Neighborhood Districts

Minutes for Neighborhood District 3 Lakeview North, Lakeview South, Fort Utah, Provo Ban, Sunset, Lakewood Thursday 7/20/2023 6:30-8:00 pm 1. Officers: a. New member: Haily Glen, Provo Bay Neighborhood. b. Brian Taylor, Shawn, Brooke, Becky, Arien 2. Bryce ___: a. Recycling Dos and Don’ts - Top 6 b. DO’s i. Cardboard, Chip boxes/board, paper, mail–Mixed Paper, Food Boxes, Mail, Aluminum Cans, Steel/Tin Cans ii. Drinking Bottles, Milk Jugs, Plastic containers: Plastic 1 or 2 ONLY. Remove plastic tops, rinse, crush. 1. #1 (PETE): Soda-pop bottles, cooking-oil bottles, beanut-butter jars 2. #2 (HDPE): Milk, water/juice BOTTLES (not boxes), bleach, detergent bottles, margarine tubs 3. 1’s and 2’s are anything that has a screw-on lid. 4. Whip cream containers that do not have a screw on, cannot. Yogurt containers cannot. iii. Paper Bags/Paper packaging c. DON’Ts i. PLASTIC BAGS – damages machinery. Take plastic bags to grocery stores that participate in plastic bag collections. Anything in a bag is garbage. ii. Bagged recyclables/trash – damages machinery if bags containing trash are opened on conveyor belt. Inspecting bags is a safety risk to handlers so bagged trash will be sent to trash without inspection. Place recycling materials in bag-free containers. iii. Glass Containers 1. Broken glass imbeds into other recycling material contaminating other recyclables and must be thrown out. 2. Take glass containers to the Glass Recycling Bin at 100 W 300 N (SE Corner of Smiths parkin glot in the previous RC Willey parking lot). Do not place bags or boxes in the Glass Recycling bin. iv. Electronics – 1. Take to SUVSWD transfer station. 2. TVs and large electronic items can be recycled during the Spring and Fall clean up. v. Textiles / Clothing – donate to thrift stores. vi. Wax-Coated Boxes – trash bin vii. Plastics #3-7 – Trash bin – no market viii. Shredded Paper 1. Professional shredding companies – fee  2. Privately shredded cannot be placed in recycling – falls through rollers and machinery belts. 3. Place in bags and put in trash, but do not place in bags for recycling. ix. Aluminum foil, trays, pie tins 1. Despite aluminum being recyclable, used foil/tins have baked on food and oil residue, even after washing, that contaminates other items. x. Other: Tissue paper, paper plates and cups, carbon paper, diapers, Styrofoam, wet material, paper, milk/juice BOXES, kids toys, baby pools xi. Scrap Metal – take to Western Metal, they pay for scrap metal. 1. Auto Parts, Pots and pans, ironing boards 2. Sheet metal, metal pipes, metal poles 3. Sustainability - Hanna Sozl a. Slides published online: Sustainability, Preserving Provo, Thousand Trees, Water Programs: b. Water programs - rebate, smart discount on Smart sprinklers, park strips. c. Sign up for monthly newsletter d. Thousand Trees i. Plant 1000 trees, at almost 400 trees planted. ii. Coordinating with neighborhoods. City provides trees, volunteers provide labor to plant. iii. Council provide matching grant funds. iv. Question: What kind of trees are you planting? 1. Matched by city forrester for specific soil/water needs of the location. Need to know location in advance. v. Planting larger trees, 3-5” diameter trunk, hole planting big. Generally takes 3-5 people 2-3 hours. Planting appropriate trees for the location. Not planting during later summer, early fall because it’s too hot, not planting then. No fruiting trees. vi. If interested, can be a couple different locations, neighbors pick, city will drop off trees with a meetup time. vii. What type of locations, parks? Couple of parks done coordinated with Parks department. Most would be smaller ___.  viii. Do you take donations? Financial, not tree donations. Very successful with Sequoas Gigantis. ix. Can we add trees we’ve planted to the city count? It’s a city initiative. I have three trees that need to be replaced this year. Can talk to city. x. Grants from Ivory Homes Foundation and Nature Conservancy. xi. We will drop off trees, council provides matching funds with labor. xii. Feedback: Cottonwood will drive people nuts, Quaking Aspen will destroy an entire neighborhood. Maple trees will die within 2 years. xiii. City board, energy department, can talk to Chaz. xiv. Minimum size? if want 10 trees, root no minimum? Need enough people to plant the trees. 2-5 people, 2-3 hours. Long time, trees we get will survive. xv. What trees to plant, 2016 Westridge Rotary Park 5-6 evergreen trees fell over, neighborhood large trees fell over. Park renovation replaced with more evergreens. It matters how large the diameter hole it is. Yes putting soil back in but the loosened soil makes a difference. xvi. Who will water the trees? Property owners. xvii. Does it not go against xeroscaping? Trees in park still provide huge benefits. Still need water for trees even if xeroscaping. xviii. Trees reduce water loss in the environment around them with the shade they provide. Less hot. How to use water wisely, not wasting, urban trees are important. xix. Landscaping class will answer a lot of questions. xx. 801-852-6423 Hannah Stolz xxi. Are you available to come to District to present on 1000 trees during fall. xxii. Green exchange rebate program for air quality, water programs. xxiii. Classes on tree management? No. Fruit trees - covered in landscaping class, QA session with forrester, Parks, US Extension office to answer questions. xxiv. Soil health is foundational, keep an eye on the water foundation for updates. 4. PLANNING ITEMS a. Ryan McCoard – Zone Map Amendment request to change A1.10 (Agricultural) Zone to the AI (Airport Industrial) Zone to build warehouses at 3155 W. Center Street. This is the triangle between Center street, Lakeview Parkway and Lakeview Drive. i. Who we are: back in 1989, grandma Deanna McCoard and my dad started Sunshine Greenhouses on 3110 W & Center Street down by Provo airport, couple greenhouses. ii. Now do Smith’s Marketplaces, supply the flowers for Fred Meyers and IFAs here. iii. Purchase farmland around us. Over time as Provo city put large road through, paratitioned a piece of our property off. Will not be able to build greenhouses on it. iv. Looking to build warehouses. Mentality to do things ourselves. We are part of this neighborhood, my dad goes to bed 20 yards where these warehouses are going in. Not an outside developer.  v. We are talking with city planners, city architects, learning process. We are part of this neighborhood. vi. It’s where the landscaping materials are presently. Looking to rent out the warehouses, 5000 sf, plumbers, small businesses. vii. Will be like in North Lindon by Cooks with large chip-ups or smaller? Smaller, warehouses down the road, they are a little bigger. We will build cinder block and shorter. viii. Can you put parking on inside, building on outside? ix. We are getting zone map approval to get zoned changed. Will work with city on building plan process, get the concept building permit. This is just a general idea. x. How does zoning it Airport Industrial (AI) differ from Commercial? Zone city has come up with this for activities around the airport. 1. Specific to airport-related uses and scale: Lowered heights from other industrial, design standards, specific look, taylor to airport with this zone. 2. Contiguous with other airport zoning? 3. It’s general plan II, so not currently but in general plan part of that airport-related function. 4. Zoned AI zone already but it’s planned to be… 5. Eventually all AI all throughout? Yes. b. Garrett Seely - Zone Map Amendment request: Performance Development Overlay or PD Zone to be applied to 16.5 acres of land in the R1.8 (One Family Residential Zone to create a 56-unit Twin Home development at 1069 N Geneva Rd, Lakeview North neighborhood. City Contact Aaron Ardmore (801) 852-6404, aardmore@provo.org PLRZ20230104 i. Waite owned property 35 years, selling. ii. Challenge 1: Large power transmission line cuts bottom west half cuts property on an angle. iii. Challenge 2: Large well iv. R18, asking to change to PD overlay. We will take the 16 acres, 56 lots as-is. We will condense those 56 lots to Twin Homes the the usable side. We will not disturb the wetlands, will not build under power lines. v. Connect two roads. Powerlines section, wet area. Will need a 404 permit to connect this road through wetlands for connectivity. vi. 404 permit goes through Army Corps of Engineers for displacement of the width of the road to connect there. Either have to pay to displace wetlands or create the same amount of wetlands on the site. However, there has been a recent finding with the Supreme Court in June talking about isolated wetlands. Talking with our wetland consultant: Caitl… Environmental, they believe this is an isolated wetland. It’s piped, goes to another piped, not navigatable. If it’s isolate, just need to connect the road. Official language ruling Sept 2023. vii. How will you prevent further development in the wetlands later on. 1. Our intent when we do the … this whole area will be the PD overlay, nothing else will be built because we’ve used the full density and put it into one area. So further development is prohibited by the city. 2. We want to leave the wetland the way it is. We don’t want to disturb it because once you disturb or take away the water that’s there and try to re-use that resource, soil issues have to be dealt with, a lot of peat moss, will not just affect this area but would collect all the neighbors around it. 3. This is how it lays out: 4. 5. Picnic area and walking trails under the powerlines. 6. Middle open space is for amenities for residents there. 7. Will there be a walking trail around the wetlands? No just on sidewalks. Once start disturbing that area, more problematic. 8. How will this be managed? Will it be a mosquito trap/breeding ground? 9. Managed by an HOA. Going to the PD, the residents will then be paying for weed abatement, mosquito abatement, mowing, clean in general. 10. Will passage be restricted? Roads all public. 11. If you do not have to use that piece to mitigate wetlands, how will it be used? What you see is what we will do. 12. Will you do anything to mitigate it being bought by investors? HOAs can prohibit corporate purchases. Has to be owner-occupied for at least a year. Can you include that in your CCR? Not purchased by corporations to rent but ownership. 13. Regular 2-story building. 14. Increased area traffic, speeding. Speed bumps? Deal with planning and public works. Highly doubt it because there is no straight shot.  15. Subdivision like this, likelihood of speeding will not be an issue because of how tight this site is. It is not long and narrow. 16. Good street design because of turning movements and lots of intersections. 17. Powerlines go across, large power pole, slow people down and push them around. 18. Parking for visitors? Standard right of way built to city standards. 20-ft driveway, 2-car garage, on-street parking. Some areas can fill in additional parking but dont think its an issue. will work with planning. 19. Units 1495 to 1700 sf. good size units. 3-4 bedroom units. 2.5 baths. Garage in front. 20. Can you talk to Aaron about the CCR? c. Judy and Barry Finch request a Zone Map Amendment from the RA (Residential Agricultural) Zone to the A1.1 (Agricultural) Zone for 4.82 acres of property at 358 South 2470 West. Provo Bay Neighborhood. Aaron Ardmore (801) 852-6404 aardmore@provo.org PLRZ20230182 i. Why we are asking for this zone change: Zone amendment first. ii. Home on 5 acre lot, when built home required to have a ½ acre zoning, ended up subdividing. Request to make this RA to an A1 zone to match the other property. iii. This is a working farm. No questions on the actual zone change. Planners excused. iv. We were here in April requesting zone amendment for a barn project. 1. West Side Neighborhood Plan, the last space to have agriculture open space in Provo. 2. Westside Plan Policy 1: Preserve agriculture by identifying obstacles to support agriculture, whether it’s traditional or non-traditional farming. Encourage agritourism to provide agriculturally themed open space…respecting Provo’s agricultural heritage. 3. Map of Provo City’s General Plan: Light green is agriculture. Other light green with lines through it is wetlands cannot do anything. The ONLY space that is light green in Provo and NOT in the wetlands is our property and the adjacent Hinckley farm. There are other agricultural spots but Provo City’s General Plan does not seem to have any plan to save agriculture. The bottom of map with green is the other side of the airport in the middle of the lake. But the westside Plan has a big agriculture preservation focus the policies. 4. This project is in complete harmony with the city’s long-term general plan for Provo’s west side. 5. City staff and planners have not been enthusiastic about this project. Every item in the city plan supports agriculture. 6. 7. Zone Change Request: Change 4.82 acres with one house from RA to A1 to have animal rights. This home zone change is the first step to building an event barn with petting zoo. 8. Future request for zone change on our adjacent property to section off the house on that side to sell to our son. It would be an RA ½ acre log. This will help to fund the event barn building on the A1 property. 9. 10. 11. Want to separate this home to be an RA ½ acre lot to match this acre 12. These two zone changes will help us build a beautiful project that will preserve our farm, to build the Finch Family Farm Event Barn and petting zoo barn. 13. Mission: Provide a venue where families can gather to celebrate special events in a farm ranch atmosphere with hands-on animal experiences. 14. This agritourism/agritainment will provide additional revenue to save our family farm while having a positive impact on the community. This project will improve the current site. 15. Landscape back, remove silos for parking in back. 16. 17.  18. 19. v. Requesting zone change to allow a commercial event barn with agricultural use. vi. Proposing conditional uses to protect community and address city’s concerns. 1. All parking will be on the property. 2. Sound and vibration will be contained inside the barn. 3. Security and staff provided as-needed. 4. Barn will be agricultural in design, Post and Beam construction 5. Gazebo and grassy area in the back. 6. Animals in the landscape with petting zoo and other farm-life experience. Farm experience will be part of the activities with the event barn. 7. Project will sit on 1 of our 9 acres. Remaining 9 acres will continue in agricultural use. 8. Lighting will be similar to church and school next door. 9. Single-point access/entrance to property with a gate. 10. Increased traffic will be minimal, similar to a Sunday morning. 11. This will preserve a 70-year old small family farm, a pocket of agriculture in a residential area aligned with Provo’s Westside General Plans to support and preserve agriculture. 12. Connects people to a working farm 13. Improves/beautifies a current agriculture site  14. Provides an agriculture event cent that does not currently exist in Provo but in surrounding cities. 15. Offers a large group special events venue. 16. We live on the property. The first of our research was to find out what knid of building could I build to not negatively impact my neighbor? How do we contain sound? Post and beam is the most expensive building option. It will have the best insulation. We’ll have double doors like at church where you go out one, then there’s another set of doors to provide a sound buffer. 17. 50-60 cars in evening on Fridays/Saturdays. Parking contained on property. 18. Make any future projects like this subject to same rules, alcohol, live music, past 10 pm will have security. 19. Design will be agricultural. No outside metal building materials will be used except for roof. a. Structure including parking will not occupy more than 1/3 of the total property. Managed single-point of access by invitation only. No additional patrons will be permitted when parking lot is full. b. Off-street parking would be provided for each four (4) occupants based on maximum occupancy. c. Provo City sound ordinance would be adhered to. The building would have double-doors with a foyer to mitigate noise. d. Security (1 per every 100 people) will be provided at live music events, when alcohol is served and event time exceeds 10 pm. e. Lighting shall not shine beyond property and will comply with Provo city code. f. All activities will end by midnight. vii. Feedback: 1. Beautiful plan, right thing to have, beautiful concept on the west side, make us all proud to support. 2. Manner in which you’ve applied for conditional use that would allow other A1 properties not to be as respectful as you. Once you allow this commercial use, opens up for all A1 properties to have this type of edifice. viii. Response: 1. Any project in the future would be subject to the same mitigation and conditional uses. That is why they are there, to protect. 2. If all A1 in Provo wanted to build a beautiful barn with all those conditional uses, why not allow it? 3. Others would still be beholden to these conditional uses. 4. Feedback: Once you make conditional use for a rentable venue, where does the stipulation…exist. Conditional use does not have stipulations.  5. Planning commission debating. They prefer a …? stepdown to …agricultural ix. There are only two farms in all of Provo where the operator/owner of the farm makes their entire living off farming: Me and the guy next to me. Our farm, that I’ve been running my entire, life is going into a 100 acres of b… We got impacted with the new project the city is doing and I’m fine with that. But it puts me in a position where I either sell to a developer or I find new agritourism ideas which the long term plan supports and says we should develop. That’s what we are trying to do. Told my whole life I should do it, seriously considering it the past 5 years. x. Response: It’s a wonderful project. Want to start selling slots, will start booking out before you finish the build. Great addition. xi. Aug. 01 is the meeting. xii. City is not against changing to A1. Makes building the barn easier. Makes the amendment only affect the A1 zone as opposed to RA and A1. They are against he amendment to build the barn. xiii. Matt Peterson – Would like to see the specific wording that would be statute regulate noise others would be bound to. I’m worried about others and not the current good intentions and verbal commitment to build a quality building. xiv. Mitigation Sentence - building has to have an agricultural style but prohibits a tin building. Everyone has to follow the sound ordinances. 5. Shoreline Middle School Safe Routes Status a. Vern Keesler, Provo City Engineering i. Met with Dixon MS to give them maps showing where sidewalks do and do not exist at the new school. Propose asphalt walking paths. ii. Comments required June 1, 2024. June we will get more information after June 01, 2024. iii. Derek Anderson, Provo City School District – Just starting the conversation on this. iv.  v. vi. Green - proposed asphalt paths vii. Red - no sidewalks viii. Orange - existing sidewalks b. Bussing i. Red = Bus Eligible ii. Green = 2-mile Walk Zone iii. Becky Bogdin: Able to find the third bus so everyone north of tracks should be bus-eligible. iv. Wait for an update till after. v. Two buses going west up to Dixon, 3rd bus North and south. couldn’t fund the 3rd bus, found a bus doing an elementary route that could. Fund 3 extra buses needed to run all north of the tracks. Found 3rd bus three weeks ago. vi. Will not have real information until next year. vii. School opens fall 2024. viii. c. Brook - Matching Grant - Met with James Cornby with Parks i. Lakewood Park - place to put cement slab and picnic table. ii. Add benches in shade, all are in sun. They will get back. Had to turn on sprinklers. iii. Looking to put cement slab on north side where 3 shade trees, picnic table. other side has one tree mostly dead. iv. Major concern, reason playground equipment was removed from the north end of park is it’s too close to traffic on 500 W.  v. One tree on south side, may take it down. Would be putting another bench in the sun. vi. We get credit for 1000 tree project. Doesn’t solve shade now. vii. Utah power and light property – anything that goes onto that property needs to be approved. Chaz would know. . viii. Look at volunteer credit hours for tree planting in coordination with Utah Power and Light. 6. Soccer Complex Updates? Can find out and post on District 3 FB page. 7. Adjourned.