Neighborhood Districts
Regular MeetingProvo, UT · July 31, 2024
Minutes
Neighborhood District 2 Meeting Minutes
Oak Hills, Wasatch, Foothills, Provost, Provost South, and Spring Creek Neighborhoods
Wednesday, July 31, 2024; 6:00-7:45 PM; Provo City Hall Community Room (445 W Center St)
Board Members in Attendance: Ashley Rayback (Conducting), Ann Woodbury, Hannah Petersen, Mary Millar,
Kristina Davis (zoom), Ryan Nelson (zoom).
Attendance: 21 people in person, 13 people over Zoom = 34 people total.
Click here to view the slides presented at the July 31st Neighborhood District 3 meeting.
Click here to view the video of the July 31st Neighborhood District 3 meeting.
1. Department Topics
A. Truth in Taxation – Provo City Library Director Carla Gordon
This past year we had to dip into our reserves, it has been 22 years since asking for an increase and the
time has come to do that. The two revenue sources where we get the most money from (vehicles taxes
and property taxes) have decreased. The projected amount has been $200-300K less than estimates,
and it has been coming in short. The revenues have continued to go down and the deficit has gone up.
Things we can control:
● Even if we doubled our library fees, it wouldn’t make a big difference.
● Room rentals will be higher next year but not enough to cover.
● Interest incomes are great and that is where we are getting some money from.
Expenses:
● Personnel. Most of our budget goes to staff, even though most of our staff are part-time and
they don’t have benefits.
● Parking garage–there is some leaking, $200K for repairs.
● New Chiller, ½ mill
20 Years ago, they increased the tax revenue to the maximum amount, and it turned out we didn’t
need all the money. We put the excess into a savings account. About ten years in they had a balanced
budget and then they had used their savings. Now is the time we need to have the increase to cover
the deficit. Library expenses haven’t gone up, the personnel costs have increased.
Question: He was at the City Council meeting where this was voted on, he is curious about the library
making modest requests over a few years before this inflated. Will we have to have this same process
for every little bump in funding?
Answer: Yes, we get almost all income from property tax, so the only way to increase that is
through Truth in Taxation. The slice of that doesn’t go up with the property values, it only goes up with
new builds and so for any increase they must go through Truth in Taxation. It has been compared to
the Water Conservatory, they do a little one and they get used to it, but they would prefer not to. They
will probably have to do it every few years. It is nice to have the dedicated money so that it is just for
the library, and they don’t have to fight the police.
Question: When is the Council approving this and how do we share the opinions?
Answer: August 13th at 6 PM, email the council or come to the hearing.
Question: Property taxes have gone down, does that affect how much goes to the library?
Answer: The way the system is set up is that they can receive no more revenue than the prior
year. New revenue comes through new builds. This includes vacant property that is now built on, so as
values go up, rates go down. Overall, in the city we saw an increase in valuation, so the rate went
down, but the individual property went down. Others will see an increase and that is where it is
confusing. Questions specific to valuation are up to the County Assessor.
B. Wildland Urban Interface – Deputy Fire Marshal Jeanie Atherton
Click here to view the WUI slides & video presentation.
They are trying to create a safer fire space between wild spaces with vegetation and urban areas in
Provo.
They will do a free estimate and then when you remove materials from your yard, they will take them
away from your house and chip them and take them to the dump. They want areas clean and free of
flammable items.
They would like all the residents throughout Provo city to do this kind of work. Embers can land from
up to five miles away even if they’re not in the wildland/urban interface.
The Million Dollar Stop: They had string trimmed the Bonneville Shoreline Trail and so when the house
was on fire, the short grass stopped the fire from spreading too quickly. It is called The Million Dollar
Stop because once they call in outside resources it costs a million dollars.
The program goes into August 15th, but it will begin again next season.
Question: What about Provo companies that live in the Provo City boundary and aren’t taking care of
their boundaries? She called to have something done and nothing happened. It is a fire waiting to
happen.
Answer: They’ve had discussions with the fire marshal about that and people live out of state
and they’re trying to come up with a way to deal with that. The Fire Department can’t initialize it, it
must come from another resident. They need to find an answer to the issue.
Question: It is McWane Ductile, property between 2000 S and State Street
Answer: She will talk to her boss and see what they can do.
Question: Our home insurance was canceled because we live in an area where fire is a danger.
Answer: This is something that they’re going to have to deal with, the state legislature is getting
involved with and they’re trying to get involved.
2. Planning Item
Click here to view the full LANA townhomes slide deck.
Click here to read the LANA townhomes Trip Generation Study.
Chase Freebairn, Home by C.W. Urban, requests a Zone Map Amendment from the M1 (Light
Manufacturing) Zone to the MDR (Medium Density Residential) Zone to construct and sell 31
townhome units at 1122 South 900 East in the Spring Creek Neighborhood. (This is currently where
trucks are parked for use and repair)
City Planner: Dustin Wright (801) 852-6414 dwright@provo.org
Application: PLRZ20240193
The city and residents cannot ask for a development agreement, but they can ask how they will
guarantee addressing their concerns.
The applicant is in the review process at the current time. What is shown tonight might be different
than what is presented because the city has asked him to make changes. After they have done that, it
will go to the planning commission and the city council.
This is intended to be a for sale site. They want this to be a nice, modern, attractive site that is for sale
with some amenities.
They engaged a traffic engineer, Hales Engineering, to look at parking, proposed use, and impact of the
neighborhood.
There will be CC&R’s and HOA.
How will we as developers ensure that the use is as intended: They will try to sell to homeowners, they
can’t control people buying and renting out. There are some mechanisms like a deed restriction.
Question: Can the houses be a different color instead of all cookie-cutter and the same colors?
Something that fits in with the mountains. Maybe neutral colors. Affordability–what are you assuming
that these houses will sell for?
Answer: This is not definitive at this point. They have an idea for a certain price, they have to
have a product where they can make money, but they have to make sure they don’t get stuck with
land and units they don’t sell and it also has to be attainable for the public at large. Mid to high $400’s.
There is some variability. As you can see there are other renderings with more colors in the slideshow.
Question: What is the square footage of the units? How many feet before the railroad?
Answer: Medium Units (there are 10), Large units (21), The medium unit is 1620* finished
square feet. They are all three bedrooms and two car garages. The large units are 1822* finished
square feet.
*The developer later corrected those numbers: medium units are 1,543 finished square feet and large
units are 1,746 finished square feet.
Question: The anticipated parking is either 70 or 110 parking stalls.
Answer: Part of the report is they didn’t know how Provo City would define family occupancy
and what they would require for that. They don’t know yet.
Question: How close are these to the railroad?
Answer: There is a landscape buffer up against the railroad, the closest point the road gets to it
is about five feet landscape buffer, 26-foot-wide road, and then the island where the units are. The
units look about 35-40 feet from the property line of the railroads to the first unit.
Question: Consider more buffer space. She lives on Mountain Vista Lane, and they have the railroad
but much further away, larger lots plus a business. When you’re that close to the railroad it might be a
caveat for a homeowner.
Question: Do the parking stalls include the garage space?
Answer: Yes, the parking plan as shown includes the garage. The driveways aren’t big enough
for vehicles, but it assumes the unit plus 12 additional stalls in general.
Question: She’s glad to see they have their own garage. I don’t think only 12 extra stalls will be enough.
There are other developments in the area that have limited parking, and it is a major problem. The
garage at the back–a lot of the people come in and they don’t see the beauty of the architecture, they
just see the garage.
Answer: There are things to do to lighten it up. From a pedestrian standpoint you can see the
fronts, but when you come home and park in your garage it doesn’t look good.
Question: This is a great entry level development. We need a first-time home buyer option. It is
annoying by the railroad. You’ve got cheaper land so there are obviously things people don’t like. What
will make or break this is the homeowner occupancy. Parking will become a huge issue when they
become rentals. An HOA and a homeowner occupancy for the first year would be amazing, and then
when it sells it must be homeowner occupied for a year as well in perpetuity.
Question: We once evaluated all the condo and townhome areas in SE Provo, it is more common in SE
Provo to have rentals. Slate Canyon had 64% were investors. Across the street was 80% rentals. When
the master plan was created, they knew it was a huge place for investors, and it is hard to make things
stay when the HOA boards were all made up of investors. The way to control it was to red stripe
around the parking lots and limit the parking so that it is hard to have investors and renters there.
Question: Are the trucks Rubicon?
Answer: Yes.
Question: Where will all the trucks go?
Answer: The current property owner owns the trucks so they will have to decide what they’ll do
with them.
Question: Because it's so close to the railroad, it seems like it’s going to be with families with young
children. Is there any fencing as a more permanent barrier so that kids aren’t running onto the
railroad?
Answer: There will be a community fence around the property. He’s not sure because it’s still in
the process of landscape design. Right now, there is a dirty old chain link face.
Question: I live in the development that is north and they regularly have people breaking down the
fences.
Question: There are loud train horns, and it has changed so that there are more trains going in the
night now.
Question: Do a little bit of study, get a sound engineer involved, find what will bank the noise and send
it back. Something sturdier or bricks? There is a code in the books that requires a six-foot development
wall.
Developer contact information:
Chase Freebairn, Director of Land 801-386-6708 chase@builtbycw.com
HOME by C.W. Urban, builtbycw.com, 610 North 800 West Centerville UT 84015.
3. Additional Topics
A. Public School District Update – Board Member Jennifer Partridge
Jennifer represents District 2 as does Meg VanWagenen.
They reduced the size of the district personnel and sent them out to the schools. Now each
elementary school will have an assistant principal to help with things like behavioral issues,
which have increased over the years.
Increase in teacher pay: They are closing the gap for the teachers in the middle years of
teaching (i.e. years 8-12 of teaching).
Wasatch construction: The hiccup is there are some electrical supplies that have been on
backorder. They’re hoping to get that equipment and be out of the old school over Christmas
break. They must be out of the old building at the end of January.
Cell phone policy: They’re working on a policy for high school students, and they’re leaning
toward making a policy where students can’t have phones out at any time during class but can
have them out during passing periods.
B. Safe Routes to School Report from Public Works
Provo City Engineering has been coordinating with the Wasatch Elementary School Community
Council.
Provo City has awarded the construction contract for the new crosswalk and barrier at the
intersection of Oak Cliff Drive and Oakmont Lane. Construction to start in August.
Provo City has awarded the construction contract for the new sidewalk along 1450 East to Oak
Cliff Drive to Oakmont Lane. Construction to start in August.
Provo City has awarded the construction contract for sidewalk on Locust Lane between
Wasatch Elementary School and approximately 1099 North Locust Lane. Construction to start in
August.
Provo City has identified the two crosswalk locations on 1450 East for school crossings.*
*Correction: crosswalk locations on 1450 East have yet to be determined.
Provo City has identified the Reduced Speed School Zone on 820 North at Locust Lane and two
school crosswalks.
Provo City has identified the intersection improvements to Locust Lane and Apple Avenue to
provide for two school crosswalks.
Provo City has approved the Keystone Subdivision to construct sidewalk on the south side of
820 North from where it currently ends at 1322 East 820 North for the length of their lots
fronting 820 North.
C. Water at Rock Canyon Park Report from Public Works
Where is the water that used to run down Rock Canyon Park?
Rock Canyon Creek is an ephemeral waterbody, which means water does not flow in the creek
year-round. The amount of water in the creek is directly related to the amount of snowpack
and associated runoff. The last two winters’ snowpack have been above average and average,
so water was able to flow all the way to Rock Canyon Park both years. During drought years
with low snowpack, water will not make it all the way down to the park.
Is it going into the aquifer?
Yes. During wet years the flows coming down Rock Canyon are greater than what can get in the
ground, so the extra water keeps flowing down into the Rock Canyon Park. Flows will usually
start sometime in spring and can go until later summer. During dry years the ground is “thirsty”
so the ground soaks up the water and it often doesn’t make it to the park.
What is that process?
The new pipeline in the area will allow for water to discharge into the creek when there is no
longer runoff water coming down. The plan is to recharge the aquifer throughout the whole
year to help restore the lowering aquifer levels. Studies show that Rock Canyon is a prime
location for aquifer recharge because it can take a lot of water and it moves quickly into the
aquifer.
How does it affect the natural biology of the area?
The creek provides temporary water for animals (deer, bighorn sheep, birds, etc.) and nearby
plants, but does not do so year-round because of the ephemeral nature of the creek. Animals
and plants in this area are “hardy” and must find ways to find water when the creek dries up.
Question: Where is the pipeline dredging water from the creek?
Answer: Not sure.*
*Answer from Barry Prettyman, Provo City Water Resources Engineer: “The new
pipeline is what we are calling the Rock Canyon pipeline. It runs from a pump station
that is currently being built just east of the MTC and goes up to Rock Canyon. This water
will come from Provo City’s new drinking water plant that is under construction. This
water will be discharged into the Rock Canyon Creek where it will seep into the ground
and help replenish the lowering groundwater levels.”
D. 910 North 900 East Report from Code Enforcement
Abandoned apartment complex at 910 North 900 East (NB Park Plaza Apartments)
Statement from District 2 Code Enforcement Officer Yader Zelaya, 801-852-6410: “We currently
have an open zoning case for all nuisance at the property. Because it is an opened case still,
there isn’t much that can be discussed, especially because the case is working its way through
the legal system. Having said that, I understand the frustration of the citizens, but please assure
them that our Zoning Department, in conjunction with our Legal Department, are working to
get a resolution.”
Statement from Development Services Director Bill Peperone: “City staff have been in contact
with the property owners repeatedly to keep the property and the building secure. Because of
the owners’ consistent failure to do this, the city staff would like to move forward with
demolition of the building, but this requires a court order. The City Attorney’s Office and the
Chief Building Official have been working on a petition to the court. We have received an
estimate from a contractor for the demolition and we are prepared to move forward with that
if the court will approve our petition. We anticipate filing our petition this week. Getting a judge
to agree that we should be able to tear down the building isn't a slam-dunk. We've got records
of police calls to the building and the Chief Building Official has inspected the building. We have
to convince the judge that the building is dangerous to the public.”
Question: Have they been paying property taxes on it? Can the City take over the property if
they haven’t been paying taxes?
Answer: Not sure.*
*Property tax payment information can be found online at www.utahcounty.gov or by
contacting the County. According to Utah Code 59-2-1343, the county can sell a property at
auction if the owner is four years behind on property taxes.
E. Provo River Original Channel Report (this concerns District 3)
This is not a Provo City project. This is a combined County, State, and Federal project.
Crews recently completed additions to the aeration system of the Provo River’s original channel
for improving dissolved oxygen levels in the water. The aeration system now consists of 36
oxygen-releasing diffusers along the riverbed from Lakeview Parkway to Center Street bridge.
The diversion structure has been impacted by high flows and floating debris. Crews will
continue to work to provide a long-term and consistently sustainable solution to this problem,
but they have had several incidents of vandalism (cut locks and damaged gates) that make it
harder for work to go smoothly and to be on schedule.
Updates at www.provoriverdelta.us or contact them at (801) 524-3146, urmcc@usbr.gov
Rising Utah Lake levels have resulted in an increase in mosquito habitat. Utah Lake peaked this
spring at above 4,489 feet, the elevation where it is considered full. Utah County Mosquito
Abatement uses a low-flying drone to treat areas for mosquito larvae adjacent to the delta.
While no mosquito larvae have been found in the delta, recent monitoring has shown mosquito
larvae in the original Provo River channel. Treatment of the original channel started in early
July. Utah County Mosquito Abatement typically sprays Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and
Thursday evenings after sundown. They do not spray on weekends or holidays.
Call for spraying 801-851-7637 or https://health.utahcounty.gov/mosquito-abatement/
4. Public Comment
-Angie Carter. Residents believe that there are no plans to work on Slate Canyon Park until 2029. Is
there anything we can do as residents to speed up the park development? The area does not have
walkable parks. Can development money from the area be earmarked only for our area? Why are we
waiting so long? Can any grants be written?*
-Gary Garrett. I am happy to talk with Doug Robins in the Parks Department to see what is going on.*
-Jennifer Partridge. Do we have any information on the burnt property on the West side of the street
across from the abandoned apartment building?
-Kristina Davis. The good news for Slate Canyon Park is that an architect firm has been hired. The bad
news is that this project has significant water runoff issues and will require a lot of money for
mitigation. The plan needed to be redone. There is an 8’ water line under this park leading to Spanish
Fork. There are plans for pickleball courts, etc. nearby. This park area must be moved up on the Public
Works project list before it can be moved up on the Park Department. One of the best ways to speed
this up is to gather neighborhood support and get business funds. This is how Rock Canyon was able to
get so much accomplished. The parks department has given us a lot of resources for Slate Canyon
Saturdays. Thank you to the Parks Department and the community.*
*Email from Provo Parks & Recreation Director Doug Robins:
“The Park Development Process
Managing the development of new parks with capital improvement funds presents several challenges
that require careful consideration and strategic planning. It can be challenging to balance service needs
with the diverse expectations and needs of the community regarding park amenities and features.
Balancing the maintenance of existing parks, replacing outdated amenities, and constructing new
facilities to meet service expectations is a complex task.
Parks & Recreation collaborates closely with the Mayor and City Council to prepare a Capital
Improvement Plan (CIP) that is updated annually, serving as the guiding document for these
improvements. The goal is to use the limited resources available to distribute outdoor recreation
facilities throughout the City, and sometimes this requires difficult decisions to be made.
Funding Sources:
• Development Impact Fees: This is the main revenue source for new park development. These revenues
fluctuate with the local economy, and recent slowdowns in new development result in slower
timeframes for new park construction.
• Recreation, Arts, and Parks (RAP) Tax: This local tax revenue is used to renovate and replace existing
amenities, such as restrooms, playgrounds, pavilions, the Covey Center for the Arts, and other outdoor
recreation facilities.
• Grants: Development Impact Fees and RAP funds are the source funds that are used to leverage grants
from outside groups and agencies. Each project has a unique funding strategy to extend the amount of
limited local funding to accomplish more projects and accelerate project timelines.
Aligning with the direction from the City Council, we have adopted a “pay as you go” approach rather
than pursuing large public bonding commitments. This conservative and steady funding strategy has
been successful, but the park development process may often seem slow. There are several sites and
neighborhoods in Provo awaiting park development or expansion, including Stutz Park, Sunset View
Park expansion, Bicentennial Park expansion, Canyon Glen Park expansion, off-leash dog parks,
Lakewood Neighborhood Park, and others. Neighbors of Stutz Park have inquired about the timeline
for their neighborhood park development.
Each project has a unique funding strategy that matches local funds with any applicable grant
opportunities. This approach maximizes funding to expand what can be delivered. For example, much
of the funding for the development of the Epic Sports Park came from outside Provo City. The same
applies to Rock Canyon Trailhead, the new Delta Gateway Park, and several other projects.
Specific to Slate Canyon
To clarify expectations, it was never intended to develop all available land at Slate Canyon
simultaneously. The original plan was to construct a trailhead and parking facility at the canyon, which
is now operational. The design committee then expanded the vision to include additional open space
nearby for outdoor recreation opportunities, leading to the conceptualization of additional project
phases.
$1.25 million was recently invested in acquiring an additional 29 acres of critical hillside land at Slate
Canyon, increasing the City-owned land in that area east of Slate Canyon Drive to 145 total acres. This
area has been rezoned as Open Space, Preservation, and Recreation (OSPR). This expanded acreage
will provide opportunities for multi-phased outdoor recreation development in the future. Provo Public
Works has identified future public infrastructure needs and unique utility challenges in the area that
will adjust the layout of future recreation amenities.
With these new realities, Parks & Recreation initiated a new design advisory committee of residents to
revisit the master plan and potential phases. This work is ongoing. Meanwhile, in the current CIP,
funding will accumulate over the next four fiscal years for the next phase. These accumulations of
development impact fees and RAP revenues are projected to provide $4 million toward the next phase
in FY 2029. We will remain attentive to other funding opportunities to make this possible.”
5. Adjournment
Agenda
Neighborhood District 2 Meeting Agenda
For residents of the Oak Hills, Wasatch, Foothills, Provost, Provost
South, and Spring Creek Neighborhoods
Wednesday, July 31, 2024; 6:00-7:45 PM
Provo City Hall Community Room 445 W Center St
Direct Zoom link: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/83743164933?pwd=ZStEZ2VxWjRmdHJITTdkbk94cElFdz09
Through Zoom website: https://zoom.us enter Meeting ID 837 4316 4933 and passcode 186528.
Call in to Zoom: Dial 346-248-7799, enter Meeting ID 837 4316 4933, press #, when asked for participant ID,
press #; press *9 if you would like to speak.
1. Department Topics
A. Truth in Taxation – Provo City Library Director Carla Gordon (6:00-6:15 PM)
B. Wildland Urban Interface – Deputy Fire Marshal Jeanie Atherton (6:15-6:30 PM)
2. Planning Item (6:30-7:00 PM)
Chase Freebairn requests a Zone Map Amendment from the M1 (Light
Manufacturing) Zone to the MDR (Medium Density Residential) Zone to construct and
sell 31 townhome units at 1122 South 900 East in the Spring Creek Neighborhood.
City Planner: Dustin Wright (801) 852-6414 dwright@provo.org
Application: PLRZ20240193
3. Additional Topics
A. Public School District Update – Board Member Jennifer Partridge (7:00-7:15 PM)
B. Safe Routes to School Report from Public Works (7:15-7:20 PM)
C. Water at Rock Canyon Park Report from Public Works (7:20-7:25 PM)
D. 910 North 900 East Report from Code Enforcement (7:25-7:30 PM)
E. Provo River Original Channel Report (7:30-7:35 PM)
4. Public Comment (7:35-7:45 PM)
5. Adjournment (7:45 PM)
Next Neighborhood District 2 Meeting: Wednesday, October 16, 2024, 6:00 PM, City Hall Community Room.
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