Retiree Health Care Investment Board
Regular MeetingRoyal Oak, MI · January 5, 2017
Minutes
CITY OF ROYAL OAK RETIREE HEALTH CARE INVESTMENT BOARD
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES
A meeting of the Retiree Health Care Investment Board of Trustees was conducted in the City Hall
Conference Room 309, Royal Oak MI, Thursday – January 5, 2017 at 1:30 p.m.
The meeting was called to order by Chairperson Don Van Ochten at 1:30 pm
Attendance
PRESENT: Don Van Ochten- Chairperson
Lee Collick- Vice Chairperson
Dave Poulton- Trustee
Pat Paruch- Trustee
Don Johnson- Trustee
ALSO PRESENT: Julie Rudd - Bd Chief Administrative Officer/ Bd Secretary/Bd Treasurer
Tom Michaud - Bd Attorney with VanOverbeke Michaud and Timmony
Leah Motyka- Administrative Assistant- Pension Technician
John Lang - member of system and former board trustee
Public Comment - none
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Board approval of the draft minutes for December 21 , 2016 meeting
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Moved by Dave Poulton to approve the December 21 , 2016 meeting minutes
Supported by Pat Paruch
MOTION ADOPTED 5/0
INVESTMENTS
Selection of investment consulting firm – discussion.
Julie Rudd presented a summary comparison of investment returns of the firms interviewed
(Independent Portfolio Consultants, Dahab Associates, The Bogdahn Group, and Morgan Stanley)
and SEI. The summary sheet reports the total average return vs. indices for year-to-date as of June
30, 2016, 1 year, 3 year, 5 year, and 10 year, utilizing the detailed data provided by the firms (these
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detailed spreadsheets were emailed to trustees prior to the firm interviews on December 21 2016.
The comparison shows that for the 10 year return, the Bogdahn Group outperformed Morgan Stanley
by approximately 41 basis points (relative to the indices) and Bogdahn Group outperformed SEI by
approximately 3 basis points (relative to the indices). A 41 basis point different could amount to over
$450,000 of gains from investments. The proposed fee for Morgan Stanley is $75,000 annually. The
Bogdahn Group proposed fee is $90,000 1yr, $105,000 2yr, $120,000 3yr, $135,000 4yr, and
$150,000 5yr. The Bogdahn Group reports a 99% retention rate since inception 18 years ago. The
Bogdahn Group reports to consult for numerous municipal trusts including OPEB trusts. Brian Green
is also the corporate liaison for MAPERS. There would be a fee discount to use SEI if SEI consulted
for both the retirement system and the retiree healthcare trust. Dahab was ruled out by consensus due
to not willing to perform as a “manager of managers”. Independent Portfolio Consulting was ruled out
as the firm as they did not have a 10 year performance history.
Don Johnson stated that he sees an advantage to having a different firm other than the retirement
board’s firm because it allows for comparison. Don Johnson stated that he has been informed that
when the retirement system used the Brice Group, the Brice Group created inefficiencies for the
finance department.
Dave Poulton stated that Brian Brice/Morgan Stanley is knowledgeable and he is comfortable with the
Brian Brice, and that they are local. Don Van Ochten stated that he likes that the city has had a
relationship with Brian Brice and is comfortable with them.
Lee Collick stated that due to (most importantly) the reported historical performance that he selects
Bogdahn Group.
Moved by Don Johnson to select The Bogdahn Group as the investment consulting firm subject to
legal review of a contract
Supported by Lee Collick
MOTION ADOPTED 3/0 (Don Johnson, Lee Collick, Pat Paruch)
No vote: Don Van Ochten and Dave Poulton
Selection of custodian bank
Moved by Dave Poulton to select 5/3 as a custodian bank subject to legal review of a contract
Supported by Pat Paruch
MOTION ADOPTED 5/0
LEGAL
None
OTHER BUSINESS
None
NEXT MEETING AND ADJOURNMENT
Next regular meeting is scheduled for immediately following the retirement system board meeting at
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approximately 1:30 pm on Thursday – February 2 , 2017 at City Hall room 309.
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Moved by Lee Collick to adjourn the meeting (2:08 pm.) and confirm next meeting for February 2 ,
2017 immediately following retirement system board meeting at approximately 1:30 pm
Supported by Pat Paruch
MOTION ADOPTED UNIANIMOUSLY 5/0
Agenda
AGENDA OF THE CITY OF ROYAL OAK
RETIREE HEALTH CARE INVESTMENT BOARD MEETING
Thursday – January 5, 2017 at 1:30 PM
City Hall Conference Room 309 - Royal Oak MI
1) PUBLIC COMMENT
2) REQUEST THAT THE BOARD APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR December 21, 2016
3) INVESTMENTS
Selection of investment consultant firm
Selection of custodian bank (if necessary)
4) OTHER
5) ADJOURN
Next regular meeting (first Thursday of each month) is scheduled for 1:30 pm
Thursday – February 2, 2017 at City Hall room 309
Request that the Board establish the next meeting for February 2, 2017 at 1:30 pm.
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