersburg, Virginia 23803.
2. THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
3. REVIEW OF MINUTES
December 12, 2018 minutes were presented. Mr Battiston corrected that in item D, 29
W. Tabb St, the wording should be changed from “easy” to “hard.” A motion was
made by Ms Wynn to approve the minutes with this change made, seconded by Mr
Murphy. Motion passed unanimously with Mr Ward and Mr Pradia abstaining due to
their absence that meeting.
4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Mr Ward moved to approve the agenda and consent agenda as presented, with a
second from Mr Murphy. Motion passed unanimously.
5. PUBLIC INFORMATION PERIOD
Chair Battiston opened the Public Information Period to anyone who wished to speak
on any subject not on the agenda. With there being no comments, Chair Battiston
closed the Public Information Period.
6. REQUEST(S) FOR CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS
Consent Agenda:
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a. 16 W. Old Street: This item was approved in the consent agenda.
Regular Agenda:
b. 734 Harrison Street:
Applicant present, Matthew Morgan from Project:HOMES. Staff recommended
approval of the proposed application.
Mr Morgan explained that this project was a partnership between Project:HOMES
and Rebuilding Together with the Partners for Neighborhood Renewal and
CDBG; the home is owner occupied. It was clarified that the front half of the
house has a tin roof which will be repaired, and the rear half, which is not visible
from the street, has asphalt shingles which will be replaced in-kind.
Mr Ward asked if the new windows were to be on the rear; Mr Bob Lytle,
architect for Rebuilding Together, said yes, the new windows would not be on the
sides. Mr Battiston asked if they would be keeping the tin on addition #1, Mr
Morgan said yes. Mr Battiston asked about the siding on addition #1, Mr Lytle
proposed hardiplank on the sides; Mr Battiston stated the ARB strongly prefers
wood. Mr Lytle said the problem with wood is its durability, it needs a rain
slicker. Mr Battiston asked if the hardiplank would have the same profile as the
existing wood, Mr Lytle said they would have the new type with comparable
exposure and same shadow line- at 30 feet away you can’t tell the difference. Mr
Battiston said it has to have the appearance of wood, this part of the house is set
back. Mr Murphy stated that the Board has requested wood in visible locations in
the past, this should have wood on the sides. Mr Battiston said addition #2 is a
small area, so hardiplank on the rear is fine because it can’t be seen, it’s possible
to take wood from the rear if it’s good and use that on the sides. Mr Morgan asked
that since addition #1 is still an addition, why can’t it have hardiplank? Mr
Battiston said it’s an old addition; so hardiplank on the rear but wood on the sides.
Mr Murphy asked for curiosity if wooden steps would go on the back, Mr Lytle
said yes.
No public comment.
Mr Murphy moved to approve the application with the changes discussed – for
wood siding on the south and north sides and hardiplank on the west side. Motion
seconded by Ms Wynn and passed unanimously.
c. 212 Liberty Street:
Applicants present, Mary Kay Huss and Bob Lytle from Rebuilding Together and
Matthew Morgan from Project:HOMES. Staff recommended approval.
Mr Battiston asked if the exterior stairs would be replicated, Mr Lytle said they’re
not sure, but the stairs are unsafe now; there is interior access. Mr Battiston
suggested the door was added for multifamily access. Ms Huss said probably, but
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the house is single family now. Mr Battiston said then if the stairs are removed it
would take it back to the appearance of a single family. Ms Huss said the family
doesn’t use the door. Mr Battiston speculated that the door may have been made
from a window opening, and asked if they would put a window back in its place
after removing the stairs. Ms Huss and Mr Lytle were unsure. Mr Battiston said if
it’s removed and replaced with a window it needs to be approved and
documented. Mr Lytle commented that the stairs aren’t original. Ms Huss asked if
they would need to come back, Mr Battiston said staff could administratively
approve if the window matches the current windows; but not if the window is
aluminum or different because of DHR regulations.
Mr Ward explained what was meant by the term “in-kind” and asked if any of the
work to be done on the house would not be in-kind, Mr Lytle said no. Mr
Battiston said that if there’s any change to that to check with staff, because it may
be an administrative approval.
No public comment.
Mr Ward motioned to approve the application with the note that all repairs are in-
kind, and remove the exterior stairs as an option; staff will review options
associated with stair removal. Motion seconded by Mr Murphy and passed
unanimously.
d. 438 S. Sycamore Street:
Applicant present, Celestine Hicks. Staff recommended approval.
Ms Hicks said she’d been trying to find rails and spindles to match but can’t get it
exact so they might be a different size. Mr Battiston suggested she bring a sample,
Ms Hicks said she could show photos; one was different style and one was the
same as existing but a little smaller. Mr Battiston asked how much smaller, Mr
Murphy asked if they would all need replacing. Ms Hicks said they were damaged
from rain and poor gutters, and guessed the sample was probably half the size of
the originals.
There was discussion amongst the board about the photos. Mr Battiston said that
if the material was white wood it would need to be replaced again quickly, Ms
Hicks said she didn’t think it was white wood, but a pressure treated wood. Mr
Battiston asked that she get the measurements for staff, and stated that she isn’t
expected to find identical pickets, as long as the sizing is close enough staff can
do an administrative approval.
No public comment.
Mr Ward motioned to give staff the authority to see the comparison between
existing and balusters and approve them administratively. Motion seconded by
Ms Wynn and passed unanimously.
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6. OLD BUSINESS
7. NEW BUSINESS
- Andrew Cushner, 125 Marshall Street, a realtor in historic homes, came
forward. He asked if there was a program for excess properties with the city
and realtors. Mr Battiston said the city used to use a realtor to sell their
property but doesn’t anymore. Mr Battiston added that realtors need to tell
people when houses are in Historic Districts.
8. ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVALS
9. WORK SESSION
- Mr Battiston brought up the debate between windows that are wood and wood
with aluminum clad. He said Petersburg doesn’t have to follow DHR exactly.
Mr Lunsford said they already have a lot of TrimLine aluminum clad in the
city. Mr Ward added that the local government is supposed to fine tune
DHR’s regulations to our situation; there’s always a local variation. Mr
Murphy said the aluminum clad windows last longer and you can’t tell the
difference. Mr Pradia agreed at 3 or more stories. Ms Wynn agrees with
anything easier in the long term. Mr Lunsford said nobody wants to have to
keep replacing and repainting windows.
10. ADJOURNMENT
A motion was made by Mr Ward to adjourn the meeting seconded by Mr Pradia, the
motion passed unanimously and the meeting was adjourned.
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Agenda
Agenda
Architectural Review Board
Wednesday, January 9, 2019
Council Chambers, City Hall
6:00 p.m.
1. Call to Order
2. Pledge of Allegiance
3. Review of Minutes
4. Approval of Agenda
5. Public Information Period
6. Request(s) for Certificate of Appropriateness:
Consent Agenda:
a. 16 W. Old Street (T.P. 011-13-0009) Old Towne Historic District; Owner: James
Wilson; Applicant: Wilten W. Bogan
Install hanging blade sign, aluminum 24” x 36”
Regular Agenda:
b. 734 Harrison Street (T.P. 031-26-0005) Poplar Lawn Historic District; Owner: Charles
Stewart; Applicant: Project:HOMES and Rebuilding Together
Remove rearmost non-original addition, install gutters and downspouts at corners, replace
windows with aluminum clad wood windows
c. 212 Liberty Street (T.P. 022-32-0010) Poplar Lawn Historic District; Owner: Alice
Washington; Applicant: Rebuilding Together and Project:HOMES
Remove and reconstruct side exterior stairs, replace damaged elements in-kind, replace
gutters and downspouts
7. Old Business
8. New Business
9. Work Session
10. Adjournment
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