Neighborhood Districts

Neighborhood District 2 Meeting Agenda (Oak Hills, Wasatch, Foothills, Provost, Provost South, Spring Creek Neighborhoods) Thursday, August 24, 2023; 6:30-8:00 PM City Hall Community Room 445 West Center Street, Provo Resident Attendance: Dan Wotherspoon, Lorri Wotherspoon, Annette Newren, Mary Miller, Dave Knecht, Vickie Knecht, Barry Brewer, Christine Brewer, Ryan Nelson, Lorraine, Birk Larsen, Mark Werner, Jay C Young, Diane Christensen, Cristie Charles, 801-377-6197, Blair Hershey, Marmet, Margaret, Timothy Schmall, Tim Young, Michael Barber, Harold Stokes, M0rgan Davis, Brad Larsen, Bob Bekk, Kimberly Morris, Sherri Petersen, Mark Petersen, Derry Brinley, Julie Brinley, Angie Carter, Jennifer Partridge, John Bunderson, Katrice Mackay, George Handley. Executive Board Attendance: Ann Woodbury, Ashley Rayback, Hannah Petersen, Kristina Davis, Mike Ashley Rayback is conducting the meeting. 1. Q & A with the Provo City Council - George Handley and Katrice MacKay were the two Council members who attended. New District 2 boundaries were discussed. As of January 1, 2024 District 2 will be from Rock Canyon along the East bench to the South end of Provo. Shannon Elsworths term will end at the end of this year. Question from Angie Carter: Concerned that parks are being developed in other areas of Provo and not in the Slate Canyon Area. George Handley’s Response: The city purchased 29 acres near Slate Canyon recently so that it would not be developed. Slate Canyon has been degraded and ignored for many years. Financing for Slate Canyon was incremental so only a few things have been put in (parking, golf, bike course). The city did not have 1.2 million to develop the Slate Canyon park at that time. The parks department is currently drawing new plans for the park development in the Slate Canyon area as well as finding funding so that the area is not delayed. Rock Canyon took 8 years to break ground so this area will take time as well. Scott Henderson in Parks may have better information about funding timelines. There are several catch basins that would have to be moved across the street as they consider where to put the kid parks. Bayview Community Member Question: This area was built as a 55+ community but now students and young singles have bought several of the homes and have brought in more cars than what was intended and now cars are parked all over the street. 4 to 5 lots are still available. When the residents bought into the area they were promised 100% 55+. Dave Knect- A PD development negotiates conditions to get higher density than what they would normally be allowed. The PD ordinance claims that the developer would build it as it was approved and then back out at the end. The city attorney should be involved. Who is responsible to address this? The ADU question needs to be addressed. Can an HOA allow or remove ADU’s? The State also said that lots less than 6000 sqft can be refused an AUD. Any density change should go before the council and Dave and residents are asking for due process. The state ADU law says that an HOA cannot allow an ADU if the city does not allow it. A city law needs to be passed to not allow ADUs on small lots. During the original meeting the question came up how it was going to be enforced and the developer promised in a recorded meeting that it would stay 55+. George Handley- The city staff could issue another traffic study but he does not know what staff would say. A traffic study is a safe thing to do. They want to collect data from staff after 6 months to make good decisions. Will contact staff to know why the zoning changed without going to the council. Katrice Mackay- Is the development guaranteed to stay 55+ guaranteed in the HOA bylaws? Residents can apply for parking regulation in the Bayview area to limit parking on the street. Ashley Rayback- What are you going to do now that people are already living in homes? How do you backtrack when homes are already filled? Hannah Petersen- Can we have a district audit ? This problem exists in many areas of Southeast Provo, not just Bayview. Homes and condos that were built with 2 parking spaces can only have 2 cars. You currently enforce this with landlords and owner occupied landlords throughout the city. How can the city turn a blind eye to Southeast Provo. Bay View Resident- About the traffic study in Bay View. If there is a parking issue in a 55+ area how can emergency vehicles get in? This will be dangerous for an aging community. How long will it take to get a parking study? The residents cannot take over the HOA until the developer turns it over to them. Developer Comments: This development was intended to be 55+ only. One person slipped through the cracks and they are 52. They have talked to their attorneys and they are sending out letters and they are trying to address the apartment issues. The houses were sold to 55+ residents who live out of state and are now renting to students. It is still their intention to sell to only 55+. They do have the right to tell them no. When they purchased the home the owners were told they could not have a basement kitchen and put renters in it. 2. Public Comment (7:00-7:15 PM) 3. Additional Topics (7:15-8:00 PM) A. Transportation discussion on Wasatch Elementary School (Provo School District). Meg from the School Board- The community and PTA will be involved to discuss landscaping by the large walls on the South. There are concerns about speeding on 820 North from the community. They are considering raised crosswalks with blinking lights. Mike from Oak Hills- Can you give more information on school entrances so he can know where crosswalks should be located? Where will kids from Oakhills enter from the East? Most of the kids will descend down Oak Cliff and hit Oakmont. This may be a good place for a raised crosswalk. Meg- They will enter from the Southeast side of the school. The conjunction of Oak Cliff and Oakhills was not originally considered for a crosswalk. There is not a sidewalk on 1450. George Handley believes the City does recommend a crosswalk at this junction. There will not be access or a gate from on the South end. Old willow lane is a dirt path and has too much of a grade to be considered for student access. Ruth Eldridge says that the neighborhood is looking at who owns this lane and looking at a 2024 grant to improve this lane for the students. Jennifer Partridge- How the community school council works: Parents who are on the council decide the safe routes and vote on the routes. They then submit the routes to the principal and the school district. If you are not on the school community council you can still communicate with the school and with Meg. Meg’s current recommendations are based on the community council’s recommendations, but there is still time to give input. B. Update on Slate Canyon Park, Rock Canyon Trailhead, Foothills Park (John Bunderson). John Bunderson from the Parks Department-. There are projects happening based off of the General Plan made in 2019. Rock Canyon Trailhead- Has a history starting from 700,000,000 million years ago. May wonderful projects have taken place to open the mountains East of Provo city. City has now secured 3 million dollars from Utah county and private organizations. Construction will start this fall and will continue through 2024. It may go into 2025. They do not want to limit public access. Trail enhancement will most likely take place in 2025. A roundabout will be put in by Public Works. The parking lots will be extended. A rock climbing wall will be put in. Plant and animal information will be installed. The restrooms will be improved to have year round access. They will set aside a million dollars a year for Slate Canyon developments. Rock Canyon funding was successful because they had a private alliance to donate money. There are no projects planned for Foothills park at this time other than maintenance. George Handley would like to consider forming a Slate Canyon community alliance to raise money and form a partnership. We need public awareness on how valuable Slate Canyon is and that it is as important as Rock Canyon. C. Discussion about parking on Slate Canyon Drive. Please send concerns about parking on Slate Canyon Drive to Rachel so she can put the correct people onthe agenda. D. Vigilante painting/restriction of areas and what to do about it (Ryan Nelson). Ryan Nelson- Some people want a more liberal parking plan, because its a public road and anyone should be able to use it. Some are adamant that only homeowners can use the street. Some want permitted space. Signs that say parking for residents only have been put out….are they legal? Others are painting red on a street. Can residents do this? A study needs to be done about parking from the city. Need to discuss this with BYU. 4. Adjournment (8:00 PM) Next Neighborhood District 2 Meeting: Thursday, October 5, 2023, 6:30 PM, City Hall Community Room.