(3) Zoning Board of Appeals
Regular MeetingRed Hook, NY · March 9, 2022
Minutes
Town of Red Hook Zoning Board of Appeals
Approved Minutes (amended) March 09, 2022
Preliminaries
Roll Call
The meeting is called to order at 7:02pm. Chairperson Kate Karakassis states she is
present. Board members Chris Carney, and Chris Klose state they are present, and a
quorum for the meeting is established. Also present are ZBA attorney, Victoria Polidoro,
assisting attorney, Patrick Logan, and Town of Red Hook ZEO, Bob Fennell.
February 9, 2022 Meeting Minutes
At 7:03 pm Chairperson Karakassis asks for motion to adopt the February 9, 2022
meeting minutes, and further asks the Board members if there are any comments or
questions, to which Mr. Carney and Mr. Klose reply they have none. Chris Klose moves
to adopt the February 9, 2022 meeting minutes, Chris Carney seconds, and the Board
votes unanimously to adopt the minutes.
Review of Planning Board Minutes and Comments from the Chairperson
There are no comments at this time.
Public Hearing
Public Hearing ZBA 22-02 Adam and Michelle Castiglione, application for two Area
Variances to construct a cottage with a garage below it, ten feet from the side property
line, and having a gross floor area of 984 SF. Section 143-68E of the Town of Red Hook
Zoning Law requires that the structure shall be set back 35 feet from the side property
line, and Section 143-68A of the Town of Red Hook Zoning Law limits the gross floor
area to 650 SF. The subject parcel is located at 7 Whalesback Road, in the Town of
Red Hook, in the RD3 Zoning District.
Chairperson Karakassis reads the remote meeting statement as follows, into the record.
“Pursuant to Executive Order No. 202.1, and advisories issued by Federal, State,
and Local officials, related to the COVID-19 virus, the Zoning Board of Appeals will hold
the meeting remotely. There will be no in person gathering at the Town Hall. The
meeting will be held by video conference and can be viewed at:”
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaDQcpNaCp3cV1Z6loBbPcA?view_as=subscriber
At 7:05 pm Chris Klose moves to open the public hearing. Chairperson Karakassis
seconds and all Board members vote in favor of opening the public hearing.
Chairperson Karakassis asks the applicants to describe their project. Adam Castiglione
states he thought about the Board’s suggestion to morph the current garage into an
apartment, and build a second garage, and further states he thinks the current garage is
too small for his family’s needs, and it also has a staircase to the lower level of their
house.
Chairperson Karakassis asks the Board members if they have any questions or
comments, to which Mr. Carney and Mr. Klose reply they have reviewed the application,
and have none. Chairperson Karakassis states she visited the property today at 5:00
pm, and further states the applicants’ home is built on a rise, and the rest of the property
slopes down to a marshy area. Chairperson Karakassis states she wanted to make a
visual assessment regarding the proximity of the adjacent property.
Chris Klose asks Chairperson Karakassis what her impression of the next-door property
was, to which she replies it was quite close. Michelle Castiglione states the proposed
structure is close to the property line, but not the neighbor’s house. Ms. Castiglione
further states theirs and their neighbor’s driveways are close, since their lot is a flag lot.
Adam Castiglione states the neighbor’s house is not oriented toward the proposed
structure, and further notes no windows in the garage-cottage structure would face the
neighbor’s house.
Clerk Rubin states the ZBA Office received no comments from the public.
At 7:10 pm Chairperson Karakassis moves to close the public hearing. Chris Klose
seconds, and all Board members vote in favor of closing the public hearing.
Chairperson Karakassis states there will be one resolution for both variance requests,
but the Board will review each request separately. Chairperson Karakassis states the
Board will review the side yard setback variance request first.
The Board discusses the facts of the appeal, and determines:
1. The location of the septic tank and marshy areas considerably reduce the
available locations for additional structures. The applicants’ chosen location
avoids these issues.
2. The front of the property faces the front yard, and is open space. Placement of
the structure to the side of the rear driveway, preserves the open space.
3. There is no opposition from neighbors. The subject parcel is at the end of a long
flag lot driveway. Visual impact on the neighborhood will be minimal.
Chairperson Karakassis asks the Board members if they have any further comments or
questions. Chris Carney and Chris Klose state they have no further comments.
The Board reviews the six criteria for the side yard setback area variance request:
The Board agrees unanimously that the setback request
1. will not produce an undesirable change to the neighborhood, or a detriment to
nearby properties,
2. the needs of the applicant cannot be achieved by other than an area variance, since the
applicants are looking to build a garage for equipment and vehicles, and have limited
locations available,
3. the requested variance is substantial, since it represents a 71% reduction of the setback
requirement,
4. will not affect the physical or environmental conditions in the neighborhood,
5. the hardship for which the variance is sought to rectify is self-created, and
6. the variance requested is the minimum variance to meet the needs of the
applicants.
At 7:17 pm Chris Klose moves the grant the requested side yard setback variance.
Chris Carney seconds and all Board members vote in favor of granting the variance.
The Board reviews the six criteria for the 984 SF proposed cottage, to be located above
the proposed 984 SF proposed garage:
1. All Board members agree the requested variance will not produce an undesirable
change to the neighborhood, or a detriment to nearby properties.
2. Chairperson Karakassis finds the needs of the applicant can be achieved by
other than an area variance, and further finds the permitted 650 SF for a cottage
adequate, and finds the applicants have a sufficiently large home. Chris Klose
finds the needs of the applicants can be achieved by other than an area
variance. Chris Carney agrees the needs of the applicants can be achieved by
other than an area variance, but also states the definition of need is what they tell
the Board.
3. The Board agrees a 42% increase over the permitted square footage is
substantial.
4. The Board agrees the requested variance will not affect the physical or
environmental conditions in the neighborhood.
5. The Board agrees the hardship for which the variance is sought to rectify is self-
created.
6. Chairperson Karakassis states the requested variance is not the minimum
variance to meet the needs of the applicant. Chris Klose states he agrees with
the Chairperson’s position. Chris Carney states the requested variance is not the
minimum variance to meet the needs of the applicant.
Chairperson Karakassis states assessing an applicant’s needs is difficult, and further
states the use of a structure to entertain guests sets a precedent to allow applicants to
say whatever their needs are.
Victoria Polidoro states the Board needs to vote on a resolution to deny the requested
variance.
At 7:25 pm the Board votes on a resolution to deny the requested variance. Chairperson
Karakassis votes YES, Chris Klose votes YES, Chris Carney votes NO. Patrick Logan
states the motion fails, since there is not a five-member Board, at the present time, and
further states the Board must vote unanimously for the motion to pass. Patrick Logan
further states the Board can rework a resolution to grant the variance, and vote on it,
within a period of 62 days. Mr. Logan further notes the Board can postpone this vote to
the next meeting to see if there will be a unanimous vote. Mr. Logan further states if 62
days pass, the Board will effectively have issued a denial. Victoria Polidoro states the
Board has closed the public hearing, but it can have a discussion and vote at the next
meeting, if it so chooses. Chairperson Karakassis confirms that the applicants will
attend the next ZBA meeting.
Public Hearing
ZBA 22-04 Gregory and Elizabeth Bathrick, application for two Area Variances, the first
regards the placement of a garage, in front of a proposed dwelling, 35 feet from the
front property line, on the subject parcel. Section 143-18 A (4) of the Town of Red Hook
Zoning Law stipulates that an accessory structure project no closer than the principal
structure, or meet the required front yard setback of 60 feet. The second variance
regards the construction of a number of buildings on the subject parcel, resulting in a
maximum building coverage of 11%, and a minimum open space of 72%. The Town of
Red Hook Zoning Code, Section 143-12, District Schedule of Area and Bulk
Regulations, limits the maximum building coverage to 7%, and requires a minimum of
open space of 80%. The subject parcel is located at 81 Country Club Drive, in the Town
of Red Hook, in the RD3 Zoning District.
Chairperson Karakassis confirms with the applicant, the requested variances for lot
coverage, and front yard setback, and then reads the agenda item. Chris Klose asks the
applicant if what the Board has received is the current set of drawings, to which the
applicant’s architect, Christie Billeci, replies it is. Ms. Billeci states the DEC Wetlands
Permit has been granted for the pool, poolhouse, and patio. Ms. Billeci further states the
garage has been re-located further away from the neighbor, and 35’ from the lot line,
but in the front yard.
Ms. Billeci states the tree will be protected during the building process, and displays a
three-dimensional model, a mock-up, and elevations on the screen, and also display
photographs of neighborhood garages, in front yards, on Country Club Drive, houses
closer to the pond, and garages closer to the street. Ms. Billeci also displays
photographs of neighborhood parcels which have a higher-than-permitted lot coverage,
and states the pond represents a large open space, surrounded by small lots, similar to
planned cluster housing, and notes the neighborhood’s small lots of .3 to .6 acres.
At 7:44 pm Chairperson Karakassis asks for a motion to open the public hearing. Chris
Klose so moves, Chris Carney seconds, and all Board members vote in favor of
opening the public hearing. There are no comments from the public. At 7:45 pm
Chairperson Karakassis asks for a motion to close the public hearing. Chris Klose so
moves, Chairperson Karakassis seconds, and all Board members vote in favor of
closing the public hearing. Chairperson Karakassis asks the Board members if they
have any further comments or questions, to which Chris Klose and Chris Carney reply
they do not. ZEO Bob Fennell confirms the applicants are seeking two variances, and
not three.
Patrick Logan states the Board can draft one document with both variances.
Chairperson Karakassi, Chris Klose, and Chris Carney agree to a single document.
Patrick Logan states both variances must consider all of the criteria. Chairperson
Karakassis asks Mr. Fennell if Country Club Drive is private, to which Mr. Fennell
replies it is.
The Board discusses the facts of the appeal and determines:
1. The properties in the neighborhood are all off of a private road, thus the visual
impact is minimal.
2. In a site visit it was noted there are a number of different architectural styles in
the neighborhood, contributing to an overall, eclectic style. The site visit also
revealed a number of properties with garages right up on the road, thus the
applicants’ proposal is in keeping with the neighborhood.,
3. The neighborhood was created some 50 years prior to zoning.
The Board reviews the six criteria front setback variance request and the maximum lot
coverage variance:
1. For both the front setback variance request, and the maximum lot coverage
request, all Board members agree the requested variance will not produce an
undesirable change to the neighborhood, or a detriment to nearby properties.
2. For both the front setback variance request, and the maximum lot coverage
request, all Board members agree the needs of the applicant cannot be achieved by
other than an area variance, due to the need for a garage, the configuration of the lot,
and the preservation of the tree.
3. For both the front setback variance request, and the maximum lot coverage
request, all Board members agree the requested variances are numerically
substantial, but the impacts are not substantial.
4. For both the front setback variance request, and the maximum lot coverage
request, all Board members agree the requested variances will not affect the
physical or environmental conditions in the neighborhood.
5. For both the front setback variance request, and the maximum lot coverage
request, all Board members agree the hardship for which the variance is sought
to rectify is self-created.
6. For both the front setback variance request, and the maximum lot coverage
request, all Board members agree the variance requested is the minimum
variance to meet the needs of the applicants.
At 7:52 pm the Board votes unanimously to grant the requested variances for front yard
setbacks and maximum lot coverage,
Chairperson Karakassis notes the Board has discussed increasing escrow collected
from each applicant to $750.00 from the $500.00 collected, beginning in May of 2015.
She states the Clerk has brought to her attention the fact that very often applicants must
be asked for additional deposits to cover attorney fees, and the cost of certified mailing
of the public hearing notices to applicants’ neighbors, and publication of the public
hearing notice, in the newspaper. Clerk Rubin notes when escrow was originally
instated, the costs associated with the public hearing were substantially lower.
At 8:05 Chris Klose moves to increase the amount of escrow, collected from applicants,
to $750.00, from $500.00. Chairperson Karakassis seconds, and all Board members
vote in favor of increasing the amount of escrow, collected from applicants, to $750.00
from $500.00.
Patrick Logan notes Section 267A 13 B of New York State Town Law states if there is a
default denial, the Board may entertain a motion to amend a failed resolution, up to 62
days after the original vote.
Adjournment
At 8:09 pm Chris Klose moves to adjourn the meeting. Chris Carney
seconds and all Board members vote in favor of adjourning the meeting.
Agenda
TOWN OF RED HOOK
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
March 9, 2022
AGENDA
Preliminary Business
7:00 Call to Order - Roll Call
Approval of February 9, 2022 Meeting Minutes
Review of Planning Board Minutes
Comments from the Chair
Public Hearing
ZBA 22-02 Adam and Michelle Castiglione, application for two Area Variances to
construct a cottage with a garage below it, ten feet from the side property line, and having
a gross floor area of 984 SF. Section 143-68E of the Town of Red Hook Zoning Law
requires that the structure shall be set back 35 feet from the side property line, and
Section 143-68A of the Town of Red Hook Zoning Law limits the gross floor area to 650
SF. The subject parcel is located at 7 Whalesback Road, in the Town of Red Hook, in the
RD3 Zoning District.
Public Hearing
ZBA 22-04 Gregory and Elizabeth Bathrick, application for two Area Variances, the first
regards the placement of a garage, in front of a proposed dwelling, 35 feet from the
front property line, on the subject parcel. Section 143-18 A (4) of the Town of Red Hook
Zoning Law stipulates that an accessory structure project no closer than the principal
structure, or meet the required front yard setback of 60 feet. The second variance
regards the construction of a number of buildings on the subject parcel, resulting in a
maximum building coverage of 11%, and a minimum open space of 72%. The Town of
Red Hook Zoning Code, Section 143-12, District Schedule of Area and Bulk
Regulations, limits the maximum building coverage to 7%, and requires a minimum of
open space of 80%. The subject parcel is located at 81 Country Club Drive, in the
Town of Red Hook, in the RD3 Zoning District.
Pursuant to New York State legislation (S.50001/A.40001), which allows state and
local government meetings that are normally held in person to be held remotely
instead, as long as the public has the ability to view or listen to the meeting and as long
as the meeting is recorded and later transcribed, and advisories issued by Federal, State,
and Local officials, related to the COVID-19 virus, the Zoning Board of Appeals will hold
the meeting remotely. There will be no in person gathering at the Town Hall. The meeting
will be held by video conference, and can be viewed at the RH ZBA Meeting YouTube
Channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaDQcpNaCp3cV1Z6loBbPcA?view_as=subscriber
Pursuant to the above cited legislation, this meeting will be recorded and transcribed.
Please contact ZBA Clerk, Anne Rubin, at arubin@redhook.org, or (845)758-4624 with
any questions.
The next regularly scheduled ZBA Meeting is Wednesday, April 13, 2022. Please
consult the Town website, or call the Town Clerk to find out if this meeting will be held
remotely, or in person, at Town Hall. Prospective ZBA Applicants must present their
application to ZEO Bob Fennell. The submission deadline for this meeting is Tuesday,
April 5, 2022.
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